DREAM.12 Alistair Overeem vs. James Thompson - Eddie Alvarez vs. Katsunori Kikuno -...

SUPER MONSTER FIGHT!

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by Brent Brookhouse on Oct 25, 2009 11:24 AM EDT reply actions 0 recs

Uh, yeah. Pretty much looked like his last fight. Grab the cans head and squeeze till he taps. Wrap it.

by oasis77 on Oct 25, 2009 11:24 AM EDT reply actions 0 recs

What? no one loved Overeem doing a vince carter?

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by Anton Tabuena on Oct 25, 2009 11:50 AM EDT reply actions 0 recs

Impressive leap

wholly unimpressive fight, though.

by Trysdor on Oct 25, 2009 12:03 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs

DAMMIT! I bet my rent money on Thompson.

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by Ubernoober on Oct 25, 2009 12:03 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs

Marius Zaromskis is officially the new generations Cro Cop

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by Deo Wade on Oct 25, 2009 12:24 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs

Does that mean that Myeon Ho Bae is the new generation's Dos Caras?

Seriously … that guy had no business being in the cage with the Whitemare. That finish was as predictable as a Clay Guida dry humping.

by Steve4192 on Oct 25, 2009 4:07 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

brutal choke in the maeda/beebe fight! thanks for the links.

by woooburn on Oct 25, 2009 12:27 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs

I would just like to say that DREAM 12 delivered the goods last night. In my opinion, putting production values aside, it was a slightly, slightly better event than UFC 104.

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by a tommy point on Oct 25, 2009 12:54 PM EDT reply actions 1 recs

no disrespect but i don’t really think lopsided match-ups are delivering the goods. the saku fight was awesome but outside of that there was never a doubt in my mind of the winners of alvarez/marius/overeem fights before they happened.

by cagefightonacid on Oct 25, 2009 2:22 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

Kikuno was a legit threat.

by Meshuggeth on Oct 25, 2009 2:31 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

until the fight happened

by cagefightonacid on Oct 25, 2009 2:58 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

What are you talking about? Kikuno was winning the fight before it went to the ground.

by omigawda on Oct 25, 2009 8:05 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

i’ll watch it again, but i don’t remember kikuno doing anything well except his zombie impression…

by cagefightonacid on Oct 26, 2009 12:03 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

Maeda/Beebe was a good fight.

Alvarez/Kikuno was a very good fight.

Saku pulling victory from the jaws of defeat was fucking incredible.

We had a Zaromskis murder kick and a standing guillotine from Ubereem.

All in all, I’d say that makes for a pretty damn good event.

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by a tommy point on Oct 25, 2009 2:39 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

maeda/beebe was good, alvarez/kikuno was ok but never was eddie in danger or out of control… i’d rather him be fighting top 10, saku was fucking incredible, and zaromskis should have been fighting someone decent as well as ‘ubereem.’ it’s all a matter of opinion, but i enjoyed 104 much more…

by cagefightonacid on Oct 25, 2009 2:58 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

Myeon Ho Bae isn't "decent?"

I dunno, man. The guy’s tough as nails and Marius zapping him with that LHK was def. impressive to me.

As for Kikuno having Alvarez in danger, watch Eddie’s post-fight interview. He thought he wasn’t in trouble when Kikuno had him in that crucifix for about 2 1/2 minutes, but he said when he pulled his head out, his equilibrium was totally thrown off and he couldn’t find his footing. And Kikuno was denying all of his TD attempts early on.

by Chris Nelson on Oct 25, 2009 3:05 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

fair enough

i was more commenting on the comparison of ufc 104 and dream.12, i just think it was on a different level of quality as far as match-ups. myeon ho bae hasn’t beat anyone close to the top 10, why should their champ be fighting him?? that’s all i’m saying. if it was georges fighting someone below the top 5, people would flip out… it just seems that dream is held to a different standard.

by cagefightonacid on Oct 25, 2009 3:53 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

I wasn’t referring to the match-ups. I care about, and was referring to, how things unfolded. You can have two of the very best fighters in the world in a cage/ring and the fight could turn out to be a dud.

DREAM 12, to me, was a more entertaining event than UFC 104. And I was being nice by excluding the production values between the two because then I would have to weigh it even more in favor of DREAM 12.

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by a tommy point on Oct 25, 2009 4:04 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

and you’re entitled to your opinion…. i completely disagree and was much more entertained by 104, as i’ve said, but i guess it’s all a matter of perspective (especially the production style) and what you want from the sport.

by cagefightonacid on Oct 25, 2009 4:50 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

Zaromskis has never beaten anyone close to the top 10 either (OK, maybe Sakurai was “close,” if you have a fairly liberal definition of that term). To hold him to the standard match-wise as someone like GSP wouldn’t make any sense. He wouldn’t have anybody to fight.

by JRN on Oct 25, 2009 5:02 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

sakurai is an awesome win so i don’t think that works. i think you mis-understood the gsp comparison. i’m not saying marius should be fighting the same caliber opponent as gsp, just that he should fight someone who is worthy of fighting their champ.

by cagefightonacid on Oct 25, 2009 5:44 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

Sakurai is still a good win in 2009, but it’s not what used to be. And you said “myeon ho bae hasn’t beat anyone close to the top 10,” which suggests that MHB should have had to beat a top 10 fighter to get a match with Zaromskis, who is himself not a top 10 fighter. That doesn’t make any sense.

Don’t get me wrong, it would have been nice for them to have gotten Zaromskis a higher-profile opponent for an actual title match, but MHB is not really that far below Zaromskis. That fight wasn’t any crazier than Serra/GSP, for example.

by JRN on Oct 25, 2009 9:25 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

it would have been nice for them to have gotten Zaromskis a higher-profile opponent for an actual title match

that’s all i wanted. and serra ko’d gsp but i get what you’re saying. all i mean is that i wish they had given marius somebody who he would’ve respected as a danger.

by cagefightonacid on Oct 26, 2009 12:05 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

Kikuno-Alvarez

I had that one for Kikuno in R1 pretty lopsidedly, possibly a 10-8, but like Gleison Tibau’s stand-up, his stand-up seemed to come apart when they gassed, I think due to both Kikuno’s attempt to hold onto that standing crucifix neck crank and also because of Alvarez’s cage work. (Possibly mental weakness when seeing that Alvarez was weathering Kikuno’s signature [i]mikazuki giri[/i] “crescent moon kick”?)

by Chortles on Oct 25, 2009 7:49 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

i need to watch that again on a better stream.

by cagefightonacid on Oct 26, 2009 12:06 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

in the zaromskis highlight, does anyone have any idea what he was trying to accomplish by doing a backflip?

by IpullguardIRL on Oct 25, 2009 1:29 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs

Trying to pass Seichi Ikemoto’s guard.

by Chris Nelson on Oct 25, 2009 1:36 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

Into side control right?

by Krimson on Oct 25, 2009 1:56 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

Super Atomic Butt Bomb.

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by a tommy point on Oct 25, 2009 2:55 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

Watch the Zaromskis fight.

by goodbones on Oct 25, 2009 1:36 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs

I’m starting to get excited everytime Zaromskis fights. Was hoping he’d be in the cage a little longer to see how he adjusts, though… But I guess I’ll have to settle for utter domination.

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by Robert Downey Sr. on Oct 25, 2009 2:01 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs

How about the ref catching Maeda’s mouthpiece after he slams it on the ground….

by Andrewjt101 on Oct 25, 2009 2:02 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs

Good stuff from the ref. Maeda was really impressive as well.

by Chris Nelson on Oct 25, 2009 2:10 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

It was awesome.

No one’s talking about it.

by Meshuggeth on Oct 25, 2009 2:32 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

That sakuraba fight was awesome.

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by IHateMMA on Oct 25, 2009 2:02 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs

my god Sakuraba is going to be a veg in 20 years but he is a legend and a class act. If only the UFC had rad fighter intros like Japan. SUPA MONSTA FIIIIIGHT!!! I love it.

by Koob on Oct 25, 2009 2:19 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs

I wonder what Jason HIgh thought of that Marius kick? I notice he didn’t have much to say about Dream 12 on his Twitter account.

by ThomasJ on Oct 25, 2009 2:41 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs

It gave him a headache watching it,, He still hasn’t woken up.

by CSKit on Oct 25, 2009 2:58 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

He never watches events live. Check his twitter tomorrow, and he’ll act like it’s live.

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by Beer Monster on Oct 25, 2009 4:21 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

James Thompson stopped training.

by grein on Oct 25, 2009 2:48 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs

he's got a helluva

arm slap hand clap thing going for him though

by soadtrails on Oct 25, 2009 2:51 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

Dong Sik Yoon also beat Tarec Sieffedine by Dongcision.

by JRN on Oct 25, 2009 3:24 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs

that sounds kinda gross

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by Deo Wade on Oct 25, 2009 3:27 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

Yeah, I would have preferred he pull of that Rear Naked Dong in the second round.

by JRN on Oct 25, 2009 5:02 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

The white cage looked kind of sweet in application.

by Cannon Jacques on Oct 25, 2009 3:26 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs

Gotta agree, pretty awesome.

by ryanwk628 on Oct 25, 2009 3:39 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

It was pretty damn awesome, but I'm still on the fence about the netting.

No pun intended.

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by Deo Wade on Oct 25, 2009 3:46 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

I thought DREAM.12 was a great show. Definitely delivered after UFC 104 left a bitter taste. The only question now is how the Japanese MMA fans and media thought about the show and the cage.

by MMASuPreMaCy on Oct 25, 2009 4:04 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs