GSP vs. Hendo at 185 lbs! (Not News)
by mid.vill.queens on Nov 17, 2009 6:11 PM EST
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PrintDana? Earth to Dana? GSP jumping to 185? Want a big headline and you dont want to blow the load on GSP vs. Anderson SIlva yet, well then here it is. No offence to GSP, Anderson Silva could beat heavyweights, Perhaps we have a battle for the ages between these two. Lets see GSP out wrestle a 2 time Olympian. Not ncaa, or high school champ but on the US olympic squad for two different Olympics. Please Dana, GSP is wiping the floor with welterweights. Dont lose Hendo to strikeforce where he fights jake shields or gegard. GSP vs Hendo is the fight!
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Risk one of your biggest draws losing against one of your lowest draws. Or ask Hendo to risk losing to GSP in his first fight at 185 instead of getting his title shot, or fighting someone that would lead to him getting it.
Seems like a random thought more than a clever one.
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I follow what your saying but silvas first fight at 205 was james irvin, not the champ. I honestly think silva is too much for gsp. Gsp vs hendo is more marketable than any gsp fight vs a welterweight right now. If gsp loses no big deal, he goes back to welterweight. If Hendo loses, no big deal, he fights the loser of vitor v silva or nate. 185 is so thin right now. Plus if GSP loses to hendo, then it wouldnt have been as bad as losing to Anderson SIlva. The sport cant allow GSP to get embarrassed the way Silva can make you look like you got punked.
by mid.vill.queens on Nov 17, 2009 6:30 PM EST up reply actions
Sure, GSP vs Hendo is bigger than most WW fights
But so are a lot of other MW fights, arguably. I just think there are a lot of reasons it doesn’t work. It’s unnecessarily squandering a top challenger. Having top guys fight each other is only smart if one of them has to make ground in the division. Hendo doesn’t have anything to prove to get a shot.
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i hate to tell you this but gsp and dan hederson are both 5 foot 10 inches
they list hendo at 6 foot 1 inch but i walked by him at a live event in vegas(wec carlos condit vs brock larson for the then ww champioship belt at the hard rock hotel in vegas) and he is average in height. that being said henderson would knock the zhit out of him. he had just signed with ufc and was mingling with the fans between fights.
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by wolfmanshowlforever on Nov 17, 2009 11:53 PM EST up reply actions
Sure, GSP vs Hendo is bigger than most WW fights
by dancingChicken on Nov 18, 2009 6:10 AM EST up reply actions
1. Hendo isn’t signed
2. They need main events for upcoming shows, and they won’t be ready.
3. Hendo wants big money that the UFC doesn’t want to spend because they don’t think he’s worth it.
4. When GSP bulks up to MW, it will be harder for him to drop down. And as he said, if he goes up, he likely won’t drop down again so You’ll be covering one hole but youll also be tearing out another one.
5. Risking an GSP loss in an impromptu jump in weight is wrong when in fact your goal is to solve potentially low PPV buys for 2-3 cards is not worth it.. He loses, the UFC loses even more cash than what they would earn in that one ppv card..
6. GSP is already a draw. You don’t need hendo to save a single card. As long as GSP is there, people will tune in.
7. Signing Hendo for huge money, to increase viewership for ONE card won’t save the UFC any money. Put Hardy vs GSP, and you’ll likely have similar results in PPV buys as Dan isn’t really a draw. That would be the logical, non-wreckless move that would still earn them big bucks as everyone loves GSP.
8. I don’t think Dana would read your post even if you use earth to Dana and lots of !!!
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other than spider, GSP vs who at 185?
I appreciate the response, Well planned. This is of course assuming ufc signs dan. I think he would take a little less for this fight. GSP weighs 187 at fight time. He doesnt need to gain that much plus he will never be allowed to just vacate the welterweight title, he will bounce back and forth. Similiar to anderson. Who would you like to see GSP fight at middle weight other than silva?
by mid.vill.queens on Nov 17, 2009 7:20 PM EST reply actions
Dan Hardy at WW is enough thank you.
if GSP didn’t bulk up, he’d be a lotttt smaller than Hendo, and would already be at an even bigger disadvantage. and again, that would be risking too much, as you said, the goal was to save PPVs right?
If they get Hendo, you could put them on 2 separate PPVs already.. they wouldn’t need to make GSP do an impromptu fight at MW which would be very dangerous.
