Dana White Comments on Rinky-Dink Strikeforce and Fedor Out for Four to Six Months
In an article from the LA Times:
Dana White calls Strikeforce's overall ratings Saturday a disappointment -
"CBS would be out of their mind to put that rinky-dink [Strikeforce] . . . on the air again . . . and without that backing, [promoters] won't have the money to pay [Emelianenko]."
"Fedor just got his face smashed in by Brett Rogers. Do you know what Brock or Frank Mir and Cain Velasquez would do to Brett Rogers?" White said. "It's time to bring this guy [Fedor] in, to see Brock Lesnar smash his head."
Scott Coker says Emelianenko is dealing with a fracture and tendon damage in his left thumb, and a fractured nose -
"[The hand injury] could've been from that blow when he had Brett on the mat at the end," Coker said. "We're hearing he could be out for four to six months."
Alistair Overeem will headline a Strikeforce card on Showtime early next year, and he is the favorite to be Emelianenko's next foe, Coker said.
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Another broken hand!
Keep firing Assholes!
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by Ubernoober on Nov 10, 2009 9:06 AM EST reply actions 0 recs
I hate it when Dana gets in this mode.
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by xFenixKnightx on Nov 10, 2009 9:08 AM EST reply actions 14 recs
Srsly
I use to like Dana, but now I find myself getting more and more disgusted with him.
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by mythbuster on Nov 10, 2009 10:26 AM EST up reply actions 1 recs
Dana just comes off as someone who is so easily threatened by competition. Instead of going for the cheap insults, I would have liked to hear Dana say something like: “They put on a good show, but……….Fedor needs to prove himself in the UFC against the best, or Strikeforce needs to work on better production, etc.” I understand that Dana is a promoter and that he is just doing his job, but I would just one time like him to just swerve us and not be Dana.
by chrisbboy82 on Nov 10, 2009 11:02 AM EST up reply actions 0 recs
To be fair...
Dana has said all of that in the past.
by Razreshat on Nov 10, 2009 12:14 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Me too. Dana just doesn’t know when to keep his mouth shut sometimes.
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by pud333 on Nov 10, 2009 12:59 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Dana White must have an account at BE, because he sounds like a few people here.
“Fedor just got his face smashed in by Brett Rogers. Do you know what Brock or Frank Mir and Cain Velasquez would do to Brett Rogers?”
Frank: Well I’m pretty sure Frank would get mangled like he did against Ian Freeman, Pe de Pano and Vera.
Cain: Cain’s got freaking pillow fists for starters and lets himself get hit way too much. I could see his smothering wrestling being a big factor, but given that he’s not that “giant” compared to some of the guys…I’d be interested to see that fight though.
Brock: Brock is Brock and I think I’d like to see how he does against Carwin before I crown him king of the world quite yet. He could very well be the guy that crushes the Fedor reign, but beating a 46yr old Couture, tough but way over the hill Herring (people were really that impressed he beat a guy that Jake O’Brien shutout?) and Frank Mir (my personal choice for world’s most overrated fighter) – is not the best evidence of this.
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by The_Gaijin on Nov 10, 2009 9:10 AM EST reply actions 7 recs
FML - and I just realized he's talking abou what they'd do to Brett Rogers, not Fedor.
So that whole point is moot…where’s my coffee.
Reading FAIL.
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by The_Gaijin on Nov 10, 2009 9:11 AM EST up reply actions 3 recs
NO, if he was on bloodyelbow he would be hugging Fedor’s sackage lol
by DJ Soma on Nov 10, 2009 9:29 AM EST up reply actions 0 recs
hugging Fedor’s sackage
Duck!!
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by The_Gaijin on Nov 10, 2009 9:44 AM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Whenever thoe topic of Fedor comes up it gets like a religious thing around here. Both sides are “right” and are heavily entrenched.
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by Ubernoober on Nov 10, 2009 10:02 AM EST up reply actions 0 recs
YOU SHUT UP DONT TALK BAD ABOUT FEDOR I LUV HIM I AM NOT ENTRENCHED
BOOSH
by Farthammer on Nov 10, 2009 10:40 AM EST up reply actions 0 recs
FEDOR SUX
BROCK WUD KILLL HIM AND EAT HIS FACE!!11
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by mythbuster on Nov 10, 2009 10:44 AM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Last weekend I heard the best heavyweight in the history of the world was fighting...
so I called Comcast to order the pay-per-view but the lady said there was no UFC. What gives?
by casey manrique on Nov 10, 2009 11:24 AM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Cain
gets TKFO’ed by either Fedor or Rogers.
Mir tries to stand up because he thinks hes an elite kick boxer after beating Nog and gets TKFO’ed (which I think may happen in the Congo fight). He isnt going to sub Fedor and Rogers showed a decent guard and the ability to get back on his feet. Rogers is stronger than Mir.
Brock would face smash Rogers, though I would give Rogers more of a chance than Mir had. Fedor would beat Brock by arm bar.
by ryanwk628 on Nov 10, 2009 10:29 AM EST up reply actions 0 recs
somebody who gasses after one round has no chance in the UFC.
by mmalogic on Nov 10, 2009 10:56 AM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Why do you think he gassed?
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by mikser on Nov 10, 2009 11:05 AM EST up reply actions 0 recs
I watched the fight.
if you do any type of advanced training you can tell just by the breathing patterns and movement. You can show that tape to any high level strength and conditioning coach and they’ll tell you exactly when he was done.
Elite Fighters at this level don’t go from 100% down to 40% in one round… they dont even go down to 70% in five rounds.
This was “TUF” quality conditioning and had no business being involved in this level of competition.
by mmalogic on Nov 10, 2009 12:08 PM EST up reply actions 1 recs
He looking liked that against Abongo. It is probably in his best interest if he switch to an elite camp or participate in this strength and conditioning program in his neck of the woods.
by The Bronzeville Bully on Nov 10, 2009 1:17 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Check Frank Mir’s breathing pattern in the Nog fight… Check his Breathing pattern in the Brock Fight. Cardio wise he was perfectly fine.
if you’re talking about wes sims or one of his earlier fights? that’s not relavent to the discussion as we’re talking about TODAY’S level of elite.
by mmalogic on Nov 10, 2009 1:45 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Really? I couldn’t even see Mir beneath Lesnar to judge how elite his breathing was.
by nottheface on Nov 10, 2009 3:04 PM EST via mobile up reply actions 1 recs
I asked because I watched the fight a few times (frame-by-frame with every important part of the bout) and I didn’t see gassing. One time in the first round he didn’t go up immediately, but there are many good reasons why he didn’t want to do that. The time people are usually referring to as “he was so gassed that he put his hands on the hips!” shortly before the final blow, was actually not gassing at all – Brett was simply fixing his shorts.
P.S. I have been training different martial arts (like, uhm, kickboxing) for almost 10 years now.
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by mikser on Nov 10, 2009 1:44 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Yeah, I didn’t see that.
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by Leland Roling on Nov 10, 2009 12:05 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
I'm not convinced Fedor could get to gaurd
Brocks, half guard hammerfist approach is pretty innovative and devastating. I think Fedor’s better chance is a massive strike on the feet. Fedor has much more devastating striking than MIr and Mir put Brock in serious danger.
by SES 84 on Nov 10, 2009 12:09 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
I agree with the half-guard hammerfist approach. I think Brock would be able to pin Fedor down and just pound him out. We saw what Rogers did to Fedor when he got the GnP on him in the first round. I don’t think a wrestler like Brock’s caliber will lose position. The thing Brock does very well is position and top control. He’s learning more and more every day, and he effectively nullified Mir’s BJJ, and Mir, as much of a blowhard he can be, has some devastating talent on the ground. Also, Rogers was able to power out of Fedor’s sub attempts. I feel Brock would be able to do the same thing. Fedor is better off trying to lay an overhand right on Brock, which shouldn’t be hard with Fedor’s accuracy and Brock’s giant-sized head.
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by pud333 on Nov 10, 2009 1:06 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Serious danger?
I don’t think Brock was really ever in much trouble. And if he was he sure knows how to take it to a place where he won’t be.
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by The_Gaijin on Nov 10, 2009 1:31 PM EST up reply actions 1 recs
Agreed.
Mir rang his bell, but he didn’t even come close to putting him in serious danger.
by Steve4192 on Nov 10, 2009 2:11 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
He wasnt in trouble or hurt… he was just confused/uncomfortable so he took him down.
Fedor would tool Brock, Carwin and Cain on the feet… but it’s alot easier to defend his overhand right than it will be for fedor to defend their takedowns.
He wouldnt be able to stop one of their takedowns. The fight will be dictated with Fedor on his back and Brock on top. If Fedor can submit brock before brock pounds his face into the canvas he’ll win… If not Fedor will lose.
by mmalogic on Nov 10, 2009 2:31 PM EST up reply actions 1 recs
Fedor will get into trouble at some point when he shatters his hand mid-fight. Probably too late now to clean up his punching technique.
Dana didn’t need to say anything and should have let it be. I do agree with him regarding what Brock/Cain would do to Rogers, but not really Mir.
AO v Fedor would please me greatly, as my favourite Fedor fight is against Cro-Cop who was also a K-1 star.
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by Well Read Idiot on Nov 10, 2009 9:12 AM EST reply actions 0 recs
ALSO...
Fedor’s Twitter:
The UFC contacted us again….
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by Leland Roling on Nov 10, 2009 9:12 AM EST reply actions 0 recs
Fedor has a twitter?
Wow.
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by Well Read Idiot on Nov 10, 2009 9:13 AM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Anyone want to take bets as to whether Fedor is actually the guy making the updates?
My bet is that it is actually Jerry Millen.
by Steve4192 on Nov 10, 2009 9:19 AM EST up reply actions 0 recs
@femelianenko
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by Leland Roling on Nov 10, 2009 9:20 AM EST up reply actions 0 recs
@femelianenko is fake, Fedor’s not on Twitter.
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by kriskarkoski on Nov 10, 2009 9:28 AM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Fedor was texting the whole time at the press conference. I was shocked. I wanted to believe he wore a brown robe, lived in a monastery, and only came out to eat ice cream and fight bears. This was throwing me for a loop.
by JonathanSnowden on Nov 10, 2009 9:41 AM EST up reply actions 1 recs
lol!!!
Yeah, texting doesn’t seem to fit his aura much, does it? :)
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by mythbuster on Nov 10, 2009 10:29 AM EST up reply actions 0 recs
LOL… I never said it was legit.
I always figured it some was Fedor fanboy.
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by Leland Roling on Nov 10, 2009 9:45 AM EST up reply actions 0 recs
“It’s time to bring this guy [Fedor] in, to see Brock Lesnar smash his head.”
Agreed.
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by pitbull187 on Nov 10, 2009 9:17 AM EST reply actions 3 recs
Wait, Brock still fights for the UFC?
Are we sure?
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by jemaleddin on Nov 10, 2009 10:18 AM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Yeah, last I heard, he was bored to shit. :)
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by pud333 on Nov 10, 2009 1:08 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Bored enough to move on?
As the weeks of health rumors go by, I’m wondering what the odds of him making it back in the cage are…
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by jemaleddin on Nov 10, 2009 1:10 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
I dunno. I guess we’ll see in the next few months…
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by pud333 on Nov 10, 2009 1:12 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Then they should offer him what he wants. The ‘rinky-dinky’ Strikeforce managed to do it.
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by mythbuster on Nov 10, 2009 10:30 AM EST up reply actions 0 recs
A big piece of a small pie
…and a big piece of a HUGE pie are not the same things.
And while M-1 claims that they bring a bunch of international promotion to the table, the UFC seems to be doing that themselves.
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by jemaleddin on Nov 10, 2009 10:57 AM EST up reply actions 1 recs
If they want him, they know how to get him.
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by mythbuster on Nov 10, 2009 11:43 AM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Give them Dana's left nut?
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by jemaleddin on Nov 10, 2009 1:10 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Why not?
How much did Lesnar get for his loss to Mir?
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by mythbuster on Nov 10, 2009 3:04 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
a lot less than half the revenue of a card.
by Phildo on Nov 10, 2009 3:07 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
The UFC is not going to give co promotion. This is why Fedor will probably never fight in the UFC. The only way I could see this ever happening, is if M-1 gets desperate for cash and gives up the co promotion angle. Strikeforce gave M-1 what they wanted because they had to. The UFC doesn’t have to get Fedor. The organization will thrive without him. It’s just because Dana and co. are such huge fanboys themselves, that they got a little too enthusiastic with their offer. Frankly, I think they’re better off not dealing with M-1’s BS.
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by pud333 on Nov 10, 2009 1:12 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
I’m not entirely convinced of that. M-1 is pretty worthless on a lot of fronts but they can bring in a television deal that covers all of Russia, which would be huge exposure for the UFC in that market.
The Fertittas are smart business men and if they saw it advantageous in a certain growing market, I could see them doing it. Don’t believe Dana’s absolutes… he’s not paid to have a spine and would happily reverse direction on 99% of what he says.
by bleve_ on Nov 10, 2009 1:23 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
If the stuff M1 could bring to the table was worth that much they wouldn’t be looking to copromote at all. They’d just sign top HWs on their own to go fight Fedor on M1 only branded shows.
by Phildo on Nov 10, 2009 1:25 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
That doesn’t even make sense. There’s huge market potential in North America for M-1 and possibly huge market potential for the UFC in Russia.
Say what you want about M-1 but the collaboration with SF isn’t exactly looking as bad as most were predicting. I think there’s a way to co-promote that could be advantageous for the UFC in the Eastern European market.
by bleve_ on Nov 10, 2009 1:37 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
It would be helpful, but it wouldn’t be worth half of what the UFC does on their own, and that’s the problem.
I wouldn’t comment too much on the success of the SF collaboration because zero details have been released.
by Phildo on Nov 10, 2009 1:41 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
LOL..
Fedor “does not have a Twitter account”.
Per Strikeforce exec..
We quickly got in touch with Strikeforce executive Mike Afromowitz, who confirmed to us that the rumors were indeed false.
"Fedor doesn’t have a Twitter account. His health is fine," Afromowitz stated. "Must be somebody playing games.
FAIL…
8-29-09
Keith Jardine is now known as "The Dean of Antihistamine" because he is always sleeping early in fights..
by MMAuthority on Nov 10, 2009 9:25 AM EST reply actions 0 recs
I need to say..
This is in regards to someone posting as Fedor on Twitter regarding a rumor he had the Swine Flu.. Fedor does have the injuries listed.. But does not have a Twitter account.
8-29-09
Keith Jardine is now known as "The Dean of Antihistamine" because he is always sleeping early in fights..
by MMAuthority on Nov 10, 2009 9:26 AM EST up reply actions 0 recs
i traced his twitter acount it comes back to one man….

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by pitbull187 on Nov 10, 2009 9:27 AM EST up reply actions 0 recs
We all know it’s Vadim.
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by Leland Roling on Nov 10, 2009 9:46 AM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Gary Millen.
A man should never waste an opportunity to keep his mouth shut.
by iiowyn on Nov 10, 2009 4:14 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
"We're hearing he could be out for four to six months."
was anyone actually expecting him to fight sooner than that, even without an injury? would be great if he did, but i’m not holding my breath.
by woooburn on Nov 10, 2009 9:40 AM EST reply actions 0 recs
lol
I was thinking the same. How many fighters come back and fight again before six months?
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by mythbuster on Nov 10, 2009 10:31 AM EST up reply actions 0 recs
“Femalianenko” doesn’t sound really plausible, but you never know.
10/24
by spectaa on Nov 10, 2009 9:48 AM EST reply actions 0 recs
At least we dont have to hear about this werdum/fedor nonsense…
If Strikeforce can’t set that overeem fight up it’s gonna be sad.
by mmalogic on Nov 10, 2009 9:50 AM EST reply actions 0 recs
…I love Dana’s attitude…he is such a hater it’s unreal…If Strikeforce can manage to put on more great shows like this Dana’s head is going to explode.
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by WeaponElDeem on Nov 10, 2009 9:52 AM EST reply actions 0 recs

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by Leland Roling on Nov 10, 2009 10:03 AM EST up reply actions 9 recs
..love the strut.
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by WeaponElDeem on Nov 10, 2009 10:16 AM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Guess this is gonna be posted in every Fedor post from now on… meh.
by grein on Nov 10, 2009 10:21 AM EST up reply actions 0 recs
I’m not a Dana hater, and I understand what he’s supposed to do.
That said, I really think it would have been more effective for him, as a promoter of the UFC, to take the higher road here and simply acknowledge that the Strikeforce show was a nice show, a nice card, some good fights, on network t.v. He could point out that Strikeforce simply does not have the depth on its roster to provide compelling fights on t.v. on a regular basis like the UFC does, note that the UFC has a lot of guys who could provide a variety of more difficult challenges to Fedor than anyone in Strikeforce, etc.
It seems to me that at some point people would look at that, agree with the substance of what he’s saying, and take it more seriously than the immediate rant that he tends to provide too often. Maybe I’m wrong, but that’s my sense from the people I talk to.
by Kierkegaard on Nov 10, 2009 9:57 AM EST reply actions 0 recs
I wish Dana would tell us about that 3rd November card he was planning
And that network TV deal.
Fire Bruce DeHaven.
by SSreporters on Nov 10, 2009 10:08 AM EST up reply actions 2 recs
Dana is trying to get out in front before the overrun ratings come out. Plant the seed in everyone’s head that the numbers that came out which didn’t include the Fedor fight are the full ratings and go from there. Once people believe something as fact it’s pretty hard to get them to change that in their head.
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by Brent Brookhouse on Nov 10, 2009 10:10 AM EST reply actions 0 recs
…I wonder if he takes the MMA community to be suckers…what your saying is completely true…Dana is just going about it the wrong way, he seems really desperate to me.
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by WeaponElDeem on Nov 10, 2009 10:14 AM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Why is he desperate?
This has been his MO since the death of Pride, and it’s been working.
It’s Dana being Dana
by Phildo on Nov 10, 2009 10:16 AM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Yeah, your right it just seems more sleezy than normal…I don’t know why
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by WeaponElDeem on Nov 10, 2009 10:16 AM EST up reply actions 0 recs
This is less sleezy, he’s not ranting on his own. He was asked a question, he gave an answer. And if I’m reading my brackets correctly he only used one “shit,” this is very low key for Dana F’n White.
by Phildo on Nov 10, 2009 10:18 AM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Dana's a business man, he has to talk like this.
As annoying as it is it does make Strikeforce/Fedor look less credible especially to non-hardcore fans.
by Ilias on Nov 10, 2009 10:19 AM EST up reply actions 0 recs
For sure…but I think that’s why it feels more sleezy than normal, he should give credit where credit is due. The event was really good, better than a few recent UFC events. It’s better for the overall MMA community if Strikeforce continues to do well (free fights, better exposure,new talent), just not for the UFC.
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by WeaponElDeem on Nov 10, 2009 10:27 AM EST up reply actions 0 recs
well it also hurts ZUffa that the best fighter in the sport came in last place in the timeslot… against reruns.
by mmalogic on Nov 10, 2009 11:00 AM EST up reply actions 0 recs
We still don’t know what “place” he came in since the overruns haven’t come out yet…
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by The_Gaijin on Nov 10, 2009 11:10 AM EST up reply actions 0 recs
And what exactly will the overruns tell us?
How many people decided to watch Fedor fight after the fight was supposed to be over?
by Phildo on Nov 10, 2009 11:13 AM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Ummm…you’ve heard of a remote control? People have these new fangled devices that allow them to flip between hundreds of channels at their disposal…when they see that something isn’t on yet that they want to watch, they change to something else – and then flip back when it’s on.
How did viewers know to tune into Shamrock vs. Ortiz and skip the Hamill vs. Kendal Grove? (the show got a 3.1 rating overall and a 5.7 rating for the Ortiz-Shamrock segment)
How did viewers know to tune in for Kimbo vs. James Thompson? (the show overall got a 4.85, the main event got a 6.51 – which iirc was completely in the overruns).
You think, maybe, just maybe they might have tuned in to see Miller-Shields in the ground embrace at 10:45-11:00 and said, “oh the main event’s not on yet – that’s the fight I want to see. I’ll change it back when it is…”?
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by The_Gaijin on Nov 10, 2009 11:21 AM EST up reply actions 0 recs
http://www.bloodyelbow.com/2009/11/10/1124851/strikeforces-fedor-emelianenko-vs
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by The_Gaijin on Nov 10, 2009 3:18 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
The event was really good, better than a few recent UFC events.
I am hearing a lot of people say the exact same thing and not trying to pick on you, but I’m curious which events these were and what exactly made them better?
I’m going to assume that we are going to not take production value or commentating into consideration for this comparison because like it or not, UFC has the best production and “better” commentating. I think we all have our beefs with Rogan and Goldberg, but they are better than Gus and Mauro. Strikeforce completely screwed a couple of guys out of their fight because of poor timing and put them in a little predicament with their sponsors as well, which I can’t remember the UFC doing in any recent memory. I could go on…
I know people want to think Strikeforce did a better job than they actually did because they want the UFC to have a real honest to goodness competitor. I enjoyed the fights on Saturday, but it was obvious we were dealing with an organization that still has a LOT of kinks to get out.
Remember in elementary school when the teacher would put stickers on your homework letting you know how well you did? “Nice job!” “Great work!” I’d give Strikeforce a “Nice try!” sticker.
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by funnytiger on Nov 10, 2009 11:08 AM EST up reply actions 1 recs
I know people want to thinkStrikeforceBrett Rogers did a better job than they actually did because they want to believe the UFC has areal honest to goodness competitorthe best, most unstoppable heavyweight in mma.
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by The_Gaijin on Nov 10, 2009 11:13 AM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Um...
I’m a little confused as to what you’re trying to say here… comment FAIL, lol
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by funnytiger on Nov 10, 2009 11:18 AM EST up reply actions 0 recs
It's not a jab at you...
I was totally agreeing with you. Just pointing out that people will skew things to see them the way they want to see them. People WANT Strikeforce to do a better job, because they WANT to see the UFC have a competitor.
People WANT to tell themselves Rogers smashed around Fedor, because the WANT to tell themselves this proves that BROCKLESNAR can hulk smash Fedor.
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by The_Gaijin on Nov 10, 2009 11:24 AM EST up reply actions 0 recs
I didn't think it was a jab at me!
I just had a hard time figuring out what you were trying to say, lol.
I actually kind of think BROCKLESNAR has the best chance of giving Fedor his first legitimate “L” and after seeing what Rogers did in their fight, I think it only solidified that argument.
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by funnytiger on Nov 10, 2009 11:39 AM EST up reply actions 0 recs
WRONG!
if BROCKLESNER decides to stand ….KO. we all know he will try to take this on the ground and do what he did to Mir…..lol no he will get caught with a sub. IMO Bret had a better chance then Lesner. atleast he was packing a punch, and he managed not to go to Fedor’s Ground game. and get subbed. IF Brock thinks he will KO Fedor. LMAO at that. if he decides to LNP …. yeah we all know how that would end.
by OnewayTiket on Nov 10, 2009 1:15 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Let me guess
Fedor fan?
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by funnytiger on Nov 10, 2009 1:35 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Brock hits HARD, like really HARD. And he has an insane reach. It’s not improbable at all…if he sticks to a solid jab with a follow up, he could at least land some leather on a notoriously paper-thin skinned fighter, who now has had his nose broken (in my experience, break it once, it will break again and again). As for the ground – well he’s a serious monster, so if anyone could control and pound Fedor (a smaller HW) I’d put my eggs in his basket (no homo).
Brock does have a very real chance of getting a definitive “W” against Fedor – probably the best of the HW’s UFC and elsewhere.
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by The_Gaijin on Nov 10, 2009 1:35 PM EST up reply actions 1 recs
Yeah I did a pretty poor job of linking those two thoughts together.
See my above posting FAIL at the start of the thread to give you an idea of how sharp I am today =S
I bet my clients would love to know that! hahaha
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by The_Gaijin on Nov 10, 2009 1:32 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
..I’ll get tore to shreds…but 101,102,103,UFN…Sure there was some great fights Penn/Florian, amazing Randy/Nog , and some sick KO’s but for sheer entertainment throughout the televised parts of the event I thought Strikeforce was better than these three cards and I was at 103. I just think the fights were better.It might be because it was the last event I saw..and it is really fresh in memory..IDK
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by WeaponElDeem on Nov 10, 2009 4:12 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
I'm going to say it is your latter thought
Because UFC 102 was by far better than this Strikeforce card, IMO. Randy and Nog’s fight was absolutely one of the best HW fights I’ve seen. Sure, Fedor TKOing Rogers was impressive, and I was thoroughly impressed with Rogers performance, but we weren’t really shocked by the outcome. We all knew Fedor had a better than probably chance of winning. Most of us were pretty surprised at how well Rogers did, but Couture and Big Nog are proven HWs that went the distance and didn’t slow down one bit.
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by funnytiger on Nov 11, 2009 12:30 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
the overrun is also a seed somebody is planting… counting the people tuning in for their local news is just more spin.
It only matters in the context of: “x number of people saw Fedor fight” which is true and valid… but if you want to know the real number this special GENERATED (which CBS knows) you look at each frame of the ACTUAL time slot.
CBS and Advertisers purge the usual viewers by demo in the overrun to get the real number which isn’t mentioned in the press releases.
by mmalogic on Nov 10, 2009 10:19 AM EST up reply actions 1 recs
A CBS spokesman said no decision has been made on whether the network would telecast another Strikeforce card
When a first run special loses 2.5 million usual viewers (which is produced by shitty reruns) and comes in last place in the time slot It’s a hard pill to swallow if you’re a network exec.
With the demo gains If they would have simply broken a 5m average it would have been enough to get to the next show.
I think Scotty’s gonna have to put together an even better package for CBS to revisit this.
Mike Rome was right, Gina’s the winner. Her value has just shot up to around 500k per fight.
by mmalogic on Nov 10, 2009 10:10 AM EST reply actions 1 recs
What I want to know is why isn't the UFC signing the likes of Barnett (risky I know) but still...
Also Bobby Lashley too. Because at this rate Fedor will not need to sign for the UFC. There’s plenty of ‘fights’ for him outseide the UFC. Barnett, Lashley, Overeem and Werdum for starters. All of those fighters for the exception are arguably below the caliber of the UFC’s elite, however, are still legitimate fights.
Why are the UFC sleepin on these free agents?
by Ilias on Nov 10, 2009 10:17 AM EST reply actions 0 recs
Barnett can’t pass a drug test and Lashley is not close to a credible fight.
by Phildo on Nov 10, 2009 10:19 AM EST up reply actions 0 recs
not at the moment but in 2 or 3 fights time you never know. And I’m sure Barnett could pass a drug test if he stopped juicing!
by Ilias on Nov 10, 2009 10:21 AM EST up reply actions 0 recs
That is a very big if, too big for the UFC to care about.
by Phildo on Nov 10, 2009 10:22 AM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Maybe the UFC should care because their divisions aren’t as deep as they think.
Welterweight division is f#!@ed. Same for the middleweight division. And the Light heavyweight division was once a shark tank, look at it now. Heavy weight division isn’t great either.
by Ilias on Nov 10, 2009 10:26 AM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Are you serious?
Those divisions are STILL shark tanks, just one shark is a little nastier than the others.
A champion is a champion for a reason, doesn’t mean those beneath them are suddenly sub-par fighters.
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by Well Read Idiot on Nov 10, 2009 10:34 AM EST up reply actions 4 recs
Than you’re drunk, the UFC has more depth than everyone else combined, in every division but LW.
by Phildo on Nov 10, 2009 12:15 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
HW is just as weak as LW. Perhaps not at the very top but once you get rid of Lesnar and Nog the division looks very subpar.
When/if Mir and Carwin lose their respected fights, then it may start looking like the MW division when Franklin was in it.
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by Pennywise on Nov 10, 2009 12:26 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
The difference between HW and LW is that there aren’t as many good HWs floating around outside of the division.
Dream, Bellator, SF all have a few top LWs and lots of top prospects. With HW there’s a handful of top fighters, but UFC has tons of prosepects
by Phildo on Nov 10, 2009 12:28 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
The problem with the HW prospects is that it’s going to be awhile before than can compete with the few higher ups, with the LW division they still have a lot of nice match ups to come.
Overtime the HW division may become better because of the prospects but over the next few years the LW division should still be better.
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by Pennywise on Nov 10, 2009 12:52 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
That’s true, but it doesn’t change my point about the UFC’s divisions. Their HW division is still the best one out there.
by Phildo on Nov 10, 2009 12:59 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Great point, you’ve convinced me that i was wrong.
by Phildo on Nov 10, 2009 1:26 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
lol OHHH NOOO brother
i know ur wrong. im just clowning you. all this UFC nutthuging makes me crack up. i love when they crown a Dude who is 4 and 1 as best HW. looool what a joke.
by OnewayTiket on Nov 10, 2009 1:29 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
You say that like he didn’t win in dominating fashion against the guys who held the belts.
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by Richard Wade on Nov 10, 2009 2:48 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
It’s more about the guys who held the belts that he beat. Mir who beat a injured and sick Nog (not Mir’s fault ofc) and the 46 year old who hadn’t fought in over a year.
’’Apparently the the only way to kill a lion is by rear naked choke…personally i’d just kick it in the head.’’ – Bas Rutten
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by Pennywise on Nov 10, 2009 4:31 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Perhaps, but by a far less margin than most of the other divisions.
Comes down to Fedor, Overeem, AA ,Barnett(?) and Werdum compared with Lesnar, Nog, Mir, and Napão. Plus throw in some up and comers.
’’Apparently the the only way to kill a lion is by rear naked choke…personally i’d just kick it in the head.’’ – Bas Rutten
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by Pennywise on Nov 10, 2009 1:28 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
And if TUF shows us anything....
There are very few HW prospects out there anywhere.
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by The_Gaijin on Nov 10, 2009 1:37 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
oh don't rely on TUF
Those fighters are mostly picked for reality show ratings, not actual chance to be top competitors.
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by mythbuster on Nov 10, 2009 3:00 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
I don't know....
If a million dollars and the chance to be immortalized as the guy that beat Fedor didn’t prevent him from pissing hot, not sure what will.
by black dragon on Nov 10, 2009 12:32 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
As long as lashley, arlovski and king mo and everyone else is being paid premium dollars by strikeforce then Zuffa did its job.
by mmalogic on Nov 10, 2009 10:22 AM EST up reply actions 2 recs
I will be really pissed off if they sign Barnett, IMO he’s one of those guys who should be banned from ever competing in North America again. He should be relegated to competing on the Japanese pro-wrestling tours for the rest of his life, it seems pretty obvious he is incapable of competing at the highest level without cheating.
by pr0cs on Nov 10, 2009 10:28 AM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Barnett – if they try to promote this White will get out in front talking about a multi-time drug test failure being promoted..etc.
Lashley – Clearly Bobby would get smashed here, and if he didn’t…so be it. It’d be a disaster and more or less sink Strikeforce…plus he has made it clear that he is trying to work his way into the UFC.
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by Brent Brookhouse on Nov 10, 2009 10:34 AM EST up reply actions 0 recs
The sad thing about it is, Rinky-Dink strikeforce will be echoed by every UFC-only fan
by IRodC on Nov 10, 2009 10:19 AM EST reply actions 0 recs
I think most will stick with Strikefarce.
by Phildo on Nov 10, 2009 10:20 AM EST up reply actions 3 recs
People actually expected DW to actually say he enjoyed the show? This is the same guy who was penning “Buck Rogers” and was ‘concerned’ that Fedor might get KO on Saturday. He is a promoter who is more than happy to mock the competition, quite frankly I expected even more vitriol from him (he’s probably looking to sign Rogers now)
by pr0cs on Nov 10, 2009 10:27 AM EST reply actions 3 recs
How is Shane Carwin better than Brett Rogers?...
When you think about it, Carwin has 11-0m with all stoppage wins in his career, but only 1 fight was against anyone who could remotely be called a contender (Gabriel Gonzaga.) Brett Rogers (before getting KO’d by Fedor) was 10-0 with all stoppage wins with only 1 being against a serious opponent in Andre Arlovski. Given both records against the same kind of competition, how can anyone argue that Shane Carwin, who is the UFC’s #1 HW contender right now, is any better than Brett Rogers?
by mburtoni on Nov 10, 2009 10:47 AM EST reply actions 1 recs
I'm gonna use some Dana Logic
He is in the UFC therefore he is better.
by IRodC on Nov 10, 2009 10:51 AM EST up reply actions 1 recs
Maybe because of his wrestling background ??
I don’t know.. I agree with you.. I’m just saying I would personally favor Carwin over Rogers myself because of Carwins wrestling..
Rogers showed good resilience on the ground against Fedor, but it wasn’t like he showed any offensive weapons from his back.. Carwin has the ability to put Rogers there.. Carwin is a lot bigger and better wrestler than Fedor. Carwin would have a slight advantage due to his wrestling and the fact that he could potentially put Rogers on his back and hold him there..
I’m merely speculating as to why some might say that though.. I honestly think they’re about even with a slight advantage going Carwins way..
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by MMAuthority on Nov 10, 2009 10:52 AM EST up reply actions 0 recs
I agree
I would give a slight edge to Carwin if they fought also. It’s just funny to hear all of this ridiculous BS about about what Brock, Frank or Cain would do to Rogers when it’s obvious that Rogers is, for all intents and purposes, on the same level as the UFC’s #1 HW contender.
by mburtoni on Nov 10, 2009 10:55 AM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Brett showed he knows how to survive on the ground against submissions..
That was impressive because, just like Brock, we all had doubt’s as to how he would hold up on the ground against the submissions. Both have proven they understand it and how to avoid or defend it.
One thing Brett also showed was that his wrestling and conditioning is the biggest hole in his game.. He is very susceptible to a wrestler putting him down. Much like Kimbo.. If he were to fight a wrestler that’s strong and big enough to put him down and control him, he will have problems in the future..
8-29-09
Keith Jardine is now known as "The Dean of Antihistamine" because he is always sleeping early in fights..
by MMAuthority on Nov 10, 2009 10:56 AM EST up reply actions 0 recs
True, but....
It’s still kind of hard to tell how good of a wrestler Brett is. I don’t think we’ve seen enough. He got taken down a couple of times by Fedor, but was able to sweep and gain top position. Obviously, Fedor is smaller and doesn’t have the pure wreslting ability of Carwin, but I think Rogers, with a little more work, could be good enough that he could avoid looking like Check Kongo or Ben Rothwell when they fought Velasquez. Not saying Rogers is a beast on the ground, but I wouldn’t underestimate him after seeing how he was able to deal with Fedor on the ground.
by mburtoni on Nov 10, 2009 11:04 AM EST up reply actions 0 recs
One problem though.. cardio
Brett has vastly poor cardio.. Not just from this fight with Fedor either.. He has always shown a predisposed condition to poor cardio after the 2 min. mark of the first rounds in all his fights..
The only difference is that this fight had a higher caliber opponent..
Brett would get mauled by Cain.. Cain has that Deigo Sanchez type pace.. He just doesn’t stop. Brett would have equal chance to catch him but the odd’s still favor someone like Cain who has a relentless pace and non stop control..
8-29-09
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by MMAuthority on Nov 10, 2009 11:08 AM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Not to mention that, while Cain has a propensity to get tagged – he’s not a shrinking violet and will go back to basics (i.e. rip his opponent to the ground) when needed.
I see him doing to Rogers what he did to Rothwell.
