Wanderlei Silva's next opponent is Michael Bisping
According to fightersonlymagazine.co.uk
"Verbal agreements for the clash have been given, although Fighters Only understands that bout agreements are not yet drawn up. The fight will not be official until these are signed and returned by both men."
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Sexyama may get Belfort if Anderson’s elbow is still tricky.
Keep firing Assholes!
In Idaho, it's illegal to f--- a porcupine. You know why? Because someone tried it.
Nooo!
I was looking forward to Sexy vs. Ugly.
by HappyLittleTreez on Nov 24, 2009 2:44 PM EST reply actions 1 recs
IF Wanderlei can time Bisping ala Hendo this could be bad for Bisping….. I just think Wanderlei hits too hard, and we know that Wanderlei won’t pull a Kang…… I hope that Wanderlei destroys Bisping, but I really wanted to see Akiyama and Wanderlei fight a war
"Its a cliche that boxing is the sweet science, man we're astro physics..." ~ Mayhem Miller speaking about MMA
All I know is if Bisping gets rocked like he did by Kang, Silva will not let him recover. Rape choke anyone?
by HappyLittleTreez on Nov 24, 2009 2:48 PM EST up reply actions
Silva is kind of predictable: Left hook, right hook, repeat. Also not sure if Wanderlei’s power will come down to 185, and Wanderlei will be cutting serious weight for the first time i his life.
Keep firing Assholes!
In Idaho, it's illegal to f--- a porcupine. You know why? Because someone tried it.
Yeah he definitely wings his punches back and forth. I actually have Bisping taking this fight. Joe Silva knows what he’s doing…they want their British star back on track.
by HappyLittleTreez on Nov 24, 2009 3:01 PM EST up reply actions
I think
they’d also be happy to have the axe murderer make an entrance into a division via brutal rape choke KO
I doubt it
I think they’d rather promote up and coming stars rather than the final spasms of has-beens.
"Why am I here? Why does my mind have wings? Why do blue midgets hit me with fish?!" - The Tick
Unfortunately this fight doesn’t feature and up and coming star.
by ufc4 on Nov 24, 2009 6:01 PM EST up reply actions 1 recs
Michael Bisping is an up and coming star, HATER!!!
"Why am I here? Why does my mind have wings? Why do blue midgets hit me with fish?!" - The Tick
Source?
"Why am I here? Why does my mind have wings? Why do blue midgets hit me with fish?!" - The Tick
Bisping is British;
Hardy is British, with power, and the ability to discuss MMA intelligently
Hardy also has a title shot and has never gotten flobberwhomped by Dan Henderson.
Guillotine.
LOL
Bisping is turning into the red-headed stepchild of British mma.
by HappyLittleTreez on Nov 25, 2009 8:48 AM EST up reply actions
So your source is your opinion.
Got it.
"Why am I here? Why does my mind have wings? Why do blue midgets hit me with fish?!" - The Tick
YUS!
Although I dislike Bisping you gotta give the guy credit for not stepping down the competition. Hendo, Kang, Wanderlei. Those are though fights. Wand by (almost as brutal as hendo) KO!
"Well... You're damned if you do, and You're damned if you don't."- Bart Simpson
by poundnground on Nov 24, 2009 2:49 PM EST via mobile reply actions
And of course by "though" i meant "tough" damn blackberry.
"Well... You're damned if you do, and You're damned if you don't."- Bart Simpson
by poundnground on Nov 24, 2009 2:51 PM EST via mobile up reply actions
The main thing that concerns me here is that Wanderlei seemed to gas in the third round against Franklin, which was only a cut to 195. I wonder if he will be able to hang with Bisping cardio-wise if the fight goes into deep waters. Seems a bit like the Amir Sadollah / Phil Baroni fight (though I know I will get a ton of shit for comparing Wanderlei/ Bisping to those two) If Wanderlei has a good chance of KOing Bisping early, but it will be Wanderlei’s first fight at 185, and I fear that when it stretches past the halfway point, Bisping will have the better cardio and be able to cruise to a decision victory.
Bisping takes this one
by Wandy being another former Pride star, and Bisping having new tools in his shed.
