Clinch Gear Comments On UFC Ban, RVCA Shares Same Fate
I reported last night in my fanshot that RVCA and Clinch Gear had been banned from the UFC. Clinch Gear now comments on the situation, via the UG:
Let me clear a few things up. Dan Henderson owns the Clinch Gear, and I manage that business for him. We did have an agreement with Zuffa and were paying them monthly for the right to sponsor fighters in the UFC. The WEC does not currently charge a fee.
I received a phone call from a Zuffa representative about 10 days ago informing me that Dana decided to terminate our agreement and ban Clinch Gear from the UFC and WEC because Dan declined their most recent contract offer. Considering Zuffa's history, it was neither surprising nor unexpected--it's just business. If Dan ever returns to the UFC, I would imagine that the ban on Clinch Gear will be lifted.
Zuffa has every right to ban Clinch Gear, so we are appreciative that they allowed us to follow through with the three fighters we had previously agreed to sponsor for UFC 105, as I would have hated to leave those guys in a lurch the week before the event.
On a related note, I was also informed by the same representative that RVCA was banned due to their sponsor relationship with Fedor. Ironically, he had just been featured in one of their shirts on TUF a day earlier, though the episode was filmed months before.
We will continue to sponsor athletes in organizations such as Strikeforce, so we certainly are not without alternatives. Furthermore, because we serve the endemic market, we are far less dependent upon an affiliation with the UFC as are the many lifestyle brands. In fact, most casual viewers who don't train have probably never seen our products in retail setting, as we currently focus exclusively on distribution through gyms and MMA specialty stores. In addition, we offer custom shorts and rash guards for MMA gyms and wrestling teams, and that business is booming.
Due to our modest budget, we primarily sponsored undercard fighters in the UFC and the WEC, and the people most affected by this decision are those athletes. It narrows their options and could reduce their income, as many larger clothing companies limit their sponsorships to fighters who are scheduled for the televised cards.
Clinch Gear will remain a core brand in the MMA industry and will continue to develop innovative products and business strategies. Dan and I are thankful to everyone who has supported the Clinch Gear brand and contributed to our growth and success.
Aaron Crecy
Clinch Gear
Fighers Only Magazine was also able to confirm what I was reporting earlier today.
RVCA and Clinch Gear have become the two latest additions to the UFC’s sponsorship blacklist, it was confirmed today. The bannings were the subject of much discussion among industry insiders at the weekend’s UFC 105 event, but were not confirmed until today.
RVCA has attracted the ire of the UFC by sponsoring Fedor Emelianenko for his fight with Brett Rogers on the recent Strikeforce/CBS show. As a long-time sponsor of lightweight champion BJ Penn, the brand is a familiar one with UFC fans.
Clinch Gear has been banned from the Octagon for obvious reasons. The brand is Dan Henderson’s own clothing line and as the UFC and he are no longer seeing eye to eye, the label is not welcome in the cage. Relations between UFC president Dana White and Henderson have apparently been cordial during negotiations but this latest move may upset the former Pride double-champion.
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The UFC is twisting Dan’s nipples to get him to sign.
by Discman2 on Nov 17, 2009 9:44 PM EST reply actions 0 recs
RVCA Banned by UFC
Banning RVCA as a sponsor strikes me as odd considering Dana White wears RVCA shirts about as often as he wears that CBGB shirt of his.
I guess we’ll see Dana in more Tapout and Affliction stuff from now on.
No one’s going to confuse me for the guy making all the anti-Zuffa posts, but let’s be honest; this is petty at best.
As a huge fan of BJ Penn, I object to this move. I’d like to hear Dana’s comments on the situation.
...Behold, a pale horse. The man that sat upon it was Wieters, and hell followed with him.
"BJ on the BE" - Kierkegaard
by Brett Jones on Nov 17, 2009 9:45 PM EST reply actions 0 recs
..or BJ's
It seems petty that they’d break off these sponsorships, but the rep from CG seemed totally accepting— as though he knows and accepts that this is how things work.
"I’m sorry. I didn’t drink last night, so I’m not funny today."
-Sakuraba
by Blackout612 on Nov 17, 2009 9:50 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Well, BJ is also sponsored by Cage Fighter, which although was either close to or actually was banned for a time, is actually an accepted UFC sponsor at this point as far as I know.
