UFC 106 Preview: The Softer Side of Brock Lesnar
The champ exposes it to Dan Wetzel:
Despite his immense size and years of performing as a big character in pro wrestling, Lesnar, 32, is a soft spoken guy. He's a farm kid from South Dakota , who now lives up here, amidst the rolling hills and fishing lakes a couple hours drive northwest of the Twin Cities.
He's most comfortable with down-to-earth people he's known for years. His 10-week training camp is run by his full-time coach, Marty Morgan, who worked with Lesnar at Minnesota . One training partner is UFC fighter Chris Tuchscherer, who after his last fight immediately worked three weeks running a tractor on a 10,000-acre farm in North Dakota.
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He, his wife and infant son live on a secluded, wooded plot of land. A second-grade daughter from a previous relationship lives in this 10,000-population town. It’s why he’s here. "I see her as much as the court allows," he said.
Family is everything to him. He’s one of the few athletes you’ll ever met who not only speaks about trying to be the best father, but also the best husband. Then he appears to back it up. His hobbies are hunting and fishing and working his farm.
"Fighting is not my life," the 32-year-old says. "My family is my life."
Pretty heart warming, no?
Well it is Brock Lesnar, so there's this charming bit of folksiness as he talks to high school buddy Jon Madsen:
Madsen mentions a girl they both knew back in the day.
“What happened to her?” Lesnar asked.
“Three kids,” Madsen said.
“She finally put out, huh?” Lesnar deadpanned.
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Considering his most recent post fight comments...
I would have left off the part about trying to be the best husband he can be, if I were Dan.
A good husband needs to get on his woman every now and again.
by Poindexter on Oct 8, 2009 11:39 AM EDT up reply actions 5 recs
Because he talked about getting on top of his wife? Seriously dude?
Arguing on the internet is like being in the special olympics, even when you win you are still retarded.
Have you seen his smothering top game?
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by jemaleddin on Oct 8, 2009 12:47 PM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
I assume all of you aren't married then.
Grabbing the mic and bragging to a crowd of 10K+ about going home and getting on top of your wife isn’t an example of being a good husband.
Thats a bad assumption
that people that disagree with your opinion must not be married.
Hopefully those 4 will respond to prove me wrong.
Regardless, I doubt many women would consider that the sort of behavior they expect out of a “good husband”. I doubt anyone, male or female, would appreciate being used in that manner as a part of some anger fueled rant.
I disagree again
You must not know many women who get turned on by fighting/bravado/cockiness, etc. A lot of women would be thrilled. I’m not trying to pick a fight with you, just trying to point out that not all women, husbands, marriages, etc are all puppy dogs and ice cream.
not all women, husbands, marriages, etc are all puppy dogs and ice cream.
Wait… there’s no ice cream??
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so says
the Facebook profile of every single female I know.
Sigh…..
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You can't assume to know what anyone would feel in that situation.
It’s not like Brock is married to his high school girlfriend from a small podunk town in the middle of nowhere who was suddenly thrust into this world of big crowds and cameras. He is married to freakin’ Sable.
Maybe she didn’t appreciate it and reamed him for it afterward OR maybe she understood that it was simply an “anger fueled rant” because she understands what its like to be in front of thousands of people and the dumb things people say when their in front of a camera and full of testosterone and adrenaline.
I personally would be furious, but I’m not someone who has ever lived that kind of life nor would I assume that MY feelings for it would be shared by her.
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I try and live by the cliche of “ass(out of)U(and)me”, but in this case I’m willing to risk it. Most people that publish nude sexual pictures of themselves probably have a desire to be appreciated in a sexual way. When they do it on a cover of Playboy and married the guy in question, I think it’s safe to assume that she very likely found the remarks complimentary.
Exactly!
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True that some women may not care for his comment,
but his wife is the only one that matters in this instance.
Arguing on the internet is like being in the special olympics, even when you win you are still retarded.
Looks like roy nelson a little bit in that pic but ya Lesnar is a good guy outside the cage but a week until fight time they say his mind flips a switch.
"Frank Mir had a horseshoe up his ass. I told him a year ago. I pulled it out of him and I beat him over the head with it." Brock Lesnar
That’s normal though, or at least it’s pretty widespread. A few days before a tournament or any sort of competition comes up gyms (at least the one I train at) just turn a corner and everyone gets a mindset change because of the nerves and anticipation, it’s just how people deal with being anxious and scared.
He could very well be a saint outside of training/fighting, unfortunately he needs to learn how to control certain aspects of his behavior when he’s actually done with the fight…..
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by Patrick Tenney on Oct 8, 2009 11:47 AM EDT up reply actions
The black belt at our SF academy where I used to train is the funniest, coolest guy ever. Loves talking shit and laughing. But he also still competes in BJJ tournaments and MMA fights. When he has to train and has to abstain from booze and shitty food, he turns into a different person. One small joke and you have to do 50 sprawls.
BOOSH
I feel your pain… one of our instructors gets angry and it’s welcome to burpee town for everyone! ><
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by Patrick Tenney on Oct 8, 2009 1:33 PM EDT up reply actions
Eh
I’m not really impressed by the good ole boy, hunting and spitting image. I grew up with people like that and I don’t really see them as people to look up to.
Fact is, the only way he can live this lifestyle is by being a douchebag werestler/mma fighter.
He’s a meathead.
by Machida Hadouken on Oct 8, 2009 11:42 AM EDT reply actions 2 recs
No, he lives his lifestyle just fine, with few distractions and without the bright lighs of the big city. The fact that he’s a world champ is a small part of his lifestyle, but it doesn’t change his day to day behavior.
You don’t have to look up to Lesnar, or anyone else. But this story shows that he’s a big farm kid, who still enjoys the same things he did growing up, but he just happens to be a UFC champ as well.
And everyone knows that farm = good people, while city = bad people, right?
"Why am I here? Why does my mind have wings? Why do blue midgets hit me with fish?!" - The Tick
watch it..
Fighter bashing isn’t allowed here.
by Anton Tabuena on Oct 8, 2009 1:01 PM EDT up reply actions
Lesnar isn’t really any different from most fighters.
I don’t really why there’s so much hate directed Brock Lesnar. He does his thing, he trains hard and he’s the champion. Period. So people can continue to bemoan that he’s not good for the sport, came from WWE, and disapprove of his behavior but at beat the beloved Randy Couture (who’s always had his share of problems with bigger heavyweights), Heath Herring, and the articulate, verbose, never at a lost for thoughts Frank Murrrr.
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Pretty heart warming, no?
Awww shucks, sir, it is darn heart warming. As long as we forget everything else he has done or said.
Family is everything to him. He’s one of the few athletes you’ll ever met who not only speaks about trying to be the best father, but also the best husband. Then he appears to back it up. His hobbies are hunting and fishing and working his farm.
How are his hobbies backing up that he tries to be the best father and husband?
Also, I’m pretty sure there are other fighters who try to be good fathers and husbands.
Overall, nice fluff piece.
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Oh right… in before the “you just a haaater!” comments.
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You're a hater...
But it’s OK! I accept you for who you are, buddy!
Group Hug!
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It is more or less a fluff piece but I think his detractors really make a big deal about his WWE past and his post-fight antics. Everybody is not going to be like Rich Franklin, Belfort or Couture. Just ask Quinton Jackson.
I think the title of the article “Enigmatic Lesnar defies definition” is unnecessary. There is no softer side of Lesnar, that just who he is. The whole dichotomy between the jock (fighter) and sensitive man is kind of overplayed cliche. Hershel Walker, (and I believe Tony Dorsett) took ballet to stay flexible. Big Marcus Jones like flowers, so what. WOW did you know that Mike Tyson likes birds and loves his children, so shocking.
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by VeeisAnimated on Oct 8, 2009 12:13 PM EDT up reply actions
It is more or less a fluff piece but I think his detractors really make a big deal about his WWE past
So far, you are the only one who has mentioned that he use to work for the WWE.
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What’s your point? Not to mention that the article mentioned it, and it is still used as a talking point when people are discussing Brock Lesnar.
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by VeeisAnimated on Oct 8, 2009 12:31 PM EDT up reply actions
My point is that the WWE thing is a copout. There are many reasons to dislike the guy, but the Brock supporters always fall back on the excuse that people dislike him because he was in the WWE.
As dnevil says, no one cares. The way he acts, stuff he says, etc – thats what he gets judged on, for better or worse.
"Why am I here? Why does my mind have wings? Why do blue midgets hit me with fish?!" - The Tick
I just dont judge these MMA fighters personally
because I dont know them & just enjoy watching them fight. Lesnar may very well be a dick in real life, but I dont deal with him in the personal way.
Arguing on the internet is like being in the special olympics, even when you win you are still retarded.
I don’t know any of them personally, so I have to judge them by what they show us.
"Why am I here? Why does my mind have wings? Why do blue midgets hit me with fish?!" - The Tick
True,
but you can only take things they say in the cage so far.
Arguing on the internet is like being in the special olympics, even when you win you are still retarded.
And to the press, right?
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Because no one cares!
Arguing on the internet is like being in the special olympics, even when you win you are still retarded.
Mike Tyson also enjoys eating children!
I am the bastard love child of Junie Browning and Diamond Dave Kaplan.
by The_Gaijin on Oct 8, 2009 12:33 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions 1 recs
Praise be to Allah!
Walla walla walla I'm an idiot.
by ufc4 on Oct 8, 2009 1:29 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions
And he hates homos btw , so he said ...
And he cursed and seemed to confront Mur after the fight was over and Mur was busted to pieces . And , and , and …do we really need to search for examples ? I don’t know how he is in real life , but his sports persona isn’t really appealing.
His post-fight comments make it hard for him to be an ambassador of the sport, but I think there’s room for his sports persona. I love his shit talk and general bad-assery.
What a Fashion Don’t! That’s like your dick wearing socks with sandals.
by nandez44 on Oct 8, 2009 12:15 PM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
Yeah
I hate Cole Miller now because he confronted Junie Browning after owning him in their fight. How dare he do that. What an absolute jerk.
"I will do nothing lightly. When I walk, I will walk heavily. When I fight, I will fight with conviction. When I speak, I will speak strongly. When I love, I will love with everything"
See, this is why I never make that argument:
Because Junie had it coming.:-)
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And Mir didn’t?
"I will do nothing lightly. When I walk, I will walk heavily. When I fight, I will fight with conviction. When I speak, I will speak strongly. When I love, I will love with everything"
Like I said:
I don’t make that argument. :-)
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Oh I gotcha. My brain is bass ackwards today for some reason.
"I will do nothing lightly. When I walk, I will walk heavily. When I fight, I will fight with conviction. When I speak, I will speak strongly. When I love, I will love with everything"
(And Junie totally deserved it, right? I mean, what a jerk? Then again, it may be what pushed him over the edge to where he is now… so, maybe not a good idea anyway.)
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Yeah he totally did and so did Mir. I don’t mind that stuff if it’s deserved but if it’s not it’s a totally different story. It’s all about treating people the way you want to be treated. I feel bad that he had a terrible upbringing and has had such a hard life but many great people that I know have had the same general bad upbringing and have made something out of themselves despite that. It’s up to you if you are going to let it break you or make you stronger.
"I will do nothing lightly. When I walk, I will walk heavily. When I fight, I will fight with conviction. When I speak, I will speak strongly. When I love, I will love with everything"
Majority of top fighters. Machida , Silva , Fedor , GSP …etc. are soft spoken quiet type. Every guy they face is there toughest challange to date. Every interview before and after is exactly the same. Just PC mouth peices. Never stray out of line say whats to be expected. Brock has blown up so quick because is is the polar opposite of that. he is a champion who speaks his mind and doesn’t care what anybody thinks. I mean seriously do we need another fighter who bows and shakes every opponents hand? There is a reason Brock is the #1 draw in MMA. He knows that which is why he continues to do it.
"Frank Mir had a horseshoe up his ass. I told him a year ago. I pulled it out of him and I beat him over the head with it." Brock Lesnar
by pitbull187 on Oct 8, 2009 12:12 PM EDT reply actions 2 recs
I wonder if he would me more like the others if he handn't taken a detour through the WWE?
I’m not against Lesnar by any stretch, I just wonder how much of that in him is a result of those experiences.
Tito Ortiz is still the #1 draw in MMA. UFC 100 did not beat Ortiz vs. Liddell 2.
Not to mention Kimbo Slice is also a tremendous draw, I think the biggest draw in MMA period. Brock is definitely up there!
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by VeeisAnimated on Oct 8, 2009 12:15 PM EDT up reply actions
Tito’s numbers was 1.7 correct? I don’t remember, nor really care who’s numbers were higher but I find it really interesting that people are still HUGE Tito Ortiz fans. I can not imagine what would happen if beat a significant fighter in the LHW division.
