Strikeforce: Fedor vs. Rogers Shaping Up

by Nick Thomas on Oct 9, 2009 5:46 PM EDT in News Comment 110 comments

Here is how the rumored card is looking so far:

Main Card Bouts:
Fedor Emelianenko (30-1) vs. Brett Rogers (10-0)

Jake Shields (23-4-1) vs. Jason Miller (22-6) [Strikeforce MW Title]

Gegard Mousasi (26-2-1) vs. Rameau Thierry Sokoudjou (7-4)

Fabricio Werdum (12-4-1) vs. Antonio Silva (13-1)

Preliminary Bouts:
Erin Toughill (10-2-1) vs. Marloes Coenen (16-3) [#1 Contender]

Live on on CBS, Nov 7th at 8:00 PM EST.

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this is the best card strikeforce put on all year. everything else does not compare

by SHOWMAN 56 on Oct 9, 2009 3:35 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs

Correction...EVER!

This will also be the best card ever on CBS.

by MMASuPreMaCy on Oct 9, 2009 3:56 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

by Nick Thomas on Oct 9, 2009 4:00 PM EDT up reply actions 4 recs

LOL

One can dream with the “Voice” saying that Mayhem is living his fantasy!
=)

by MMASuPreMaCy on Oct 9, 2009 4:05 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

You say the reason you always post stuff about non-Zuffa owned promotions is because everyone else covers them enough and you don’t have any bias against them, right? Yet I never see you in the comments section of a UFC article talking about how great the card is gonna be, why is that? I can see your point about not making Fanposts about it but if you really were unbiased I’d think you would at least comment about how good a card, say, UFC 106 is gonna be, but you don’t, you only say it about Strikeforce, Dream, Affliction, etc. How do you really expect us to believe you’re not anti-Zuffa?

Walla walla walla I'm an idiot.

by ufc4 on Oct 9, 2009 6:35 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions 0 recs

I get to them when I have time, and I have before. I think UFC 106 will the UFC’s next mega card that will prob. due around 1 mill buys. I am with the others who are shocked that Forrest took the fight with Tito, but excited to see another quality fight on the card (I was not looking forward to Tito vs Coleman). I am not sure how well 104 will do though. Very quiet on that end and it will depend on Machida being a draw to sell. Good stuff from all MMA lately. Too much to talk about, really. =)

by MMASuPreMaCy on Oct 9, 2009 6:47 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

Stacked?

This is what a “stacked” card looks like right? I’m only been into this for maybe 2 years and every fight seems worth watching no matter what style you’re looking for.

STACKED!

by Krimson on Oct 9, 2009 5:43 PM EDT up reply actions 1 recs

Yeah, it’s sort of surprising considering how shallow the talent pool is. I mean who’s going to be the big draw on the next card? They maybe should’ve saved one of these guys for the next show or something. Atleast Shields or Mayhem or something. But yeah, not complaining. I can actually watch a show here in my home (basic cable).

by Dooda on Oct 9, 2009 8:14 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

Rumored Showtime December Card:
- Nick Diaz vs. Jay Hieron (WW title)
- Josh Thomson vs. Gil Melendez (LW Unification Title)
- Frank Shamrock vs. TBA
- Scott Smith vs. TBA
- Cris Cyborg vs. TBA

by Nick Thomas on Oct 9, 2009 8:41 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

STACKED!

by Krimson on Oct 9, 2009 10:13 PM EDT up reply actions 1 recs

I think it’s Frank vs. Scott and Cris Cyborg vs, Coenen or Toughill. Also what happens to Lindland, Jacare, Lawler, King Mo, Arlovski, and Lashley who are all rumored to be on either Strikeforce card? If some of these guys are added that will be a great Showtime card. Although I’d much rather have Tim Kennedy take on Scott Smith than Frank Shamrock.

by nottheface on Oct 9, 2009 10:24 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

Coenen or Toughill are not gonna fight Cyborg 1 month later

The other thing is half the guys you just listed have not even been confirmed to sign with Strikeforce

King Mo, Arlovski, and Lashley keep getting mentioned but I wouldnt by in until you see a signing confirmed.

Also did they ever confirm Lindland? I thought I remember them confirming his signing in August but I wasnt sure if I dreamed that and I’m too lazy too google.

by bigdmmafan on Oct 9, 2009 10:33 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

He is signed to Strikeforce. Either Lindland, Jacare, and Lawler will be fighting in December if there is not enough room for them in this show. Shaolin will also be fighting in December, wants to fight in November though.

by MMASuPreMaCy on Oct 9, 2009 10:36 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

That’s why I was asking what happened to Lashley, Mo, and Arlovski. Last I heard Strikeforce was working on a deal to buy Lashley’s current contract, Mo had turned Sengoku 7 down and was negotiating with SF, and Arlovski planned on fighting in December or January. What is the word on all three?

And I was under the impression that if Cyborg was ready to fight in December then either Coenen or Toughill would be pulled to face her, but I maybe mistaken.

by nottheface on Oct 9, 2009 11:42 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions 0 recs

We don’t know the exten of her injury.

by MMASuPreMaCy on Oct 10, 2009 1:16 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

Umm, that doesn’t seem that stacked to me. The Nov 7 card certainly isn’t, but Nick Diaz vs Jay hieron, while a decent fight, doesn’t make this a very stacked card IMO. Frank Shamrock is cool, but he’s lost some luster with age too.

by Dooda on Oct 9, 2009 11:25 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

Best Chance

Putting on a great massive show is there best chance to build the brand and build other fighters.
Moussasi can’t headline effectively now because no one knows him. If he beats a dude who looks like the Predator in impressive fashion with a good crowd then maybe he’s a headliner.

by SES 84 on Oct 10, 2009 11:35 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

Woot!

…so far, so good…

"Hey, sewer rat may taste like pumpkin pie, but I'd never know 'cause I wouldn't eat the filthy motherf**ker" - Jules Winnfield

by WeaponElDeem on Oct 9, 2009 3:38 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs

Very Nice

This has Card of the Year potential.

Yep, I have Twitter too. Follow me @deowade

by Deo Wade on Oct 9, 2009 3:38 PM EDT reply actions 1 recs

but they should have five fights on this card. elitexc heat had 5fights on it main card which include a title fight. so it sucks cbs is short changing them

by SHOWMAN 56 on Oct 9, 2009 3:43 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs

They may have a swing bout, which may be Coenen vs Toughill or some other matchup.

by MMASuPreMaCy on Oct 9, 2009 3:57 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

According to Fightlinker it’s not scheduled for the telecast but is the back up plan should one of the four televised fights get canceled for whatever reason.

by Andy R on Oct 9, 2009 7:24 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

It’s the swing bout. It’ll be televised if there is enough time because of quick finishes not a cancellation. lol.

by scrambledeggs on Oct 9, 2009 8:31 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

god i hope it doens’t go the way of affliction or the other strikeforce where drug tests, injuries, and whatever else completely destroyed the event…and we were left with affliction canceled, mike kyle vs werdum, mousasi vs legit babalu (at least it seemed beforehand) and cyborg stomping gina (at least it seemed legit beforehand)

Gatti. Dekkers. Pele. Aoki. Kang. Vanderlei.
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by theworldsoldestsport on Oct 9, 2009 3:45 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs

Think all of the fighters on the left win?

by MMAInFeRioRiTy on Oct 9, 2009 3:49 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs

I think Werdum vs. Silva can be competetive

and I dont know enough about women’s mma to comment on that fight but my best guess is Fedor, Gegard, and Jake simply destroy their opponents.

That is not a knock on Soko, Brett, or Mayhem but Fedor, Mousasi, and Shields are on a different level compared to their opponents.

by bigdmmafan on Oct 9, 2009 3:54 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

Mayhem has never been subbed (already fought Jacare twice). The fight will be a war and Shields will need to punish Mayhem to beat him. I don’t think he can just catch him in a sub. I think it will be a great fight.

by MMASuPreMaCy on Oct 9, 2009 3:59 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

Mayhem has been subbed

by Todd Carney with a Guillotine Choke so it can happen.

by bigdmmafan on Oct 9, 2009 4:01 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

Recently… , that was in 2002. =)

Plus, he fought Jacare (twice), GSP, etc, and the only way to beat him is to beat him up! It will be a war.

by MMASuPreMaCy on Oct 9, 2009 4:08 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

I actually think Mayhem has a good chance to win this fight. His striking is way better than Jakes and he wont give him his neck like Lawler.

by xbuckeyex05 on Oct 9, 2009 5:11 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

agreed, mayhem has a distinct advantage on the ground and a big reach advantage on shields. his fighting style is very similiar to nick diaz….but like happier.

he also has much better ring entrances. youtube him kickin the head of dan henderson’s pinata sometime.

by Headkick on Oct 9, 2009 5:11 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

Uh, Mayhem does not have a distinct advantage on the ground. Not being subbed in a few years does not equate to being better on the ground than Jake Shields.

I specializes in grammar fail.

by a tommy point on Oct 9, 2009 7:39 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

What are Mayhem’s jujitsu credentials? I just remember Joe rogan introducing him as a sick submission specialist back in…2005 I think.

You don't look like a Tanaka.

by spectaa on Oct 9, 2009 8:19 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

So spectaa, would you consider Mayhem Miller the Michael Jordan of Brazilian jiu jitsu?

Walla walla walla I'm an idiot.

by ufc4 on Oct 9, 2009 10:38 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions 1 recs

LOL

Awesome screen name.

by MMASuPreMaCy on Oct 9, 2009 4:09 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

Okay my head hurts

I see MMASuPreMaCy commenting here and then just now MMA InFeRioRiTy.

What is going on here?

OH yeah I love this card. UFC cannot beat this unless they set up a live card that isn’t another matured Fight Night spectacle.

Seattle is cursed. For life.

by SSreporters on Oct 9, 2009 4:00 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs

I’m his alter-ego. The Yin to his Yang.

by MMAInFeRioRiTy on Oct 9, 2009 4:10 PM EDT up reply actions 2 recs

Or am I your alter-ego, the Yang to your Yin?

by MMASuPreMaCy on Oct 9, 2009 4:11 PM EDT up reply actions 2 recs

This explains why your comments always have 1 rec by them…

by casey manrique on Oct 9, 2009 4:19 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

LOL

This is a lie. No one rec’s my comments, just some of my posts.
=)

by MMASuPreMaCy on Oct 9, 2009 4:19 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

Just trying to create a little controversy

by casey manrique on Oct 9, 2009 4:20 PM EDT up reply actions 1 recs

Rec’d.

by MMASuPreMaCy on Oct 9, 2009 4:22 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

Other Fighters Rumored...

Where Jacare, Lindland, and Robbie Lawler.

So, if they don’t make their way on to this card, they will fight on December, which will be another SOLID card for SF.

by MMASuPreMaCy on Oct 9, 2009 4:10 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs

Yeah Robbie Lawler vs. Jacare was rumored… but that’s craziness if they put that on the undercard.

by Nick Thomas on Oct 9, 2009 4:12 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

Shaolin wanted to fight on the card as well. Arlovski, Lombard, and Lashley also wanted to fight on the card. From what I heard, a ton of MMA fighters were lining up to be on this card because of the bank they would make from their sponsors. We will see if they carry over to December.

Also, remember that Showtime did show the CBS EliteXC undercards before, but since Showtime is having the Challengers event the day before, I am not sure they will.

by MMASuPreMaCy on Oct 9, 2009 4:18 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

Why didn’t they line up Mousasi against Lombard in a catchweight match? That fight makes a lot more sense to me as a non-title match than what they currently got.

by nottheface on Oct 9, 2009 4:45 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

I think it has more to do with what Bellator wants in return for letting SF use Lombard. That fight may happen in the future, but SF probably didn’t want it to happen on CBS.

by MMASuPreMaCy on Oct 9, 2009 5:19 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

I thought Big Foot could not fight in the US?

"I'M GOING TO SHA-BOOMS!"

by beery_pbr on Oct 9, 2009 4:10 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs

Already Answered:

"There is no action pending against Mr. Silva nor is any contemplated," wrote CSAC Executive Officer Dave Thornton in an e-mail to Sherdog.com. "So he is clear to fight in California or any other state as long as he fulfills all other requirements."

http://www.sherdog.com/news/news/silva-werdum-added-to-strikeforce-20235

by MMASuPreMaCy on Oct 9, 2009 4:12 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

sorry, don't go to sherdog

I did not know that.

"I'M GOING TO SHA-BOOMS!"

by beery_pbr on Oct 9, 2009 4:14 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

There’s no reason to be sorry for that.

Walla walla walla I'm an idiot.

by ufc4 on Oct 9, 2009 7:33 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions 0 recs

I am happy with this card for the reason being that these fights look to be competitive (I think that Mousasi vs Soukoudjou fight may lean more towards The Dreamcatcher though). While you can say this about any fighter, but Rogers is capable of pulling off the upset especially with his power even though Fedor has more tools to win. Miller vs Shields should be pretty competitive, and I personally find the Werdum vs Silva fight to be pretty evenly matched. The Coenen vs Toughill fight is a rematch that had Toughill winning by TKO/KO, but I want Marloes to win this, and I hope that fight is shown on television especially just for the sake of adding some credibility to Cyborg’s next challenger.

by chrisbboy82 on Oct 9, 2009 4:23 PM EDT reply actions 1 recs

Mayhem ftw

But if you are stupid, you will be beaten with a stick - Proverbs 10:13

by Ominous on Oct 9, 2009 4:23 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs

sick card!

by JoLy on Oct 9, 2009 4:28 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs

Must be a deep LHW division...

Babalu beats Soko, Mousasi beats Babalu… so Mousasi fights Soko?

by Shaun32887 on Oct 9, 2009 4:33 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs

Its a work in progress. King Mo was very close to taking the fight.

by MMASuPreMaCy on Oct 9, 2009 5:20 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

I can’t believe that SF is pulling the old Pride bs with non title fights that is embarrasing if you’re a champion defend the belt.

by Raker on Oct 9, 2009 4:37 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs

it is a little strange. has anyone suggested a reason why this is?

could it be due to whatever the relationship with sokoudjou is, and if he were to win the belt they might not have him under contract?

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by GregS123 on Oct 9, 2009 4:42 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

M-1’s website says it’s a title fight.

Then again it’s M-1’s website. So who knows for sure?

by Andy R on Oct 9, 2009 7:31 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

If M-1’s website says that it is more than likely untrue.

Walla walla walla I'm an idiot.

by ufc4 on Oct 9, 2009 7:36 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions 0 recs

NO KAMERA!

Keep firing Assholes!

The Leafs are back!

by Ubernoober on Oct 9, 2009 7:37 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

I won’t matter. Soko is gonna get beat bad.

I love me some Sexyama!

by pud333 on Oct 9, 2009 4:49 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

Awesome, awesome free card.

I love me some Sexyama!

by pud333 on Oct 9, 2009 4:48 PM EDT reply actions 1 recs

"Bully Beatdown"

Top to bottom seems to be a solid card, the UFC will have a hard time counter programming against this one.

"Let's kick some names and take some a$$"

by StayGoldLikeFlair on Oct 9, 2009 5:17 PM EDT via mobile reply actions 0 recs

"Mayhem" Miller

"Let's kick some names and take some a$$"

by StayGoldLikeFlair on Oct 9, 2009 5:41 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

I need to figure out how use picture in picture.

by toxic on Oct 9, 2009 5:53 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

awesome card!

I’ve never been to an MMA event before, and this one will certainly be a great 1st show!

If you can't laugh at yourself... Who can you laugh at?
The Packers, that’s who.
-- The almighty Manimal

by TheViking83 on Oct 9, 2009 5:28 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs

Enjoy!

Watching Fedor live is an awesome experience.

by MMASuPreMaCy on Oct 9, 2009 6:00 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

by MMASuPreMaCy on Oct 9, 2009 6:08 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs

HOLY DAMN

I just shattered my jaw on the table. Who is she?

by inadvertentgroinstrike on Oct 10, 2009 8:06 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

Erin Toughill

by jacksiwel on Oct 10, 2009 8:33 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

why isn’t the Mousasi fight for the title?? or just non-title since its a mis-match anyways?

hopefully Werdum-Silva happens, would be by far the most competitive HW fight on the card…

love the Coenen-Toughill matchup, wish it was on the main card…

by Reaser16 on Oct 9, 2009 6:27 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs

People said Rogers had no chance against Arlovski either. Check out these odds…

Machida -550
Shogun +375

Fedor -550
Rogers +375

by MMASuPreMaCy on Oct 9, 2009 6:52 PM EDT up reply actions 1 recs

Unfortunately Fedor has a chin that’s made of material stronger than a sand castle.

Twitter: @Mike_Fagan_13
http://www.sackmikegoldberg.com

by Mike Fagan on Oct 9, 2009 6:58 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

Chin = Yes. Skin = No.
=)

by MMASuPreMaCy on Oct 9, 2009 7:01 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

LOL, it’s funny because it’s true. But no elbows on the ground in Strikeforce so he should be ok.

Walla walla walla I'm an idiot.

by ufc4 on Oct 9, 2009 7:17 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions 0 recs

Elbows on the ground have nothing to do with Fedor’s propensity for cuts.
There were no elbows on the ground in Pride either.

by scrambledeggs on Oct 9, 2009 8:36 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

Correct.

by MMASuPreMaCy on Oct 9, 2009 10:37 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

It still helps. Does he have a better chance of getting cut with elbows on the ground allowed or not?

