UFC 104 post-fight press conference: (video) Stephan Struve - Submission of the Night Patrick...

saw dana white say to shogun after the fight “i had you winning that fight”… will be interested to see if he admits to that at the press conference.

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by MicahW on Oct 25, 2009 1:02 AM EDT reply actions 0 recs

I bet he will. If he wants people to think the UFC is legit, he’ll definitely say it.

'Ello G'vnor!

by IHateMMA on Oct 25, 2009 1:05 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

he better come out and say he'll give shogun an immediate rematch

he doesn’t even need to say he thought Shogun won, he can say it was that close and he’ll get another chance at the belt and I’d be happy with that. I hope Machida gives Shogun his dues in this PC, acknowledge he was the best he has faced, Shogun deserves some sugar, that was just terrible.

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by orcus on Oct 25, 2009 1:27 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

I’m not sure if he’ll come out and say it because of the current issues with Anderson Silva. He can think it, but I’m not sure if it would be smart to say it out in the open, right after the fight.

He can say that because it was a close fight he wants to do an immediate rematch (especially because Rashad is fighting T Silva and Rampage is still playing Mr. T)

by Phildo on Oct 25, 2009 1:53 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

Add more

I’m not installing the Microsoft plug-in on my new laptop right now, would love some updates. As if anyone else needed confirmation, Florian agreed that Shogun won on his Twitter feed.

And King Breen had the fight 48-47.

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by Bryan Everson (The Royalty of Roto) on Oct 25, 2009 1:10 AM EDT reply actions 0 recs

has it started yet?

by kovy on Oct 25, 2009 1:20 AM EDT reply actions 0 recs

I am on the site and nothing is playing yet

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by lovingmma25 on Oct 25, 2009 1:21 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

yeah me too, wasn’t sure, thx, really wanna see it

by kovy on Oct 25, 2009 1:22 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

I think it starts in 30 minutes from now, on the site it states it starts an hour after the live PPV broadcast

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by orcus on Oct 25, 2009 1:29 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

thanks

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by lovingmma25 on Oct 25, 2009 1:42 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

This press conference is going to be the perfect segway into Dream 12.

by DirtyML on Oct 25, 2009 1:27 AM EDT reply actions 0 recs

Is Dream available on PPV or the web?

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by Tony NJ on Oct 25, 2009 1:29 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

HDNet and probably nefarious streams.

by DirtyML on Oct 25, 2009 1:31 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

HDnet and internetz

'Ello G'vnor!

by IHateMMA on Oct 25, 2009 1:31 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

my friend Justin usually has it on his TV

by Td9d on Oct 25, 2009 1:32 AM EDT reply actions 0 recs

is HDnet is like a website TV?

Is it like a streaming online site? Or is it a cable channel?

Sorry for the dumb questions…

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by Tony NJ on Oct 25, 2009 1:35 AM EDT reply actions 0 recs

Its a channel.

by Meshuggeth on Oct 25, 2009 1:39 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

Comes with HD packages.

by Meshuggeth on Oct 25, 2009 1:39 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

Hey I thought it was a fight that coulda gone either way

i thought it was a robbery, but only of the proportions of say…. Wiman/Stout?

he was injured. injured bad.

by troy145 on Oct 25, 2009 1:40 AM EDT reply actions 0 recs

My stream is up now for the conference!

by DirtyML on Oct 25, 2009 1:48 AM EDT reply actions 0 recs

Conference started.

'Ello G'vnor!

by IHateMMA on Oct 25, 2009 1:49 AM EDT reply actions 0 recs

“Everybody that has spoke to me after has told me that they thought I won the fight.” — Shogun

Dana White said they’re going to try and get some help to educate the judges. Sounds like Dana thinks Shogun won.

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by FlyByKnight on Oct 25, 2009 1:50 AM EDT reply actions 0 recs

MMA Judges should score every aspect of MMA, like the sub attempts, reversals and defense. Maybe a system where you put a number to whatever a fighter has done, then get an average out of it to make that your score for the round.
But MMA cannot be scored like a boxing match anymore.

'Ello G'vnor!

by IHateMMA on Oct 25, 2009 1:54 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

Shoguns translator / manager(?) is probably one of the fastest speaking people since…. John Moschitta.

by DirtyML on Oct 25, 2009 1:54 AM EDT reply actions 0 recs

Wow lyoto, way to be a jerk.

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by IHateMMA on Oct 25, 2009 1:57 AM EDT reply actions 0 recs

Exactly what I’m thinking.

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by FlyByKnight on Oct 25, 2009 1:58 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

Karate Master + Heel =

by DirtyML on Oct 25, 2009 1:59 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

What he is doing is the equivalent of a basketball team getting a basket at the buzzard for the win, running into the locker room to collect their things so they can get out of there as quickly as possible.

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by IHateMMA on Oct 25, 2009 2:01 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

Pretty much. I love the guy but this is just so wrong.

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by FlyByKnight on Oct 25, 2009 2:01 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

what did he do?

I'm like PacMan fightin you silly kids... throw ya Hatton the ring, and get knocked outlike Ricky did.
lol.

by Loot on Oct 25, 2009 2:02 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

What did he do?

by dancingChicken on Oct 25, 2009 2:08 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

yeah, i must’ve missed it too.

by woooburn on Oct 25, 2009 2:25 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

It wasn’t something he did. It was just his whole attitude about the situation. He came off as very smug almost in the way that he believes he won the fight even though every question asked to him, or almost every question, had to do with a rematch since people thought Shogun won. I know he can’t say that he thinks he lost but damn, at least say you thought the other guy performed great. He made it all out to be that the judges gave him the win so that’s that and he didn’t get his strategy going which is why it was a close fight.

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by FlyByKnight on Oct 25, 2009 2:27 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

exactly he seemed to not want to acknowledge anything that Shogun did and kept going back to all three judges scored it in my favor so I must of won

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by lovingmma25 on Oct 25, 2009 2:51 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

Didn’t sound to me like him at all acting like he’d ‘actually’ won, just acknowledging what the decision was.

by Chortles on Oct 25, 2009 6:27 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

I don’t know what you guys want.

he absolutely can’t come out and say “i lost the fight,” it would have been nice if he said, “it was close” but it’s really not necessary. Everyone knows it was a close fight.

by Phildo on Oct 25, 2009 9:46 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

“There’s three judges and all three judges had a unanimous decision that [I] won the fight.” — Lyoto

“I was 100% but sometimes when you get in there, your strategy doesn’t always work like you plan it to.” — Lyoto

“I’m gonna go back home and watch the fight, and when we fight again I’ll have a different strategy and a different plan.” — Lyoto

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by FlyByKnight on Oct 25, 2009 1:59 AM EDT reply actions 0 recs

“In my opinion, I think I won the last three rounds of the fight. That’s my opinion.” — Shogun

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by FlyByKnight on Oct 25, 2009 2:00 AM EDT reply actions 0 recs

Machida was 6 to 1 fav too hmm. :)

by DirtyML on Oct 25, 2009 2:03 AM EDT reply actions 0 recs

“It was a tough fight to score.” — Dana White

“I love this rematch. I think it’s a great rematch.” — Dana

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by FlyByKnight on Oct 25, 2009 2:03 AM EDT reply actions 0 recs

That Japanese question was a weird one, but it’s good the Lyoto is getting attention from Japan.

'Ello G'vnor!

by IHateMMA on Oct 25, 2009 2:06 AM EDT reply actions 0 recs

“I think the line isn’t gonna be 6-to-1 on the next fight. I think it’ll be a lot closer.” — Dana

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by FlyByKnight on Oct 25, 2009 2:07 AM EDT reply actions 0 recs

“Of course. If the UFC decides we should have a rematch, let’s have a rematch.” — Lyoto

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by FlyByKnight on Oct 25, 2009 2:08 AM EDT reply actions 0 recs

“I still think Lyoto Machida is a freak of nature.” — Dana

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by FlyByKnight on Oct 25, 2009 2:10 AM EDT reply actions 0 recs

All three judges had round three for Machida. Kinda interesting.

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by FlyByKnight on Oct 25, 2009 2:15 AM EDT reply actions 0 recs

soares is such a bad translator

by Joselana on Oct 25, 2009 2:18 AM EDT reply actions 0 recs

Dana wants to see the fight again… sounds like there will be a quick rematch.

by Nick Thomas on Oct 25, 2009 2:21 AM EDT reply actions 0 recs

Machida vs. Shogun that is.

by Nick Thomas on Oct 25, 2009 2:21 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

I’m guessing it takes place on the New Year’s (whenever) card.

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by FlyByKnight on Oct 25, 2009 2:22 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

Or possibly UFC 109 on February 6th since that is without a main event.

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by FlyByKnight on Oct 25, 2009 2:22 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

Stevenson gets the last question. What a waste.

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by FlyByKnight on Oct 25, 2009 2:21 AM EDT reply actions 0 recs

Stevenson is a bit odd…

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by Tony NJ on Oct 25, 2009 2:22 AM EDT reply actions 0 recs

He talks and talks and says NOTHING.

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by Tony NJ on Oct 25, 2009 2:22 AM EDT reply actions 0 recs

I zoned out when he was talking

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by lovingmma25 on Oct 25, 2009 2:23 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

The whole world did. I wouldn’t be shocked if it lasted for 2 minutes and 17 seconds.

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by FlyByKnight on Oct 25, 2009 2:24 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

I don't know why they didn't give Shogun v Machida fight of the night, just to make up some for Shogun getting shafted in the decision.

Machida is my favorite fighter but i definitely think he lost tonight. So i guess the judges had him winning the first three rounds? Is that what happened? I guess its possible, but Shogun deserved the win. I guess you really have to finish the Champ to be the Champ.

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by J_Maddux on Oct 25, 2009 3:18 AM EDT reply actions 0 recs

They can’t give it fight of the night. People would freak out if they officially gave Machida a bonus for that.

I’m sure Shogun got taken care of.

by Phildo on Oct 25, 2009 9:46 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

Decision good for marketing?

OK, so we weren’t all that thrilled with this main event. Or, for this event altogether for that matter.

Isn’t the fact that there will likely be a rematch probably going to spell that Machida-Rua II is going to carry WAY more interest? Everyone dismissed this match like Machida was untouchable. Obviously, next time that won’t be the case. Both will have a great deal to prove.

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by Bryan Everson (The Royalty of Roto) on Oct 25, 2009 4:02 AM EDT reply actions 0 recs

I was pleased with the main event (decision aside), but i had a feeling that this event as a whole wouldn’t be overall that impressive which is why i decided to not buy it, in fact Dream.12 was much better.

Shogun-Machida should be one hell of a fight, but now that Shogun has shown Machida his game plan i feel that the next fight will still have the same winner.

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by TearsofaClown on Oct 25, 2009 5:45 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

thoughts on Steve Mazzagatti

dana, blackout612 & I have the same opinion.

I'm looking for the chicken and the rice. Please for you give me the chicken then you come with the rice or then you give me the rice and the chicken, I don't care.

by Thulsa Doom on Oct 26, 2009 10:46 AM EDT reply actions 1 recs