"Why am I here? Why does my mind have wings? Why do blue midgets hit me with fish?!" - The Tick
If Wand touches his chin, he’s going down.. If not, then I agree..
Hard to bet on this fight though.. Even if Bisping has more tools, but I still think he will have a hard time stopping Wand, and i can’t say the same the other way around. I can see him winning a lopsided decision over Wand, but i can also see a replay of the Jardine fight.
by Anton Tabuena on Nov 24, 2009 3:56 PM EST up reply actions
OoOps, I forgot.
Bisping got knocked out once in his career, he now officially has a glass jaw.
Other than that, Wandy hasn’t been impressive at all lately. 1-3 in the UFC, and 2-5 since 2006 (wins over Jardine and Fujita). I’ll believe he’s the Wandy people remember when he shows it. Until then, I have to go with what I’ve seen lately.
"Why am I here? Why does my mind have wings? Why do blue midgets hit me with fish?!" - The Tick
Im not saying he has a glassjaw.. I'm saying Wand has power.
im just looking at the match up just like how i looked at the Hendo, and Kang match up.. He has more tools, but his opponent has more power than him which could end the fight instantly..
by Anton Tabuena on Nov 24, 2009 4:16 PM EST up reply actions
Anyone ever notice
How eerily similar both of them were KO’d by Henderson?
"Shotguns? What, like guns that fire shots?"
@deowade
by Damon O. on Nov 24, 2009 4:55 PM EST up reply actions 2 recs
Can someone remind me
who wandy has KOd (not counting soccer kicks and other PRIDE-rules stuff)
The path to my fixed purpose is laid with iron rails, whereon my soul is grooved to run. Towards thee I roll, thou all-destroying but unconquering BROCKLESNAR; to the last I grapple with thee.
Jardine, rape choke punches.
Rampage twice.. BloodyKnees.com
actually there’s a lotttttttt more.. not all of them end with soccer kicks.. Sakuraba and Minowaman too i think.
by Anton Tabuena on Nov 24, 2009 10:07 PM EST up reply actions
The pre-fight war of words should be limited since nobody will understand a word either guy is saying.
Resident Capologist
by clrkaitken on Nov 24, 2009 3:25 PM EST reply actions 1 recs
Bisping will win ala rampage type ko
Stephen Quadros: Where do you see yourself in three years.
Quinton Jackson: Let's see, I'm 22 right now. In three years I see myself being 25.
For Silva
"Why am I here? Why does my mind have wings? Why do blue midgets hit me with fish?!" - The Tick
I would cry and go murder kittens
We're just a million little gods causin' rain storms, turning every good thing to rust.
by Anthony Pace on Nov 24, 2009 4:46 PM EST up reply actions 1 recs
I like Bisping, but he’ll have a hell of a time trying to handle Wandy’s punching.
by Monday Morning Martial Artist on Nov 24, 2009 4:02 PM EST reply actions
Like Rich Franklin did?
"Why am I here? Why does my mind have wings? Why do blue midgets hit me with fish?!" - The Tick
Franklin's an amazing striker
Bisping gets by on slightly above average striking, somewhat rounded game, and a lot of heart. I personally like him, but to say that just because Rich handled Wandy on the feet, Bisping will too, is absurd
My reply was to this:
I like Bisping, but he’ll have a hell of a time trying to handle Wandy’s punching.
Wandy is overrated. To say the 1-3 Silva is some sort of beast or amazing fighter is absurd. The guy has done nothing to prove he’s even at gatekeeper status, let alone elite level, lately.
"Why am I here? Why does my mind have wings? Why do blue midgets hit me with fish?!" - The Tick
by mythbuster on Nov 24, 2009 5:21 PM EST up reply actions 1 recs
wow. OD on the hate.
Maybe he isn’t the Wand of old, but he still has a good chance of putting Bisping down.
I'm like PacMan fightin you silly kids... throw ya Hatton the ring, and get knocked outlike Ricky did.
lol.
So it’s OD on the hate (btw, oy vey…), but then you go and agree with me. Nice.
He isn’t the Wanderlei of old: Check.
He has a chance to win: Check.
We’re on the same page.
"Why am I here? Why does my mind have wings? Why do blue midgets hit me with fish?!" - The Tick
are you still being a grumpypants? you should switch that name to ballbuster—hiyooooooooooooooo
The path to my fixed purpose is laid with iron rails, whereon my soul is grooved to run. Towards thee I roll, thou all-destroying but unconquering BROCKLESNAR; to the last I grapple with thee.
by judonerd on Nov 24, 2009 8:57 PM EST up reply actions 1 recs
Fine, but you’re saying that Bisping should automatically be able to do something because RICH FRANKLIN was able to do it. That means you’re putting Rich and Michael on the same talent level, which is ridiculous.
by Shaun32887 on Nov 24, 2009 7:38 PM EST up reply actions 1 recs
I think Franklin is more prone to being KO than Bisping, and he managed to handle Wanderlei’s punches just fine.
"Why am I here? Why does my mind have wings? Why do blue midgets hit me with fish?!" - The Tick
I think if bisping goes against Anderson Silva, Lyoto Machida and Vitor Belfort
It’d be the same result.. Dont you think?
by Anton Tabuena on Nov 24, 2009 7:59 PM EST up reply actions
At the same time?
"Why am I here? Why does my mind have wings? Why do blue midgets hit me with fish?!" - The Tick
Hendo didn’t KO Franklin. What happened when Bisping and Hendo met up?
by Neil Manich on Nov 24, 2009 10:43 PM EST up reply actions
You are right, you got me.
Wanderlei will knock out Bisping because Henderson didn’t knock out Franklin. How did I miss that!
"Why am I here? Why does my mind have wings? Why do blue midgets hit me with fish?!" - The Tick
I wasn’t referencing that. I was referencing the ridiculous argument that Franklin is knock out prone.
by Neil Manich on Nov 25, 2009 12:00 AM EST up reply actions
I didn't say Franklin is knock out prone...
"Why am I here? Why does my mind have wings? Why do blue midgets hit me with fish?!" - The Tick
dude are you a poster named something havoc from Junkie. You twist words and bullshit your way through discussions.
No it means that Bisping does not have the power to keep any fighter honest they come and and throw at will. Bisping does not deal well with fighters who come forward on him alot he likes to pitty pat fighters and if he gets them to the ground unleash some serious ground and pound. When wand lands a shot or two bisping will start to run.
pllllllllease
god, let wand get another win… what is he in the ufc 1-3?
by cagefightonacid on Nov 24, 2009 4:19 PM EST via mobile reply actions
Yes
and all full of suck lately, even before being in the UFC. He’s a memory now.
"Why am I here? Why does my mind have wings? Why do blue midgets hit me with fish?!" - The Tick
All full of suck???
Yes, the Rampage fight sucked, but outside of that he has 1 brutal KO and 2 FOTN wins
I’m referring to his fight record, not his entertainment value.
"Why am I here? Why does my mind have wings? Why do blue midgets hit me with fish?!" - The Tick
I’m not talking about entertainment value either, he fought hard and lost tough decisions. Losing a fight =/= automatically sucking
He lost unanimous decisions, not tough decisions. As for fighting hard, welcome to professional level MMA. Fighting hard is something (almost) all of them do.
He is 1-3 in the UFC. His only win was over Jardine. Correct me where he has shown to be elite level lately?
"Why am I here? Why does my mind have wings? Why do blue midgets hit me with fish?!" - The Tick
What the hell man
there’s a difference between “not elite” and “sucking.” When have I ever said that he is elite status?
Look, I like Wanderlei, I do. But let’s be honest – if it wasn’t for his days in Pride, he’d barely be an undercarder in the UFC with his record. To me, he’s on the Cro Cop side of the former Pride fence, not the Rampage side.
"Why am I here? Why does my mind have wings? Why do blue midgets hit me with fish?!" - The Tick
You gotta stop dry humping the records man. Randy Couture has a 17-10 record while Jason Reinhardt has a million and one record. Who gives a fuck?
Not that I condone facism or any ism for that matter. Isms are in my opinion, not good. A person shouldn't believe in an ism, he should believe in himself.
I quote John Lennon, "I don't believe in Beatles, I just believe in me". Good point there, after all he was the walrus. I could be the walrus. Wouldn't change the fact I have to bum rides off of people.
