Anderson Silva Will Not Be Able to Fight Vitor Belfort at UFC 108
by Kid Nate on Oct 31, 2009 4:37 PM EDT
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MMA Junkie talks to Ed Soares:
"The latest is he's not fighting Jan. 2," Soares said. "That's not going to happen. He won't be ready."
Silva recently had bone spurs removed from his right elbow, and the rehabilitation necessary following the procedure means Silva won't be ready to defend his title in a proposed UFC 108 matchup with Vitor Belfort.
As for when Silva will be ready to fight again, Soares said nothing is yet certain.
"We have to wait and see," Soares said. "Anderson went back to Brazil, and he's continuing his physical therapy there. But there's no set date yet."
Those who have been following the saga of Anderson Silva's elbow may take a more cynical perspective.
Zak Woods had summed up the saga pretty well a couple of weeks back:
Now add one more installment to the tale.MMA Live was the first to report that Anderson Silva would undergo elbow surgery. Then Kevin Iole talked to Silva's manger, Ed Soares, who said that Silva did not need elbow surgery. Then UFC president, Dana White, confirmed that Anderson would in fact undergo surgery.
Are you dizzy yet?
Despite the surgery it was then announced that Silva would defend his middleweight title against Vitor Belfort at UFC 108.
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Black House strikes again!
Machida is a god
I now drink my urine daily
by orcus on Oct 31, 2009 4:41 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
oi vay, the saga continues… might as well put Mardquardt up with Belfort then.
by pop_gun_war on Oct 31, 2009 4:41 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
I’m guessing this means the surgery and injury were legit, because i don’t see the logic in not fighting a card headlined by the Brock.
by Phildo on Oct 31, 2009 4:48 PM EDT reply actions 3 recs
Maybe he’s going to help prep Machida for his next fight against Shogun
JK :P
Machida is a god
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by orcus on Oct 31, 2009 4:57 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
I don’t know the details of UFC contracts (maybe someone can fill me in here), but are PPV % based on if you are main event of the card? If the Lesnar v. Carwin fight happens at UFC 108, it would have bumped the Silva fight down. If that is indeed how the PPV % salaries are determined, then this whole mess smells like bullshit. Silva could be holding out until he is main event on a card.
I also wouldn’t put it past Dana White ‘forcing’ the fight off the card and rescheduling it for a later event – because lets be honest, there is a lack of primetime fights on the horizon. (This could also be said about moving the Lesnar fight from UFC 106 – White could have thought the Griffin/Oritz fight can carry its own event). More likely than not these conspiracies are false, but there are too many conflicting reports to not make you wonder whats really going on.
by neyvit on Oct 31, 2009 5:39 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
I don’t think there’s anything like that.
If you have the PPV thing in your contract, you get it, no matter what your billing is on the card. That’s why they don’t give them out like candy, because having a bunch of guys with a PPV% on one card can eat into the profits.
by Phildo on Oct 31, 2009 5:45 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Like Phildo said. If you have a ppv % thing in your contract then you get a cut no matter where you are on the ppv. If they only did main events get a cut then guys Liddell or GSP would not have got a cut of the PPV% at UFC 97 and UFC 100 respectively.
Also like Phildo said that is why you dont see the UFC stack cards too much because if they ever did a card with like even 5 fighters who make a % of the ppv then the UFC begans to not make as much money and they dont want that.
by bigdmmafan on Oct 31, 2009 5:51 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Not to mention there are only about 6-8 guys who get a cut and four of them are champs so if you had even three of them on the same card you would really limit your ability to have good cards over the following 3-4 months.
by ufc4 on Oct 31, 2009 6:12 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions 0 recs
Get back to fighting Anderson
If your hurt fine then take care of it but you only defended the middleweight title once this year and now we have 3 contenders. I understand him wanting to be at 100% but I also am tired of hearing well he’s gonna fight and now he’s not. Then it’s back on and now its off again.
by bigdmmafan on Oct 31, 2009 5:00 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
You know, all jokes aside I think Anderson deserves to take time off. He has fought more times per year than any other champion (they may not always be title defenses always, but he has fought). If Brock can take time off for h1n1, Anderson can take time off for an operation.
Machida is a god
I now drink my urine daily
by orcus on Oct 31, 2009 5:15 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
My problem is
He seems to be refusing fights now. If he actually needs time to recover then fine take all the time you need but it just seems odd that now he needs time off after saying how Henderson, Marquardt, and Belfort were not “worthy challengers”.
And I dont know if it was the Griffin win or what but I dont remember Silva complaining about Irvin, Cote, or Leites as worthy opponents but now the 3 guys that most people would argue pose the greatest threat to his crown are all deemed “unworthy”.
And yes the threat they pose to his crown may be very little but I think they are far tougher than Irvin, Cote, and Leites.
by bigdmmafan on Oct 31, 2009 5:24 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Yeah, I know, Anderson has changed his dialogue quite a bit since becoming champion. I think this is more Soares’ doing than Anderson’s (regarding the surgery), I think Soares is playing games going back and forth on the elbow thing, but I do believe Anderson will be doing surgery. But you are right, he’s become much more arrogant than he used to be.
