Antonio Rogerio Nogueira's Future May Be Bright Following Knockout Performance
Following UFC 104's light heavyweight title bout between current UFC Light Heavyweight champion Lyoto "The Dragon" Machida and PRIDE Grand Prix champion Mauricio "Shogun" Rua in which Machida won by way of a controversial unanimous decision, there was a tremendous amount of discussion surrounding the future of the division in regards to who may break into the contention role following the announced May rematch between Machida and Rua. Many fans felt that either Quinton "Rampage" Jackson would return from his "retirement" to battle the champion, the winner of Rashad Evans vs. Thiago Silva would make the jump, or Randy Couture would be given a crack at Machida following a couple of victories.
Of course, most of the possibilities hinge on a Mauricio "Shogun" Rua victory as he hasn't fought most of the past contenders in the division. A Lyoto Machida win in the rematch would limit the amount of challengers with Randy Couture probably being the leading candidate with a win against Mark Coleman since Machida has defeated Rashad Evans and Thiago Silva.
There is one possibility that became even more intriguing following his performance on Saturday night. Antonio Rogerio "Minotouro" Nogueira's quick boxing and overhand left completely devastated rising star Luiz Cane, giving Rogerio the "Knockout of the Night" and adding an impressive finish to a career that has featured more decisions than knockouts. I talked about the Cane vs. Nogueira bout being a dark horse candidate for the winner vaulting himself into contention talk, and Nogueira may have very well put himself in line for a shot at either Machida or Rua following another win.
Not only is Nogueira a fresh face in the mix at the top of the division, but he also has extensive experience against some of the top talent including Mauricio "Shogun" Rua. He presents a formidable challenge to nearly anyone in the division with highly-credential boxing and Brazilian jiu-jitsu, and it wouldn't be a tough sell to fans if he can reproduce another spectacular knockout in his next challenge.
There are a couple of points I'd like to touch on in regards to Nogueira's performance that I think are pertinent to the discussion of his rise in the ranks. One of the major criticisms in the lead-up to this bout was that Nogueira had been slowing in his past fights, a deficiency that was also attributed to his brother's loss against Frank Mir.
The other major problem that many fans felt was a huge minus for Nogueira was that his boxing has never been a tremendous producer of finishes, and he's been known as more of a peppering fighter who could cruise to a decision. He didn't show tremendous defense, just like his brother, and the transition to the UFC was seen as a little late as many felt UFC-level fighters would pepper his chin with shots and take decisions from him.
While those problems were ultimately the reason why many fans chose to doubt Nogueira's abilities to defeat Cane, Nogueira came out with quickness and power in his boxing that was combined with an intelligence that led the way to victory. Not only was Nogueira's quick jab and overhand combination working efficiently and effectively, but it was evident that a meticulous study of Cane's weaknesses had revealed the key to punishing Cane's chin. Cane's left continued to drop throughout the round following Nogueira's quick jab, and the combination jab-overhand left completely devastated Cane on multiple occasions, eventually ending the bout.
Dana White should be surprised at the performance. Nogueira has hurt opponents with his punches in the past, but he has never punched an opponent unconscious in his eight year mixed martial arts career. Even more interesting, Ed Soares has mentioned in the past that both Nogueira and Machida would fight if the title was involved. Right now however, I believe Nogueira may be looking for a rematch with Mauricio "Shogun" Rua before a title run, but there is no doubt that his performance at UFC 106 has pushed him into the top portion of the division.
There has been talk of Keith Jardine or Forrest Griffin being potential match-ups for Nogueira. Both fights are solid second bouts in the UFC, and both could easily be launching points for Nogueira into a contention fight or title fight depending on who wins the rematch. Although the bump to title contention so quickly isn't the most fair move by the UFC, it makes sense if Machida happens to win as Nogueira will be a fresh face with impressive wins.
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I had my doubts about Little Nog, particularly after he lost to that African guy (Sokuju sp?). But he looked in top form against Cane. Maybe the Nog brothers are benefiting by training with Anderson Silva. However, I though I caught a post fight interview with Little Nog where he said he would not fight Machida.
I don’t get what is up with this decision talks, he finished most of his fights, if not by KO than by subs. Machida on the other hand has way more decisions on his plate (not to take anything away from Machida, but only on the “decision” talk). I would love to see Nog vs Shogun II though, and Nog vs Machida. Next fight for Nog though should be Rich Franklin with Nog getting the next crack at the title with a win.
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a merda bate na água e a água bate na bunda.
So we can feed the poor guy to a third lefty Brazilian? Why do you hate Rich so much? :)
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I don’t, but he’s the only one available in the LHW division, even though he hasn’t fought at 205 yet. He’s also very dangerous, and a former champion, if Nog is not going to be able to fight a top 10 guy in LHW right now, than it better be a former champion ie Rich :P
cagar é uma filosofia profunda...
a merda bate na água e a água bate na bunda.
even though he hasn’t fought at 205 yet.
Rich Franklin? He fought both Matt Hammill and Dan Henderson at 205.
LHW ranges from 186 to 205, so technically 195 is in the 205 weight class.
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Clearly, you weren’t heavily into the sport during his PRIDE run. It was a discussion that a lot of us had at the time because he dropped off in finishing ability due to the level of competition he faced. That was all that was being said.
Also, there was never a comparison to Machida. Not sure why that’s involved at all.
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by Leland Roling on Nov 23, 2009 9:49 PM EST up reply actions
Ok, one, yes I was heavily into the sport during Pride (the whole pride era, I was not heavily in the UFC though until it bought Pride) but I guess you couldn’t take that from one comment… Two, you were talking in general, not during his Pride run only. Three, I just felt like making a comparison with Machida because he’s a great example of someone who has a big history of decisions and was able to get his title shot (yes, I know the circumstances with Page and all), and for this it would not negate Nog (even though Nog does not have that history).
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a merda bate na água e a água bate na bunda.
In general, he has been criticized of that. Mostly due to the better competition he faced in PRIDE.
Machida is a good example, and the improvement has shown in how he is trying to end fights now, but Nogueira has a style that doesn’t present a finishing aspect to his game. With all great fighters however, he can improve. I’m assuming his camps with a rejuvenated Rodrigo and Anderson Silva are helping
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by Leland Roling on Nov 24, 2009 9:18 AM EST up reply actions
I disagree
I think he has always tried to finish fights, but we’ll have to agree to disagree :P
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a merda bate na água e a água bate na bunda.
Do we really have to go through this anti-decision mentality again? Tired of hearing it. Rogerio is one of my favorite fighters and that’s because every one of his fights are pretty exciting. He fights exclusively tough fighters so it’s no surprise that he doesn’t definitively finish every time. People didn’t say anything before he was in the UFC but now that he’s a threat to their perception of the LHW division, there’s all sorts of narcissistic drivel about how he “hasn’t punched an opponent unconscious” as if that somehow disqualifies him from being a top-level fighter. We went through this already with Machida to extensively lengths and people came out on the logical end of things. It’s okay to win decisions; it takes just the right circumstances for a perfect KO or highlight submission.
And as far as Sokoudjou goes, nobody can deny his athleticism and explosive style. It’s easy for a guy like Luiz Cane or Babalu to look at his fights and be like “okay, just don’t get knocked out in the first round.” Rogerio and Arona didn’t really have that luxury so much, as he was entirely new to the scene. I’m not saying this to invalidate Rogerio’s loss to him, just that people shouldn’t point to that fight as evidence that Rogerio is weak.
by Ahhhoki on Nov 23, 2009 5:49 PM EST reply actions 1 recs
11 of 18 wins by stoppage. Not bad, I think they just want him to have another knockout to make him easier to sell to casuals in the case of a title shot.
Should Shogun win the title and Lil Nog win his next fight, you can bet your ass they’ll be pumping their old PRIDE fight on Spike.
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by Anthony Pace on Nov 23, 2009 6:16 PM EST up reply actions
godamn it
still my all time favorite fight
cagar é uma filosofia profunda...
a merda bate na água e a água bate na bunda.
Yes, we do.
It was a heavy piece of discussion back in PRIDE and a good point to make since he dropped Cane in the first round via KO.
He is an exciting fighter, one of my favorite fighters, and the decision discussion is from PRIDE.
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by Leland Roling on Nov 23, 2009 9:50 PM EST up reply actions
in which Machida won by way of a controversial split* decision
*unanimous
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controversial is controversial no matter what the judges said.
Everyone has a game plan, untell they get hit.
And a unanimous decision win is a unanimous decision win no matter what the internet says.
Guillotine.
by iiowyn on Nov 23, 2009 9:03 PM EST up reply actions 1 recs
Lil' Nog is BACK
It’s good to see big nog getting back to old form and it’ll be even better when little nog makes his make among the top guys in the UFC. I see don’t get why Randy is in title contention, but my MMA maths have always been a bit off.
I don’t think that there’s actually an argument that lil’ nog doesn’t finish fights, just people who haven’t watched enough of his brawls.
Randy > Tito > Forrest (three yrs ago..) > Shogun = Randy No. 1 contender
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by Anthony Pace on Nov 23, 2009 6:35 PM EST up reply actions

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