Recent records matter
Overall records, I agree, because things change over time.
But recent records do matter, along with who they fought. If someone is 0-3 against (so called) Elite fighters, and their only win is against a mid-tier guy, there’s a good chance that fighter shouldn’t be considered elite anymore. Or do you disagree?
"Why am I here? Why does my mind have wings? Why do blue midgets hit me with fish?!" - The Tick
True
guess I should have pointed out that I meant his current stint. I wasn’t counting his fights from the previous decade.
"Why am I here? Why does my mind have wings? Why do blue midgets hit me with fish?!" - The Tick
I can only imagine the blow up you would have
If someone was talking crap like this about a fighter you thought was elite.
'He built his whole reputation as a waffle house chef. They’ve been serving him up ham and eggs with a side of canned tomatoes' - Don Frye on Fedor Emelianenko
by Well Read Idiot on Nov 25, 2009 9:23 AM EST up reply actions
umm
You know that there are people in this very thread hoping that a fighter actually gets killed, right?
Saying someone isn’t the fighter they used to be is far from the worst thing being said here…
"Why am I here? Why does my mind have wings? Why do blue midgets hit me with fish?!" - The Tick
They should have Tommy Smyth call the fight
I got Wandy by murder hands six-ways-to-Sunday
Also, he needs to bring back the Vale Tudo shorts to regain his mojo; look what it did for Shogun in his last fight.
We're just a million little gods causin' rain storms, turning every good thing to rust.
Interesting
Dana said Friday that they just signed a bout for Bisping that day but I wasn’t expecting Wandy. That’s a good fight.
War Wandy! Seriously, I can’t wait to see him knock Bispings head into the second row. What a beautiful fight this will be :)
by mictlantechutli on Nov 24, 2009 5:48 PM EST reply actions
This fight makes me happy, a win for either would be huge for the victor. Lets see how Wandy deals with that greasing piece of trash Akiyama though before we get all yippity for a clash with the Count.
comprehension fail
'He built his whole reputation as a waffle house chef. They’ve been serving him up ham and eggs with a side of canned tomatoes' - Don Frye on Fedor Emelianenko
by Well Read Idiot on Nov 25, 2009 9:24 AM EST up reply actions
Good fight, but it just seems strange, I thought the whole point of having Akiyama headline against a Pride superstar was to bring in the Japanese fans to UFC in a event broadcast during that time zone, surely this fight doesn’t appeal to them in nearly the same way.
I just hope Bisping talks trash about Wandy. Personally I can not wait to see another brutal rape choke knockout…..come to think about it I wouldn’t care if Wandy got DQed for headstomps and soccer kicks, it would be well worth it to see Bisping get his face kicked in
I have come here to chew bubblegum and kick some ass....and I'm all out of bubblegum.
Just bleed!
"Why am I here? Why does my mind have wings? Why do blue midgets hit me with fish?!" - The Tick
by mythbuster on Nov 24, 2009 8:09 PM EST up reply actions 1 recs
I hope Bisping likes death
Seattle Seahawks: The only team in the NFL to trail 17-17 according to Dick Stockton.
Silva isn't good anymore
His only good fight has been Liddell, who is a fellow aging vet who likes to just stand around and throw hands. He beat Jardine with an old trick, and Keith should have seen it coming. Franklin beat him, and Rampage showed what really good boxing can do against a guy that just wings it.
Bisping is kind of a composit of Jackson and Franklin, in that he has Jackson’s boxing (but not power) and Franklin’s cardio (but not overall talent). Wandy has never had to cut weight like this, and Bisping has done it a lot now. He proved his bottom game is good against a jitsu black belt in Kang, and showed that he is starting to develop a takedown game. He’ll do what he did to Kang . . . good use his reach and legs to keep Wandy’s power away, and then start with takedowns like he did with Kang. Bisping showed he can do some ground n’ pound against a black belt and not get reckless.
Look, Wandy can knock him out but, that’s it. He’s a one dimensional fighter in a truly mixed martial arts world. All the stars of the early decade are finding that out . . . Liddell, Silva, and Ortiz. If Bisping brings his game, like he did against Kang, he should win and win easily. If he feels Silva’s power and freaks out like he did against Henderson and starts doing the wrong thing, he’ll loose.
I think is Bisping brings his game he should win and do so easily. Silva’s a dog and he’ll bring the fight out in Bisping, but if The Count can control the fight like he did against Kang he’ll win. Look for him to use his reach and kickboxing to keep Silva out of the pocket and use his takedowns (they’re not pretty but they don’t have to be if they get him down) to tire Silva out and beat him. Just like Kang.
by mason_beer on Nov 24, 2009 9:14 PM EST reply actions 1 recs
Kang dident control posture and nor did he try thats why he got his face smashed into the mat. Bisping has skills but for a power puncher he does not have the power to keep him honest. The reason why Hendo kept coming forward is because he knew that Bisping could not hurt him. I believe if bisping is to win this fight it will be a leban style win as you said keep distance and try to pick at him for a decision
Listen I have to agree that Wand isn’t Wand anymore, but I still think it’s his fight to win. Bisping isn’t going to takedown and dominate Silva on the mat. That will not happen. Wand has always and still is too good to get pounded out or submitted by Bisping. Maybe Wanderlei’s cardio will be worse due to the weight cut, or maybe it’ll be better as a result of the surgery. Since coming back to the UFC he’s lost two close decisions to Franklin and Liddell, and while unanimous decision, they were damn close as fights, crushed Jardine, and got crushed by Rampage. Bisping’s going to have to outpoint a guy who’ll have no respect for his power. I expect Wand to catch him hard in the first round, and issue a steady beating in the second for a TKO. If Wanderlei can’t beat Bisping, I might agree that he’s done. But I think Bisping is tailor made for him.
by Kwisatz Haderach on Nov 25, 2009 2:11 AM EST up reply actions
His only good fight has been Liddell, who is a fellow aging vet who likes to just stand around and throw hands. He beat Jardine with an old trick, and Keith should have seen it coming. Franklin beat him, and Rampage showed what really good boxing can do against a guy that just wings it.
That’s one way of looking at it.
Another way of looking at it is that he basically stalemated two top 10 LHWs in Liddell & Franklin (both of those fights were extremely close), smashed a top 10 LHW in Jardine, and got smashed by a top 5 LHW in Rampage.
I think the rumors of Wand’s demise are greatly exaggerated. He has been thrown into the meat-grinder ever since joining the UFC and has only been blown out one time. The only difference I see between Pride Wand and UFC Wand (aside from the obvious physique differences) is that he no longer has the great recovery ability he used to possess. In his prime, you could knock him silly and he’d snap back into awareness almost immediately. These days, he doesn’t recover his bearings nearly as quickly.
Wand still has more than enough left in the tank to knock off fringe top 10 guys like Bisping.
by Steve4192 on Nov 25, 2009 10:51 AM EST up reply actions 1 recs
he is a victim of the 10 point must in my opinion
by mr. gogoplata on Nov 25, 2009 12:13 PM EST up reply actions
Rec'd
I agree with everything you said, and you said it much better than I tried to :)
"Why am I here? Why does my mind have wings? Why do blue midgets hit me with fish?!" - The Tick
i can tell we would never get along Mason
by mr. gogoplata on Nov 25, 2009 11:56 AM EST up reply actions
..
As someone who will be attending this event live i have to say I’m very, very disappointed to hear about this. I really have no interest at all in watching Bisping fight and it kinda sucks that there haven’t been any injuries yet the card has gotten worse over the last week or so.
Oh well just happy we get a show here and i hope Wanderlei can put Bisping down hard…
I hope you're right
I would love to finally see the Wanderlei Silva people keep talking about.
"Why am I here? Why does my mind have wings? Why do blue midgets hit me with fish?!" - The Tick
time will tell but if used to put down heavyweights i wonder whats gonna happen to middleweights
http://video.google.com/videosearch?hl=en&q=wanderlei%20silva%20kazuya%20fujita&um=1&ie=UTF-8&sa=N&tab=wv#q=wanderlei+silva+vs+fujita&hl=en&view=2&emb=0&qvid=wanderlei+silva+vs+fujita&vid=-2656362317576026836
by mr. gogoplata on Nov 25, 2009 12:33 PM EST up reply actions
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