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by The_Gaijin on Nov 10, 2009 11:16 AM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Stick ‘em all in a super heavyweight division and let them fight. I’d pay for that.
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by mythbuster on Nov 10, 2009 10:56 AM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Why is Dana giving free publicity to Strikeforce? He’s got a card to promote, why does he give two words to an inferior rival?
by lhasafi on Nov 10, 2009 11:46 AM EST reply actions 0 recs
he’s wondering how they managed to not have 30 min b.s. breaks between fights on network television…and a series of competitive fights with guys that most of which would be used to co-headline his promotion. ortiz vs griffin? really? Vera vs Couture? really? i liked the show, liked all of the fights, yes, even shields vs miller. good variety of styles, werdum vs silva was the only one i looked away from.
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by theworldsoldestsport on Nov 10, 2009 11:52 AM EST reply actions 0 recs
he’s wondering how they managed to not have 30 min b.s. breaks between fights on network television…and a series of competitive fights with guys that most of which would be used to co-headline his promotion. ortiz vs griffin? really? Vera vs Couture? really? i liked the show, liked all of the fights, yes, even shields vs miller. good variety of styles, werdum vs silva was the only one i looked away from.
Gatti. Dekkers. Pele. Aoki. Kang. Vanderlei.
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by theworldsoldestsport on Nov 10, 2009 11:54 AM EST reply actions 0 recs
"You have been issued a warning."
Let me try to clean this up. This is the no name calling version. Fuck Dana White! I am so sick of this shit. He acts like a bitch who doesn’t like the other girls getting attention. His vagina hurts because Fedor has integrity and won’t sign with the UFC and so he bashes Strikeforce. Strikeforce is doing really good things with their Challenger series and they put on a very decent show Saturday on Network TV. I really hope Dana White’s tactics backfire on him. I am actually starting to develop bad feelings towards the UFC directly because of Dana White’s mouth. Fuck Dana White!
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by Warhand on Nov 10, 2009 12:17 PM EST reply actions 1 recs
Maybe, but I didn’t call him a name this time.
"Stop smiling you are about to be punched in the face !"
by Warhand on Nov 10, 2009 12:23 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
because Fedor has integrity
I’m okay with people not like DW because of his mouth, he does take things too far, but your statement is showing your bias if you think Fedor signing with Strikeforce has ANYTHING to do with integrity.
by pr0cs on Nov 10, 2009 1:05 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
+ 1
because of his mouth he will fuck shit up… ; )
by OnewayTiket on Nov 10, 2009 1:37 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
what was even the point of that?
Ricky Hatton came closer to beating Manny Pacquiao than Marquez did to beating Floyd.
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by The Lethal Haze on Nov 10, 2009 2:59 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
I hope it was getting back for Dana stealing his puppy or something, otherwise I’m puzzled.
by Phildo on Nov 10, 2009 3:05 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
I hate to say it,
but my first thought after the fight was that Brock would ruin Fedor.
by Patrick79x on Nov 10, 2009 1:05 PM EST reply actions 0 recs
I don't hate to say it
After I watched the fight I felt as though Rogers could beat ANY elite UFC heavyweight. I think Fedor would knock Brock out QUICKER than he did Rogers. But of course, everyone has an opinion.
Except for Dana, he has nonsense that projects from his vocal cords…absolute nonsense.
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by DocWagner on Nov 10, 2009 1:08 PM EST reply actions 6 recs
at least he pays his fighters that are scheduled to fight plus their win bonus and doesn’t take out the cornerman fees. you know, the shit that really counts. agree with that 1 million%!
by bdw on Nov 10, 2009 2:41 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
I think Roger’s is definitely legit. He should go to Greg Jackson’s and get some high altitude training.
Dana just pooping out of his mouth again.
by bleve_ on Nov 10, 2009 1:14 PM EST reply actions 0 recs
I like Dana, but sometimes I just cringe when he says stuff. That being said, Brent is right, he’s trying to get ahead of the numbers and plant the seed that it’s a failure. Totally understandable from a promoter’s prospective. But I guess he’s been doing this kind of stuff for years now, and it’s worked brilliantly for him. He’s a bulldog. Once he gets his teeth into you, he’s not letting you go. He’s also not above kicking you when you’re down either. It’s like he’s incorporated some of those Pride head stomps and soccer kicks into his business plan. :) I guess if it works and it ain’t broke, don’t fix it.
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by pud333 on Nov 10, 2009 1:21 PM EST reply actions 0 recs
Or Dana could be telling the truth, I know it’s a crazy concept but that could also be the case. The facts are that no matter what the rating is people have already made up their minds about the success or failure of it reminds me of the Fedor argument there is no middle ground just people picking a side and sticking by it.
Now what I find hillarious is that people are now trying to pass off one dimensional Brett Rogers as somehow being on Carwin/Lesnar/Velazguez level it’s laughable to think that a guy with no wrestling or cardio wouldn’t get destroyed in the UFC. Just because he was able to expose Fedor doesn’t make him an elite fighter, both guys would get mauled in the UFC that was probably the only thing that was made clear after watching them fight on Saturday.
by Raker on Nov 10, 2009 1:36 PM EST reply actions 5 recs
LOL
Just because he was able to expose Fedor doesn’t make him an elite fighter, both guys would get mauled in the UFC that was probably the only thing that was made clear after watching them fight on Saturday.
by MMASuPreMaCy on Nov 10, 2009 1:55 PM EST up reply actions 1 recs
http://www.bloodyelbow.com/2009/11/9/1122660/fedor-emelianenko-was-not-exposed
’’Apparently the the only way to kill a lion is by rear naked choke…personally i’d just kick it in the head.’’ – Bas Rutten
"I am impervious to all pain!" – Pat Smith, UFC 1, right before tapping out to a Shamrock heel hook.
by Pennywise on Nov 10, 2009 4:40 PM EST up reply actions 1 recs
Yes I rec the shit out of that second paragraph…
by DamnSevern on Nov 10, 2009 2:34 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Rogers lost via cardio?
