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DREAM 11 Delivers Entertaining Battles, Outstanding Performances

Bibiano-fernandes_mediumHardcore fans were treated to one of the most impressive DREAM shows to date yesterday morning as DREAM 11 not only surprised us with some unbelievably entertaining bouts, but it also brought about the nostalgic feeling of PRIDE with excellent production, quality lead-ins, grand entrances, and a shrilling Lenne Hardt. From the DREAM Lightweight championship bout between Shinya Aoki and Joachim Hansen to the Featherweight Grand Prix Finals match-ups, DREAM 11 is definitely on my list in this year’s favorites.

One of the more surprising stories at the event was the dominance displayed by a rejuvenated Hiroyuki Takaya as he punched his way into the Grand Prix tournament finals. Takaya had won his opening round battles with Jong Won Kim and Yoshiro Maeda, but many fans had referenced his recent losses in the WEC against Cub Swanson and Leonard Garcia as signs that the "Streetfight Bancho" had simply lost his luster. Fortunately for those of us watching, we saw a patient and precise Takaya put it all out on the line.

Takaya defeated Hideo Tokoro in their semifinal showdown via TKO in the second round after both men nearly finished each other in the first round. Tokoro’s knee and subsequent combination of punches put Takaya into a daze, but Tokoro’s untimely guard pull gave Takaya the chance to crush Tokoro only seconds later. Saved by the bell, Tokoro was caught again at the beginning of the second round, ending his run in the FWGP.

On the other side of the bracket, tournament favorite Joe Warren battled Brazilian jiu-jitsu black belt Bibiano Fernandes in a heated battle of words outside of the ring and a relatively quick match inside the ring. Fernandes succumbed to a powerful takedown from Warren early, but he wrangled his arm into an armbar submission. Warren argued that he didn’t tap, but he was saved from having pins stuck in his arm for the next six months.

Most fans didn’t give Takaya much of a chance against the BJJ prowess of Bibiano Fernandes in the final, but Takaya showed excellent takedown defense, intelligent submission defense, and the same precision striking game he showed in the semifinal battle with Hideo Tokoro. While Takaya was unable to continually keep Bibiano off his back, he did manage to defend submission attempts fairly easily.  His only mistake, which ultimately may have swayed the decision in Bibiano’s favor, was leaving his hand down to a Bibiano counter in the second round that dropped him. It was a truly entertaining war that ended in an absolute slugfest to determine the winner of the Featherweight strap.

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I’m not in complete agreement with the judging of the final, but it wasn’t a robbery or infeasible decision. Takaya’s flurry of blows that landed at the end of the fight should have given him this win as I believe he won the second round, but Bibiano’s ground work in the first round with the knockdown in the second round are something to consider. Both men fought admirably, and Takaya made a mark for himself with his performance.

Quick Points

How long will Bibiano Fernandes hang onto the title? It’s tough to say, but Norifumi "Kid" Yamamoto could once again be a name thrown into the hat. They have fought previously, but Kid’s striking game would be a much bigger threat than anything Takaya offered. DREAM may be looking to put a Japanese fighter into the mix for the title as well.

Shinya Aoki’s last second victory over Joachim Hansen was absolutely mesmerizing to watch as Hansen knew that he was in deep trouble in the minutes leading to his escape attempt. Interestingly enough, the judging had Hansen up in the first round due to his defense and damage from the bottom. It’d be nice to see that happen in the United States, huh?

Tatsuya Kawajiri is likely Shinya Aoki’s next opponent, but as Chris Nelson pointed out – Aoki would like to take some time off. Kawajiri will be a load for Aoki, but Aoki always surprises me with how deceptively great he is at gaining takedowns and top control. It should be interesting to see Aoki’s submission ability from his back along with the possibility of using his judo skills to put Kawajiri on his back.

Ikuhisa Minowa’s performance against Hong Man Choi was one of the more entertaining battles of the evening simply because it was almost comical to watch. While it obviously wasn’t a fight that was relevant in any way, we must all admit that Minowa’s powerful Mohawk-rat tail mullet exudes awesomeness.

Michael Shiavello and Guy Mezger were at their absolute best at DREAM 11. I have been critical of both in the past, but Shiavello has won me over with his K-1 and DREAM broadcasts. Mezger, while a bit hesitant in his analysis, is still much more honest than most commentators. While I had problems with his MFC commentary due to the sheer ridiculousness of his judging scores of some of the fights, he was much better at DREAM 11. HDNet has a solid team for their broadcasts overseas that I actually look forward to hearing from.

On a personal note, I watched this event with the surround sound blaring, and it gave me chills of PRIDE. The entrances, lead-ins, great commentary, and overall feel of the event reminded me so much of the PRIDE-era, and it was an awesome start to the day. If you have the chance to do so, gather up all your friends, darken the lights, crank up the sound, and watch the replay on HDNet on Friday night.
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The fights were good. I stopped watching these live at DREAM 9, not because of the fights, but because I hate that there is at least an hour and a half to two hours of filler content before the fights, between fights, and after fights. I’d rather wait and watch them than participate in the spectacle. Nevertheless, I enjoyed the fights as always.

by Ahhhoki on Oct 7, 2009 11:07 AM EDT reply actions  

I was disappointed

the Aoki fight was marred by the reffing, as was the FW finale and the Warren fight. Warren didn’t tap. Takaya got 2 restarts when Fernandes had his back.
The superhulk stuff was just depressing.
Kawajiri and Sakuraba had squash matches.
Far from what I expect from the top Japanese promotion.

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by Kid Nate on Oct 7, 2009 11:34 AM EDT reply actions   2 recs

You’re tough to please then. Honestly, Warren’s arm was straight fucked. I don’t understand the problem with the stoppage at all.

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by Leland Roling on Oct 7, 2009 11:39 AM EDT up reply actions   1 recs

-when we watched the reply in real time last night, it was really clear warren tapped

-the two restarts on takaya’s back were good restarts since Fernades was doing nothing but stalling and not advancing position.

- superhulk is awesome, just for the graphics alone… people forget, people fighting can be fun too!

- i want a crusher t-shirt.

- i REALLY want to see Kimbo vs Bob Sapp one day in Japan.

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by ekc on Oct 7, 2009 1:00 PM EDT up reply actions  

A restart from the back is never a good idea. That’s positional dominance and you don’t restart fights from back control or full mount.

Other than that, I really enjoyed the card. Aoki is a big baby and needs to shut up and there’s a clear bias towards Japanese fighters, but I knew those things going in and I loved the show.

I STILL poop rainbows.

by Blackout612 on Oct 7, 2009 1:02 PM EDT up reply actions   1 recs

if you dont advance position or go for a finish, you get the restart… and he wasnt really even trying, he was just stalled against the corner pad, and the ref, shimada, gave him plenty of warnings..

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by ekc on Oct 7, 2009 1:08 PM EDT up reply actions  

Honestly, there’s a little bit of both aspects going on here. Clearly Fernandes was not accomplishing except for holding the position. And of course the referees are going to have a bias whether they intend to or not – especially considering the archaic view that a lot of Japanese individuals still hold regarding foreigners. I’m not saying Shimada is corrupt or bigoted but I think the fact that it was Japanese vs. Brazilian made it a little easier for him to step in and stand them up.

by Ahhhoki on Oct 7, 2009 2:17 PM EDT up reply actions  

this shouldn’t be acceptable at the highest levels of mma, right? it makes them unaccountable and detracts from their legitamacy

by cagefightonacid on Oct 7, 2009 4:02 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions  

- i want a crusher t-shirt.

Sherdog might have some soon, from what I’m told…

by Chris Nelson on Oct 7, 2009 1:18 PM EDT up reply actions  

I love the "Too cool for the room" people who can't just enjoy a good fight card.

You know what you’re getting when you watch Dream. They’re gonna have squash matches and weird shit, but that just makes it all the better.

by Patrick79x on Oct 7, 2009 1:04 PM EDT up reply actions  

I also think the Warren stoppage was justified. He cried out in pain, which in a lot of circles is equivalent to a tap. On top of that, he wasn’t going to get out of it. He’s lucky that Aoki isn’t the kind of grappler who will instantly break a guy’s arm. Lately there have been a lot of near-submissions and I think it’s because grapplers are too gentle. Obviously injuries are a serious threat to career longevity but so is losing.

Of course the Super Hulk tournament was a joke; the only thing even worth mentioning is Sokoudjou’s continuing lack of self-control.

Squash matches are nothing new, even to the UFC (Anderson vs. Forrest?). Reffing is always questionable and often you see the Japanese guys tell the referee not to move them or whatever. I do not think it really had much of an impact on the result of Aoki’s fight.

by Ahhhoki on Oct 7, 2009 2:12 PM EDT up reply actions  

I have to agree.

Don’t get me wrong, there were some great fights, but when the card is this long, it’s hard to remember the great one’s when looking at the whole thing.

I would like them a lot more if they would get rid of the squash matches and crazy shit like the super hulk. Soko smashing some guy and Minowaman doing his thing just don’t do it for me.

by Phildo on Oct 7, 2009 12:11 PM EDT up reply actions  

i thought i was the only one who felt that way
the Aoki fight was marred by the reffing, as was the FW finale and the Warren fight. Warren didn’t tap. Takaya got 2 restarts when Fernandes had his back.
The superhulk stuff was just depressing.
Kawajiri and Sakuraba had squash matches.
Far from what I expect from the top Japanese promotion.

those were my thoughts EXACTLY, i’m glad i’m not losing my mind

by cagefightonacid on Oct 7, 2009 12:55 PM EDT up reply actions  

i thought dream 11 was awesome!!!

on my second viewing however, i realized Aoki was doing much better then i thought, and wouldve won the decision regardless.. my first viewing had Hansan winning.

and i am even more shocked that Takaya didnt win that decision… the final onslaught was incredible!

and watching minowaman is the freaking best ever… at one point in the match, Choi was on his kness throwing strikes, and he was the same height has minowaman.

"I’m not going to stop yelling because that would mean, I lost the fight!"-Kenny Powers
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by ekc on Oct 7, 2009 12:43 PM EDT reply actions   1 recs

other notes, even if warren didnt tap, which we all thought he clearly did, you better at least not look like you are tapping when you are in a DEEEEP arm bar against a BJJ black belt

- aoki deserves credit for not bailing on that fight after receiving two upkick to the face, after the groin shot… to people who thought he was faking a groin shot, i am just confused.

- i hope they fight a 4th time.

- i love japanesse mma because you can watch every single match, when was the last time any american promotion let you do that.

- I REALLY WANT TO GO BACK TO JAPAN for New Years.

"I’m not going to stop yelling because that would mean, I lost the fight!"-Kenny Powers
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by ekc on Oct 7, 2009 12:52 PM EDT up reply actions  

People just like to hate on Aoki because he’s goofy-looking, doesn’t fight in the UFC and can’t strike for shit.

As far as the Warren tap, I agree.

I wish I could watch every fight on UFC cards like you can see every DREAM match. But the problem is that of PPV availability; nobody is going to bring out a PPV that extends into 2, 3-hour blocks. I mean, I would watch it but it would be hard for people to regularly pay $50-$100 to see a dozen fights a month. That said, the UFC still puts on prelims whether they are seen on television or not (they’re usually pretty easy to find online anyway, unless it’s obscure and you’re in a hurry), and thus more fighters are given the opportunity to earn a paycheck and experience without reference to whether or not it’s being seen live. In DREAM, they pretty much bypass prelims altogether because they do not have the roster to put on shows like that.

by Ahhhoki on Oct 7, 2009 2:23 PM EDT up reply actions  

I'll admit I hate on Aoki a bit....

but it’s not because of the way he looks or that he doesn’t fight in the ufc…. it’s more about him calling out much more well rounded fighters knowing damn well they won’t ever fight. I’d love to see him in the ufc, rainbow pants and all!

by cagefightonacid on Oct 7, 2009 4:09 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions  

Those who voted the latter two options are fucking hopeless.

by Meshuggeth on Oct 7, 2009 1:02 PM EDT reply actions  

God forbid people have an opinion that doesn’t match the almighty meshuggeth.

by Phildo on Oct 7, 2009 1:14 PM EDT up reply actions   1 recs

What do you want from MMA?

If this event did not impress, then few eill.

by Meshuggeth on Oct 7, 2009 9:26 PM EDT up reply actions  

It was a good event, but I’m not going to give it the requisite 17000 awesome points everyone just gives for having cool entrances and being done by someone that isn’t Zuffa.

It would probably be awesome if they would have kept out the squash matches or if the Super Hulk would have been close to entertaining, but it wasn’t, to me, and that’s my opinion, and apparently one that 1/3 of the people voting here had a similar opinion.

by Phildo on Oct 7, 2009 9:46 PM EDT up reply actions  

Can you add an option to the poll that says “Sleeping”?

Keep firing Assholes!

The Leafs are back!

by Ubernoober on Oct 7, 2009 1:15 PM EDT reply actions  

The “nope” option could fill that void.

I STILL poop rainbows.

by Blackout612 on Oct 7, 2009 1:37 PM EDT up reply actions  

Bibiano is the Brazilian twin of Paul Daley. They look exactly the same.

by I Can't Feel My Face on Oct 7, 2009 1:27 PM EDT reply actions  

Did DREAM 11 deliver for you?

Umm, fuck yeah!! DREAM really did come through yesterday and I agree with Leland that it actually did have a semi Pride feel with all its grandness. Takeya made a new fan in me yesterday. Aoki with a sweet last sec sub. Freak show Choi and red trunks wrestler guy ;P I dunno I just really enjoyed it and was very happy that I took the day off just to watch it. Takeya, “dat guy hav heart, das a good guy, dat guy”.

I can’t wait ‘till DREAM 12. It’s gonna be insane!

SHOGUN WILL SLAY THE DRAGON!!!
SHOGUN TO BE THE NEW LHW CHAMP!!!
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by xFenixKnightx on Oct 7, 2009 1:44 PM EDT reply actions  

I guess you really have to accept the freakshow match-ups for what their worth… entertainment. A lot of people in this thread expect WAY too much out of completely non-relevant bouts that are purely for watching a little guy run around a huge giant.

I loved it, I loved the show, I loved the theatrics. It was awesome, and for all the faults that Mezger and Shiavello get for other shows, their own commentary actually added to the theatrics of the event. It was a fun event for sure. People are just expecting way too much from DREAM in comparison to the UFC. UFC doesn’t have those theatrics. ENJOY THE FUN PEOPLE.

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by Leland Roling on Oct 7, 2009 2:22 PM EDT up reply actions   1 recs

The UFC has plenty of theatrics. It’s just American Theatrics and is therefore more difficult to notice (I use “American” loosely as I know there are a lot of fans elsewhere). It’s easy to watch something Japanese and say “Wow, that’s a lot of weird shit going on.” But we see Dana White running around swearing every chance he gets; pimping Kimbo Slice to the point of dishonest marketing; the meritocracy that is the UFC match-making “system” that leaves talented fighters out to dry because they can’t draw – I again revert to the example of guys like Werdum, Okami (he’s also had a string of bad luck with injuries and whatnot), and Machida (until he actually got the shot).

by Ahhhoki on Oct 7, 2009 2:27 PM EDT up reply actions  

Forgot to finish my thought.

We see all that and perceive it as the norm for how a business like this should be run. But the fact remains that both the UFC and DREAM have a long way to go before they are fully legitimate sport promotions. Let’s just leave it be and take it all with a grain of salt. Some matches don’t mean anything. Some do.

Oh, and nepotism might be a better word than meritocracy.

by Ahhhoki on Oct 7, 2009 2:29 PM EDT up reply actions  

There was no hint of saying DREAM would bring about a legitimate sports context to the argument.

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by Leland Roling on Oct 7, 2009 2:30 PM EDT up reply actions  

Some matches have a legitimate sports context. Maybe I’m just naive.

by Ahhhoki on Oct 7, 2009 2:33 PM EDT up reply actions  

No, the problem is that I didn’t bring that into the argument at all. All I’m saying is that people are expecting the Super Hulk tournament to be good or something, and blur their vision of what the event actually was with those crap fights and the Melbor fight.

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by Leland Roling on Oct 7, 2009 2:38 PM EDT up reply actions  

The UFC has no theatrics whatsoever. You can call it what you like, but they are non-existent. Maybe it’s a battle of patience among fans because they hate sitting through all the introductions and theatrical aspects of the event, but the UFC doesn’t even compare, nor do they probably want to.

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by Leland Roling on Oct 7, 2009 2:29 PM EDT up reply actions  

Come on. You think that the way Dana White acts (while perhaps real) is anything less than theatrical? Look at the whole concept of TUF. Kicking windows out and eating piss (or semen or whatever) and destroying furniture.

by Ahhhoki on Oct 7, 2009 2:33 PM EDT up reply actions  

And I’m not saying there is any way in which the two are similarly theatrical. DREAM takes it several steps further to be sure. But my primary point is that it’s important to look past that and simply be entertained. I thought the fights were decent in spite of a few minor mishaps.

by Ahhhoki on Oct 7, 2009 2:37 PM EDT up reply actions  

Completely different in what I’m referring to.

I’m referring to the actual event, not lead-up marketing strategy to talk a load of shit.

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by Leland Roling on Oct 7, 2009 2:38 PM EDT up reply actions  

Couldn’t agree more!

SHOGUN WILL SLAY THE DRAGON!!!
SHOGUN TO BE THE NEW LHW CHAMP!!!
Mike Goldberg: "You know Joe, When Matt and his brother Mark Hughes were growing up, they would pound each other behind the barn."

by xFenixKnightx on Oct 7, 2009 5:01 PM EDT up reply actions  

"Hardcore fans were treated to one of the most impressive DREAM shows to date…"

Damned with faint praise.

Although detractors decry (MMA) as a brutal, bloody form of human cockfighting, aficionados know it is a brutal, bloody, totally fucking awesome form of human cockfighting. -The Onion

by The Kittitas Kid on Oct 7, 2009 2:01 PM EDT reply actions  

havent seen the whole show yet....since i work and cant afford not slleping during the week day

but i cant wait to watch the rerun even after i know who the winners and the losers were. i always enjoy Japanese shows. they can pull off some stuff…that you would never see it UFC. so anyway cant wait for the rerun on HDnet :)

by 1WAYtiket on Oct 7, 2009 2:47 PM EDT reply actions  

DREAM 11

I can’t believe the guy who sang “Chocolate Rain” won the featherweight tournament.

...Behold, a pale horse. The man that sat upon it was Wieters, and hell followed with him.

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by Brett Jones on Oct 7, 2009 3:28 PM EDT reply actions  

Hansen clearly needs to work his takedown defense. I love him for being the kind of fighter who can hang wherever the fight goes, and I was really impressed that he nearly latched onto an arm in the opening round. But if he’d been able to stop the Aoki takedowns, or shrug off a handful of the clinch attempts, it would have been his fight to lose.

by JRN on Oct 7, 2009 4:08 PM EDT reply actions  

you stop the takedown, then you get one of these

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by ekc on Oct 7, 2009 4:20 PM EDT up reply actions  

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