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Anderson Silva Will Not Be Able to Fight Vitor Belfort at UFC 108

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MMA Junkie talks to Ed Soares:

"The latest is he's not fighting Jan. 2," Soares said. "That's not going to happen. He won't be ready."

Silva recently had bone spurs removed from his right elbow, and the rehabilitation necessary following the procedure means Silva won't be ready to defend his title in a proposed UFC 108 matchup with Vitor Belfort.

As for when Silva will be ready to fight again, Soares said nothing is yet certain.

"We have to wait and see," Soares said. "Anderson went back to Brazil, and he's continuing his physical therapy there. But there's no set date yet."

Those who have been following the saga of Anderson Silva's elbow may take a more cynical perspective.

Zak Woods had summed up the saga pretty well a couple of weeks back:

MMA Live was the first to report that Anderson Silva would undergo elbow surgery. Then Kevin Iole talked to Silva's manger, Ed Soares, who said that Silva did not need elbow surgery. Then UFC president, Dana White, confirmed that Anderson would in fact undergo surgery.

Are you dizzy yet?

Despite the surgery it was then announced that Silva would defend his middleweight title against Vitor Belfort at UFC 108.

Now add one more installment to the tale.

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Black House strikes again!

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by Orcus on Oct 31, 2009 4:41 PM EDT reply actions  

oi vay, the saga continues… might as well put Mardquardt up with Belfort then.

by pop_gun_war on Oct 31, 2009 4:41 PM EDT reply actions  

Soares will deny it all.

by dancingChicken on Oct 31, 2009 4:48 PM EDT reply actions  

Maybe he’s going to help prep Machida for his next fight against Shogun

JK :P

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by Orcus on Oct 31, 2009 4:57 PM EDT up reply actions  

I don’t know the details of UFC contracts (maybe someone can fill me in here), but are PPV % based on if you are main event of the card? If the Lesnar v. Carwin fight happens at UFC 108, it would have bumped the Silva fight down. If that is indeed how the PPV % salaries are determined, then this whole mess smells like bullshit. Silva could be holding out until he is main event on a card.

I also wouldn’t put it past Dana White ‘forcing’ the fight off the card and rescheduling it for a later event – because lets be honest, there is a lack of primetime fights on the horizon. (This could also be said about moving the Lesnar fight from UFC 106 – White could have thought the Griffin/Oritz fight can carry its own event). More likely than not these conspiracies are false, but there are too many conflicting reports to not make you wonder whats really going on.

by neyvit on Oct 31, 2009 5:39 PM EDT up reply actions  

I don’t think there’s anything like that.

If you have the PPV thing in your contract, you get it, no matter what your billing is on the card. That’s why they don’t give them out like candy, because having a bunch of guys with a PPV% on one card can eat into the profits.

by Phildo on Oct 31, 2009 5:45 PM EDT up reply actions  

Like Phildo said. If you have a ppv % thing in your contract then you get a cut no matter where you are on the ppv. If they only did main events get a cut then guys Liddell or GSP would not have got a cut of the PPV% at UFC 97 and UFC 100 respectively.

Also like Phildo said that is why you dont see the UFC stack cards too much because if they ever did a card with like even 5 fighters who make a % of the ppv then the UFC begans to not make as much money and they dont want that.

by bigdmmafan on Oct 31, 2009 5:51 PM EDT up reply actions  

Not to mention there are only about 6-8 guys who get a cut and four of them are champs so if you had even three of them on the same card you would really limit your ability to have good cards over the following 3-4 months.

by ufc4 on Oct 31, 2009 6:12 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions  

Get back to fighting Anderson

If your hurt fine then take care of it but you only defended the middleweight title once this year and now we have 3 contenders. I understand him wanting to be at 100% but I also am tired of hearing well he’s gonna fight and now he’s not. Then it’s back on and now its off again.

by bigdmmafan on Oct 31, 2009 5:00 PM EDT reply actions  

You know, all jokes aside I think Anderson deserves to take time off. He has fought more times per year than any other champion (they may not always be title defenses always, but he has fought). If Brock can take time off for h1n1, Anderson can take time off for an operation.

Machida is a god
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by Orcus on Oct 31, 2009 5:15 PM EDT up reply actions  

My problem is

He seems to be refusing fights now. If he actually needs time to recover then fine take all the time you need but it just seems odd that now he needs time off after saying how Henderson, Marquardt, and Belfort were not “worthy challengers”.

And I dont know if it was the Griffin win or what but I dont remember Silva complaining about Irvin, Cote, or Leites as worthy opponents but now the 3 guys that most people would argue pose the greatest threat to his crown are all deemed “unworthy”.

And yes the threat they pose to his crown may be very little but I think they are far tougher than Irvin, Cote, and Leites.

by bigdmmafan on Oct 31, 2009 5:24 PM EDT up reply actions  

Yeah, I know, Anderson has changed his dialogue quite a bit since becoming champion. I think this is more Soares’ doing than Anderson’s (regarding the surgery), I think Soares is playing games going back and forth on the elbow thing, but I do believe Anderson will be doing surgery. But you are right, he’s become much more arrogant than he used to be.

Machida is a god
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by Orcus on Oct 31, 2009 5:29 PM EDT up reply actions  

He didn’t refuse anything. He said he wouldn’t like to fight some of his potential opponents, bu he will fight them if he has to.
How many “not worthy” opponents he has to fight to earn the right to complain about fighting them? I think 3 is enough.
He’s arguably top p4p fighter in the World, he deserves some respect, instead he gets shit because he’s “ducking” Hendo, Nate, and Vitor, and wants to hold his title more.

by dancingChicken on Oct 31, 2009 5:45 PM EDT up reply actions  

The problem there is Hendo, Vitor, and Nate are the top contenders at 185. If there was another better contender that he wanted to face then I wouldnt be complaining but those 3 are the top contenders at 185 and he doesnt want to fight any of them.

He wants big fights at 205 but wont fight Machida. So if he wont fight Machida then why does Dana want him picking off contenders at 205.

I dont know who he is waiting around for at 185 but if he doesnt want to fight the contenders than drop the title.

by bigdmmafan on Oct 31, 2009 5:56 PM EDT up reply actions  

Yeah, but this is all Dana’s fault. He’s the one who invited him to fight at 205 and Dana has the power to strip him of the title if he wants (but he’s not going to do that because than Anderson would be clear of the Champions clause).

Machida is a god
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by Orcus on Oct 31, 2009 6:03 PM EDT up reply actions  

It’s not Dana’s fault, Silva said he wanted to fight more and since they were lacking contenders at 185 at the time that was the only way to fulfill his wish. Now that the fights are there to be had he doesn’t want them, makes no sense.

by ufc4 on Oct 31, 2009 6:15 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions  

nope, sorry, I see it as Dana’s fault :P

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by Orcus on Oct 31, 2009 6:44 PM EDT up reply actions  

Good enough.

by ufc4 on Oct 31, 2009 8:24 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions  

Strip him?

One minute you’re saying give the poor guy a rest, now you’re suggesting he should be stripped? Real good then..

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by Blackout612 on Oct 31, 2009 6:47 PM EDT up reply actions  

Dana has the power to strip him of the title if he wants

where did I say I wanted Anderson to be stripped of the title again?

Machida is a god
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by Orcus on Oct 31, 2009 8:11 PM EDT up reply actions  

Again I would like to see Vitor fight Marquardt since this is always the case with Anderson Silva. Let the winner fight Anderson.

by buttters on Oct 31, 2009 5:09 PM EDT reply actions  

Hendo and Belfort part deux

"Beer is proof that God loves us and wants us to be happy" - Ben Franklin

by donkeypunch on Oct 31, 2009 5:18 PM EDT reply actions  

Hendo doesn’t have a contract.

by ufc4 on Oct 31, 2009 6:30 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions  

They’ve just missed great opportunity to make huge money.

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by Venom77 on Oct 31, 2009 5:20 PM EDT reply actions  

Ed Soares quotes

Tomorrow-“Anderson IS fighting at 108”
Monday-“Nevermind, he’s still hurt”
Tuesday-“Anderson is now headlining 106”
Wednesday-“Anderson is out til 2011”

by ufc4 on Oct 31, 2009 5:37 PM EDT via mobile reply actions  

Like i’ve said before what Soares thinks really has no bearing on reality, fact is Anderson will be fighting early next year and he will face off against Vitor if it isn’t at UFC 108 it’ll be on either of the next 2 cards. It’s not the end of the world, sure it sucks and i’m just as tired of Ed’s mouth as everyone else is but there are still plenty of other fights to enjoy in the meantime le’s not get too crazy here.

by Raker on Oct 31, 2009 5:40 PM EDT reply actions  

Really?

Machida? No. GSP? No. Brock? Not yet. Rampage-Rashad? Nope.

by ufc4 on Oct 31, 2009 6:17 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions  

who cares really hes fucking up his own fan intrest. If he was smart he would be itching to get back because he could build off of his Forrest ko. To be honest he should be happy to fight Hendo. Hendo is just fresh off an amazing Ko and a season of Tuf so if anderson fights him then that much more exposure, but fuck it let him take time off to go waste more time.

by Riley_96 on Oct 31, 2009 6:21 PM EDT reply actions  

~

like i’ve had enough of silva’s antics. the guy is undoubtly one of the best mma fighters of all time , but he’s acting like it and i can’t stand that. does that make me a bad person or fan, i don’t know and i don’t care. F his bull. Just ask for a whole lot more money and just fight who ever they ask you to, but quit pulling these lame ass stunts. ~end of rant

by dugmouth on Oct 31, 2009 8:55 PM EDT reply actions  

shoot

~ = i feel…damn sry bout that

by dugmouth on Oct 31, 2009 8:55 PM EDT reply actions  

I have a question, how come no one is talking Mousasi vs Silva?

I seriously think Mousasi can beat Silva.

by goodbones on Nov 1, 2009 12:56 AM EDT reply actions  

the obvious answer is because they are in opposing promotions, no?

by sadface on Nov 1, 2009 1:56 AM EDT via mobile up reply actions  

thats what i think is it.

by dugmouth on Nov 1, 2009 1:14 AM EDT up reply actions  

So, let’s get Mousasi in the UFC.

by goodbones on Nov 3, 2009 9:31 PM EST up reply actions  

it would be awesome

if the UFC had Mousasi. could change the whole weight class

by dugmouth on Nov 1, 2009 1:15 AM EDT reply actions  

I think it’s funny that people are apparently so fed up with Anderson Silva that now they won’t even allow for the possibility that he might actually be injured. Everyone was hypothesizing that Silva would accept a fight for UFC 108 because Lesnar was headlining, and now that he’s apparently having surgery anyway people still think he’s refusing to fight.

Am I out bounds by asking someone to come up with something more concrete before he’s tried and convicted in the court of public opinion? My gosh, stop the presses- different people are saying different things in regards to his elbow- it must be a conspiracy.

It was the same exact thing with Georges St. Pierre and the infamous greasing (non) issue. What’s the saying- the only thing people love more than building a hero is tearing him down? Anyway, I’ve had my say- back to your regularly scheduled programming… Ed Soares is clearly the devil.

by BilboMcFonzie on Nov 1, 2009 1:43 AM EDT reply actions  

different people are saying different things in regards to his elbow

No, the same person (Ed Soares) is saying different things about his elbow, that’s the point. If he had just said from day one that his elbow is hurt, he’s having surgery, and he won’t accept another fight until he’s 100% then we could have avoided all this. Instead it’s been “he’s hurt” then “he’s fine and ready to fight” then “he had surgery” then “well he could fight but he doesn’t think the top contenders are worthy”. What the fuck ever Ed, just cut the BS and shut the fuck up til he’s ready to sign a bout agreement.

by ufc4 on Nov 1, 2009 8:21 AM EST up reply actions   1 recs

fighters lashing out?

thats two f-you’s from headliners in the past week

Facts don't come with points of view

by rector on Nov 1, 2009 2:32 AM EDT reply actions  

All I know is that I would rather see a Silva at 100% than a Silva with a bum elbow. If it is just a power play for money, that also makes sense.

for all intents and purposes, just consider all my posts as works of satire.

by Bandaka on Nov 1, 2009 10:11 AM EST reply actions  

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