Rumor: Georges St. Pierre and Dan Hardy Under Consideration for TUF Coaching Gig
by Michael Rome on Nov 15, 2009 6:00 PM EST
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The Telegraph reports that GSP and Dan Hardy are under consideration for a coaching stint on the next season of The Ultimate Fighter.
The telegraph also understands that the UFC may be considering offering coaching places to the pair for the next series of The Ultimate Fighter.
Let me be the first on this website to complain about this. By the time they fought, that would be a year between welterweight title defenses, or more importantly, a year between GSP fights. It's one thing to put off a highly anticipated fight for the purpose of the reality show, but entirely another to delay a fight where the outcome is so obvious.
Georges is already back in training, and was looking to return in early March. We've already seen how delaying a fight for the reality show can turn out to be a disaster, who knows if one of these guys gets injured before July and then it'd be well over a year between GSP fights.
Far be it from me to complain without offering a viable alternative. If Ortiz loses to Griffin, they should do a season with Tito Ortiz and Mark Coleman. They will talk a lot of trash, both guys are good TV characters, and neither one is really relevant at light heavyweight at this point. The ratings will probably be even stronger, and we won't have to spend 7 more months debating a fight very few people are even interested in seeing.
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Je peux regarder un saison de GSP.
Keep firing Assholes!
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by Ubernoober on Nov 15, 2009 6:04 PM EST reply actions 4 recs
Banh wei.
Keep firing Assholes!
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Keep firing Assholes!
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you just changed your flag again didn’t you.
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they should put hughes and renzo as the coaches since they are rumoured to be fighting anyway plus hughes is one of the bigger stars they could get without putting a title on hold
I was thinking Hughes too, not a bad idea.
by ufc4 on Nov 15, 2009 6:16 PM EST via mobile up reply actions
Another season of Hughes quoting bible verses? No thanks.
by grein on Nov 15, 2009 6:17 PM EST up reply actions 7 recs
thats a damn good idea. renzo tells some sick stories of his days in brazil. that guy is straight gangster and would totally piss hughes off.
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Great idea. Let’s put another champion out of commission for 6 months AFTER he returns from his current injury. As if the UFC weren’t having enough trouble filling cards already.
TUF needs a break, I can’t imagine how shallow the talent pool is going to be next season. Either that or it’s going to be washed-up former UFC vets trying for a way back in.
by gzl5000 on Nov 15, 2009 6:05 PM EST reply actions 2 recs
Agree 100%
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by greco-roman airlines on Nov 15, 2009 6:44 PM EST up reply actions
Make Triggs vs Hughes coaches
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by thetakeover on Nov 15, 2009 7:53 PM EST via mobile up reply actions
if they’re gonna hold things up, i’d rather see vitor/marquardt, and then let silva mess around at 205, or fight a re-signed henderson.
i like your idea better. get the public to know both of these fighters.
vitor belfort and nate marquardt. not exactly household name’s but to the people who know these are two top middleweights. the middleweight division is by far the weakest in the ufc too. peace.
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by wolfmanshowlforever on Nov 15, 2009 6:12 PM EST up reply actions
Yes to this idea.
They should never tie up the belt waiting on TUF to air. They should always do TUF with the promise of the winner between the coaches getting a title shot.
Just BE.
If Ortiz loses to Griffin, they should do a season with Tito Ortiz and Mark Coleman.
think of the potential NYBA cameos!!
It would be awesome. Having guest coaches coming in every so often such as Justin McCully, Branden Lee Hinkle, Wes Sims, Kevin Randleman and the NYBA. Ratings gold I tell you.
Those would be the best cameos eva
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by thetakeover on Nov 15, 2009 7:54 PM EST via mobile up reply actions 1 recs
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lmao this surely can’t be true. Nearly all their divisions on hold and they want to do it again for the sake of the show. Damn…
It might be difficult because of their english skills but if anything wouldn’t they put Shogun and Machida in there to get a bit more exposure? In any case, PLEASE stop holding up divisions for this crappy show.
By the way
Am I the only one who expects Hardy would be a shitty coach? He’s a good fighter, but something about him screams “practitioner not teacher” to me.
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by ufc4 on Nov 15, 2009 6:23 PM EST via mobile up reply actions 1 recs
re: necessity for coaching skills… see current season
by woooburn on Nov 15, 2009 6:24 PM EST up reply actions 1 recs
These guys don't really do a whole lot of coaching...
despite what the show would have you believe they’re not in the gym working with the guys for hours on end every day.
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by Brent Brookhouse on Nov 15, 2009 6:53 PM EST up reply actions
BJ Penn and Urijah Faber
That was easy.
by ufc4 on Nov 15, 2009 6:23 PM EST via mobile reply actions
Faber can beat Brown having him face Penn is pointless at this point.
"Frank Mir had a horseshoe up his ass. I told him a year ago. I pulled it out of him and I beat him over the head with it." Brock Lesnar
Did you mean can’t beat Brown? And the idea isn’t because I think he can beat BJ, it’s to introduce him and some other WEC guys to the TUF audience.
by ufc4 on Nov 15, 2009 6:33 PM EST via mobile up reply actions
ya i meant can’t and Why introduce him to the masses by getting humiliated because thats what penn would do.
"Frank Mir had a horseshoe up his ass. I told him a year ago. I pulled it out of him and I beat him over the head with it." Brock Lesnar
That works since neither one is going to be able to get past the guys who beat them. Although I think Aldo is going to beat Brown
"Frank Mir had a horseshoe up his ass. I told him a year ago. I pulled it out of him and I beat him over the head with it." Brock Lesnar
Really?
Torres with a better gameplan has the ability to tool on Bowles. You can bring this up if/when they rematch, I have no doubt that the mullet can win.
Either way he needs to win a fight or two first.
by ufc4 on Nov 15, 2009 6:50 PM EST via mobile up reply actions
Takeya Mizugaki gave Torres all he could handle and Bowles knocked him out. Torres had a good run and is an amazing fighter i just dont see him getting past Bowles. They fight again i see another knockout.
"Frank Mir had a horseshoe up his ass. I told him a year ago. I pulled it out of him and I beat him over the head with it." Brock Lesnar
Of course. I just don’t know who will give him too much trouble. His jiujitsu is too good to be in trouble against Rani. He can do exactly what Cruz did to Benavidez. He already beat Mizugaki when he fought away from his strengths. If he fights smart he wins just about any matchup the WEC can offer him, and the Bowles loss taught him what he needs to fix.
ya dont get knocked the fuck out. id figure he knew that already. Bowles hit hard for a guy at 135. Same with Brown at 145. Power like that at lower weight class’s can take a fighter a long way
"Frank Mir had a horseshoe up his ass. I told him a year ago. I pulled it out of him and I beat him over the head with it." Brock Lesnar
Oh c’mon.
Torres lost one fight in 3 years. Faber went to a decision against Brown with two broken hands. The idea that it’s just impossible that either man will hold the belt again is just silly.
Personally I like Torres v. Faber as TUF coaches myself. The point of the show should be to help the UFC out, not the the other way around. A relatively low ratings season of the show to help intro two new weightclasses makes sense to me.
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Why not co-coaches per team. Brown and Torres on one side versus Faber and Bowles on the other, coaching the best of the Wec feather and bantam wieghts. That way you introduce TUF viewers to the champs and most marketable fighter in each division.
by John Nash on Nov 15, 2009 6:56 PM EST via mobile up reply actions
Lightweights would be great! I’d go for Florian/Sanchez once Penn takes care of Diego.
The whole thing about GSP just reads as if they realized they can make more money from advertising on Spike with massive Kimbo ratings than they can from just using it as a season-long infomercial for their ppv. Using a superstar, effectively putting them on the shelf for a year might be the only way they can hope to get near the 5million viewer mark again. Unless they make Kimbo a coach next season.
No one from Versus is coaching unless things change dramatically. They had to fight Spike to get Mir in as a coach and he’s a damn announcer…
by Jonathan Snowden on Nov 15, 2009 7:02 PM EST up reply actions
I don’t follow. Urijah Faber works for Zuffa, not Versus, right?
by ufc4 on Nov 15, 2009 7:42 PM EST via mobile up reply actions
Well sure, this is all assuming that they are
bringing 135 and 145ers to the UFC.
by ufc4 on Nov 16, 2009 1:46 AM EST via mobile up reply actions
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This is not happening…
After John Fitch wins he should coach against Hardy for a real number one contenders match.
Let the winner of Koschek vs Johnson get the title shot… Koschek is the money fight and the only stylistic match up and personality to sell a credible fight against GSP.
If you cant finish swick after hurting him that many times you have no business in the cage with GSP. Hardy has plenty of talent and potential… I believe he can be the best but he’s not the best option at the moment.
No.
Solely because I’m tired of welterweights needing to run the AKA gauntlet. I don’t want to see “Aw, [Swick/Kos] lost a fight? Ok, daddy Fitch will take care of the bully…”
My delight
last night was Swick losing, causing the AKA boys to either keep calling out Hughes, or man up and fight one another.
Why not ..
Tito and Randy if Tito wins this weekend? HUGE rematch for the #1 contender for Machida/Rua
not a bad idea. except for putting randy on the shelf for so long. not sure he’s got that kinda time at this point.
Beating Vera should put Couture in line for a Title Shot? I don’t think so, especially not after his performance fighting Vera.
Seriously? Isn’t this guy a little old to be fighting so often?
by ufc4 on Nov 15, 2009 6:47 PM EST via mobile up reply actions
maybe hes just trying to run out his contract so he can fight Fedor on CBS before he dies. Its like when bands do a tribute cd of all covers. Its an easy way to get an album off their deal.
Awesome, I’ll be able to make cash cash money on Cain.
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I think it probably went like this:
Dana is walking through the corridors of the M.E.N in a rush to get somewhere.
GA Davies: Dana! Dana! Quick word please?
Dana: Hurry the fuck up
GA: Have you thought about GSP and Dan coaching on TUF?
Dana: Uh, not really, possible I suppose though…
= Telegraph ‘Exclusive’
by An0nymous on Nov 15, 2009 6:41 PM EST reply actions 1 recs
I’m more interested to see actual coaches coaching if they want GSP and Hardy as coaches they should do a Greg Jackson’s MMA vs, Team Rough House. Each team’s fighter’s could make appearances, so “star power” wouldn’t be lacking.
While I pretty much agree with Rome here, let’s play devil’s advocate. A GSP-Hardy coached TUF season would have multiple benefits. Here they are in simple-to-read list form.
1. What is now considered a squash match would become much more interesting after watching GSP’s nice guy routine interact with Hardy’s agressive, shit talking personality.
2. GSP would become that much closer to reaching Lesnar-like drawing power after coaching TUF.
3. Hardy would become a superstar in the UK on par with Bisping, and that’s good for everybody involved.
4. Considering GSP has dominated Fitch, Alves, Koscheck, Hughes, Serra, and Penn in his most recent run, the extended time would allow a dominant challenger to emerge for a title shot. As of right now, there are people who GSP has already beaten and people who don’t see ready to step into the cage with the Canadian. The extended layoff would create time to let the division figure itself out.
but the fight it leads up to would be completely uninteresting. its cooler when you aren’t sure who is gonna take it.
The path to my fixed purpose is laid with iron rails, whereon my soul is grooved to run. Towards thee I roll, thou all-destroying but unconquering BROCKLESNAR; to the last I grapple with thee.
So they are just going to use all of Rashad’s coaching staff again and watch them dominate a different team this time?
TuF should never be for a title fight, especially not one like that. Hardy is going to get a wrestling lesson for 5 rounds like Alves did.
Make the coaching staff Marquardt and Belfort, atleast then it doesnt interfere with GSP, or a title shot, and promotes two interesting fighters and one great contender fight.
The UFC should use TUF to introduce fighters to the people.
They should not tie up established stars.
Having the WEC guys coach a couple of seasons would be a good way to let UFC fans know about them.
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if tito wins this weekend they should make it Randy and Tito as coaches. then it would set up the rematch
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TUF 11: What the hell are they saying?
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by judonerd on Nov 15, 2009 9:20 PM EST reply actions 1 recs
They speak Portuguese on Telemundo?
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by Mike Fagan on Nov 15, 2009 10:43 PM EST up reply actions 2 recs
GSP would be such a waste on this show. He’s already popular and he doesn’t say anything interesting ever. Fantastic television.
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the cook vs mr pink hair. the rematch would set ppv records. lol.
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by wolfmanshowlforever on Nov 16, 2009 12:08 AM EST up reply actions
This is a bad idea. The UFC needs to concentrate on the PPV’s and less on the reality t.v. I’d rather they got 16 international fighters who all speak different languages from one another, subtitle it, and shoot it in black and white with accordion music as the soundtrack, than this. Come to think of it, I love this idea…
by Kwisatz Haderach on Nov 16, 2009 12:59 AM EST reply actions
I’m not all that jazzed about the idea of GSP fighting Dan Hardy let alone devoting an entire season of TUF to it. I’m pretty sure the fight will look erriely similair to the one against Alves where GSP’s opponent attempts futilely to engage on the feet while being taken down to the ground and pounded on repeatedly. Spending months promoting that seems thoroughly wasteful.
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Lesnar vs Carwin!
Its the UFC’s biggest draw and would give them something to do during the layoff. And the shit talking would be amazing. With a whole season of TUF that fight would do 2 million ppvs with out an under card.
thought about that as well… but i think their wives both had kids recently, which probably takes priority. and the whole lesnar illness thing of course
Lesnar vs. Noguera!
Why not? I mean we could call it TUF 11: Infection!
Lesnar vs. Noguera!
Why not? I mean we could call it TUF 11: Infection!
I don’t understand the hard-on UFC still has for holding up a title match for ages because of TUF. Especially since Bisping-Hendo turned out alright. If they still insist on continuing TUF, they should stop insisting on title fights between the coaches. Especially this time around – I don’t think anyone is going to give Hardy a snowball’s chance in hell against GSP. Be kinda hard to build any kind of drama since nobody is going to give the challenger any respect.
Pick a pair of charismatic fighters and have them coach. Ortiz vs Coleman or whoever. Good TV without holding up a title for ages.
by Monday Morning Martial Artist on Nov 16, 2009 2:43 PM EST reply actions
Genius and Stupidity
Genius: Dan Hardy has no name recognition. TUF will allow us a long time to get to know him and either love / hate him. This might also give us a chance to actually believe he has a fighters chance which I don’t actually think he does.
Stupidity: Let’s hold up our best fighter on a reality show when he doesn’t speak well and is too nice for good television? Oh wait, we don’t have anyone that can beat him so this buys us time. Hopefully Dan Hardy will leave the show for some 80’s movie remake where someone had a mowhawk.
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I’ve confirmed that this story is not true. St. Pierre and Hardy are not under consideration for the TUF coaching gig.
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