I’m still waiting for Carwin to use any of that wrestling in a fight. So far he is one big right hand and a very tough punching bag on defense.
by bignerd on Nov 10, 2009 4:28 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Have u only seen the Gonzaga fight?
Sorry, he Jason Bourned me.
by MMAussie on Nov 10, 2009 4:41 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Only if it is preceded by an S and an H.

by Steve4192 on Nov 10, 2009 2:16 PM EST up reply actions 1 recs
Mr T even looks like Rogers…
"Hello, Japan"
by rembrandt on Nov 11, 2009 5:52 AM EST up reply actions 0 recs
I just scrolled all the way to the bottom to estimate how much back-and-forth anger there will be above
Ima guess about 65%
Now to read through the comments…
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by Robert Downey Sr. on Nov 10, 2009 3:08 PM EST reply actions 0 recs
Whaaa?
only like 28%…
But I do wonder, who is this phantom rec-er that goes around and keeps giving random mmalogic quotes their 1 rec? ghost of subo?
We're just a million little gods causin' rain storms, turning every good thing to rust.
by Robert Downey Sr. on Nov 10, 2009 3:32 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
iiwoyn
I’ve also noticed a few of the usual suspects already posting on this thread. You think it’s bad now, go back to the archives 18 months ago and see what they used to rec.
by bignerd on Nov 10, 2009 4:32 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
If you are gonna accuse me of it at least spell my name right. Also did you know you can look at someone’s profile and see what they recommended?
I rec funny comments, smart comments, and well researched comments.
A man should never waste an opportunity to keep his mouth shut.
by iiowyn on Nov 10, 2009 4:49 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
If you are gonna accuse me of it at least spell my name right.
iionyw is right. Make sure you spell peoples names right or you just look like a fool. Just ask “Fedro”.
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by mythbuster on Nov 10, 2009 6:07 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Bored with Dana
At this point, Dana is hurting the UFC in my opinion. His constant attempt to belittle other organizations in making the UFC seem bigger than the nfl, nba, mlb, …and the whole universe!!! I’m sick of it and him.
I’ve been watching fighting my whole life. Boxing before the UFC in 93 and both since then. I’m 43. Dana is as guilty of hype, lies and bully tactics as Don King, Bob Arum, and any other promoters he’s trash talked.
More recently, Zuffa puts on more cards than they have fighters for. And Dana fills remaining space with hype and boring fights that are never worth the $50ppv price.
$50 x12UFC’s = $600 for a 1 year membership fee to watch fighting on tv.
If half of those fights suck, its a horrific waste of money. And they do. Dana will say anything to sucker that $50 from your pocket.
Or, he doesn’t fill it when a main fight cancels from the card. How is 106 still worth 50 after dropping the headliner Lesnar/ Carwin? How do you NOT replace a huge bout like that? Tito/Griff was already there. total scam.
So, after far too many $50 hits and with a more open eye to the hype and a few bit torrents later, all UFC’s are free. I no longer spend $600 a year on that which should be free and IS FREE with Strikeforce, Dream, K1 and the smaller shows.
Dream, K1 and Strikeforce are big shows.
Since, bit torrenting the UFCs… I’ve yet to see a card that made me feel Gosh, I should have spent $50 bux to see it 12hrs earlier. Not even close.
Everything out of Dana’s mouth is for ‘business’. Hype is Lying for the purpose of Selling the moment. Cases and Points? Here are just 3 recent examples.
Fedor Emilianenko – He sucks. He’s great, were getting him. We lost him, he sucks anyway.
Kimbo Slice – “That guy sucks, what a joke”.
Now, he’s in every screenpromo on NBC shows for TUF while not even a contender anymore. Hype, Lies for your money. Kimbo is not a long term asset to the UFC. They’re going to give him “stand up fighters”, not really testing him, Kimbo not really growing in the sport, for a few years and then he’ll be commentating here and there and an ‘ambassador’ to the sport.
…and the ridiculous hype of CB Dolloway as a fighter, what a crock, this guy is a little leaguer.
Junie Browning as a ’bad boy". This is not the image mma should have if it wants to be further accepted into the main stream. NYC and many other states, still no regs.
And with so many organizations now cross promoting, working together, allowing fighters to have non-exculsive contracts, and getting network tv deals ie. Dream, Strikeforce, Bellator, the UFC is now starting to isolate itself from having the best fights and it looks more like a league just on ppv and with no network tv deal, it looks like Dana’s bully act has isolated him as the guy no Network wants to work with.
Play right. Play fair. Dont let Greed own you.
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by jiMMAy on Nov 10, 2009 3:46 PM EST reply actions 5 recs
I just don’t know what to say…
A man should never waste an opportunity to keep his mouth shut.
by iiowyn on Nov 10, 2009 4:53 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
You wouldn't.
Mauricio Shogun Rua #1 LHW in the World. The TRUE Champion.
Mike Goldberg: "You know Joe, When Matt and his brother Mark Hughes were growing up, they would pound each other behind the barn."
by xFenixKnightx on Nov 11, 2009 1:14 PM EST up reply actions 1 recs
There’s a rec.
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by mythbuster on Nov 11, 2009 3:02 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
$50 x12UFC’s = $600 for a 1 year membership fee to watch fighting on tv.
Get more friends.
I usually SAVE money staying in to watch the UFC versus going out to the bars and chasing tail. It usually costs about $10 per person for the PPV, a pony keg, and a couple of large pizzas. Contrasted to the typical $50-$75 I would spend at the bars, the UFC is a bargain night of entertainment.
by Steve4192 on Nov 10, 2009 5:11 PM EST reply actions 1 recs
I don’t get it, do people actually pay 55 dollars to sit and watch the fight by yourself?
I don’t get how people can always complain about the cost of a UFC event, if that much money is important to you, find friends or go to the bar. If that much money doesn’t negatively impact your life, it’s not something to complain about.
by Phildo on Nov 10, 2009 5:18 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
I have done it plenty of times. There aren’t any bars where i live that show the fights. Plus the PPV only costs $39.95 ($37 USD) in Aus so i don’t really complain.
Sorry, he Jason Bourned me.
by MMAussie on Nov 10, 2009 5:39 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs

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