Machida is a god
I now drink my urine daily
by orcus on Oct 31, 2009 5:29 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
He didn’t refuse anything. He said he wouldn’t like to fight some of his potential opponents, bu he will fight them if he has to.
How many “not worthy” opponents he has to fight to earn the right to complain about fighting them? I think 3 is enough.
He’s arguably top p4p fighter in the World, he deserves some respect, instead he gets shit because he’s “ducking” Hendo, Nate, and Vitor, and wants to hold his title more.
by dancingChicken on Oct 31, 2009 5:45 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
The problem there is Hendo, Vitor, and Nate are the top contenders at 185. If there was another better contender that he wanted to face then I wouldnt be complaining but those 3 are the top contenders at 185 and he doesnt want to fight any of them.
He wants big fights at 205 but wont fight Machida. So if he wont fight Machida then why does Dana want him picking off contenders at 205.
I dont know who he is waiting around for at 185 but if he doesnt want to fight the contenders than drop the title.
by bigdmmafan on Oct 31, 2009 5:56 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Yeah, but this is all Dana’s fault. He’s the one who invited him to fight at 205 and Dana has the power to strip him of the title if he wants (but he’s not going to do that because than Anderson would be clear of the Champions clause).
Machida is a god
I now drink my urine daily
by orcus on Oct 31, 2009 6:03 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
It’s not Dana’s fault, Silva said he wanted to fight more and since they were lacking contenders at 185 at the time that was the only way to fulfill his wish. Now that the fights are there to be had he doesn’t want them, makes no sense.
by ufc4 on Oct 31, 2009 6:15 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions 0 recs
nope, sorry, I see it as Dana’s fault :P
Machida is a god
I now drink my urine daily
by orcus on Oct 31, 2009 6:44 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Strip him?
One minute you’re saying give the poor guy a rest, now you’re suggesting he should be stripped? Real good then..
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by Blackout612 on Oct 31, 2009 6:47 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Dana has the power to strip him of the title if he wants
where did I say I wanted Anderson to be stripped of the title again?
Machida is a god
I now drink my urine daily
by orcus on Oct 31, 2009 8:11 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Again I would like to see Vitor fight Marquardt since this is always the case with Anderson Silva. Let the winner fight Anderson.
by buttters on Oct 31, 2009 5:09 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Hendo and Belfort part deux
"Beer is proof that God loves us and wants us to be happy" - Ben Franklin
by donkeypunch on Oct 31, 2009 5:18 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Hendo doesn’t have a contract.
by ufc4 on Oct 31, 2009 6:30 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions 0 recs
They’ve just missed great opportunity to make huge money.
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by Venom77 on Oct 31, 2009 5:20 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Ed Soares quotes
Tomorrow-“Anderson IS fighting at 108”
Monday-“Nevermind, he’s still hurt”
Tuesday-“Anderson is now headlining 106”
Wednesday-“Anderson is out til 2011”
by ufc4 on Oct 31, 2009 5:37 PM EDT via mobile reply actions 0 recs
Like i’ve said before what Soares thinks really has no bearing on reality, fact is Anderson will be fighting early next year and he will face off against Vitor if it isn’t at UFC 108 it’ll be on either of the next 2 cards. It’s not the end of the world, sure it sucks and i’m just as tired of Ed’s mouth as everyone else is but there are still plenty of other fights to enjoy in the meantime le’s not get too crazy here.
by Raker on Oct 31, 2009 5:40 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
who cares really hes fucking up his own fan intrest. If he was smart he would be itching to get back because he could build off of his Forrest ko. To be honest he should be happy to fight Hendo. Hendo is just fresh off an amazing Ko and a season of Tuf so if anderson fights him then that much more exposure, but fuck it let him take time off to go waste more time.
by Riley_96 on Oct 31, 2009 6:21 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Everyone repeat after me
“Dan Henderson is not currently signed to the UFC”
by ufc4 on Oct 31, 2009 6:32 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions 0 recs
i am quite aware of that fact, but one of the major sticking points is the fact dan has had a title fight given and taken away from him twice. Im sure if a title match was on the table he would be more willing to budge on his asking price
by Riley_96 on Oct 31, 2009 8:01 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
How could he have had a title shot taken away twice when he has no deal with the UFC? Did he agree to fight for the title for free?
by ufc4 on Oct 31, 2009 8:22 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions 0 recs
after the ufc 100 he said he was excited to fight for the title, now why would he say that unless he was willing to sign right away. Second he was set to fight franklin but that got pull and he was then said to be fighting for the title. One tweet was who has two thumbs and going to kick andersons ass or something of that nature once again showing that he was pretty willing to sign a deal if he was getting a shot at the title. He now said that he will fight nate but for the right price.
I could be wrong of course but by what he was saying the title shot would have got his name on a UFC contract pretty quick. So yes he was said to be the next match for anderson twice, first he was paired with rich in a re match and second they wanted him to fight nate to see who gets the shot
by Riley_96 on Oct 31, 2009 10:05 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Dan was only willing to sign for the right amount of money, plain and simple. Do you think he would rather fight Nate for $600,000 or Anderson for $300,000? The reason he was so willing to sign for the title shot is because he thought it was gonna come with a huge raise. When he found out he wasn’t worth as much as he thought everything came to a halt.
by ufc4 on Oct 31, 2009 10:32 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions 0 recs
im ust going by what he was saying, im not saying your wrong im right. Seems to be he wants to get paid off for a fight that may get him knocked down the contender ladder. So yeah i do believe he would have fought Anderson for a little less then he would nate. A fight with andy is worth more to dan then nate therefore more money to fight nate to make up the difference.
by Riley_96 on Oct 31, 2009 10:38 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Dan Henderson is not currently signed to the UFC
by MauiPimpin on Oct 31, 2009 8:48 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
I agree with you Riley…Hendo vs Silva and Vitor vs Silva would’ve done big numbers…but these guys are threats and are risky fights for Silva…I think Machida and Silva are taking the same road…there both like, oh- i need surgery now so I cant fight these guys(vitor, hendo, shogun)- meanwhile they’re hoping that someone else knocks these guys off so they can hold onto their belts a little longer and fight guys that are better match ups
by oousty on Oct 31, 2009 6:32 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
i don’t think lyoto is taking that road. I mean if he felt that way he probably would take the same route as silva trying to discredit the guys who are in line for a shot. Each time a new name comes up theres something wrong with the elbow or the guy should fight someone else before he diserves a shot this coming from a guy who beat chris leben for his title fight. At least Vitor beat rich
by Riley_96 on Oct 31, 2009 8:04 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
to say that lyoto is ducking shogun because of his hand is 100% bullshit. thats such an unfounded statement, im at a loss as to what to say.
by sadface on Nov 1, 2009 1:53 AM EDT via mobile up reply actions 0 recs
read my post again, never said lyoto is duckin any one. Im sure lyoto would fight any one they put in front of him
by Riley_96 on Nov 1, 2009 6:40 AM EST up reply actions 0 recs
~
like i’ve had enough of silva’s antics. the guy is undoubtly one of the best mma fighters of all time , but he’s acting like it and i can’t stand that. does that make me a bad person or fan, i don’t know and i don’t care. F his bull. Just ask for a whole lot more money and just fight who ever they ask you to, but quit pulling these lame ass stunts. ~end of rant
by dugmouth on Oct 31, 2009 8:55 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
I have a question, how come no one is talking Mousasi vs Silva?
I seriously think Mousasi can beat Silva.
by goodbones on Nov 1, 2009 12:56 AM EDT reply actions 0 recs
the obvious answer is because they are in opposing promotions, no?
by sadface on Nov 1, 2009 1:56 AM EDT via mobile up reply actions 0 recs
it would be awesome
if the UFC had Mousasi. could change the whole weight class
by dugmouth on Nov 1, 2009 1:15 AM EDT reply actions 0 recs
I think it’s funny that people are apparently so fed up with Anderson Silva that now they won’t even allow for the possibility that he might actually be injured. Everyone was hypothesizing that Silva would accept a fight for UFC 108 because Lesnar was headlining, and now that he’s apparently having surgery anyway people still think he’s refusing to fight.
Am I out bounds by asking someone to come up with something more concrete before he’s tried and convicted in the court of public opinion? My gosh, stop the presses- different people are saying different things in regards to his elbow- it must be a conspiracy.
It was the same exact thing with Georges St. Pierre and the infamous greasing (non) issue. What’s the saying- the only thing people love more than building a hero is tearing him down? Anyway, I’ve had my say- back to your regularly scheduled programming… Ed Soares is clearly the devil.
by BilboMcFonzie on Nov 1, 2009 1:43 AM EDT reply actions 0 recs
different people are saying different things in regards to his elbow
No, the same person (Ed Soares) is saying different things about his elbow, that’s the point. If he had just said from day one that his elbow is hurt, he’s having surgery, and he won’t accept another fight until he’s 100% then we could have avoided all this. Instead it’s been “he’s hurt” then “he’s fine and ready to fight” then “he had surgery” then “well he could fight but he doesn’t think the top contenders are worthy”. What the fuck ever Ed, just cut the BS and shut the fuck up til he’s ready to sign a bout agreement.
by ufc4 on Nov 1, 2009 8:21 AM EST up reply actions 1 recs
fighters lashing out?
thats two f-you’s from headliners in the past week
Facts don't come with points of view
by rector on Nov 1, 2009 2:32 AM EDT reply actions 0 recs
All I know is that I would rather see a Silva at 100% than a Silva with a bum elbow. If it is just a power play for money, that also makes sense.
for all intents and purposes, just consider all my posts as works of satire.
by Bandaka on Nov 1, 2009 10:11 AM EST reply actions 0 recs
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