Bloody Elbow: An SB Nation Community

Navigation: Jump to content areas:


Sports blogs for fans, by fans.
New Blog: The Boxing Bulletin for Boxing Fans!

Bloody Elbow Judo Chop: Katsunori Kikuno's Standing Crucifix Neck Crank on Eddie Alvarez at DREAM.12

Note: I wrote most of this a couple of weeks back but didn't get a chance to finish, thought I'd go ahead and post since I figure alot of our readers are technique nerds too.

DREAM.12 featured Bellator champ (and #3 ranked lightweight in the world on the USAT/SBN Consensus MMA Rankings) Eddie Alvarez, a fighter who epitomizes the combination of boxing and wrestling that has become a mainstay of MMA. His opponent was the fast-rising Katsunori Kikuno whose success with Kyokushin karate, an eccentric Sanchin dachi stance and use of crescent kicks have made him a cult favorite with those of us who are fascinated with the successful use of "traditional martial art" styles that were long believed to be of extremely limited effectiveness in MMA.

But instead of the clash of contrasting striking styles fans had expected, the fight was decided in the grappling phase of the game. Sure Alvarez scored repeatedly with hard hooks, but he won the fight with an arm triangle and nearly lost it in the first round when he was caught in a rare standing crucifix.

I've done a judo chop on the crucifix neck crank before (not to be confused with the various crucifix positions of jiu jitsu or the position in which Matt Hughes finished B.J. Penn at UFC 63) but that was an instance when it was used on the ground, rather than standing as in Kikuno vs Alvarez.

Many fans watching assumed that Alvarez was in no danger as Kikuno held him in the hold. Alvarez, too, underestimated the danger of the hold, until it was released. Ray Hui scooped me with a write-up he did of the move last week and he wrote up Alvarez' comments at the post fight press conference:

"I originally thought that they were just going to break it, so I kind of just relaxed in there, but the ref just let it go and he kept cranking my neck," Alvarez told the press after the fight. "It didn't feel like it was a move that you would give up to. I just felt uncomfortable. That's all."

However upon release, Alvarez was in obvious discomfort and outright ran away from Kikuno for a momentary breather.

"And I didn't realize until I got out of it that it was stopping my blood flow to my brain I guess and it messed up my footing."

Let's look at some animated gifs in the full entry.

Dream_11_medium

Star-divide

Kikuno-alvarez-1_mediumOn the left we see Kikuno stuffing Alvarez' shot. He was clearly concerned about Alvarez' wrestling prowess and wanted to avoid getting put on his back. Impressively he is able to get double underhooks on Alvarez. He plants his left foot against the cage and uses the leverage to stand. At the same time, he is able to lock his two hands together. With Alvarez head pressed into the center of his chest, Kikuno has now established the crucifix neck crank.

Kikuno-alvarez-2_mediumOn the right -- almost two minutes later -- we see Kikuno locking the hold in and dropping his weight down to put maximum pressure on Alvarez' neck. But then he decides to fire a knee to Alvarez' face. I hate to play Monday morning quarterback, especially since I have no idea what I'm talking about, but it seems to me that if Kikuno had on taking Alvarez to the ground here, he could have gotten a dominant enough position to finish the fight with the neck crank.

Kikuno-alvarez-3_mediumHere on the left we see Alvarez riding out the hold and finally escaping. The cross-face he gets on Kikuno had to help, but I am sure that Kikuno's arms were very tired after cranking the hold for more than two minutes.

GIFs by Chris Nelson. Photo via Sportsnavi.

0 recs  |  Comment 19 comments  |  Add comment |

Story-email Email Printer Print

Comments

Display:

if i live my life without being put in a crucifix neck crank, that will be fine with me.

www.tapology.com | twitter @tapology

by GregS123 on Nov 11, 2009 4:59 PM EST reply actions   0 recs

Would be awesome if you could find a GIF of Eddie staggering around after the release. I was surprised to see him that affected as well.

by jafotinatos on Nov 11, 2009 5:10 PM EST reply actions   0 recs

i’d like to see it too. he ended up throwing odd looking punches after the crucifix. but you gotta give it to Alvarez, guy does not let up.

by pop_gun_war on Nov 11, 2009 5:12 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

I demand a Judo Chop of Shane Del Rosario’s Omaplata finish against Cash Money for the next one.
=)

by MMASuPreMaCy on Nov 11, 2009 5:25 PM EST reply actions   2 recs

2nd'd, rec'd and then some...

Yes, Kid Nate, if you have time that Omoplata seems very Judo Chop worthy…..now THAT was a comeback…..

by NeilLomaxFan on Nov 11, 2009 6:39 PM EST via mobile up reply actions   0 recs

Was that the first omoplata finish in pro MMA history? I’d never seen or heard of one before then.

by JRN on Nov 11, 2009 7:34 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

Gil Castillo def. Raymond Mansfield via rolling omoplata
IFC Warrior Challenge 10, 10/11/00

Fighting Area Control

by capital L on Nov 12, 2009 6:44 AM EST up reply actions   0 recs

working on that one!