But BJ has his own RVCA line that goes several items deep, so I suspect he won’t be thrilled.
...Behold, a pale horse. The man that sat upon it was Wieters, and hell followed with him.
"BJ on the BE" - Kierkegaard
by Brett Jones on Nov 17, 2009 10:03 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
He wont be thrilled but getting sponsors who pay well for your walk out wear on a UFC broadcast is not a problem.
Clinch Gear can be replaced by a dozen other smaller sponsors for under card and prelim fighters. Punishment Athletics is off the ban list :)
The Zuffa umbrella for sponsorships is becoming pseudo exclusive… meaning if you’re not in the umbrella you wont benefit from it.
Sign with strikeforce and you can look forward to the rockstar energy drink deals.
by mmalogic on Nov 17, 2009 10:47 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Unfortunately, this strategy has it’s faults.
by bignerd on Nov 18, 2009 1:39 AM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Zuffa is using the premium sponsorship angle and Strikeforce is using the open door sponsorship angle.
Each has advantages and disadvantages but you have to pick your point.
Once implemented fully the cream of the sponsorship pie will be exclusive in the Zuffa umbrella.
How many T-shirt companies do you think will eventually last in this space? not many it always starts out scattered and then consolidates and liquidates out the crap. I have the “Wear and Tear”™ by the way coming to a retailer near you.
by mmalogic on Nov 18, 2009 2:09 AM EST up reply actions 0 recs
LMAO at this
Zuffa is using the premium sponsorship angle and Strikeforce is using the open door sponsorship angle.
Psst did you actually read the fan post . . . Zuffa is taking the cronyism angle. That’s a terrible economic model.
by bignerd on Nov 18, 2009 3:01 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
So I guess the NFL is not as smart as you… you should teach them some of your “economic models”.
by mmalogic on Nov 18, 2009 4:20 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
NFL doesn't follow the model of cronyism
If a vendor wants merchandising rights for an item the NFL assess a licensing fee. If Rebook wants exclusive merchandising rights throughout the NFL than they add up the revenue generated from all their merchandising deals plus tack on a huge exclusive fee and that’s the bill to Reebok. The NFL makes more money. Vendor A wants to take over the spot of Vendor B, they pay the licensing fee of Vendor B.
If some pretzel vendor want’s open up a booth at Heinz field in Pittsburgh, he isn’t denied the lease because his son plays for the Baltimore Ravens. The owner takes the money, if a second pretzel vendor wants to setup shop on the other side of the stadium than the owner finds a way to take their money too.
In UFC’s case they are kicking out a sponsor and revenue without a competing sponsor paying to take their place. It’s just pissing away revenue for the sake of being pissy.
by bignerd on Nov 18, 2009 7:41 PM EST up reply actions 1 recs
So were any NFL exlcusive sponsors working with other competing football leagues?
in regards to replacing sponsors? There’s no room as it is. You think BJ penn will have a problem with getting a walk out deal?
You think clinch gear is leaving a hope in the sponsorship space?
You’re right Zuffa will hurt its negotiating ability and help Strikeforce’s. Keep believing you’re smarter.
The guys with the fattest payments are with Zuffa (tapout, silver star, affliction, etc…) who the fuck do you think the premium athletes will want to make a deal with?
by mmalogic on Nov 18, 2009 8:06 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
So were any NFL exlcusive sponsors working with other competing football leagues?
Yes. You got the definition of exclusive backwards. They pay UFC just have their brand exclusively all over the UFC. They don’t pay UFC to be excluded from sponsorship opportunities outside the UFC.
In regards to replacing sponsors? There’s no room as it is. You think BJ penn will have a problem with getting a walk out deal?
He could just add another sponsor instead replacing one. Financially that spinning your wheels.
You think clinch gear is leaving a hope in the sponsorship space?
You’re right Zuffa will hurt its negotiating ability and help Strikeforce’s. Keep believing you’re smarter.
Neither point matters to the UFC P/L sheet. They are paying the competition when they would pay the UFC’s asking price.
The guys with the fattest payments are with Zuffa (tapout, silver star, affliction, etc…) who the fuck do you think the premium athletes will want to make a deal with?
Certainly the UFC is making it easier for these outlets to remain premium sponsors at UFC’s own expense. One less competitor Tapout has to compete with for air time. Didn’t cost them a cent, UFC did it for free when they might be compelled to pay for it.
by bignerd on Nov 18, 2009 8:45 PM EST up reply actions 1 recs
Yes. You got the definition of exclusive backwards. They pay UFC just have their brand exclusively all over the UFC.
So which T-shirt company is the exclusive t-shirt company for Zuffa? you are confusing yourself and look silly.
They don’t pay UFC to be excluded from sponsorship opportunities outside the UFC.
Really? that’s up to the brand and Zuffa dont you think? RVCA found out what they pay for and the conditions are.
Neither point matters to the UFC P/L sheet. They are paying the competition when they would pay the UFC’s asking price.
strikeforce doesnt take a fee from sponsors of fighters. Did RVCA sponsor strikeforce? or did clinchgear sponsor strikeforce? NO.
Lets use our brains for a second… how many sponsorship spaces do you think Zuffa has? How many sponsorship spaces do you think a fighter has?
Do you now see why being selective doesnt matter as the hole will always fill up? Especially when you’re in Zuffa’s position.
Certainly the UFC is making it easier for these outlets to remain premium sponsors at UFC’s own expense. One less competitor Tapout has to compete with for air time. Didn’t cost them a cent, UFC did it for free when they might be compelled to pay for it.
So you think Clinch Gear is competition for tapout? Do you realize how many premium brands and options are available at Zuffa? There’s no shortage.
You somehow think this strategy a net negative for Zuffa… ok fine. I accept your opinion. Keep thinking that and good luck with it.
by mmalogic on Nov 19, 2009 12:11 AM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Sign with strikeforce and you can look forward to the rockstar energy drink deals.
And EA Sports, and apparently Clinch Gear and RVCA now, plus anyone else that wants to sponsor any fighter since there is nothing that prohibits them.
=)
by MMASuPreMaCy on Nov 18, 2009 2:08 AM EST up reply actions 0 recs
yeah, sure…
make 15k by signing with EA or make 40k in undisputed. Clinch Gear is worthless… there’s 3 dozen of those companies sponsoring for peanuts everywhere.
RVCA will be bak depending on their goals. Affliction came back instead of going to strikeforce with all that bad blood cuz they know which teet actually holds the milk.
If Affliction wasn’t stupid they could have sold out by now for bocu bucks… Tapout will be bought out by a huge entity within the next year or so.
by mmalogic on Nov 18, 2009 2:14 AM EST up reply actions 0 recs
1) I guess there is always War Godz, but Strikeforce on Showtime/CBs will have to do for now.
2) You mean the UFC will fully control Tapout within the next year or so?
by MMASuPreMaCy on Nov 18, 2009 2:18 AM EST up reply actions 0 recs
when I say “exclusive” I mean “pseudo” exclusive. Small shows are still considered to be “under the Zuffa umbrella” to a certain extent so this has nothing to do with boxing out the smaller shows.
No I dont mean Zuffa will buy out Tapout… Im talking about the biggest players in the apparel business will be purchasing a significant stake in Tapout.
by mmalogic on Nov 18, 2009 2:32 AM EST up reply actions 0 recs
The silliest mistake anyone could do right now is put anything into one of this t-shirt companies This is a bubble waiting to burst and I hope a lot of fighters have got back up plans for new sponsorship.
by nottheface on Nov 18, 2009 7:46 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
I just ordered the Fedor shirt in red.
"I’m sorry. I didn’t drink last night, so I’m not funny today."
-Sakuraba
by Blackout612 on Nov 17, 2009 9:48 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
NICE!
The Fedor shirt in Red or Black has become really popular.
by MMASuPreMaCy on Nov 17, 2009 9:51 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
I thought the red one looked best. Besides, almost all of my tee’s are black so I gotta mix it up.
"I’m sorry. I didn’t drink last night, so I’m not funny today."
-Sakuraba
by Blackout612 on Nov 17, 2009 9:55 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
All Russian-themed shirts looks best in red.
Ever tried. Ever failed. No matter. Try Again. Fail again. Fail better. -Samuel Beckett
by themachiavellian on Nov 17, 2009 11:11 PM EST up reply actions 1 recs
You’re right. I wonder if it’s too late to change my order.
...Behold, a pale horse. The man that sat upon it was Wieters, and hell followed with him.
"BJ on the BE" - Kierkegaard
by Brett Jones on Nov 17, 2009 11:29 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
If it hasn’t shipped, you should be golden. If you ordered from Sherdog, they have a phone line, too.
"I’m sorry. I didn’t drink last night, so I’m not funny today."
-Sakuraba
by Blackout612 on Nov 17, 2009 11:33 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
mmawarehouse.
I’m not really going to change the order, but he makes a good point. Red on white looks good to me. Still has read.
Besides, if I get the white on red, I’ll be developing a very communist wardrobe. I already have this:
...Behold, a pale horse. The man that sat upon it was Wieters, and hell followed with him.
"BJ on the BE" - Kierkegaard
by Brett Jones on Nov 17, 2009 11:36 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Great. So when I’m back in Minneapolis and I see someone wearing it I’ll know who to punch in the back of the head.
(insert sarcasm emoticon here)
by nottheface on Nov 17, 2009 9:54 PM EST via mobile up reply actions 0 recs
I have a hard head
Literally and figuratively. You should try a neck-punch.
"I’m sorry. I didn’t drink last night, so I’m not funny today."
-Sakuraba
by Blackout612 on Nov 17, 2009 9:57 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Always go with the neck punch. Always.
...Behold, a pale horse. The man that sat upon it was Wieters, and hell followed with him.
"BJ on the BE" - Kierkegaard
by Brett Jones on Nov 17, 2009 9:59 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
I'm a coward
Literally. So I’d probably just throw a rock from across the street and run.
by nottheface on Nov 17, 2009 10:03 PM EST via mobile up reply actions 0 recs
Well
Good thing the shirt is already red!
"I’m sorry. I didn’t drink last night, so I’m not funny today."
-Sakuraba
by Blackout612 on Nov 17, 2009 10:08 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
I really do like that Fedor shirt, actually. I should probably buy the red on white.
I like white shirts.
I have this, for the record:

...Behold, a pale horse. The man that sat upon it was Wieters, and hell followed with him.
"BJ on the BE" - Kierkegaard
by Brett Jones on Nov 17, 2009 9:54 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
I actually bought the white Fedor shirt. 39 damn dollars for a t-shirt. I’ve lost my damn mind.
...Behold, a pale horse. The man that sat upon it was Wieters, and hell followed with him.
"BJ on the BE" - Kierkegaard
by Brett Jones on Nov 17, 2009 9:59 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Yeah, isn't it ridiculous?
And all of these sites have the nerve to show that it’s supposedly originally around 50. It’s a t-shirt.
"I’m sorry. I didn’t drink last night, so I’m not funny today."
-Sakuraba
by Blackout612 on Nov 17, 2009 10:09 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
I can’t imagine a scenario in which I would pay $50 for a t-shirt.
Well, I can, but it would involve me either taking Dana White’s job or slinging H.
...Behold, a pale horse. The man that sat upon it was Wieters, and hell followed with him.
"BJ on the BE" - Kierkegaard
by Brett Jones on Nov 17, 2009 10:11 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
in terms of sponsorships, eyeballs are everything.
Average UFC PPV- 500k-700k television sets.
Average Strikeforce Card on CBS- 4 million television sets.
It’s not hard to see which company provides an outlet with more eyeballs.
by mhauer on Nov 17, 2009 10:43 PM EST reply actions 0 recs
Id rather have the eyeballs who spend 45 bucks every month… but then I would just be using my brain.
by mmalogic on Nov 17, 2009 10:48 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Shit yeah
4 million non-paying eyes quarterly, or eager to spend 18-34 year old males multiple times a month? You nailed those demos.
"I’m sorry. I didn’t drink last night, so I’m not funny today."
-Sakuraba
by Blackout612 on Nov 17, 2009 10:57 PM EST up reply actions 2 recs
Didn’t they do some kind of research and figure out that the average household that buys a UFC PPV has between 5-10 people watching it? Or something like that.
Just BE.
by mattman73 on Nov 17, 2009 10:59 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
and how many people were at each television set watching the Strikeforce card?
by mhauer on Nov 17, 2009 11:00 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Well I know at my house 1 person watched the Strikeforce event.
For UFC PPV’s we get together and party in a group of 7 or 8.
Just BE.
by mattman73 on Nov 17, 2009 11:03 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Check the pennysaver and then check the local paper that charges money but has less circulation… guess which one has the premium sponsors? Guess which one has the flea market shit?
by mmalogic on Nov 17, 2009 11:05 PM EST up reply actions 4 recs
rec'd
Agree with mmalogic on this one.
by Michael Hatamoto on Nov 18, 2009 2:30 AM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Both are good options for sponsors.
=)
by MMASuPreMaCy on Nov 17, 2009 11:02 PM EST up reply actions 2 recs
LOL
I reported last night in my fanpost that RVCA and Clinch Gear had been banned from the UFC.
Fighers Only Magazine was also able to confirm what I was reporting earlier today.
So now asking people on Twitter who are actually in the know is considered reporting?
by ufc4 on Nov 17, 2009 11:13 PM EST reply actions 0 recs
Asking reliable sources and then telling other people is basically the definition of reporting, no?
by JRN on Nov 18, 2009 12:06 AM EST up reply actions 1 recs
Saying “I think, but I’m not sure, but this guy said no, but someone else said maybe” isn’t reporting.
by ufc4 on Nov 18, 2009 12:08 AM EST up reply actions 1 recs
Grasping at straws, man. I think you’re mis-reading the statement.
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by Beer Monster on Nov 18, 2009 12:50 AM EST up reply actions 0 recs
I know it hurts you to admit he was right but I have faith you can do it.
Catapultam habeo. Nisi pecuniam omnem mihi dabis, ad caput tuum saxum immane mittam.
by FRANKIE on Nov 18, 2009 12:51 AM EST up reply actions 1 recs
Welcome to the world of reporting. Don’t be mad because you thought I was posting “negative” stuff about the UFC and you were wrong.
by MMASuPreMaCy on Nov 18, 2009 12:54 AM EST up reply actions 0 recs
world of reporting is not gurgling Josh Gross’s and other bloggers nuts until they tell you what they heard and then posting it. That’s called copy and paste without giving credit to the source.
And the fact that you’re on twitter tells me the world will end in 2012.
by mmalogic on Nov 18, 2009 1:19 AM EST up reply actions 1 recs
LOL
You are correct. Reporters get the info when it spontaneously appears in front of them.
by MMASuPreMaCy on Nov 18, 2009 2:10 AM EST up reply actions 1 recs
oh wait...
sup, if you asked a guy on twitter, isn’t it proper etiquette to credit the guy? those “sources” are used to protect the identity of the person your asking, but if a guy posted it on twitter, it’s open to the public, meaning they wouldn’t want/need to be anonymous sources..
by doing what you’re doing, you’re just using the “i got sources” line to take all the credit. But alas, other mma blogs do that also, so it’s not a biggie. I’m not trying to bust your balls, like the others.. I’m just saying..
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by Anton Tabuena on Nov 18, 2009 1:39 AM EST up reply actions 0 recs
That wasn’t my source, though he was also saying the same thing, since I wanted somewhat of a confirmation. My other source said to keep it anonymous.
by MMASuPreMaCy on Nov 18, 2009 2:12 AM EST up reply actions 0 recs
okay (insert real name you don't want people to know) !
:P
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by Anton Tabuena on Nov 18, 2009 2:17 AM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Being criticized around here is nothing new.
=)
by MMASuPreMaCy on Nov 18, 2009 2:24 AM EST up reply actions 0 recs
what?
I wasn’t criticizing dude, don’t get me mixed up with the others.. haha.. I just said if the source was indeed from twitter, then credit it.. you said you had another source, i say okay..
the okay (insert your name) was obviously a joke if you didn’t notice.
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by Anton Tabuena on Nov 18, 2009 2:32 AM EST up reply actions 0 recs
I was MOSTLY talking about the others.
=)
by MMASuPreMaCy on Nov 18, 2009 2:51 AM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Well, you did post something negative about the UFC. That’s inarguable.
That doesn’t mean what you said was inaccurate, though.
...Behold, a pale horse. The man that sat upon it was Wieters, and hell followed with him.
"BJ on the BE" - Kierkegaard
by Brett Jones on Nov 18, 2009 7:40 AM EST up reply actions 0 recs
How was I wrong? I never said it was true or not. If you have a source then fine, report it, don’t go around asking everyone you can contact if it’s true and then not be willing to credit them when they give you the answer you’re looking for.
by ufc4 on Nov 18, 2009 6:58 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
LOL
I asked 2 people, my other source was anonymous.
by MMASuPreMaCy on Nov 18, 2009 7:01 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
That’s fine but you had to go to someone else to get it confirmed right? You said you reported that RVCA was banned but what you really said was:
There is also a strong rumor that the UFC has banned RVCA
So you weren’t reporting it as a fact until someone else told you that it was true, so you need to give them credit for it.
by ufc4 on Nov 18, 2009 7:06 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
The confirmation was from an anonymous source.
by MMASuPreMaCy on Nov 18, 2009 7:21 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Hey
I share that sentiment most of the time reading your posts.
=)
by MMASuPreMaCy on Nov 18, 2009 8:36 PM EST up reply actions 1 recs
Then why didn’t you report it as a fact instead of “a strong rumor”?
by ufc4 on Nov 18, 2009 10:45 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Obviously. I’m just a poster, and I was trying to confirm it as best as I could. =)
by MMASuPreMaCy on Nov 19, 2009 12:07 AM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Oh
and I don’t do 100% reporting. Not my specialty.
=)
by MMASuPreMaCy on Nov 19, 2009 12:08 AM EST up reply actions 1 recs
This made me laugh.
...Behold, a pale horse. The man that sat upon it was Wieters, and hell followed with him.
"BJ on the BE" - Kierkegaard
by Brett Jones on Nov 19, 2009 8:08 AM EST up reply actions 0 recs
You sure love to insinuate it.
Guillotine.
by iiowyn on Nov 19, 2009 11:17 AM EST up reply actions 0 recs
the only issue i have is that..
I reported last night in my fanpost that RVCA and Clinch Gear had been banned from the UFC.
It was a Fanshot! lol. :)
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by Anton Tabuena on Nov 18, 2009 1:33 AM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Other people have reported news with fan posts . . .
by bignerd on Nov 18, 2009 1:34 AM EST up reply actions 0 recs
i don't think you got my point..
he said fanpost, but his earlier post on the topic was a fanshot.
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by Anton Tabuena on Nov 18, 2009 1:40 AM EST up reply actions 0 recs
LOL
Fanpost, Fanshot, yada, yada, yada.
=)
by MMASuPreMaCy on Nov 18, 2009 2:12 AM EST up reply actions 0 recs
there we go! haha :D
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by Anton Tabuena on Nov 18, 2009 2:16 AM EST up reply actions 0 recs
You have a lot more time on your hands then I do MMASuP that’s for sure….lol. Great post!
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by Warhand on Nov 18, 2009 1:29 AM EST reply actions 0 recs
cheers to the Drago shirt. might have to pick that up. that is awesome.
Gatti. Dekkers. Pele. Aoki. Kang. Vanderlei. Basillio. Harry Greb.
by theworldsoldestsport on Nov 18, 2009 12:08 PM EST reply actions 0 recs
UPDATE:
From Josh Gross:
Don’t be surprised if something gets worked out between RVCA and UFC. There are plans for both sides to meet in Las Vegas.
by MMASuPreMaCy on Nov 18, 2009 4:30 PM EST reply actions 0 recs
Makes sense.
...Behold, a pale horse. The man that sat upon it was Wieters, and hell followed with him.
"BJ on the BE" - Kierkegaard
by Brett Jones on Nov 18, 2009 4:31 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
I see Fedor losing a sponser pretty soon
by Riley_96 on Nov 18, 2009 5:58 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
I am pretty sure he wouldn’t have a problem getting another to be featured on CBS.
=)
by MMASuPreMaCy on Nov 18, 2009 6:11 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
LOL, CBS didn’t even show his walkout.
by mmalogic on Nov 18, 2009 6:17 PM EST up reply actions 2 recs
The internet wins again. I am sure CBS will fix that next time. Guess how much RVCA’s sales have increased since the event.
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by MMASuPreMaCy on Nov 18, 2009 6:59 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
I dont need to guess… All I need to know is they’re running back to Zuffa.
by mmalogic on Nov 18, 2009 7:37 PM EST up reply actions 2 recs
It’s a shame because RVCA has the best designed gear shirts and gear out there. Tapout is easily the worst designed and unfortunately they get all the attention. Affliction is bad too but I don’t see as much of it anymore…
by nastyem on Dec 1, 2009 5:24 PM EST reply actions 0 recs














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