What if Kimbo beats Houston Alexander?

by NCSAR on Nov 24, 2009 1:26 PM EST Comment 36 comments

That is the question that I have been asked by everyone I work with today. Many are your typical fan that think Kimbo is terrible, but some are die hard Kimbo lovers.

I broke down my opinion here

What do you guys think? IF and it is still a big if, he does win...what would be next? Would he get another stand up fighter with no ground game? Would he ever be able to string together a few wins against legit competition? lol I don't think so either...

We all can anticipate Kimbo getting a UFC contract. Dana and the UFC crew are not going to turn their back on someone that can bring in millions of extra dollars to the organization. So what if he can’t fight, they give him a four fight deal…Millions of dollars. Kimbo will also be bringing in a new set of fans that just want to see him fight. Pair him with a UFC 101 Anderson Silva type of performance and they will be hooked.

The idea that Kimbo will ever be a UFC force is nothing more than a bedtime story. He doesn’t have the skills, the fighters are quickly getting better, and age is not on his side.

That being said, what if he beats Houston Alexander? Many already question Houston’s role in the UFC. We know that his jits game is…non-existent…and all he has is his stand up game.

That does make for an interesting match up of two guys that are going to bang. Houston could be the best stand up fighter Kimbo has faced but if he can weather the initial storm he has a real shot to beat him.

If that happens I would argue that Kimbo won the battle. Dana challenged him and he won.

I foresee (and I am no Ms. Cleo) that a win gets him a UFC contract. The most Kimbo could truly ever really ask for is to be a UFC gatekeeper. At 205 or heavyweight he would be considered an underdog against about everyone. It is fair to say that this fight is his Superbowl.

A loss equals nothing more than the old college try. He goes to Strikeforce, fights on regular TV, and rides off slowly into the sunset.

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Kimbo is getting a long term contract no matter what. The guy will probably go 0-5 in the UFC and then retire saying he did his best.

Keep firing Assholes!

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by Ubernoober on Nov 24, 2009 1:33 PM EST reply actions 0 recs

The funny thing is, I could see that happen!

by NCSAR on Nov 24, 2009 2:40 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs

Easy, he won’t.

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by xFenixKnightx on Nov 24, 2009 1:35 PM EST reply actions 0 recs

Any of you Omaha guys know Houston? Tell him – Leg Kicks! Leg Kicks!

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by BadB on Nov 24, 2009 1:58 PM EST reply actions 0 recs

Don’t be surprised to see Houston throwing some leg kicks in this fight. I went and watched him against Sherman Pendergarst at the Adrenaline show in Council Bluffs a couple months ago and he pretty much TKO’d Pendergarst with leg kicks. They were just bombing kicks and everyone around me was like, “WTF —when did HA start throwing leg kicks?” They were nasty, and they were a nice new skill set we hadn’t really seen out of him before. A few of those will slow down any attempt by Kimbo to get in close. Houston also has a decent Muay Thai clinch and some good knees (as Jardine can attest), so he’s actually got more than just the heavy hands to throw at Kimbo.

by Kierkegaard on Nov 24, 2009 2:08 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs

" We know that his jits game is…non-existent…and all he has is his stand up game."

I don’t think I would use this as an argument for why Kimbo could win- because you could say the same thing about both guys. The difference is Houston has already fought and defeated top UFC competition while Kimbo hasn’t.

"I thought I won the first round and I thought I won the second round. You see the damage on his face? I got him good," Ortiz said after the fight. "For me coming back, this was supposed to be a warm-up fight. Me and Dana talked about it being a warm-up fight, but Forrest is no warm-up fight, being ranked fifth in the world. I might have bitten off a little too much, but I still thought I won the fight....After back surgery, back after only one year. I want to see another athlete do what I do after one year of having two-level fusion."- Tito Ortiz, who apparently thinks he won the fight against Forrest Griffin

by ufc4 on Nov 24, 2009 2:04 PM EST via mobile reply actions 0 recs

You can say the same about both…but we all know that if Kimbo was fighting anyone with at least a purple belt he would be in trouble!