Follow me on Twitter @KidNate

by Kid Nate on Nov 11, 2009 8:26 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

That being said, greta GIF’s and write up.

by MMASuPreMaCy on Nov 11, 2009 5:27 PM EST reply actions   0 recs

Rec’d and 2nded the judo chops are what I show people when they ask how I can spend days on forums regarding something they can’t conceive as a sport. Opens a few eyes, and I am allways amazed by the thought put into these segments.

by jvxta on Nov 11, 2009 6:16 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

Any type of neck crack hurts like a bitch. Even a hard guillotine can make your neck hurt for a few days.

Nate – I don’t know the specifics because we aren’t allowed to use cranks when we roll, but I think the optimum position to finish that crank is from the mount. So yeah, firing the knee probably didn’t help.

Anyone please feel free to correct me.

BOOSH

by Farthammer on Nov 11, 2009 6:19 PM EST reply actions   0 recs

You are correct. It’s very difficult to finish from inside guard, and from half guard it’s more effective to use as a transition then to actually submit an opponent. That’s how I’ve been taught at least.

by pdl on Nov 11, 2009 6:49 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

I wish frank shamrock would do these type of in depth analysis during fight breaks instead of what he does now….."key to this fight is “the Jab” … my god could there be any more useless analysis then that?!

by pandaboy99 on Nov 11, 2009 7:32 PM EST reply actions   0 recs

This neck crank has been over discussed. As Alvarez said, it barely had an impact on him painwise and he didn’t aggressively try to get out. His dizziness was more correlative to spinning around in a circle 10 times and trying to walk. Of course you are going to be a little dizzy when someone squeezes your head. The key analysis of the fight was when Alvarez tried hard to get out, he did so with relative ease. He say out there resting while awaiting a break from the ref. When he didn’t get the break, he broke out. Its a 15 minutes, why waster your energy. Alvarez was never in any major danger and after the break, he absolutely dominated, displaying skills that make him one of 25 best pound-for-pound fighters in the world

by aggieheaven on Nov 11, 2009 7:39 PM EST reply actions   1 recs

Most guys are slow to give that opponent credit and when I guy says it didn’t hurt it usually hurt like crap. It didn’t up him our or anything, but the look on his face told me it hurt and it was a counter he didn’t see coming.

I’d be kinda surprised you don’t see that technique more often.

by Limelight on Nov 12, 2009 2:38 AM EST up reply actions   0 recs

I guess you didn’t see how staggered he was after the escape? His head movement was marginalized and his footwork was affected. If Kikuno unloaded on the feet, he could have put Eddie in serious danger. I’m an Alvarez fan and that round made me real nervous. The rest between rounds saved him.

by pdl on Nov 12, 2009 4:23 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

the only problem with your analysis is that Kikuno never unloaded and Alvarez was never seriously in danger. Alvarez was dizzy for about 10 seconds…period. He then proceeded to beat the crap out of Kikuno to close the round and dismantled him in the second. Lets not make up things, Kikuno did nothing in the match but catch that move. He only got the first round because he laid on the move for about 3 minutes and Alvarez made no attempt to break the move. The rest of the match was dominated by Alvarez.

by aggieheaven on Nov 15, 2009 11:52 AM EST up reply actions   0 recs

Good write. I have plan to write strike breakdown about Escudero.vs.Miller at UFC 103.
People who interest strike breakdown can read SKILL MMA’s Fedor vs Alrovski until then.

SKILL MMA Fedor vs Alrovski

by shiroobi on Nov 12, 2009 5:59 AM EST reply actions   0 recs


User Tools

"All men are frauds. The only difference between them is that some admit it. I myself deny it." -- H.L. Mencken
Start posting on Bloody Elbow »

Join SB Nation and dive into communities focused on all your favorite teams.

FanPosts

Community blog posts and discussion.

Recommended FanPosts

Mirkneebaraim640_small
Georges St Pierre vs. Dan Hardy to Headline UFC 109 in February?
Nav-logo-hover_small
UFC 106: Pros Pick Forrest Griffin and Tito Ortiz fights
Weoweoweodotdeviantartdotcom_by_weoweoweo_small
Antonio Rogerio Nogueira: "Rodrigo Will Return to Training in a Few Weeks"
Venum2_small
Painkiller Addiction to Blame for Karo Pulling Out
Weoweoweodotdeviantartdotcom_by_weoweoweo_small
UFC 106 Preview: A Statistical Breakdown of Tito Ortiz vs Forrest Griffin 2

Recent FanPosts

Alvarezavatar_small
Update On SRC x DREAM NYE Event
Small
The REAL Controversy at UFC 106
Small
Fantasy match-making in the UFC Light HW Division
Small
Mixed Martial in South Asia
Small
Some interesting tidbits about WEC from the UFC Fight Club Q & A session (via Sherdog):
Small
Article about Ontario MMA Sanctioning
Images_small
Was "Karo Parisyan vs. Nick Diaz" a cursed fight?
Tailings_small
UFC 106 Pay Per View Prediction: Tito Brings Attention

+ New FanPost All FanPosts >

MMA Rankings

USA Today / SB Nation Consensus MMA Rankings