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by VeeisAnimated on Oct 8, 2009 12:21 PM EDT up reply actions
From Patrick Freitas on the UG:
The last time Brock was in the public eye his values were questioned, based on the idiotic comments he made immediately after the Mir win.
With Brock’s next fight on the horizon, I wouldn’t be surprised if this article was at least partially engineered by the UFC’s public relations people. Its a intelligent tactical move to play up the ‘Brock is a wholesome family man’ story at this time. Had they done it immediately after the Mir win, it would’ve appeared too clearly as p.r. spin. The timing for this piece is perfect.
And even if this article wasn’t the result of the UFC’s p.r. department, its a good story that gives a well-timed polish to Brock’s image.
by Nick Thomas on Oct 8, 2009 12:17 PM EDT reply actions 1 recs
Agreed, note . . . Dana White has a recent Yahoo Sports interview.
Irrepressible UFC president Dana White paid a visit to Yahoo! Sports recently and sat down for a talk on a wide range of subjects, from his opinion on Kimbo Slice to whether he wants his children to become fighters to which WEC fight he most wants to see. Here’s a transcript of the conversation:
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by VeeisAnimated on Oct 8, 2009 12:19 PM EDT up reply actions
Clearly it is
I mentioned in one of the fanshots that Brock is getting the full GW Bush PR treatment. Clearing trees, shootin’ guns — just a good old honest farmboy tryin’ his best.
The PR machine is out in full force, is very blatant and obvious. And sadly, it will work.
"Why am I here? Why does my mind have wings? Why do blue midgets hit me with fish?!" - The Tick
Why do you care about the PR motive behind this?
This same thing goes on all over the business/athletic world.
Arguing on the internet is like being in the special olympics, even when you win you are still retarded.
Why do you care why I care about the PR motive behind this?
:)
I prefer honesty. I know PR works all over the world, but as humans we should try to see through it instead of gulping it down.
"Why am I here? Why does my mind have wings? Why do blue midgets hit me with fish?!" - The Tick
I prefer honesty. I know PR works all over the world, but as humans we should try to see through it instead of gulping it down.
You’re so enlightened. lol
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And most professional PR is based on “honesty”. It really sucks when you lie about something and it comes back and haunts you.
The story seems to be telling the truth to me.
We all have things we don’t wish to talk about. If we were all open books I believe we would all end up like Browning currently. It really sucks when everybody else knows more about you than you know about yourself.
Well is there anyone who doesnt see thru this?
I mean come on man, we all know the reasons for this article so we can take it for what its worth.
Arguing on the internet is like being in the special olympics, even when you win you are still retarded.
Many people. PR works, which is why people do it. They are trying to get people to forget what he really is and embrace this goofy farmboy persona.
Also, everyone knows that commercials lie – but it doesn’t stop them from running out and buying the crap that gets advertised.
"Why am I here? Why does my mind have wings? Why do blue midgets hit me with fish?!" - The Tick
Yeah I know,
but we cant worry ourselves with people who dont realize the PR aspect of these.
Arguing on the internet is like being in the special olympics, even when you win you are still retarded.
You’re just in your “I only care about the fight mood”. I have those once in a while.
You don't look like a Tanaka.
I am always in that mood.
I am much the same way about any other public personas that I dont personally know. I dont have to agree with everything they say, but I certainly dont spend time worrying about what they said much less bitching about it on the internet.
Arguing on the internet is like being in the special olympics, even when you win you are still retarded.
by dnevil001 on Oct 8, 2009 12:50 PM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
Rec'd
Seriously, I don’t get the hate that people have for pro athletes. Most of the things we know of them are of second hand accounts, and the majority of the things they say (whether it’s “good” or “bad”) are not indicative of who they are as a person.
They might say all the right things and be respectful in interviews, but who knows if in real life they’re bunch of pricks. Or they maybe act like a jerk and an asshole on camera, but in private they might be a genuinely decent person.
The point is that if you don’t know them and interact with them personally, who are you to judge?
by m-e-s-s-i-a-h on Oct 8, 2009 2:59 PM EDT up reply actions
A lot of fighters are probably jerks in private (I know I am!). But they don’t go shouting their views at reporters to remind them to publicize those views.
Does that make sense?
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I certainly dont spend time worrying about what they said much less bitching about it on the internet.
But you spend time worrying about what other people bitch about?
"Why am I here? Why does my mind have wings? Why do blue midgets hit me with fish?!" - The Tick
Not really.
I came on here just to read the article & of course it turned into Lesnar bashing so I was asking why we arent leaving this crap alone already?
Arguing on the internet is like being in the special olympics, even when you win you are still retarded.
I didn’t see any Lesnar bashing… did it get deleted?
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Same thing for non-mods.
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Give me a break
Maybe Brock Lesnar is a good guy. I don’t know him, and would never judge somebody just from what I hear them say on TV. But he’s gotta cut loose of this, “I’m a simple, down-home country boy more comfortable around rural people.” Dude is ridiculously rich and spent a large amount of time in the bright lights/big money WWE. Whatever he is, a simple country boy he is no longer, if indeed he ever were to begin with.
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by The Kittitas Kid on Oct 8, 2009 12:36 PM EDT reply actions
Perhaps that he's more comfortable around rural people
because he hasn’t let his success go to his head? I don’t see him manwhoring it around Vegas or doing stupid shit like that. Outside of the “spotlight”, what’s wrong with enjoying a quiet life around other people that enjoy the same thing?
Nothing wrong with it. Just don’t believe that, having survived the world of the WWE and done business with those folks, he can pass himself off as less-than-sophisticated anymore at this point. He’s not a country rube, so I don’t know why he’s aspiring to play the part.
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by The Kittitas Kid on Oct 8, 2009 12:57 PM EDT up reply actions
Who said anything about him being a country rube?
He said he likes the quiet country lifestyle as opposed to the city.
Arguing on the internet is like being in the special olympics, even when you win you are still retarded.
What about him?
He and Larry the Homophobe play to the ignorance and small-mindedness of “good country people” to line their pockets, ala the snake oil salesmen of yesteryear.
That’s fucking hucksterism. What’s more sophisticated than that?
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by The Kittitas Kid on Oct 8, 2009 1:24 PM EDT up reply actions
Hey, you brought him up. I just didn’t find him a compelling counterpoint. He’s a product of this false populism embodied by our former president. You get people to vote (or buy) against their own interests because you’re a guy they’d “like to have a beer with.”
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by The Kittitas Kid on Oct 8, 2009 1:30 PM EDT up reply actions
Wow dude, that makes sense obviously anyone who doesn’t agree with your opinion must be a close minded ignorant country hick. You are a disgrace simple as that.
play nice everyone
no name calling
And please keep the bashing of rural folks to a minimum.
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We country hicks are edumacated! Damn stereotypical bullshit.
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by Leland Roling on Oct 8, 2009 2:51 PM EDT up reply actions
So if he doesn’t enjoy the rural life why did he buy a house in the middle of nowhere and why does he drive a car that probably cost less than most of ours? I don’t think he’s trying to pretend to be a simpleton as you make it sound but I do believe he’s not as interested in all the lights and glamour of the big city, there is just too much evidence to the contrary.
Walla walla walla I'm an idiot.
by ufc4 on Oct 8, 2009 10:21 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions
and would never judge somebody just from what I hear them say on TV
Yeah right…
You don't look like a Tanaka.
I judge him on the words that come out of his mouth.
And they’re despicable.
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We can’t judge Lesnar by what he says and does. That’s not fair.
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And evidently we can’t compare him to a container for vinegar solutions.
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When did I judge somebody based on what they said on TV?
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by The Kittitas Kid on Oct 8, 2009 12:55 PM EDT up reply actions
Before I clicked the link I would have bet a lot of money that I would find negative reaction posts from Jem and Mythbuster

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by Day Man on Oct 8, 2009 1:18 PM EDT reply actions 4 recs
Consistency is how you build up a fan following.
Now where’s the $5 for your Jemaleddin fan club membership?
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I spent it on this:

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by Day Man on Oct 8, 2009 1:23 PM EDT up reply actions 4 recs
Wow – the one with the realistic penis-sword? NICE. I like that his head is bigger than his thighs – did they reuse those from the Corey Hill doll?
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They were going to but the damn things kept breaking.
Walla walla walla I'm an idiot.
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Rec’d!
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I personally think that all comment sections on Brock articles should be closed unless it has other parties involved besides Brock…no matter what side you are on, this endless bickering over one man and his actions is idiotic. He says edgy stuff, he’s not a good ambassador for the sport…he dosen’t have to be.
"You guys are jerking eachother off with some pseudo deep bullshit." - Kid Nate
Edgy?
Hating gay people isn’t edgy. Edgy is a lame emo haircut.
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And lame is you going on and on about a comment he made months ago.
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by Kaleb Kelchner on Oct 8, 2009 1:40 PM EDT up reply actions
Hey, I had to come up with something. lol
"You guys are jerking eachother off with some pseudo deep bullshit." - Kid Nate
by Kaleb Kelchner on Oct 8, 2009 1:43 PM EDT up reply actions
That, dear sir, is your opinion
When he makes a retraction, I’ll change mine.
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Well why don’t you go e-mail Brock, tell him how upset you are, and maybe he’ll give you a “retraction” but the man has a right to his opinion, just as much as you do, and crying over it changes nothing.
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by Kaleb Kelchner on Oct 8, 2009 1:46 PM EDT up reply actions
Who's crying?
I’m complaining. Also, laughing at all the people who take this stuff too seriously. :-)
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So let me get this straight...
Brock is entitled to his opinion about gay people, but Jems isn’t entitled to his opinion about Brock hating gay people?
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I guess not.
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Jem is not entitled to stating that Lesnar is a Douchebag for one… as it violates fighter bashing. Furthermore, the entire honophobic conversation was completely ridiculous considering it led to a lot of comments that were borderline bashful.
If you want to discuss the homophobic commments, stick to homophobic and refrain from “douchebag” and “asshole”. You don’t have to like the guy, but stick to points that are meaningful that aren’t laced with bashing.
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by Leland Roling on Oct 8, 2009 3:27 PM EDT up reply actions
exactly
Jem is more than welcome, in fact he’s encouraged to say “I find Lesnar’s homophobia deeply offensive”.
But he’s not allowed to say “Brock is a douchebag” or “Brock is a stinky pants” etc etc
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yeah
was to kyfm, not you guys. Didn’t know anything as deleted.
kyfm telling him to stop opining about Brocks opinion was my problem.
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Wait, now stinky pants is off limits?
No fun.
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…it led to a lot of comments that were borderline bashful.
BTW bashful? :)

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LOL
Good point. You know you were blushing.
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by Leland Roling on Oct 8, 2009 3:30 PM EDT up reply actions
Ummm
a) I don’t think I said Asshole, did I? I can’t see…
b) I can’t see them but I to my knowledge only one comment said “douchebag,” obviously in an attempt to be over-the-top and only indirectly, and 200 following comments didn’t. The conversation, you’ll note, got progressively LESS vitriolic, not more.
c) if the douchebag comment was the problem, then why did the mods let 200 comments accumulate?
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because we're not able to read every thread in real time as it happens
so sometimes we have to play catch up.
And then we had a discussion about what to do.
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Ah.
Well, sorry for the “douchebag” but I don’t get why 200+ topics that weren’t fighter bashing had to die. Especially the one that offered to buy beers to anyone who showed up at Arrundel Mills mall tonight. :-)
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when we hide/delete a comment
every comment beneath it is collateral damage. sorry about that.
The thread was mostly ok except for all the tail chasing. Two guys going back and forth to no productive conclusion about a non-MMA topic isn’t what we want in the comments.
You should repost your Arrundel Mills comment — that was funny.
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Well, not all of it was tail chasing. There really seem to be a lot of people who consistently:
- fail to see the difference between private beliefs and public statements
- don’t understand that taking a stand against intolerance doesn’t count as intolerance
- haven’t come to grips with the fact that there’s a definite link between anti-gay speech and anti-gay actions
Seriously: don’t you think those people need to be educated?
And I dunno why you’d want my beer offer back on the table: you’ll never make it around the beltway in time.
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I'm all for giving it the old college try
in one or two very well written and thought out comments — or even better a FanPost — but I’m just not very optimistic that you’ll make any headway with anyone.
and yes the Beltway is for all intents and purposes impassable.
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You don’t post on the internet to make a difference.
You dot it because you’re not allowed to punch random strangers in the face.
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by jemaleddin on Oct 8, 2009 4:14 PM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
Unfortunately, I can’t hide individual comments in a threaded comment discussion. For some reason, the functionality does not exist.
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by Leland Roling on Oct 8, 2009 5:20 PM EDT up reply actions
See below!
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Of course he is also entitled.
But bringing it up over & over again? We get it, he disagrees just like the rest of us do.
Arguing on the internet is like being in the special olympics, even when you win you are still retarded.
You're allowed to rebutt over and over, yes?
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Yes I am,
but only in an effort to get you to drop it. Which apparently is not going to happen.
Arguing on the internet is like being in the special olympics, even when you win you are still retarded.
This conversation has gotten too meta.
Besides: you know the rule about trolls: replying to trolls is feeding them.
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NO YOU ARE NOT
this is exactly what we don’t want.
Once everyone has stated their opinion ONCE, please stop.
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Done.
I LOVE JEMALEDDIN even though he hates Lesnar.
Arguing on the internet is like being in the special olympics, even when you win you are still retarded.
And I agree with him.
Done.
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I think the word "edgy" qualifies as lame.
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Irony = The two biggest Brock fans I know are a gay couple.
True story…
Don't argue for the sake of arguing....
by Screwface on Oct 8, 2009 3:35 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions
Just because someone is gay doesn’t mean they are smart.
For example: http://www.logcabin.org/logcabin/home.html
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Why do you hate gay people?
:-)
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Moving On
I’m personally glad Brock is making a move to try to paint himself in a lighter image after his post-fight antics at UFC 100. I think he got a bit too caught up in the excitement after beating the crap out of someone he legitimately didn’t like…but time will tell.
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y'all really should've done your homework
if anyone had bothered to click on the link, Lesnar makes several offensive remarks in it that are entirely new topics for those who don’t like Brock.
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How can you tell?
Hundreds of comments MIGHT have said something about the article… but now we’ll never know.
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if you hadn't started your thread by calling Lesnar names
we’d have let a little bit of it come through.
Here’s the rules — if you want to criticize Lesnar for his track record of homophobic remarks, that’s perfectly appropriate in this thread. But you need to do it without calling him names at the same time.
AND THEN — once you’ve said your piece, others can respond ONCE, and maybe you can post ONE rebuttal.
But a whole thread of DID SO/DID NOT/DID SO/IS TOO/IS NOT is not what we want on the site, sorry.
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Wait, so I should reply to people, but not reply to their replys?
Huh. I’m confused.
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that's the rule with political, religious, philosophical debates
you can’t have them here unless they’re directly on topic.
And even then you get to state your case ONCE and then move on.
We’re not going to solve the “is homophobia bad?” question here at BE.
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Wait, what?
I’m not trying to be an ass here – I really don’t understand.
So articles that try to portray Brock as a nice guy are cool because that’s not fighter-bashing. But responding with a legitimate point to the topic at hand – whether he’s a nice guy or not – is off topic?
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no
your original comment would have been fine if you hadn’t called him a douchebag.
But after that I wouldn’t want to see more than one comment from any one person in response.
A 200 comment thread with three people arguing in circles is neither informative nor entertaining.
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It seemed to keep dnevil pretty occupied… :-)
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Well you were right there with me buddy!! lol
Slow day at wk, what can I say?
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EXACTLY.
But I’m the one that gets the warning. Oh well – gotta take your lumps.
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Well in fairness,
I never cld anyone a d-bag, lol.
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Man, I'm bringing out my shower cap name calling from now on...
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Probably not a bad idea.
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your original comment would have been fine if you hadn’t called him a douchebag.
You guys need the ability to edit comments, to delete certain words in them rather than trash whole threads because of a single word.
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that would be nice
the thread itself was a ridiculously long string of three guys going back and forth saying IS NOT/IS TOO/IS NOT/IS SO/IS NOT
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Whereas the meta discussion deleting it spawned
is SUPER enlightening. :-)
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and I can read the hidden comments
not a single person mentioned any of the new awful things Lesnar said.
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was any of it new? it all looked previous reported.
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I added the quote
that offended me to the main post. It was new to me.
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I dunno - is that offensive?
Without knowing the situation, I can’t tell.
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it was certainly crude
and not how I’d like to see my sister being discussed in the press.
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He was talking about your sister?
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DAMN
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I actually was being serious.
Probably not a rea classy stmt, but I was wondering why it offened Nate so much.
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I'm gonna go on a limb and put words in KN's mouth
and say “no.”
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lol
it didn’t offend me other than I thought it made Brock look like a jerk for saying it.