Walla walla walla I'm an idiot.

by ufc4 on Oct 9, 2009 10:40 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions 0 recs

That depends on the chance of Rogers putting him on his back…

A man should never waste an opportunity to keep his mouth shut.

by iiowyn on Oct 10, 2009 12:29 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

Another great benefit with the “no ground elbows rule” is that it makes it easier to catch your opponent in arm bars and triangles. Fortunately for Rogers Fedor sucks at armbars…

by nottheface on Oct 10, 2009 12:53 AM EDT via mobile up reply actions 0 recs

Exactly

Rogers maybe a good up and comer but it’s not like Rogers dominated Arlovski and then ko’d him.

Anyone sensible would agree that where Rogers looked good Arlovski looked equally bad. Even Barnett said it right after it happened that you dont go straight back.

Now Rogers has a chance because everyone has a chance but Reaser16 is correct when he says by far the most competetive match is Werdum and Silva.

by bigdmmafan on Oct 9, 2009 7:04 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

Oh, agreed. I love the Werdum vs Silva matchup. I just don’t think the Fedor vs Rogers fight is a “mismatch”, which is the sentiment that some people feel.

by MMASuPreMaCy on Oct 9, 2009 7:07 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

Mismatch?

No. As close of a matchup as some are making it out to be? No as well.

People tend to forget July 08 and January 09. I could easily see this going down like the Sylvia match up.

Frank Trigg said that Fedor hits like he has hammers for fists and I really think Fedor decides when he is gonna end a match.

Brett had better hope he can keep this standing because that is the only chance he has if this hits th ground Fedor will get a submission within 1 minute.

by bigdmmafan on Oct 9, 2009 7:17 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

Really? I’d say Fedor vs. anyone but Lesnar is a mismatch.

Walla walla walla I'm an idiot.

by ufc4 on Oct 9, 2009 7:18 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions 0 recs

Fixed...

Really? I’d say Fedor vs. anyone ~~but Lesnar is a mismatch~~ is a heavy favorite.

by MMASuPreMaCy on Oct 9, 2009 7:43 PM EDT up reply actions 1 recs

odds have never meant anything to me….half because odds are made for better purposes, not as legit “odds” and half because I know I know more about the sport (when it comes to mma, boxing and football) than the people or whatever method is being used to make the odds…

and what does Machida-Shogun have to do with Fedor-Rogers??

by Reaser16 on Oct 9, 2009 6:59 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

better = betting*

by Reaser16 on Oct 9, 2009 6:59 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

Antonio Silva is such a beast. I pray he beats Werdum, who I really like, and Barnett. That sets him up for a Fedor fight. One of the few guys who would even give Fedor a real fight.

Twitter: @FlyByKnite

by FlyByKnight on Oct 9, 2009 7:16 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs

I can see Werdum giving Silva fits like Ricco did because he is such a good grappler and I think this is without a doubt the toughest fight of Silva’s carrer.

Silva can pull off the victory but I think either way its gonna be a decision.

by bigdmmafan on Oct 9, 2009 7:22 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

Ricco has better wrestling and takedowns then Werdum though.

by MMASuPreMaCy on Oct 9, 2009 7:44 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

Bah! Why do we have to settle for this low quality stuff on free TV!

^ Sarcasm.

Keep firing Assholes!

The Leafs are back!

by Ubernoober on Oct 9, 2009 7:28 PM EDT reply actions 1 recs

im going to put 100 on Rogers just in case....

its a win win for me anyway…Roger wins…i win like 400$ if he loses im still happy cuz my favorite fighter won…..but never say never in a MMA match. anything can happen. i wont miss an opportunity to make easy 375$.

; )~

by 1WAYtiket on Oct 9, 2009 8:08 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs

Or…

You could bet your $100 on Fedor and make a 17% ROI.

Keep firing Assholes!

The Leafs are back!

by Ubernoober on Oct 9, 2009 8:10 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

I never miss an opportunity to throw away $100

I dislike Matt Hughes.

by MonkeyCHops on Oct 9, 2009 8:12 PM EDT up reply actions 1 recs

never say never....plus im not paying 50$ for PPV...so kinda evens out

by 1WAYtiket on Oct 9, 2009 8:13 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

Put 10, except if you want to lose 100 for the lulz. 10 is enough, if you win, you won’t but IF you win, you get some bucks to buy you booze and celebrate the god of flukes, if you lose, meh it’s 10 bucks.

You don't look like a Tanaka.

by spectaa on Oct 9, 2009 8:33 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs