Quote of the Day: Dan Henderson's Demands Would Not Make Him Highest Paid UFC Fighter
by Brent Brookhouse on Oct 23, 2009 12:04 PM EDT
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"Contracts are confidential, so that statement’s impossible to prove or disprove," said Crecy. "However, we have done our due diligence. We certainly don’t believe that to be the case. Dan understands and we have a certain belief on where he stands in the hierarchy. Certainly there are champions and former UFC champions that deserve to be paid more than Dan. Right now (Dan’s) just trying to gather information, and that’s his right to do as someone who has no obligation to any particular organization," said Crecy. "After negotiating exclusively with the UFC for the last few months, he’s exploring what options there are."
- Dan Henderson's camp speaking to Sherdog.com
We certainly are hitting a point where the negotiations are getting ugly and the back and forth bickering in public isn't making either party look all that great.
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I’d call it more of a stalemate than an ugly situation. The whole part of the article where he’s formally regarding Dana’s suggestion that he’s ugly was the funniest thing I’ve seen in awhile.
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by Blackout612 on Oct 23, 2009 12:06 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
I agree
I’m actually very surprised at how cordial this has been. Sure there’s been some tactics to sway public favor but otherwise it seems rather friendly. There’s a mutual “let’s not burn any bridges here” feeling.
by nastyem on Oct 23, 2009 12:11 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
It’s because of the situation. With Randy they were probably scared a little bit so they had to go all out offensive. With Tito, they could be nasty and it was all just part of the bigger Dana v. Tito storyline that’s been playing out for years.
This time around, they actually do get along, and judging from watching Dana in his interviews, he really doesn’t think SF can match their offer.
by Phildo on Oct 23, 2009 12:16 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Yeah, I think if this really is about the money, Dana knows Dan can’t get that kind of deal with SF. And if somehow Dan does get that kind of a deal, good luck trying to promote him. They’ll have an aging fighter who is not a draw, with no footage to promote with, who they paid a large sum of money to. I think Dan has no real choice but to come back and take Dana’s offer unless Dan makes this about something more than just money, which I don’t think it is.
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by pud333 on Oct 23, 2009 12:36 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
I like Dan Henderson,
hopefully they can work something out.
by WestbergIDFC on Oct 23, 2009 12:17 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Crecy confirmed that Feagan and Strikeforce CEO Scott Coker met Wednesday in Los Angeles. White told reporters Thursday he’d seen the couple in a restaurant. Crecy also indicated that Henderson would not be required to present any outside offers he receives to the UFC for matching, a standard practice usually included in the promotion’s contracts.
Were they on a date? Jesus Sherdog..
by Phildo on Oct 23, 2009 12:18 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
I think we can be happy that two ugly men can look beyond appearances in what will be hopefully a wonderful, joyful relationship.
by dv8shun on Oct 23, 2009 1:04 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
I have no problem with Henderson exploring his options its probably the best a fighter can do. In the end its still business and thats what people do they explore their best options. I believe he will be back in the UFC very shortly it seems he may have just come in with a high number and is playing hardball
by nsiegel on Oct 23, 2009 12:31 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Hendo can fall back on his second career as a hand and foot model if the UFC doesn’t work out.
Keep firing Assholes!
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by Ubernoober on Oct 23, 2009 12:32 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
I wonder how much FEG or Sengoku would pay him. If they pay enough, he should just fight over there and stack his cash for some time. Easier competition too, but I’m not sure he’s worth enough to them that he could gouge them.
FEG sure did pay Nick Diaz though.
by TheAlphaNerd on Oct 23, 2009 12:40 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
I don’t know just how much those organizations would have to offer Dan financially. I seem to recall that one of the reasons why Crocop came back to the UFC, besides wanting to improve his record, was due to the money UFC could offer. Apparently no one else could match it. But then, that’s CC, so I don’t know how that would compare to Dan.
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by pud333 on Oct 23, 2009 12:45 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Indeed. There are actually people who would pay to see Crocop fight.
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by jemaleddin on Oct 23, 2009 1:42 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
I know Dan is a legend and all, but him even being in the discussion of highest paid fighters seems silly.
by Razzel on Oct 23, 2009 12:51 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Why not?
He’s one of the best pound for pound fighters in the organization. He’s also performed at a consistently high level for longer then anyone else that I can think of.
People can make the argument that he isn’t a PPV draw but I’m not neccesarily sure that holds too much weight after he dismantled Bisping.
by ThomasJ on Oct 23, 2009 1:04 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
He’s one of the best pound for pound fighters in the organization.
No he isn’t.
He’s also performed at a consistently high level for longer then anyone else that I can think of.
No he hasn’t.
People can make the argument that he isn’t a PPV draw but I’m not neccesarily sure that holds too much weight after he dismantled Bisping.
Rewatch the fight. His KO of Bisping was due to Bispings horrible strategy, and had nothing to do with Hendersons. He walked in with his right hand cocked, repeatedly, until he finally caught him (which, again, was due to Bispings dumb circling into the punch). There is zero, nothing, impressive in that strategy.
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by mythbuster on Oct 23, 2009 1:11 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Ya exploiting your opponent’s mistake doesn’t count.
by omigawda on Oct 23, 2009 1:18 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Are you saying that Dans entire strategy was to have no strategy but wait for Bisping to make one mistake, and exploit that? Because if so, that’s even worse.
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by mythbuster on Oct 23, 2009 1:27 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
No I’m saying he exploited his opponents mistake reactively. The fact that it wasn’t preplanned is irrelevant.
by omigawda on Oct 23, 2009 2:14 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
So I’m confused – why did you say it doesn’t count? Towards what?
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by mythbuster on Oct 23, 2009 3:15 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
(His comment)
(Your head)
Don't argue for the sake of arguing....
by Screwface on Oct 23, 2009 3:35 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions 0 recs
Yeah, I guess so :(
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by mythbuster on Oct 23, 2009 4:03 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
I realize that
I was wondering if it was just random, pointless sarcasm, or if it had anything to do with what I was saying? I’m guessing the former.
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by mythbuster on Oct 23, 2009 8:00 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
The latter, actually. You made a big to do about strategy, gameplanning pre-fight I presume, but didn’t give Dan any credit for what he did reflexively. He did what he needed to do to win the fight and got a pretty KO out of it. He didn’t need anything fancy with Bisping because he’s a much better fighter, can’t criticize him for doing what works.
by omigawda on Oct 23, 2009 8:13 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
3-2 with that strategy. I can criticize him.
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by mythbuster on Oct 23, 2009 10:27 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
You can’t blame Dan for looking for the one punch. He knew in the opening minute Bisping had nothing for him and sooner or later would walk into his right and he could walk out with a $100,000 bonus. Smart strategy.
by nottheface on Oct 23, 2009 1:19 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Sure, but impressive? Not even close. The strategy of “I’m gonna hit ya… I’m gonna hit ya” is not only not impressive, it borderline retarded. Ask Leben, or Guillard, or even see the Henderson-Anderson Silva fight. The strategy only worked against Bisping because Bisping had no power, but was still doing well (on points) until deciding to walk into the punch.
So yeah, I can blame Dan.
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by mythbuster on Oct 23, 2009 1:30 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
It was impressive because it was obvious from the opening minutes how this would play out. Sooner or later Bisping was going to walk into that right. If your opponent is terrified of you and keeps circling into you power hand why should you even try anything else? It was the most sure-fire strategy Hendo could come up with.
And as for Bisping doing well? He was outstruck 24 to 18 and more importantly everything Bisping connected with was a feeble (and I mean feeble) punch while many of Hendo’s strikes were for power. And lets not even talk about Cage control. Hendo was running away with the decision as well.
If anyone is to blame for not having Dan show all his tools, it’s Bisping for being so thoroughly outclassed.
by nottheface on Oct 23, 2009 1:40 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
It was the most sure-fire strategy Hendo could come up with.
It’s his only strategy. As I said below, the fact that Bisping stupidly walked right into the fist doesn’t make the strategy any good.
Hendo was running away with the decision as well.
Could be. I haven’t seen the fight in a while, but I seem to recall that Bisping was out pointing Hendo, while Hendo wandered around looking for his one-trick pony shot.
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by mythbuster on Oct 23, 2009 3:31 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
So exploiting your opponents mistakes is a bad strategy?
Don't argue for the sake of arguing....
by Screwface on Oct 23, 2009 3:39 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions 0 recs
If his strategy was to go in and hope that Bisping made that one mistake so he could capitalize on it – yes, bad strategy.
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by mythbuster on Oct 23, 2009 4:13 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
1) if your opponent proves to be no threat to you, and 2) keeps circling into your power hand I think it’s a pretty good strategy to go fand get that one shot. If Bisping could do anything, and I mean anything, against Hendo and Hendo still looked for the one shot then I would agree with you, but he couldn’t and Hendo took the easiest route to victory – KO Bisping the F out.
by nottheface on Oct 23, 2009 3:43 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
That would be awesome, if that were at all true.
The problem is that it’s Dans only strategy, not the one he chose to use against Bisping because of genius game planning and strategy sessions with his coaches. It’s his only strategy and, as you said, Bisping was no threat to him.
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by mythbuster on Oct 23, 2009 4:16 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Bisping was definitely not outpointing handsome dan
by nastyem on Oct 23, 2009 3:46 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
I'll take your word on it
I remember it differently, but as I said I haven’t seen it in a while.
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by mythbuster on Oct 23, 2009 4:14 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
ah ok, I can clear it up
http://www.bloodyelbow.com/2009/7/10/944651/ufc-100-live-results-and-commentary
Brent agrees with you.
Michael Bisping vs. Dan Henderson – Round 1- 2 fights, 2 USA chants. Jab by Bisping. Dan is cutting off the cage and misses with the right hand. Nice counter by Bisping. Henderson lands a few power shots and Bisping has to retreat. Left hand by Bisping. Henderson again is loading up the right hand. Right hand again by Dan. High kick misses for Bisping. Right hand lands for Michael. Leg kick by Bisping and he is looking a little better here. 1-2 combo by Bisping. Right hand by Bisping again. High kick, left hand which lands for Bisping. Right hand by Bisping again and he is winning the second half of the round. Hendo is mauling him against the cage but they separate. Hendo with a right hand to end the round. 10-9 Henderson. Round 2 – Leg kick by Bisping early. Right hand by Henderson, knee to the body for Bisping. Right hand by Henderson lands solid. Jab by Hendo. Counter right by Bisping. Right hand by Bisping. Knee to the body by Bisping and Hendo is getting a bit off his game having to chase and get a little bit sloppy. Right hand by Henderson and Bisping is out cold! HUGE shot! Wow! Dan Henderson wins by knockout, round 2.
But I still saying Bisping was out pointing him ;)
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by mythbuster on Oct 23, 2009 4:21 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
The strategy only worked against Bisping because Bisping had no power,
That combined with Bisping’s chin – dude got rocked by the King of Rock’n’Rumble for the love of god.
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by The_Gaijin on Oct 23, 2009 3:00 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
lo... wut?
He had never been knocked out before, and his only loss was a split decision to Rashad. Suddenly he has a glass chin?
okeedokee, dude.
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by mythbuster on Oct 23, 2009 3:18 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
If you don’t think Henderson is one of the best UFC fighters I guess I don’t have anything else to say.
Rewtach the fight? Bisping looked terrified of Dan. He got blasted by a right hook. Seems like a pretty good plan to me.
Are you seriously saying it’s a bad strategy to knock someone out and bag KO of the night bonus? Dude, if Bisping is giving it away take it. That’s what Dan did.
Please, remind me when has Dan Henderson ever looked like he was on the decline of a HOF career? He consistently comes in to fight in great shape and proved to be a great coach.
25-7 against basically top shelf talent speaks volumes.
by ThomasJ on Oct 23, 2009 1:41 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
If you don’t think Henderson is one of the best UFC fighters I guess I don’t have anything else to say.
and yet you continued to type. Weird.
Are you seriously saying it’s a bad strategy to knock someone out and bag KO of the night bonus? Dude, if Bisping is giving it away take it. That’s what Dan did.
I’m saying it’s a horrible strategy. The fact that it actually worked (due to the opponents errors) this time doesn’t negate the fact that walking in with your hand cocked is an absolutely stupid strategy.
25-7 against basically top shelf talent speaks volumes.
3-2 in the UFC (current). That speaks a bit for itself.
He lost to Rampage and Silva, and beat Franklin and Poulhares by decision.
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by mythbuster on Oct 23, 2009 3:25 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Lol... wut?
So losing a close decision to Rampage and getting RNC’d by the best fighter in the world means he’s no longer an elite fighter?
Don't argue for the sake of arguing....
by Screwface on Oct 23, 2009 3:44 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions 0 recs
Yes?
I’ll grant you Silva, but Rampage was a legit challenge that he failed, and he went to a decision with Franklin and Poulhares… There’s nothing about that which says “elite!”.
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by mythbuster on Oct 23, 2009 4:12 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
3-2 in the UFC (current). That speaks a bit for itself.
He lost to Rampage and Silva, and beat Franklin and Poulhares by decision
I agree. That speaks for itself
by nottheface on Oct 23, 2009 3:45 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Glad you agree.
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by mythbuster on Oct 23, 2009 4:16 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
I think Dan had his eyes closed as well.
A man should never waste an opportunity to keep his mouth shut.
by iiowyn on Oct 24, 2009 12:39 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
We won’t know the answer to that unless Hendo headlines future PPVs. For now, all we have are the buyrates of the two UFC PPVs that he has headlined:
UFC 93 (With Franklin): 320,000
UFC 82 (With Silva): 325,000
by dv8shun on Oct 23, 2009 1:18 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Why not ? becasue in MMA just like all sports you don’t give huge long contracts to ageing superstars based on hgow they performed on there last contract year AKA walk year or in MMA there last fight . ITs a no no any start GM or promoter knows not to do. And as you said yourself you are not sure if he sells PPV’s or not that is far from being sure something you don’t gamble on.
by Shocbomb on Oct 23, 2009 2:22 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
dan is a complete bad#@$
pay this guy.
by TheProletariat on Oct 23, 2009 12:54 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
“dan isa complete bad#@$a ONE dimensional 39-year-old with no chance of being a contender in TWO divisions.”
Fixed.
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by jemaleddin on Oct 23, 2009 1:44 PM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
He’s a middleweight contender right now though.
by nastyem on Oct 23, 2009 1:46 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Contender for what? You think he has a shot against Silva? I know I don’t.
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by jemaleddin on Oct 23, 2009 1:49 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Personally I doubt he wins against Silva, but that doesn’t rule out his contention for the title.
by nastyem on Oct 23, 2009 2:17 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Can we call it “his pointless contention for the title”?
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by jemaleddin on Oct 23, 2009 3:33 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
He doesn't have a shot against Silva
because he would never make it past Marquart.
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by mythbuster on Oct 23, 2009 3:31 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Indeed.
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by jemaleddin on Oct 23, 2009 3:34 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Pretty harsh
Dan is a great fighter, but not worth nearly what he seems to want.
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by Blackout612 on Oct 23, 2009 1:49 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
This much (you should see my arms right now).
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by Blackout612 on Oct 23, 2009 2:02 PM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
WOW.
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by jemaleddin on Oct 23, 2009 2:04 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
I'm sorry, but this is all crazy
The guy is OLD and getting OLDER. He lost two title shots back to back, and hasn’t really shown why they should keep him around (Are you hoping to catch the replay of the Palhares fight on UFC Unleashed? Me either!) let alone give him a raise.
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by jemaleddin on Oct 23, 2009 1:55 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Well, THIS is a bit crazy
He just demolished the most famous British fighter on their roster, is coming off of coaching TUF, has world class wrestling and (still) heavy hands, can definitely still fight and not everything is about whether or not a guy can win a title. He poses arguably the biggest threat to Anderson, doesn’t that count for something? What if they start this long-rumored 195 division? You’re looking at the champ.
If title contention is how you measure fighters, you must think the whole roster is disposable.
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by Blackout612 on Oct 23, 2009 2:04 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
So:
a) Bisping’s fame and nationality are meaningless. Not as meaningless as his standing in the middleweight division, but…
b) Coaching TUF? Does that make him a better fighter?
c) Sure his wrestling is great – you should remind him of that. He seems to have forgotten.
d) He posed a big threat to Anderson BEFORE they fought. Now? Not so much.
e) I’m not saying vying for the title is the only reason to keep somebody around, but if they can’t do that, they aren’t a draw, they aren’t developing new skills and they’re turning 40, what IS the reason to keep him around? So that the sixteen remaining PRIDE fans who haven’t gotten their “HENDO FOREVER” tattoos removed will enjoy the nostalgia?
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by jemaleddin on Oct 23, 2009 3:56 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Are you fucking kidding?
A) VALUE.
B) VALUE.
C) Really, because he seems to be doing just fine. Huh…
D) He won round one, hombre. That’s well publicized.
E) You’re bending it. The point you made was that he hasn’t shown why they should keep him around, and that’s a point that bucks any conversation regarding his cost. So… If you think Hendo is not a quality talent— a top five talent— then you’re clearly confused. You seem to be torn between whether it matter if he’s popular or not (disregarding what he did to Bisping and his TUF exposure, then polarizing that with his remaining PRIDE hanger’s on), whether or not he’s talented (He doesn’t use his wrestling? Someone should have told Bisping, Toquinho and Franklin that would have made a difference) and that he’s aging (showing no signs of it in his most recent fight).
So, to that point— whether the UFC should want to keep Hendo around?— of course they should.
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by Blackout612 on Oct 23, 2009 4:33 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
What you’re describing is all potential value – not demonstrated value. And potential is something you look for in guys 18-30. Once they hit 40, they’d better draw like Randy.
And should they want to keep him around? Maybe – but is worth any amount of trouble? Is he worth more than he was already getting paid? I’d say no.
(And no, this doesn’t explain Coleman – does anything?)
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by jemaleddin on Oct 24, 2009 6:00 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
IF the fight with Franklin was 5 rounds, Franklin would have won.
A man should never waste an opportunity to keep his mouth shut.
by iiowyn on Oct 24, 2009 12:47 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Agreed.
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by jemaleddin on Oct 24, 2009 5:58 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
He lost to the best MW and the second best LHW the UFC has, that isn’t a reason to fire someone.
Aging on the other hand is totally bullshit and he needs to knock that off.
by omigawda on Oct 23, 2009 2:25 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Agreed.
He should do whatever Randy is doing.
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by jemaleddin on Oct 23, 2009 3:34 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Hormone replacement
Walla walla walla I'm an idiot.
by ufc4 on Oct 23, 2009 5:53 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions 1 recs
RAW will reign for another 100 years.
by omigawda on Oct 23, 2009 7:00 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
He’s three dimensional he throws a right hook, doesn’t get knocked out, and takes people down sometimes.
by omigawda on Oct 23, 2009 2:17 PM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
Where by sometimes
…you mean increasingly infrequently… Sigh.
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by jemaleddin on Oct 23, 2009 3:56 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Yep. Being a Hendo fan is painful sometimes.
by omigawda on Oct 23, 2009 7:00 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Frankly, I think he has a better chance at being successful in the 205 division because there’s more “name” fights for him there and I’d give him pretty good odds against everyone not named Machida.
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by The_Gaijin on Oct 23, 2009 3:02 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
It's just crowded
195, please. They have the talent for it, no doubt.
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by Blackout612 on Oct 23, 2009 3:04 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Do they have enough talent for a 195 division that wouldn’t decimate what was left of the 185 division? I don’t really think so.
by Hardcase on Oct 23, 2009 4:06 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Errr...
205 go down. 185 go up. Division. Yes?
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by Blackout612 on Oct 23, 2009 4:34 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
If only so Wanderlie wouldn’t have to choose between getting mauled by bigger fighters or dehydrating himself to death.
by nottheface on Oct 23, 2009 4:50 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Haha
Yeah, that’s one guy that would certainly benefit. I compiled a list about two months back and it could make for a really awesome division that would not saturate either 185 or 205. Guys like Franklin and Hendo have champion written all over them, but are almost powerless to acquire a title in their current divisions.
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by Blackout612 on Oct 23, 2009 4:57 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
This story has officially jumped the shark.
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by mythbuster on Oct 23, 2009 1:07 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Man, this is a lot of drama for a guy that’s 3-2 in the UFC and has looked unimpressive in TWO title shots. What’s the point in keeping him around? Is Rich Franklin not doing a good enough job as a gatekeeper?
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by jemaleddin on Oct 23, 2009 1:40 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
and has looked unimpressive in TWO title shots
I thought he looked pretty good against Rampage. I’d like to see them fight again actually.
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by The_Gaijin on Oct 23, 2009 3:03 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
I’d like to see him fight Marquart, like he was supposed to.
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by mythbuster on Oct 23, 2009 3:33 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
The reality is
Your not getting highest paid money at 39, with a 3-2 record and very little verified PPV draw
by SimplePsych on Oct 23, 2009 1:56 PM EDT reply actions 2 recs
NBD - Never Believe Dana
When it comes to contract negotiations with fighters, I follow the simple rule above.
by klown on Oct 23, 2009 2:42 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
NBA - Never Believe Anyone
A man should never waste an opportunity to keep his mouth shut.
by iiowyn on Oct 24, 2009 12:50 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
As the great songwriter Frederick Durst once said
It’s all about the he said, she said bullshit.
Walla walla walla I'm an idiot.
by ufc4 on Oct 23, 2009 3:27 PM EDT via mobile reply actions 0 recs
You lose a rec’d for bringing up Limp Bizkit.
by nottheface on Oct 23, 2009 3:46 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Will people quit referencing his 3-2 record? You sound ridiculous when you consider his two losses were to two of the UFC’s five poster boys…
Don't argue for the sake of arguing....
by Screwface on Oct 23, 2009 3:49 PM EDT via mobile reply actions 0 recs
So what? He wants to be paid like said poster boys so why is it unfair to point out that he’s not as good as them?
Walla walla walla I'm an idiot.
by ufc4 on Oct 23, 2009 5:57 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions 0 recs
He gets less than Bisping. I think he’s better than that guy.
by omigawda on Oct 23, 2009 7:38 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
So is Yushin Okami
You think he’s gonna get more than Bisping?
Walla walla walla I'm an idiot.
by ufc4 on Oct 23, 2009 8:08 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Bisping and Hendo were both potential contenders, they’ve had Okami on the backburner for awhile. Obviously Bisping gets a Being British Bonus, but giving more money to the guy they still wanna push as a contender seems sensible to me.
by omigawda on Oct 23, 2009 8:18 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
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