The fact that he knows Houston is going to stand and bang only helps him. No submission, just fists flying from everywhere.

by NCSAR on Nov 24, 2009 2:42 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs

Skala says “Pay the man!”.

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by bubbafat on Nov 24, 2009 3:01 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs

Why is everybody such a hater?

by BakiHanma21 on Nov 24, 2009 2:07 PM EST reply actions 0 recs

thanks to TUF, i actually like kimbo slice… but that doesnt make him a good fighter.

I'm old school hating Lesnar, I've been hating Lesnar since '08

by MicahW on Nov 24, 2009 2:15 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs

Agreed. I was never on the Kimbo bandwagon while he was with XC just cuz I couldn’t stand the hype but after seeing him in the house and showing his human side I’m rooting for the guy. I don’t think he can beat Houston but it would be great if he did.

by ufc4 on Nov 24, 2009 4:49 PM EST via mobile up reply actions 0 recs

kimbo is the best hustler in mma he went form youtube sensation to elite xc to

tuf 10 show to a fight with alexander on tuf 10 finale. i’ll give the man his props.

yes i am obsessive, obnoxious, in your face and all about covering the spread. those are my good qualities.

by wolfmanshowlforever on Nov 25, 2009 1:56 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs

Props, but no capital letters. Got it.

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by duck on Nov 26, 2009 9:30 AM EST up reply actions 0 recs

he doesn’t need to beat Houston he has to beat the enemy……the inner-me

by mr. gogoplata on Nov 24, 2009 2:21 PM EST reply actions 1 recs

Don't fear Houston

FEAR THE CONSEQUENCES

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by ElliotMatheny on Nov 24, 2009 4:12 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs

Give the guy a chance

he never said he was the best in the world. Elite xc gave him a lot of money so he took it like anybody else would. He was a stand up guy on the show also. He lost to Roy Nelson who sat on him. Roy is a legit fighter. Im sure he learned alot on the show and will prove his haters wrong. Will he ever win a title hell no but will make for some good scraps. Freakin Tank Abbott lost like 30 times in the UFC and somehow people still loved to watcch him. If Dana wants to fill some ppvs you need a Kimbo on it. Plus I think he will beat Alexander. Just do not match him up against a morbidly obese guy and all will be good.

by ElStIkO on Nov 24, 2009 4:09 PM EST reply actions 0 recs

Brock Lesnar and Frank Mir aren’t morbidly obese, how do you think a fight with either of those guys would turn out?

by ufc4 on Nov 24, 2009 4:50 PM EST via mobile up reply actions 0 recs

would never happen

he is going to fight at light-heavy and I also said he would not win a title. But for a ppv filler he makes for an entertaining fight.

by ElStIkO on Nov 24, 2009 5:14 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs

Way to sidestep the question. You are the one who brought up Roy Nelson (a HW) not me.

by ufc4 on Nov 24, 2009 6:30 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs

Mir and Lesnar are at the top in Heavyweight Division

I said he would be competitive of course he couldnt beat those guys I think you misunderstood what I was saying. Im saying he belongs on the roster

by ElStIkO on Nov 24, 2009 7:58 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs

Roy sat on him.

And Koscheck hugged Rumble’s neck until he got bored and quit.

by pdl on Nov 24, 2009 6:56 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs

Or Jits guys

What also worries me is that if the UFC starts scheduling him against “hand picked” opponents, then are they really doing things that much different than Elite XC did for him?

by NCSAR on Nov 24, 2009 4:23 PM EST reply actions 0 recs

Not really since he won’t main event any shows. They hanpicked alot of fights for Bisping until they had to throw him a contender in Hendo, so this isn’t just a Kimbo thing.

by bmark6197 on Nov 24, 2009 4:50 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs

WHAT?!

they hand picked fights for bisping? i think you better learn a bit more about the sport before you post bullshit like that.

by quick rick on Nov 26, 2009 4:17 AM EST up reply actions 0 recs

You're kidding, right?

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by duck on Nov 26, 2009 9:38 AM EST up reply actions 0 recs

He has to be kidding. Sounds way too serious to be sarcasm.

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by Benicio on Nov 26, 2009 11:34 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs

EXC had him headlining shows against tailor made KO victims and was telling anyone who would listen that he was the greatest thing since tits. The UFC is working the angle that he’s a blue collar underdog trying to make it in the big leagues.

I also can’t think of a hand picked HW on the UFC’s roster for him.

Keep firing Assholes!

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by Ubernoober on Nov 24, 2009 5:01 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs

I think that's the major difference

I never cared that Kimbo was main eventing, I understood the economics of it. But treating him like a top-flight fighter was incredibly irritating and condescending. The Rocky! Rocky! thing after Petruzelli KOed him was one of the most ridiculous things I’ve ever seen in MMA.

by Trysdor on Nov 24, 2009 5:28 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs

If Kimbo wins?

Then he still fights Liddell, but the fight now has some small, insignificant meaning, and the hype will be enormous.

And Houston gets depressed, drunk, and put on suicide watch.

by Shaun32887 on Nov 24, 2009 5:31 PM EST reply actions 0 recs

kimbo/liddell could be a ppv bonanza

all that smack talk from liddell when he was on that show on hdnet. i would love to see it. i would like nothing better than kimbo ktfo of liddell.

yes i am obsessive, obnoxious, in your face and all about covering the spread. those are my good qualities.

by wolfmanshowlforever on Nov 25, 2009 11:53 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs

I think its a slippery slope with kimbo associated with the promotion and one that will ultimately cause the sport to lose credibility. If he wins I see him co-main on a future card against some can. And hearing his name a bazillion times in promotion of said event.

And alexander by leg kicks.

by brooksto on Nov 25, 2009 9:12 PM EST reply actions 0 recs

How is the sport going to lose credibility over one fighter?

The UFC may lose some credibility depending how they handle Kimbo but the sport has shrugged off far worse scandals.

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by Benicio on Nov 26, 2009 11:36 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs

I want Houston to win SOOOO bad

I love Kimbo, but I love Houston more and this could be his coming out party after a rough recent run

by HighNoon on Nov 25, 2009 9:34 PM EST reply actions 0 recs

If he wins this then I’d assume he’d get a crack at someone like Buentello, Yvel or Barry. He probably wouldn’t win any of em but then again he most likely won’t win this one. It’d be cool if he did though.

Not that I condone facism or any ism for that matter. Isms are in my opinion, not good. A person shouldn't believe in an ism, he should believe in himself.

I quote John Lennon, "I don't believe in Beatles, I just believe in me". Good point there, after all he was the walrus. I could be the walrus. Wouldn't change the fact I have to bum rides off of people.

by SamCupitt on Dec 4, 2009 9:25 AM EST reply actions 0 recs

Houston could be the best stand up fighter Kimbo has faced but if he can weather the initial storm he has a real shot to beat him.

I don’t understand this sentence. You can’t possibly mean that Kimbo has a shot at beating Houston if Kimbo withstands Houston’s initial storm. No way. Kimbo’s only shot at winning this is to come out crazy and catch him. After that, his chances diminish rapidly. And that’s without considering the weight cut, which is going to further empty Kimbo’s tank.

Houston Alexander has the tools to wear Kimbo down and go in for the kill. There doesn’t need to be an initial storm.

by cmsove on Dec 4, 2009 10:35 AM EST reply actions 0 recs

I agree.

It’s not like Houston has ever been a guy who comes out and swarms his opponents. Even in the signature win of his career (Jardine), it was Houston who weathered the storm before coming back to record a highlight reel KO. Jardine had him hurt BAD before Houston pulled victory from the jaws of defeat.

by Steve4192 on Dec 4, 2009 12:06 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs