The Fight Network looks at the relationship between Pro Wrestling and MMA.
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UFC = WWE
Strikeforce = WCW
lol
SHOGUN WILL SLAY THE DRAGON!!!
SHOGUN TO BE THE NEW LHW CHAMP!!!
Mike Goldberg: "You know Joe, When Matt and his brother Mark Hughes were growing up, they would pound each other behind the barn."
That’s actually pretty charitable to Strikeforce. WCW was winning at one point.
by JRN on Oct 9, 2009 8:47 PM EDT up reply actions
That was the golden age.
*reflects
Anywho… crazier things have happened. The stars could align for SF. How? CBS, EA MMA, Showtime, Fedor, Mousasi, Overeem, Dream, Gina Carano, Diaz, Mayhem, Melendez, King Mo signing, Lashley signing, Womens MMA, etc. Theres so much more. Anyone thinking Strikeforce is eventually gonna go out of business is delusional. This thing is just getting started. :)
SHOGUN WILL SLAY THE DRAGON!!!
SHOGUN TO BE THE NEW LHW CHAMP!!!
Mike Goldberg: "You know Joe, When Matt and his brother Mark Hughes were growing up, they would pound each other behind the barn."
by xFenixKnightx on Oct 9, 2009 8:56 PM EDT up reply actions
Because PRIDE had 5 fighters and events where held in Bingo Halls with no production value?
Who would be PRIDE’s equivalent to ‘New Jack’?
Freakshow Fights: Check
Hardcore Underground Fanbase: Check
Consistantly Entertaining Matches: Check
Had to stay up late or Download it to see it: Check
As far as PRIDE’s “New Jack”, I’d have to say Heath Herring. Always entertaining and dangerous, but no where near Champion Caliber.
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The reason...
Ted Turner had the bigger pocket book. He was able to lure away the hyped wrestlers. Good equation here; Hulk Hogan= Fedor. But who would be Macho Man? Hogan at that point was well past his prime, but was still the biggest draw in pro wrestling. So what did the UFC have to do? Create new fresh marketable young stars. TUF franchise anyone? Diego Sanchez=The Rock. Kimbo=Stone Cold? Much like Kimbo, Steve Austin was marketable in another promotion, but floundered out. When he went to WWE he was remarketed and became huge. Could this happen for Kimbo?
Actually I think they do. My brother is a HARDCORE wrestling fan. I been bugging him non stop about UFC, WEC, Strikeforce so he eventually started watching just to shut me up. Slowly but surely, he is getting hooked. =)
Heh, my kids are growing up on MMA instead of wrestling. Times are a changin.
SHOGUN WILL SLAY THE DRAGON!!!
SHOGUN TO BE THE NEW LHW CHAMP!!!
Mike Goldberg: "You know Joe, When Matt and his brother Mark Hughes were growing up, they would pound each other behind the barn."
by xFenixKnightx on Oct 9, 2009 9:00 PM EDT up reply actions
its called denial
"I’m not going to stop yelling because that would mean, I lost the fight!"-Kenny Powers
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by ekc on Oct 9, 2009 9:50 PM EDT up reply actions
Probably most important part is (unconsciously) fan base is same.Most people recently know about MMA.Act like never a fan of pro wrestling.But really is people like to talk about shit org didn’t like or what is bad ass attitude.Same as pro wrestling.
I don’t deny that is part of enjoying this sports but hey,people need more realize about that aspect.
I can’t stand pro-wrestling matches, with the in-ring theatrics & obviously scripted ‘fights’. It’s impressive that men that big can fling themselves about so casually, but if I want to see a gymnastics competition, I’ll watch it during the Olympics.
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by Scott C. Broussard on Oct 9, 2009 8:58 PM EDT up reply actions
I don’t care for manufactured bad blood—in fact, I don’t care to know if the guys fighting hate each other whether it’s real or not. But when it comes to creative entrances and fighters generally fooling around with their personas, I’m 100% in favor of it.
"I’m not going to stop yelling because that would mean, I lost the fight!"-Kenny Powers
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by ekc on Oct 9, 2009 9:50 PM EDT up reply actions
Obligatory
SHOGUN WILL SLAY THE DRAGON!!!
SHOGUN TO BE THE NEW LHW CHAMP!!!
Mike Goldberg: "You know Joe, When Matt and his brother Mark Hughes were growing up, they would pound each other behind the barn."
by xFenixKnightx on Oct 9, 2009 9:02 PM EDT up reply actions
Pro Wrestling is not gay (clickyclicky)
"Why am I here? Why does my mind have wings? Why do blue midgets hit me with fish?!" - The Tick
I never got pro wrestling or pokemon. Made for a lonely childhood.
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by Ubernoober on Oct 9, 2009 8:57 PM EDT reply actions 1 recs
they could've gone back a step or five further
reading this book I was pretty intrigued to learn that Akira Maeda fought his way from Seattle to Brazil as a pro-wrestler and the Brazilian vale tudo tradition grew directly out of the North American tradition of catch wrestlers accepting challenge matches from local tough guys.
Of course back in the day, pro wrestling was (mostly) real.
No pro-wrestling = no BJJ, no MMA.
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by Kid Nate on Oct 9, 2009 9:15 PM EDT reply actions 1 recs
yes of course!
my bad. thank god for the interwebs — little secret, but I have to search google for almost every post or I’d misspell or misname at least one fighter. somewhere along the way, I lost my ability to remember names.
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Even though a lot of MMA fans never accept that they liked pro-wrestling, its even dumber to ignore the similarities. The UFC way of promoting themselves as being IN YOUR FACE is very reminiscent of WWF and their “Attitude” in the late 90s.
My point is I wanna see a Stone Cold Stunner in MMA. :)
The last time I watched wrestling was when the Ultimate Warrior got poisoned by Papa Shango.
Good times.
The last time I watched wrestling
was right before I changed the channel
MMA’s fanbase is a prowrestlin base way more then a boxing one.
"I’m not going to stop yelling because that would mean, I lost the fight!"-Kenny Powers
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All sports use wrestling style marketing in some way or another. Good guy vs bad guy sells in any sport, not just in MMA or pro wrestling.
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by Brad Ackerson on Oct 9, 2009 10:30 PM EDT reply actions 1 recs
exactly
which is one of the reasons why i’m not impressed with this video.
in order to make their big comparison they had to cherry pick obscure footage of genki sudo entrances, charles krazy horse bennett antics, and frank shamrock versus bas rutten. umm…. ok that’s not exactly representative of the modern sport.
they could have made the exact same video to compare pro wrestling with pro football, and found a bunch of weird NFL clips from the past 20 years.
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There are plenty of other clips he could have chosen. And while it’s true that there are elements of pro wrestling promotion in all sports, it’s especially interesting in MMA because of a) crossover in actual athletes, sometimes stars and b) the fact that MMA is so often marketed for its REALNESS as a combat sport, which makes the pro wrestling overlap somewhat awkward.
When I was a kid
I was all about some pro wrestling, would go to all the events that came in town(even saw a ECW event that was held at the community college basketball gym) and caught all the ppvs on the cable box with the chip in it, but as I got into high school me and my friends got over it. Once in college MMA filled the void, now I have been to like 7 live events and we dont miss a ppv.
by TennesseeTopTeam on Oct 9, 2009 10:37 PM EDT reply actions
Who has the best “wrestling persona” in MMA, is it Shonnie Carter?
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Jason Miller
"Let's kick some names and take some a$$"
by StayGoldLikeFlair on Oct 10, 2009 12:43 PM EDT up reply actions
Shhhh!
We aren’t supposed to mention Lesnar and pro wrestling together.
"Why am I here? Why does my mind have wings? Why do blue midgets hit me with fish?!" - The Tick
Kimbo
Before Kimbo got in good graces of UFC I thought he could really make some money in the WWE, he didn’t need true skills to land in a solid MMA promotion and there have been far worse athletes that have stepped into a pro ring. He would make a solid heel and would be an instant draw. Nice pick-up Dana and Co. He could have drawn a few casual fans away from the buys.
My background is Pro Wrestling and Boxing
As I’ve frown older I’ve learned to appreciate and love MMA, but I still love pro wrestling. At this point I think its more of nostalgia thing, holding onto childhood memories (Ric Flair, Tully Blanchard and The Andersons-vs-Dusty Rhodes, Nikita Koloff and the Road Warriors at the old Capital Center) b/c wrestling today sucks.
"Let's kick some names and take some a$$"
by StayGoldLikeFlair on Oct 10, 2009 12:51 PM EDT reply actions
Cuz I’m a jet-flyin’, limosine-ridin’, kiss-stealin’, wheelin’, dealin’ son of a gun….AND YOU’RE NOT!!!
"It would appear that the strain was more than he could bear".- Doc Holliday
by MyFistYourFace on Oct 10, 2009 3:14 PM EDT up reply actions
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