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UFC 105 Predictions: Randy Couture vs Brandon Vera

  UFC 105: November 14, 2009
Manchester Evening News Arena in Manchester, England

Main Bouts:
Randy Couture vs. Brandon Vera  

Luke Thomas: Here's the reality: Couture can't win a striking match and can win a wrestling match. Which one will it be? I'd say it depends more on the aggressor in Couture than the sparring-fighting style of Vera. I think this one is ultra close and I can easily see either man winning, but I have to think Couture can beat an opponent who just doesn't fight with a sense of urgency. Couture via decision.

Kid Nate:There are two questions in this fight: 1) Is Randy Couture finally too old to compete at the elite level? and, 2) Is Brandon Vera going to be able to close the deal and live up to his potential. I'm going to have to go with the odds here. Father Time is inevitably going to beat us all, Randy Couture included. Brandon Vera by TKO.

Brent Brookhouse:  Everything comes down to where the fight takes place.  People greatly overrate Vera's wrestling.  If Randy wants to he can clinch him, take him down and rough him up.  If Couture does decide to play the boxing game like he did with Nogueira he is going to lose.  I just keep looking at their recent fights.  Randy has been fighting Brock Lesnar and Nogueira, Vera has been dragging guys like Reese Andy and Soszynski to decision or leg kicking Mike Patt (who was brought in to be a punching bag for Vera).  I don't think Vera has the mental game or the wrestling to beat Randy, unless Randy decides to play the striking game for any reason other than closing distance.  Randy Couture by decision.

Mike Fagan: Only Brandon Vera can beat himself in this fight.  Couture's smart enough and in good enough shape to appear competitive, but his days beating top flight competition decisively are over.  Brandon Vera by decision.

Eugene Schelfaut: Randy Couture grinds Brandon Vera against the cage for the first round and in the second he frustrates the Vera from on top in half-guard. In the last frame, however, he does both, leading Randy Couture to win by TKO, round 3.

Leland Roling: Randy's wrestling and clinch game should be the key to damaging Vera against the cage. I think Vera is sturdy enough to withstand most of it, and Randy should cruise to a decision victory here. Randy Couture via unanimous decision.  

 

Mike Swick vs. Dan Hardy 

Luke Thomas: Give me Swick's speed, better opposition, better team, and desire to push his career to help him persevere. I think Hardy is incredibly overrated, so he can prove me wrong with a win over Swick, but I just don't see it. Swick via decision.

Kid Nate: Swick will be able to do what Marcus Davis couldn't do: take Dan Hardy down and thoroughly dominate him on the ground. Swick also has the reach and speed to more than hang with Hardy on the feet. Swick by submission, round 3.
 
Brent Brookhouse:  I like Hardy here as I like his striking a little bit more than Swick's.  Obviously Swick may decide to take the strategy of takedowns like against Marcus Davis...but I have a feeling he wants to try to be exciting and "earn" a title shot.  In the middle of an exchange Hardy is going to flip Swick's light switch off.  Dan Hardy by TKO, round 2.

Mike Fagan: For no reason whatsoever, I hate Mike Swick.  So while my head says Swick, I'm going Dan Hardy by TKO, round 1.

Eugene Schelfaut: Hardy will not find it easy to gain momentum during the fight against Swick. You will be able to see the loss in Dan Hardy's eyes before it becomes actual. Mike Swick by submission, round 2.

Leland Roling: I want to pick Dan Hardy, and I'll certainly be rooting for him to pull off the upset. The problem is that Hardy's striking is highly hyped as something that it isn't. Akihiro Gono actually outstruck Hardy for two straight rounds. Swick might not be able to do the same, but I think he can potentially blanket Hardy on the floor. Mike Swick via decision.    

 

Michael Bisping vs. Denis Kang  

Luke Thomas
: As much as I want to pick Kang here, I can't. For a fighter who pushes the action, a poor defensive fighter in Kang just leaves too many holes. Then again, we don't know how that KO from Henderson affected Bisping, so it's a risky play either way. Bisping via TKO, round 2.

Kid Nate: Kang has shown he'll find a way to lose, no matter how much of a skill edge he has in a fight. Until he circled into Dan Henderson's right hand, Bisping had the total winner's attitude. I'm going to guess he'll recapture that form. Bisping by decision.

Brent Brookhouse:  Bisping is better standing.  He fought dumb against Henderson, but he has very solid boxing technique.  He is also very hard to keep on the ground.  I don't see Kang having a very good chance at all here.  Bisping by TKO, round 2.

Mike Fagan: Will Kang have mental diarrhea in the cage again?  As long as he can keep his head straight, he has more avenues to finish.  Kang by TKO, round 2.

Eugene Schelfaut: Of the two, I have less confidence in Denis Kang. Bisping will be solid throughout a fight played out on the feet, but in no way particularly impressive. Maybe the home nation advantage tips the scale. Michael Bisping by TKO, round 3.

Leland Roling: I want to pick Denis Kang, and I will. He's training at American Top Team once again, and his knockout power will be on showcase against Bisping's chin. He'll test Bisping following his devastating knockout loss to Henderson, and he also happens to be well-versed on the floor as well. Denis Kang via TKO, Round 2.  

 

James Wilks vs. Matt Brown  

Luke Thomas: I am going to smash James Wilks. Brown via TKO, round 2.

Kid Nate:Not a fight I can muster up any excitement about. I think Brown will be too physical for Wilks' limited game. Brown by TKO.

Brent Brookhouse:  This is going to be an enjoyable scrap.  People are overlooking Brown's development as a fighter overall because he got into another firefight with Pete Sell.  Matt Brown by TKO, round 2.

Mike Fagan: Brown's not a title contender, but he's always good for a fun fight.  And with fitting nickname and a striking resemblance to the Bloody Elbow fuhrer, I'm going to go Matt Brown by TKO, round 2.

Eugene Schelfaut: Brown grew, a little, on me after the victory over Pete Sell and that alone should be enough for the victory here.  Matt Brown by KO, round 1.

Leland Roling: Tough fight to pick as Wilks has shown an ability to use his reach to strike, but Brown has improved immensely over the last couple of fights. I think he can damage Wilks standing and win this one. Matt Brown via TKO, Round 2.


Ross Pearson vs. Aaron Riley

Luke Thomas: Riley has enough chin and experience to give Pearson problems late in the fight, but he'll have dropped two rounds by then. Pearson by decision.

Kid Nate: Aaron Riley is the epitome of an MMA journeyman. He should eat the undersized Pearson for breakfast. Riley by decision.

Brent Brookhouse:  This feels like a coin flip to me.  Pearson's size is an issue but Riley is always at risk to disappoint.  Aaron Riley by decision.

Mike Fagan: Can we start talking about a TUF curse?  Mac Danzig and Amir Sadalloh have turded it up lately.  Neither recent English champ looks like he'll do much either.  And Pearson looks like he could make 145.  Aaron Riley by decision.

Eugene Schelfaut: Not feeling this one, but I'll go with the TUF 9 winner. Ross Pearson by decision.

Leland Roling: For some strange reason, I have a feeling Riley is going to have his hands full with Ross Pearson. I'm not sure exactly how this will go down, but I think Pearson will use his controlling style to blanket Riley in the clinch and on the floor. Ross Pearson via decision.

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Preliminary Bouts:

Terry Etim vs. Shannon Gugerty

Luke Thomas: Gugerty's talented, but not nearly as polished or battle tested as Etim. Etim, by submission.

Kid Nate:Etim has too much of an advantage on the feet and should be able to fend off Gugerty's submissions after he's taken down. Etim by TKO.

Brent Brookhouse:  Etim isn't out of his depth if it ends up on the ground, Gugerty is out of his depth when it is standing.  Easy call:  Terry Etim by KO, round 1.

Mike Fagan: Anyone else think Etim looks like Paulie Malignaggi?  Terry Etim by exciting kickboxing, round 2.

Eugene Schelfaut: Eventually, Etim will get through with strikes and he has enough defense from bottom position to make me feel secure in that. Terry Etim by TKO, round 1.

Leland Roling: Etim's striking is the real difference maker in this fight. His clinch Muay Thai knees and kickboxing ability should pummel Gugerty, Terry Etim via TKO, Round 1.
  

Paul Taylor vs. John Hathaway

Luke Thomas: A guy as aggressive as Taylor is just bound to make mistakes. Hathaway by submission.

Kid Nate
: Taylor is the more dangerous on his feet. Taylor by TKO.

Brent Brookhouse:  Taylor's experience and power is hard to pick against here.  Paul Taylor by TKO, round 3.

Mike Fagan: America.  Fuck yeah.  Hathaway by decision.

Eugene Schelfaut: I'm thinking Taylor will put Hathaway under early with a flurry, but I'm laying my pride down on John Hathaway who wins by decision, round 3.

Leland Roling: While Taylor holds the edge standing, Hathaway's ground game is far superior to that of Taylor, and Taylor will find himself in some trouble. John Hathaway via decision.

 

Matt Riddle vs. Nick Osipczak  

Luke Thomas: Riddle is going to positively body this kid. Riddle by TKO, round 1.

Kid Nate: Matt Riddle is going to overwhelm Osipczak. Riddle by TKO.

Brent Brookhouse:  If this makes the broadcast somehow I'll be hoping it's a short one.  Nothing is fun about having to type Osipczak over and over during a liveblog.  Matt Riddle is the better fighter and he is a lot to handle.  Matt Riddle by TKO, round 2.

Mike Fagan: Not every Team Rampage fighter has sucked.  Matt Riddle by TKO, round 2.

Eugene Schelfaut: I like when things fall into neat groupings. Three decision wins for Riddle and four first round finishes by Osipczak. I like things like this because it is edgy when I turn against them to make my win. Matthew Riddle by KO, round 1.

Leland Roling: I'll go against the grain and take Nick Osipczak by surprising Sanshou Kung Fu kicks. Nick Osipczak via KO (Head Kick)    

 

Paul Kelly vs. Dennis Siver  

Luke Thomas: Siver's submission prowess will not be enough for the defensive Kelly. Kelly by decision.

Kid Nate: Two fighters who are only UFC-caliber in Europe. Kelly should be able to win this one with aggression. Paul Kelly by TKO.

 Brent Brookhouse:  NBA Europe wasn't any good and this fight won't be either.  Paul Kelly by decision.

Mike Fagan: English fighters suck, but German fighters suck more.  Paul Kelly by decision.

Eugene Schelfaut: Paul Kelly will use the better part of fifteen minutes claiming his, and our, victory from top position. Paul Kelly by decision.

Leland Roling: Paul Kelly will use his size as a lightweight to top control Siver to death. Paul Kelly via decision.

 

Alexander Gustafsson vs. Jared Hamman  

Luke Thomas
: Hamman is too experienced. Hamman by TKO.

Kid Nate: Gustaffson by decision.

Mike Fagan
: Gustafsson has a ton of letters in his name. Gustafsson by smother alphabet decision.

Eugene Schelfaut: Dude has a hound on his chest. Alexander Gustafsson by TKO, round 1.

Leland Roling: Tough, tough fight to call. Hamman's strength of record is solid, but Gustafsson has the lengthy reach and boxing pedigree to be a real menace. I'll go out on a limb and pick Alexander Gustafsson via TKO, Round 2.    

 

Andre Winner vs. Roli Delgado 

Luke Thomas: Delgado has skills but winner is too much of a power puncher and a far better athlete. It's his fight to lose. Winner by decision.

Kid Nate: Delgado by submission.


Brent Brookhouse:  I really enjoyed Winner on TUF so Fagan is wrong.  He is not wrong in his assessment of Delgado.  Andre Winner by TKO, round 1.

Mike Fagan
: I may be the only person who like Winner from the show.  And Roli Delgado sucks.  Andre Winner by decision.

Eugene Schelfaut: I am not good enough with the puns for this. Andre Winner by TKO, round 1.

