Is Michael Bisping One of the Best GnP Fighters in the UFC?

by Razzel on Nov 15, 2009 1:49 PM EST Comment 15 comments

The thought of Michael Bisping as a standup fighter has always been a little funny to me. Outside of the weak TUF competition and somebody like Charles McCarthy, when has he ever dominated somebody on the feet in his UFC career? When he fights legit competition, his striking skills outside of his footwoork are nearly useless. Even a mediocre striker like Matt Hammill gave him all he could handle. However, there is cause to use Michael Bising and vicious in the same sentence, and that's when referencing his GnP.

When he gets top position, that's when Bisping finally does something impressive. Not only impressive, but vicious. His GnP is absolutely vicious. He has utilized it against four fighters in Sinosic, Day, Schafer, and now Kang. Between these four fighters, Bisping has faced a good mix of mid-high level wrestling and BJJ, and at no point were any of these fighters able to stifle the onslaught. Not only that, they haven't even been able to survive for a little while. When Bisping gets top position, the beatdown is almost immediate.

The only problem is that Bisping thinks he's a standup fighter, but hopefully after destroying somebody with GnP for the fourth time, he gets the point and adjusts his style accordingly.

What I ask you guys though is am I crazy, or does Bisping have some truly impressive GnP and could be a true force if he builds his style around that? He hasn't been fighting scrubs on the ground, but none of them have had any success preventing the TKO.

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When I was watching the fight I actually thought those shots weren’t doing anything. Guess I was wrong.

by Shatto1 on Nov 15, 2009 4:27 PM EST reply actions 0 recs

And he’s done that in 3 other UFC fights against effective grapplers. I really wonder what he could do if he made that an essential part of his strategy rather than trying popshot and counter on his feet. He could become a real force, or maybe it wouldn’t be as effective when opponents are expecting it.

by Razzel on Nov 15, 2009 4:45 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs

Wow

I couldn’t disagree more with this post. Bisping’s GnP against Kang last night was pathetic. It was sloppy and ineffective.

by Underground Man on Nov 15, 2009 4:32 PM EST reply actions 0 recs

Erm, yeah, so ineffective that he wobbled, bloodied, and TKO’d Kang.

by Razzel on Nov 15, 2009 4:48 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs

Bisping’s GnP was so inept that Kang was able to stand up on two different occasions while Bisping was punching him in the face. All I’m saying is that “One of the Best GnP Fighters in the UFC” (as this post claims Bisping to be) should be able to keep you down with his GnP. I don’t see people just stand up while Lesnar or GSP are punching them in the face.

At the very end of the fight Kang was literally turtled up on the floor offering no defense and Bisping attempts two knees to Kang’s body, the first of which misses and the second of which only grazes. This is the some of the best GnP in the UFC? Please…

by Underground Man on Nov 15, 2009 8:13 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs

Ineffective the same way that Brock’s hammerfists are?

Keep firing Assholes!

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by Ubernoober on Nov 15, 2009 5:37 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs

no, ineffective in the sense that Kang was offering no (or very little) defense for the last 2 minutes of the fight except curling into a fetal position and Bisping was still unable to finish him. Lesnar’s hammerfists get the job done, but I was wondering if Bisping was ever going to be able to finish Kang with those weak ass punches.

by Underground Man on Nov 15, 2009 8:17 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs

if you watch the fight carefully kang's first good strike to bisping's face knocked him down

and when he got up you could tell he was afraid to get hit in the face again. the second round was different. kang has no cardio or heart and bisping got him to the ground and threw enough punches to win the fight. i’ll bet ufc cuts ties with kang. unless they want another wilson gouviea

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by wolfmanshowlforever on Nov 16, 2009 12:04 AM EST up reply actions 0 recs

hahaha

Seriously can’t stop laughing at that comment.

That’s like saying Marius Žaromskis head-kicks are ineffective because he only gets to land them once per fight.

by Barry619 on Nov 15, 2009 5:43 PM EST reply actions 0 recs

your analogy would work if Žaromskis’s head kicks weren’t powerful enough to KO somebody. If Žaromskis landed 5 head kicks in one fight, but none of them did significant damage, then yes, those kicks would be ineffective. Bisping’s GnP isn’t effective just because he took Kang down and hit him a lot, it was ineffective because it took Bisping two minutes to KO an opponent that was in a fetal position.

by Underground Man on Nov 15, 2009 8:24 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs

The hole in your logic is, like you said, he used it against Sinosic, Day, Schafer, and an increasingly unimpressive Kang.

All you can say from these fights is that he has solid BJJ defense

by HighNoon on Nov 15, 2009 7:35 PM EST reply actions 0 recs

^ This.

You wrote off his standup based on the fact that he has never beaten anyone terribly impressive with it, then turn around and trumpet the merits of his ground and pound based on him beating Sinosic, Day, Schafer and a slumping Kang. You can’t have it both ways.

by Steve4192 on Nov 17, 2009 11:15 AM EST up reply actions 0 recs

No...

Because he was comparing them via their respective skill sets. Sinosic, Day, Schafer and Kang all have good BJJ/ground games…. yet he is still able to pound them from top position pretty well… His initial comment is valid, because the fighters he cites in reference to Bisping’s standup, don’t have notable striking or defense on the feet….

I'm like PacMan fightin you silly kids... throw ya Hatton the ring, and get knocked outlike Ricky did.
lol.

by Loot on Nov 18, 2009 8:06 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs