Manager Bas Boon Talks About Alistair Overeem's Enormous Growth as a Fighter
by Kid Nate on Oct 3, 2009 1:49 PM EDT
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K1 Legend has an interview with Overeem manager Bas Boon and they ask him straight up about Overeem's remarkable physical growth over the past few years:
K-1 LEGEND: Overeem’s move to heavyweight has seemed to really give his career a giant jump start, what prompted this decision and what went into his training to help him bulk up to being such a formidable heavyweight?
Bas Boon: We have talked a lot with Alistair about his lack of cardio in some fights when he fought in 205 lb class. He is a natural heavyweight, his weight then was around 102 kg (Alistair is 196cm) and he always had to loose about 10kg to make his weight, he would have problems later in the fight because Alistair’s aggressive fight style. We decided to move up in weight, from that moment on he fought Paul [Buentello] in Strikeforce 2007 for the belt (Alistair already defeated Belfort for the second time in a rematch in the states). He ko’d Paul in round two, then Alistair went through a difficult time in his private life which resulted in the loss against teammate Kharitonov, he did not have the good training before that fight as well his mental state was not good. We overcame that problem and the results are great, Alistair feels great, he does not gas anymore. Sparring in Breda with Zimmerman, Saki, Kharitonov, John Olav Einemo, he is improving by the day, his defence is getting better as well as his combinations and he can take a hell of a punch.
Boon also goes on in great detail about his business conflicts with Fedor Emelianenko's managers M-1 Global. If anything, the added details only muddy the waters. It sounds like Boon is backtracking a little bit from the way his earlier charges against them were presented in the online media. It's well worth a read. If anyone has the time to untangle the various back-and-forth and he-said-she-said I'd love to read it.
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I was hoping he’d give some insight on his actual “enormous [physical] growth”.
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Me too , but even if he talked about it what would he say – Alisteer trained hard did a lot of weight lifting and went on a special protein diet , he won’t say the truth . Let’s see Alisteer fight in the U.S already , all the rest is bullshit!
True, but
there’s a VERY noticable size difference between Overeem in 2007 against Paul, and just recently. I’ll see if I can find pics
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by ElliotMatheny on Oct 3, 2009 6:41 PM EDT up reply actions
Against Buentello
Sure, he’s pretty buff, but nothing like this:
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by ElliotMatheny on Oct 3, 2009 6:46 PM EDT up reply actions
This
I’m finally reading Pearlman’s book about Barry Bonds and the head growth…. I mean, it can’t be anything else.
"That feeling after you win and they raise your hand... it's like you have this energy that releases from your body, and it's like you mingle with the cosmos, and you feel omnipotent"
The point being
that the guy has obviously packed on a shit ton of pure muscle in a short period of time. He’s been weighing in around 250ish lately, and he even said that he was around 230ish when he was cutting to LHW.
I don’t really care though, I mean it’s obvious that he’s a natural HW, and that steroids or not the guy has fantastic genetics. There are several things that lead me to believe that he’s juicing though- but the most obvious and sensible is the amount of muscle he’s put on recently. In order to keep up the kind of cardio that he’s displayed recently, an athlete has to train a TON, which requires a massive amount of calories, and packing on muscle in spite of such a huge catabolic demand on his body would be extremely hard to do.
The thing about steroids are that they can build muscle in a caloric deficit, so he can pack on muscle and still maintain elite level conditioning. 20 lbs of muscle in a year – a year & 1/2 is a task in and of itself, and especially when he’s probably doing alot of hard cardio on top of training striking and grappling a good 4-6 hours a day, 6 days a week.
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by ElliotMatheny on Oct 3, 2009 6:53 PM EDT up reply actions
that was 2007 , freakin two years ago . It’s a disgrace Strikeforce is still letting him keep the belt …
He wasn’t under contract with them and until recently they literally had nobody he could have fought during that time
Unless you were clamoring to see Overeem vs Mike Kyle
right.
He didn’t sign a contract with Strikeforce until earlier this year, and his injury pushed back his fight. People got up in arms over him taking those K-1, GG and other bookings, but honestly he had contracts with them before he had a contract with Strikeforce.
Since he healed have they offered him another fight? It goes both ways. I know for a fact they haven’t, they have been so focused on FEDOR FEDOR FEDOR!
Strikeforce was so shitty they didn’t have their heavyweight champion under contract. How do you figure that?
by HizaGiri Nightmare on Oct 3, 2009 9:59 PM EDT up reply actions
Yeah, this was def. an attempt to troll out mention of his steroid intake, if any.. Bas is good, though, he didn’t bite.
It sounds like Boon would be fine to work with those “mobsters” again if they’ll give him some more opportunities.
by HizaGiri Nightmare on Oct 3, 2009 4:39 PM EDT reply actions
he didn’t take steroids. You people don’t know what your talking about. if you have proof lets talk about it. Then there’s Shogun…do we really want or need to know why he did so good in pride…
srsly
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by blubber_guard on Oct 4, 2009 11:28 AM EDT up reply actions
Im not going to say any of these guys did or didn’t juice, but attributing all successes and all failures to the use or lack of steroids, is just stupid. I’m not saying you are doing that here, but that seems to be the tone of just about any discussion of the usual suspects.
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Uhhh
i’m sorry, but has Shogun packed on 15-20 lbs of muscle within a year’s span?
The proof is your freaking eyes- just ask anyone on a bodybuilding/ pro- steroid usage forum, show them Alistair’s before and after pictures; I guarantee you they’ll shed some light on the situation
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by ElliotMatheny on Oct 3, 2009 6:56 PM EDT up reply actions
I’ve seen guy’s at my work go from 260 all the way down to 220 in 9 fuckin months. Not even. Then bulk back up in like 2 months. It’s all about genetics
Losing 4.5 lbs a month, then gain 20lbs a month? That’s not possible naturally, I can assure you that.
4.5lbs a month is simple.
20lbs a month is too.. if all you do is eat twinkies and chocolate syrup.
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also overeems primary goal is not to change his body. hes a fighter, if he wanted to put on some weight to fight at heavy weight, its pretty far fetched to believe he just naturally stayed as lean as ever, and put on 40+ lbs of muscle mass, all while still training for mma, and doing plenty of cardio. people forget, “guys at your gym” are not pro mma fighters on an insane cardio schedule
How can you hate on this guy ? 07 overeem and the overeem of now deff isn’t a huge difference. OR do you guys bag on him because he isn’t under UFC and he deff (is / poses) a threat to being better than all of the UFC’s HW. All this " If its not in the UFC" or “He isn’t fighting in the states” bullshit bashing is pure IGNORANCE. Just goes to prove the closed minded US of A attitude finally transpired into the MMA community, and for that id like to thank Mr White himself for establishing this brilliancy into “Newer” fans. AND i say “newer” because ive never noticed this attitude in the MMA community until recent years with the popularity of the UFC.
You’re right but the people do have a point – it might be Strikeforce’s fault for Overeem not fighting so long in the U.S but add that to the freakish look he has now and people will make conclusions . This will all be resolved when (if) Alisteer fights in the U.S again , and we’ll be able to get some answers (also some answers to how Overeem handles REAL opponents like Werdum\Rogers\Fedor…)
P.S I’m not even American
All I know is that my first viewing of AO was of him versus Chuck Lidell back in 03. He looked small back then, more like a middle weight he was very lean. Now look at him, he must be on the biggestt/strongest men in MMA. Am I wrong?
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