Shooto Fight Between Sam Hoger and Alistair Overeem in the Works?
by Anton Tabuena on Oct 5, 2009 9:38 PM EDT
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Promoted from the FanPosts by Kid Nate.
About a week ago, Sam Hoger says that he could have a big fight coming up:
Potential huge fight in October. This could be a barn burner!
Now, his latest tweets suggest that it could be against the Strikeforce Heavyweight Champion, Alistair Overeem (29-11):
Overeem and I may have a date!
...
Overeem and I MAY have a date.....it is not confirmed guys don't ruin it for me now.
Inside fights also confirms this, saying that the fight could take place in Shooto:
Sam Hoger has tentatively agreed to face Strikeforce heavyweight champion Alistair Overeem at an upcoming Shooto event.
Our source informed us that both fighters have verbally agreed to the deal. Bout agreements have not been distributed but are expected shortly.
Sam Hoger (8-4), is a TUF Alum who has notable losses to Lyoto Machida, Rashad Evans and Stephan Bonnar, which of course, isn't something to be ashamed off. While he is coming off two straight victories, he could still be in over his head competing against a very dangerous and much bigger fighter in Alistair Overeem.
Alistair Overeem's recent success has been mostly from his impressive run at the K-1 circuit, but if this fight does pan out, will he go from Gary Goodridge, to Sam Hoger, then Fedor Emelianenko? Hmm...
UPDATE (by Kid Nate): I'm not sure what the implications of this fight are for Alistair's defense of his Strikeforce belt, but Scott Coker has to feel somewhat similar to the way Mirko Cro Cop felt during his last fight with Overeem.
Note from Chris Nelson: This is probably a bout for Golden Glory’s 10th Anniversary on October 17th, not Shooto Japan. As user Venom77 points out, "Ultimate Glory events are sometimes referred as Shooto Glory here. Martijn de Jong is both a matchmaker for Glory and Shooto Europe president."
UPDATE 2: mmaweekly says it's gonna be at Glory 11 in Amsterdam:
The 29-year-old Strikeforce heavyweight champion is expected to face original "Ultimate Fighter" alum Sam Hoger at Glory 11 on Oct. 17 in his home city of Amsterdam.
Triple Crown Fighter's Steve Ruisch, who brokered the deal for Hoger, told MMAWeekly.com Monday afternoon that the deal was "95 percent finalized."
UPDATE 3: According to Sam Hoger, the fight is off:
Damn.... It's not coming through with the Alister deal right now. Looks like it's getting pushed back.
Alistair Overeem will instead fight Tony Sylvester (11-2).
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At least Overeem is fighting MMA instead of K-1 if this fight does happen. Hoger isn’t really the toughest of competition out there though.
by chrisbboy82 on Oct 5, 2009 9:44 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
I read this earlier.. via the source. I hope it isn’t true.
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by Leland Roling on Oct 5, 2009 9:45 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Yeah, this will really shut up all his critics who say he hasn’t fought anyone to deserve to be ranked in the top 10.
by nottheface on Oct 5, 2009 9:59 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions 0 recs
This also proves that he’s not ducking US athletic commissions.
by cyph on Oct 5, 2009 10:12 PM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
You’re right – nobody will knock Sam Hoger after this!
by MMAEruption on Oct 6, 2009 8:30 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
i should've posted it as soon as i read his tweet,
but that was around 2:30am and i was a too sleepy to finish the draft I made.. haha.
by Anton Tabuena on Oct 5, 2009 10:03 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
step into my office…
What a Fashion Don’t! That’s like your dick wearing socks with sandals.
by nandez44 on Oct 6, 2009 3:11 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
It’s true, at least to this point. Sam has verbally agreed to the bout and spent a lot of time today watching tapes. No bout agreement signed yet, but it’s allegedly on the way.
I’m going over to his gym tomorrow to chat with him about the fight. I’ll see what I can find out.
by jbotter on Oct 5, 2009 10:26 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Well according to Hoger's twitter page-
he is responsible for the boom of the UFC so he deserves it! lol
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by dnevil001 on Oct 6, 2009 2:34 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Somebody get a bodybag ready for Hoger. He is definitely going to sleep.
by mburtoni on Oct 5, 2009 10:01 PM EDT via mobile reply actions 0 recs
I really hope this isn’t true.
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by Deo Wade on Oct 5, 2009 10:06 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
it is not confirmed guys don’t ruin it for me now.
MAYBE if it’s not confirmed, and you’re worried that something might “ruin it”, you shouldn’t POST IT ON YOUR TWITTER.
by woooburn on Oct 5, 2009 10:10 PM EDT reply actions 3 recs
aww man, wtf?
This fool better be talking about valentjin.
Aint nobody really clamoring to see sam hogar fight anybody much less alistair.
by willydynamite on Oct 5, 2009 10:28 PM EDT via mobile reply actions 0 recs
Willy Dynamite? I though you learned your lesson and quit the pimpin’ game?
by nottheface on Oct 5, 2009 10:34 PM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
i still have my gold suit, baby!
by willydynamite on Oct 5, 2009 11:13 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions 0 recs
You two are going to love Black Dynamite.
by nottheface on Oct 6, 2009 1:58 AM EDT via mobile up reply actions 0 recs
It appears Overeem is doing everything in his power not to defend that SF belt. Weak nuts.
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by pud333 on Oct 5, 2009 10:46 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Note from Chris Nelson – This is probably a bout for Golden Glory’s 10th Anniversary on October 17th, not Shooto Japan. As user Venom77 points out, “Ultimate Glory events are sometimes referred as Shooto Glory here. Martijn de Jong is both a matchmaker for Glory and Shooto Europe president.”
http://www.bloodyelbow.com/2009/10/5/1071491/alistair-overeem-set-to-take-on
by Chris Nelson on Oct 5, 2009 11:01 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
oh shit, sorry Chris, i didn’t know it was posted already.. but in my defense i had this on my drafts before the inside fights story came out.. haha. Sorry dude.. I’ll add that to the post. :)
by Anton Tabuena on Oct 5, 2009 11:04 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
All good yo. Just figured I’d chime in and was too lazy to retype.
by Chris Nelson on Oct 5, 2009 11:18 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
so is this one of those “previous commitment” fights he mentioned a few months ago? if so, i don’t see why it would change his standing with strikeforce, as some have suggested.
by woooburn on Oct 6, 2009 12:20 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
The champion clauses in the UFC contracts look pretty smart now eh?
by Dropkick434 on Oct 5, 2009 11:01 PM EDT reply actions 1 recs
Strikeforce is on a mission...
to prove the UFC business model correct.
by Razreshat on Oct 6, 2009 8:31 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
I expect he’ll be stripped of the belt, if this is true. Laaaame. I really want to…well, okay, I really want to see AO against the UFC’S heavyweights, but I’d settle for him fighting SF’s heavyweights, too.
Oh what the HELL, Hoger fights at 205. Make that any heavyweight.
Or anyone in MMA, I guess. I’m not picky, I just wanna see the dude back in MMA :\
by Tedd Welch on Oct 5, 2009 11:25 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Hoger’s not fighting at 205 now. He’s a heavyweight. Not sure of his current weight, but he’s been bulking up for the past year to try and make a run in that division.
by jbotter on Oct 5, 2009 11:28 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Daaaamn, wasn't aware!
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by Tedd Welch on Oct 5, 2009 11:29 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
It’s a tough fight for Sam, no matter what the weight class. Getting it to the ground is his only hope of survival.
by jbotter on Oct 5, 2009 11:31 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
saw him at NAGA in Dallas this May.
He was a shit load bigger than I expected. 6’2", maybe 225 I’d guess.
He’s still got no chance against Overeem. He also seemed like a genuinely nice guy, had time for anyone that wanted to talk to him. Always smiling too.
by Headkick on Oct 6, 2009 1:19 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
At least we get to see Sam Hoger get BTFU.
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by Mike Fagan on Oct 5, 2009 11:28 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Almost as much fun as reading his comments about Machida on the UG.
A man should never waste an opportunity to keep his mouth shut.
by iiowyn on Oct 6, 2009 12:13 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Inevitably if he sees a thread about Machida he belittles him and says he is not that good of a fighter.
A man should never waste an opportunity to keep his mouth shut.
by iiowyn on Oct 6, 2009 10:10 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Yup. The next comment always makes mention of that.
A man should never waste an opportunity to keep his mouth shut.
by iiowyn on Oct 7, 2009 12:39 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
If it is the Golden Glory show I don’t feel too upset about it, he stated awhile back he was going to fight in that before returning to Strikeforce. Plus we get to see Hoger destroyed.
by midwestbred on Oct 5, 2009 11:30 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Who in the hell follows Sam Hoger's twitter?
Seriously.
by Dexerion on Oct 6, 2009 12:19 AM EDT reply actions 0 recs
How many tweets (updates?) do you get a day? If you follow ~230, that’s crapload. How many non-MMA?
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by themachiavellian on Oct 6, 2009 1:39 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
only a few people not from MMA haha. tons of tweets.. when i wake up, the 200 tweet limit from tweetdeck makes me miss a couple of them..
by Anton Tabuena on Oct 6, 2009 1:42 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Damn, I only follow 16 people and feel like I get swamped with updates. I can’t even think of 200 people I would want to follow (though since you do the Tweet-Tweet, it’s part of your job, I guess).
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by themachiavellian on Oct 6, 2009 1:49 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
I don’t know what the UFC would do without all these other half ass promotions making them look good.
by Razzel on Oct 6, 2009 12:33 AM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Another fearsome opponent for our Fedor killer.
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by Ubernoober on Oct 6, 2009 1:36 AM EDT reply actions 0 recs
I’m not sure what the implications of this fight are for Alistair’s defense of his Strikeforce belt, but Scott Coker has to feel somewhat similar to the way Mirko Cro Cop felt during his last fight with Overeem.
Alistair had been scheduled to fight on this show before he signed with Strikeforce. From what I’ve read on mixfight.nl forum Cocker knows about it and even helped in finding an opponent for Overeem.
This is the 10th anniversary of Golden Glory show and Alistair is one of their best fighters. They wanted him to fight Gilbert Yvel, however Yvel’s management rejected the fight. Golden Glory was struggling to find any decent opponnent, because they don’t have as much money as best organisations and Alistair is a scary dude. That’s why he is fighting Hoger in Holland.
People should take the above facts into consideration before they start debating about Strikeforce/Alistair/contract/champion’s cluase issues. He’s not ducking anyone, he’s not affraid of drug tests or Fedor. He’s just fighting on the very important show for his management team against the best opponent they could find for him.
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by Venom77 on Oct 6, 2009 4:33 AM EDT reply actions 1 recs
Why not just do an exhibition match with Mousasi?
'He built his whole reputation as a waffle house chef. They’ve been serving him up ham and eggs with a side of canned tomatoes' - Don Frye on Fedor Emelianenko
by Well Read Idiot on Oct 6, 2009 8:51 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Because Golden Glory is not M-1.
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by Venom77 on Oct 6, 2009 8:53 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Really?
'He built his whole reputation as a waffle house chef. They’ve been serving him up ham and eggs with a side of canned tomatoes' - Don Frye on Fedor Emelianenko
by Well Read Idiot on Oct 8, 2009 9:40 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Yeah, all this business about Overeem violating his contract or being stripped the Strikeforce title is crazytalk. It’s been known for a long time that he would be participating in this event. The only real news is his (possible) opponent.
by Chris Nelson on Oct 6, 2009 1:35 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Yeah, every information about Alistair fighting outside of Strikeforce causes panic on the mma forums.
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by Venom77 on Oct 6, 2009 1:55 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Hoger looks like a tank-ass in the pic with the article
I hope AO makes his dimples connect.
Every time I see this fuckin guy he looks like he’s running for class president.
What a Fashion Don’t! That’s like your dick wearing socks with sandals.
by nandez44 on Oct 6, 2009 3:15 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
"it is not confirmed guys don't ruin it for me now"
somebody please ruin it
by cagefightonacid on Oct 6, 2009 10:05 PM EDT reply actions 1 recs
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