Leland Roling: Roli Delgado's BJJ black belt that he got in a week isn't helping him beat Winner. Andre Winner via TKO, Round 1.

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by Beer Monster on Nov 13, 2009 7:00 PM EST reply actions  

Winning %

Cannon J: 70.2%
Eugene: 68.4%
Mike Fagan: 62.9%
Kid Nate: 62.9%
Brent B: 62.3%
Luke: 61.8%
Leland: 59.6%
Mike Rome: 59.5%
Nick: 55.9%
Nelson: 54.8%

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by Beer Monster on Nov 13, 2009 7:01 PM EST up reply actions  

Still beautiful.

Alla som inte dansar är våldtäktsmän.

by Eugene Schelfaut on Nov 13, 2009 8:23 PM EST up reply actions  

"Couture's smart enough and in good enough shape to appear competitive, but his days beating top flight competition decisively are over. "

While I don’t agree that’s true, it also presupposes that Vera is “top flight competition.”

Who did he beat at 205 to assume that mantle?

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by The Kittitas Kid on Nov 13, 2009 7:15 PM EST reply actions  

Oh, and Nate?

Vera goes to decision with Reece Andy and Krystof, but finishes Couture?

That is a bold prediction indeed.

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by The Kittitas Kid on Nov 13, 2009 7:20 PM EST up reply actions  

has more to do with Randy's recent outings than Vera's

but I think the do or die impact of being in the cage with a legend will bring out the best in Vera.

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by Kid Nate on Nov 13, 2009 9:12 PM EST up reply actions  

Randy lost to the UFC heavyweight champ and a rejuvenated legend of the sport recently, but if it happens I owe you a coke.

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by The Kittitas Kid on Nov 13, 2009 9:57 PM EST up reply actions  

wassaup in e-berg kittitas man? I think a finish is a realistic outcome beacuse Vera did show stand up excellence in his last fight and Randy can get pretty vunerable on his feet . Probably decision is more likely but I think Randy will be seeing a cow load of leather coming at him.

by naturalist on Nov 14, 2009 12:40 AM EST up reply actions  

I'm not trying to do a troll job here...

but it seems interest in UFC 105 (judging from the low comment traffic) seems to be proportional to the amount of marketing the UFC has put behind this show.

Either our world class mma refractory period is yet to elapse from last weekend or we’re more susceptible to the marketing machine than we like to admit.

by casey manrique on Nov 13, 2009 7:46 PM EST reply actions  

so great! glad you’re finally embracing it luke.

by woooburn on Nov 13, 2009 9:21 PM EST up reply actions  

Haha

I told my brother about this little inside joke earlier today and said there was a pretty good chance it would get mixed in for the editors picks. Lo and behold. Ha…

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by Blackout612 on Nov 13, 2009 9:23 PM EST up reply actions  

I’ve always chided Luke about his mirror image resemblance to Brown, and I would have spit milk out of my nose had I been drinking while reading that. A++++++

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by Mike Fagan on Nov 13, 2009 9:45 PM EST up reply actions  

Well, the resemblence is grossly overplayed

But if you can’t beat them, might as well join them.

by Luke Thomas on Nov 14, 2009 10:28 AM EST up reply actions  

This feels like one of Spike's patented Ultimate Decision Nights

Couture via decision
Swick via KO
Bisping via decision (rooting for Kang)
Wilks via submission
Pearson via really boring decision

Fire Bruce DeHaven.

by SSreporters on Nov 13, 2009 7:55 PM EST reply actions  

I don't get the complaints.

The card should be pretty exciting.

I have:
Vera by TKO
Swick via TKO
Bisping via dec
Brown via TKO
Pearson via dec

by fozo on Nov 13, 2009 8:04 PM EST reply actions  

WAY too many of you picked Bisping

by Meshuggeth on Nov 13, 2009 8:05 PM EST reply actions  

Bisping : 17-2 (losses to Rashad Evans and Dan Henderson)
Kang : 32-11 (losses to Alan Belcher, Mousasi, Akiyama, and others)

Bisping : KOed once, never submitted.
Kang : KO twice, submitted 7 times.

Care to explain why you feel Bisping is a bad pick?

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by mythbuster on Nov 13, 2009 8:11 PM EST up reply actions   1 recs

LOL at you defending Bisping's resume

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by Blackout612 on Nov 13, 2009 8:17 PM EST up reply actions  

Why is it funny?

He has a legitimate resume. I get it…we all have to hate Bisping. But lets not let that get in the way of his accomplishments

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by Brent Brookhouse on Nov 13, 2009 8:20 PM EST up reply actions  

Srsly, Brent?

Last five;

L-Dan Henderson
W-Chris Leben
W-Jason Day
W-Charles McCarthy
L-Rashad Evans

Don’t accuse me of piling on, I don’t have a vendetta against him because he has a shitty personality. If he wins, I’ll say good for you— it’d easily be the biggest win of his career. He’s never beat someone like Kang, admit it or not. This guy hasn’t beat anyone of note outside of Shafer and a controversial decision against Hamill.

So, like I said— LOL at defending Bisping’s resume.

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by Blackout612 on Nov 13, 2009 9:02 PM EST up reply actions  

Oddly enough, I may be the number one Bisping fan on staff and I picked against him.

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by Mike Fagan on Nov 13, 2009 9:45 PM EST up reply actions  

Hahaha

I’ll rec that.

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by Blackout612 on Nov 13, 2009 10:13 PM EST up reply actions  

Yeah, I picked Bisping not because he’s a great fighter (good, but not great), but Kang just can’t seem to win the big ones.

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by themachiavellian on Nov 13, 2009 11:48 PM EST up reply actions  

Kang is great at snatching defeat from the jaws of victory.

A man should never waste an opportunity to keep his mouth shut.

by iiowyn on Nov 14, 2009 5:29 PM EST up reply actions  

lol

"Why am I here? Why does my mind have wings? Why do blue midgets hit me with fish?!" - The Tick

by mythbuster on Nov 14, 2009 11:35 PM EST up reply actions  

One nice thing about this card

is there are no “gimme” fights, judging by predictions. Seems they all could go one way or the other, which is an interesting change :)

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by mythbuster on Nov 13, 2009 8:06 PM EST reply actions  

Just look at the odds...

VERY even fights across the board.

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by Brent Brookhouse on Nov 13, 2009 8:22 PM EST up reply actions  

Yup, it’s nice to see. The card itself may not be stellar, but hopefully the fights themselves will be :)

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by mythbuster on Nov 13, 2009 8:29 PM EST up reply actions  

Also Dennis Siver to win

by Meshuggeth on Nov 13, 2009 8:07 PM EST reply actions  

And Fagan, neither fighter sucks.

by Meshuggeth on Nov 13, 2009 8:07 PM EST up reply actions  

It’s a Jordan Breen meme.

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by Mike Fagan on Nov 13, 2009 9:46 PM EST up reply actions  

I wouldnt call 4 losses in his past 34 fights inconsistant.

by Meshuggeth on Nov 13, 2009 8:09 PM EST reply actions  

What would you call 4 losses in his past 8 fights?

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by Brent Brookhouse on Nov 13, 2009 8:23 PM EST up reply actions  

A nice dependable 50/50 chance of choking.

A man should never waste an opportunity to keep his mouth shut.

by iiowyn on Nov 13, 2009 8:36 PM EST up reply actions  

Facing good fighters.

I mean come one losing to Mousasi, Akiyama, Misaki.

All amazing fighters

by Meshuggeth on Nov 13, 2009 8:59 PM EST up reply actions  

Not to sound like a jerk but I don’t think Akiyama fits the bill as “amazing” and I’m not really willing to say Misaki does either. They’re good fighters…but amazing?

But I was just pointing out that saying 4 losses in his past 34 is a bit misleading when he’s 4-4 in his last 8

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by Brent Brookhouse on Nov 13, 2009 9:12 PM EST up reply actions  

Semantics

I think he’s just suggesting that they’re quality opposition, and that’s for sure. He’s certainly mistake prone and that could cost him tomorrow. But losses to Misaki, Sexyama and Gegard are nothing to be ashamed of.