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by Anton Tabuena on Nov 17, 2009 7:30 PM EST up reply actions
I might be in the minority here – but I like this idea. I want to see GSP tested and Hendo is the real deal. I don’t care about risking draws or any of that crap. I’m tired of seeing GSP beat the living sh*t out of supposedly-top contenders for five straight rounds.
you can take off the "supposedly"
just because they’re no match for GSP, doesn’t mean they are the next best WW.. it’s not that WW isn’t stacked, cause it is, it’s just that GSP is head and shoulders above the rest.
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by Anton Tabuena on Nov 17, 2009 7:31 PM EST up reply actions
It’s just semantics. The point is, I am no longer excited to see GSP fight because they are way too one-sided.
If Anthony Johnson steamrolls Kos, (and makes weight) i'd be interested in that..
there are also up and coming UFC guys that could be dangerous in the future.. Daley, even Hazelett.
even if i think it’d be a mismatch, I’d be interested in a fight against shields too.. or Diaz, since he’s having problems with strikeforce anyway.
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by Anton Tabuena on Nov 17, 2009 7:43 PM EST up reply actions
All good points
Diaz, Shields, Rumble, Karo (after a few wins), Stun Gun if he keeps winning, Hazelett if he does too, the Hardy fight, Akiyama if he dropped weight like everyone seems to want him to, Almeida if he can stay healthy enough to demolish some kids— we can’t just write everyone off because GSP is so great. They shouldn’t be robbed of their opportunity to prove they can.
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Honestly, I think Hendo would lose. GSP’s wrestling is as good and his striking is more well-rounded.
His wrestling is better
There is no wrestling in MMA like GSP’s. It’s actually another reason not to do this fight. A borderline LHW who is touted as an unparalleled wrestler getting outwrestled by WW-transplant GSP? That can’t be good.
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GSP may outstike him. GSP may negate his wrestling. But I don’t think he’ll actually out wrestle a 2 time US Olympian who will probably have 10 lbs on him.
by John Nash on Nov 17, 2009 8:39 PM EST via mobile up reply actions
Alves had to have had at least 10 on him
And pedigree doesn’t mean anything when you get old and a guy like GSP doesn’t have a resume to wave around. It’s my opinion that GSP has unparalleled wrestling for MMA.
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GSP has amazing wrestling but I look at his frame and I wonder if he can really bulk up enough without giving up too much speed to wrestle with someone with not just Hendo’s skills but also a big size advantage. Dan’s three inches taller I believe, and going to have 10+ lbs on him. That’s a lot to give up.
by John Nash on Nov 17, 2009 9:24 PM EST via mobile up reply actions
In their fight GSP was 185 – 188 lbs, and Alves 188 – 192. At least that what they said at the press conference.
by dancingChicken on Nov 18, 2009 6:16 AM EST up reply actions
2 time olympian yeah
but Hendo’s never really shown that in the cage/ring. Look at the Jackson fight
GSP v. Hendo
I would say that no one in the world is clamoring to see Georges St. Pierre fight Dan Henderson, but there’s obviously one guy who wants to see it.
Probably just the one, but still. Not that it’s the worst match in the world, but GSP’s foray into the Middleweight division begins, and likely ends, with Anderson Silva. Any match besides that one would be underwhelming.
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I'd be interested in GSP vs Akiyama
in a who-has-more-sex-appeal match
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by Anton Tabuena on Nov 18, 2009 2:29 AM EST up reply actions
That’s a welterweight match if it happens.
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I HOPE Akiyama drops to WW soon..
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by Anton Tabuena on Nov 18, 2009 8:28 PM EST up reply actions
Seeing GSP move up to 185 makes sense, as he obviously cuts a decent amount of weight and is getting bigger, but I don’t know if I want to see him fight Hendo just yet. There are other bigger, possibly stronger MWs he could fight before fighting Hendo or Silva.
I’d like to see if GSP could stop someone like Sonnen or Okami from putting him on his back. If they get him down, what will happen with a bit of GnP? Could GSP out grapple Maia if they go to the ground? If Silva isn’t ready, then could he possibly outstrike Belfort?
I fully believe Silva would demolish GSP, and Hendo would do the same, but the UFC would go crazy marketing either fight as a great challenge to both fighters.
by Michael Hatamoto on Nov 18, 2009 2:37 AM EST up reply actions
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