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In fairness, you did kinda suggest it was your sister
So now I think she’s allowed to call you a d-bag.
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i was talking in general. most times, people don’t go to the link provided and read the whole story. in this case it wasn’t a whole lot, but many times i think it would change what and how people post if they read the whole story. for real. :)
by bdw on Oct 8, 2009 3:30 PM EDT up reply actions
The problem with that story
…for uberfans like the BE community, is that it rehashed old news for far too long before getting to the meat. And when you get there, there’s hardly any meat.
And my criticism of the article stand: it’s an obvious attempt to whitewash Brock’s public persona. Good for him and all, but it doesn’t present a complete picture, while trying to give the illusion that it does.
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TO THE BLOODY ELBOW COMMUNITY
Anyone I’ve offended in the greater Baltimore Washington region gets a beer on me at the Duclaw Brewing Company bar at Arrundel Mills tonight at 6:30.* I’ll be there with some friends having a drink before seeing Zombieland.
Brock Lesnar is welcome as well, but since he doesn’t have a computer, I doubt he’d show. (Can I call him a luddite?)
- Offer valid where and when I see fit.
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And the short form is JEMAL! All this Jems business makes you all sound crazy. :-)
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One beer? Weak.
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by Leland Roling on Oct 8, 2009 5:22 PM EDT up reply actions
There would have been additional drinks available
…for the super offended. Anybody willing to stand up on a table and shout, “Jemal offended me so much that I need a beer to wash the sand out of my vagina!”
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Despite the whole back and forth we’ve had, you’re gonna love the shit out of Zombieland. :)
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by Kaleb Kelchner on Oct 8, 2009 9:52 PM EDT up reply actions
BEST MOVIE OF THE YEAR?
Or GREATEST OF ALL TIME?!?
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Can you mail my brewski?
HAHA! :)
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Well, their stuff is all on tap, so I could try pouring it into an envelope....
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This is 100% worth a try
I’ll send you a SASE for the next time this offer goes down. Please offend more people so I can have more beer!
"That feeling after you win and they raise your hand... it's like you have this energy that releases from your body, and it's like you mingle with the cosmos, and you feel omnipotent"
THAT IS A DEAL
Seriously: I should do a BE-BEER tour of North America (and a hop over to the Philippines for Weo^3). Everybody I made cry gets a beer on me.
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Personally
I neither like him or dislike him. I think he says and does stupid things but whom among us doesn’t or hasn’t? I can see why people dislike him but I generally root for the guy now but I wouldn’t be upset if he lost.
"I will do nothing lightly. When I walk, I will walk heavily. When I fight, I will fight with conviction. When I speak, I will speak strongly. When I love, I will love with everything"
I have no problem w/trash talking in sports
as long as you can back it up. Mir talked trash, got his head cracked and Brock, verbally, gave him the business after the fight. If you dont walk the walk, you should expect someone to call you out on it.
"Let's kick some names and take some a$$"
by StayGoldLikeFlair on Oct 8, 2009 6:16 PM EDT reply actions
I couldn’t agree more.
"I will do nothing lightly. When I walk, I will walk heavily. When I fight, I will fight with conviction. When I speak, I will speak strongly. When I love, I will love with everything"
Oh And
WOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO!
"I will do nothing lightly. When I walk, I will walk heavily. When I fight, I will fight with conviction. When I speak, I will speak strongly. When I love, I will love with everything"
My opinion on the whole post fight antics on Brocks part has been this…Brock is a big ass country boy who knows how to fight. His opponent (who beat him handily) talks phenomenal amounts of trash. Big country boy smashes his face, and gives him a piece of his mind.
Brock never was painted to be some professional guy who loves the sport, theres no reason we should really expect him to be. Now I’m not saying thats a good thing for him to do…but we shouldn’t act like he betrayed us. lol
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by Kaleb Kelchner on Oct 8, 2009 9:55 PM EDT up reply actions
I know I've defended Lesar...
a few times in already in this thread, but wanted to get my true opinion out there. I DISLIKE LESNAR! I dislike Lesnar cause he’s barely older than me, seemingly has a happy marriage to a Playboy cover girl, has a family, already has a more than a few sporting related championship of which he may or may not have deserved, is many times richer than my unemployed broke self, and he did most of this with a penis tattooed on his chest. Yes I hate him! (Just misquoting Doc Holliday here, I don’t really hate him).

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