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by Blackout612 on Nov 13, 2009 9:16 PM EST up reply actions  

Nor are losses to Henderson and Evans…I’m just sayin…

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by Brent Brookhouse on Nov 14, 2009 1:10 AM EST up reply actions  

Wins, Brent

Look at the wins.

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by Blackout612 on Nov 14, 2009 4:19 PM EST up reply actions  

Vera by TKO
Swick by TKO
Denis by decision.
Brown by TKO
Pearson by decision.

I love me some Sexyama!

by pud333 on Nov 13, 2009 8:12 PM EST reply actions  

I will root for Kang (half frenchy), I want to see him at his full potential, but at the same time I think bisping is angry and will come out stronger than ever. I wont bet on this though.
I got a nice risky parlay:
Vera*
Hardy*
Brown
Hardy could get knocked out fast and if vera get caught randy will bring him at the bottom of the sea.

10/24

by spectaa on Nov 13, 2009 8:31 PM EST reply actions  

Luke Thomas: I am going to smash James Wilks. Brown via TKO, round 2.

Nice

I'm like PacMan fightin you silly kids... throw ya Hatton the ring, and get knocked outlike Ricky did.
lol.

by Loot on Nov 13, 2009 9:15 PM EST reply actions  

since anton doesn't make picks...

… can someone tell me who he’s picking in the main event? i haven’t a clue.

by woooburn on Nov 13, 2009 9:22 PM EST reply actions  

He could tell you

Or, I suppose I could.
Muthafucking Brandon “Pride of the Philippines” Vera.

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by Blackout612 on Nov 13, 2009 9:24 PM EST up reply actions  

Based on the predictions, I guess the upset of the night would be a finish in the Riley/Pearson fight.

Most of the fights are fairly well even on this card. Tough picks.

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by a tommy point on Nov 13, 2009 9:56 PM EST reply actions  

English fighters suck, but German fighters suck more.

see: war, each one ever fought in Europe

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by Anthony Pace on Nov 13, 2009 10:12 PM EST reply actions   1 recs

Pearson undersized? Riley’s not exactly struggling to make 155.

by An0nymous on Nov 13, 2009 10:25 PM EST reply actions  

Good shot

I was a bit curious about that, too.

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by Blackout612 on Nov 13, 2009 10:27 PM EST up reply actions  

Yeah, I don’t see how Pearson looks like he could make 145.
I’ve been watching the Pearson line since it came out and it’s shifted quite heavily in his favor. I don’t think he should have been anywhere near +190 when he came out.

by goodbones on Nov 14, 2009 12:04 AM EST up reply actions  

He looks like he bulked up considerably...

or maybe I’m just an idiot. either is a possibility.

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by Brent Brookhouse on Nov 14, 2009 1:11 AM EST up reply actions  

Also, I don’t see how Paul Kelly is “only good enough in Europe”, he’s just turned 25 years old and is 3 and 1 with 3 fights as a vastly undersized welterweight. Granted he hasn’t been fighting world beaters but he’s young and well rounded and holds a good win over Paul Taylor who everyone seems to love. He can be a solid addition to lightweight for years really, never going to trouble for a a title but is only going to improve and will always be a difficult guy to beat.

by An0nymous on Nov 13, 2009 10:30 PM EST reply actions  

(cue first round armbar loss)

by An0nymous on Nov 13, 2009 10:32 PM EST up reply actions  

You mean 9-1?

Once again, I’m totally with you. I think he’s a dangerous striker with a shit-ton of upside. Was a little surprised to see the deep criticism of him.. I think he’s got what it takes to be a threat to a lot of the top 155er’s and possibly even be a contender someday.

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by Blackout612 on Nov 13, 2009 10:34 PM EST up reply actions  

Wait..

Are you talking about his fights since dropping to 155? He’s 1-0.

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by Blackout612 on Nov 13, 2009 10:37 PM EST up reply actions  

Also

Mile Swick.

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by Blackout612 on Nov 13, 2009 10:45 PM EST reply actions  

reason for the swick hate? anybody?

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by judonerd on Nov 14, 2009 2:10 AM EST up reply actions  

I couldn’t tell ya’. I’m actually surprised myself. I’m just a big fan of Hardy. No strong feelings against Swick on my part. I guess that’s the thing about him, he just makes no impression on me whatsoever. Seems like a good guy and all, well-rounded fighter who always finds a way to win, but he just seems like a perpetual journeyman fighter.

by Kwisatz Haderach on Nov 14, 2009 2:27 AM EST up reply actions  

Ha, no it was a knock on Swick’s. Elvis sideburns with a shaved head is just wrong. The King and his pompadour would not approve. Then again, shaving them off and then fighting a guy with a mohawk is just terrible form. As we know, hairstyles make fights…

by Kwisatz Haderach on Nov 16, 2009 12:46 AM EST up reply actions  

Yeah I didn’t understand that either

by StevenGiles on Nov 14, 2009 7:22 AM EST up reply actions  

Certainly one of the tougher cards to call, but somehow I can see a clear winner in each fight.

Vera will get an unimpressive win over Couture, and I’m basing this on Randy’s performance against Nog in the first round. When he got hit by a clean shot, he fell slowly with his hands down by his side. I think Vera can hit him early, and avoid him the rest of the night.

Bisping seemed fairly spunky during the weigh-ins, and while neither fighter has looked impressive in their last few bouts, I just can’t help but see Bisping finding a way to steal the fight.

Swick is possibly one of the easier fights to call, as he outranks Hardy is almost every area. I’ll give Hardy a punchers chance, but I don’t think he’ll be able to land one cleanly on Swick.

I don’t see Riley making it out of this one with his hand raised. I’ll take Pearson with a clear decision, if not a stoppage in the first.

While Wilks has a serviceable ground game, I don’t think he has much when it comes to standing, and this is where he will face Brown who’ll come in ready to knock his block off. Demarques managed to land some clean shots early in their fight, and Wilks’ head just stuck there and took ‘em — luckily for him they weren’t nearly as hard as what Brown will throw. I’ve actually bet on Wilks and I have him in two parlays, but looking back I think this is perhaps the one that will let me down.

Hathwaway, Etim, Riddle, Kelly, Winner all win on the undercard as the favorites.

I’m not sure if anyone has seen Hamman fight, but take a look at his last two bouts with Suganuma and tell me he got lucky the second time. Clearly the guy has very little movement and technique.

by goodbones on Nov 13, 2009 11:59 PM EST reply actions  

the analysis i really want from the pros:

how many non brits are just cans for the hometown heroes to whoop on?

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by judonerd on Nov 14, 2009 2:15 AM EST reply actions  

I don’t think any of the non-brits are cans per se, which makes this card that much more interesting in that the fights are fairly balanced.

by goodbones on Nov 14, 2009 2:18 AM EST up reply actions  

i dont trust dana, but i trust him to be dana… somebody has to be getting thrown to the wolves here.

i couldn’t tell you for sure tho. i know nothing about the mid-tier fighters in mma

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by judonerd on Nov 14, 2009 2:42 AM EST up reply actions  

I don’t think there are any cans on here; all the matches are at least competitive. The closest that any of the British fighters has to a gimmie is Kelly vs. Siver, and even that isn’t an absolute lock.

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by AJB on Nov 14, 2009 6:02 AM EST up reply actions  

vera TKOing couture?

how on earth are so many people predicting this? the only person vera has finished in six fights is mike patt.

by roccotuna on Nov 14, 2009 3:03 AM EST reply actions  

I dont think any Brit on the main card will win.

by Meshuggeth on Nov 14, 2009 11:26 AM EST reply actions  

Quick picks -
Couture via decision
Swick via Swicision
Kang via TKO

by Hardcase on Nov 14, 2009 2:29 PM EST reply actions  

Randy
Swick
Kang
Brown
Pearson
Etim
Taylor
Riddle
Kelly
Gustafsson
Winner

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by Blackout612 on Nov 14, 2009 4:20 PM EST reply actions  

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