UFC 104: Machida vs. Shogun Weigh-in Results
by Nick Thomas on Oct 23, 2009 8:11 PM EDT
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* Anthony Johnson failed to make weight (176 pounds) and had already notified Yoshida; Johnson will be fined 20% of purse for missing weight. ** Josh Neer and Gleison Tibau have agreed to fight at their failed weights: (video here)
Main Card Bouts:
Lyoto Machida (202.5) vs. Mauricio "Shogun" Rua (204.5)
Ben Rothwell (265) vs. Cain Velasquez (238)
Spencer Fisher (155) vs. Joe Stevenson (155.5)
Anthony Johnson (176)* vs. Yoshiyuki Yoshida (170)
Josh Neer (156.5)** vs. Gleison Tibau (157)**On Spike:
Ryan Bader (205) vs. Eric Schafer (205.5)
Patrick Barry (237) vs. Antoni Hardonk (249.5)Preliminary Bouts:
Yushin Okami (185) vs. Chael Sonnen (185)
Rob Kimmons (185) vs. Jorge Rivera (185)
Razak Al-Hassan (204.5) vs. Kyle Kingsbury (205.5)
Stefan Struve (243.5) vs. Chase Gormley (262)
Also make sure to make BloodyElbow.com your home tomorrow night for live play-by-play, commentary and discussion of UFC 104 beginning at 9 PM EST.
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…does Dana always look so shady?
"Hey, sewer rat may taste like pumpkin pie, but I'd never know 'cause I wouldn't eat the filthy motherf**ker" - Jules Winnfield
by WeaponElDeem on Oct 23, 2009 8:05 AM EDT reply actions 0 recs
He is looking at Shogun like, “dude you better not get your ass kicked in the first 30 seconds”.
for all intents and purposes, just consider all my posts as works of satire.
by Bandaka on Oct 23, 2009 8:17 AM EDT up reply actions 3 recs
LOL
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by Leland Roling on Oct 23, 2009 9:46 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
LMAO. That is a funny observation. I've noticed...
he has the same look during most of the face-offs. You can tell he’s really looking to what their eyes are saying. He mentioned this once in an article…about what he notices at the weigh-ins. He said it’s often his first glimpse of how the guy is going to perform the next day. No secret there. But it is interesting to see the above photo.
Notice Shogun is avoiding eye contact? He’s either nervous or admiring that smart tie.
Forward Ever, Backward Never...
by Tony NJ on Oct 23, 2009 3:57 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
calm down now, a picture can mean many things, where is the video to see if he’s actually avoiding eye contact?
SHOGUN WILL SLAY THE DRAGON!!!
SHOGUN TO BE THE NEW LHW CHAMP!!!
by orcus on Oct 23, 2009 4:12 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
but for fedor is different
it’s not because he’s scared, but for a Brazilian to avoid eye contact would be telling, but this was just a pic!
SHOGUN WILL SLAY THE DRAGON!!!
SHOGUN TO BE THE NEW LHW CHAMP!!!
by orcus on Oct 23, 2009 7:47 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Shogun ALWAYS avoids eye contact. He only looks into his opponents eyes when he shakes their hand. It’s not at all a sign of weakness.
by zeke21 on Oct 23, 2009 8:26 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
I never noticed him avoiding eye contact…
SHOGUN WILL SLAY THE DRAGON!!!
SHOGUN TO BE THE NEW LHW CHAMP!!!
by orcus on Oct 23, 2009 8:33 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
I did, back in pride. he keeps his eyes down and shakes out the arms during the ref’s rules part, then turns into an animal when the bell rings. he never tried to look at the opponent or intimidate them.
by judonerd on Oct 24, 2009 2:18 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
just because he’s not trying to intimidate them doesn’t mean he’s avoiding eye contact. He’s always in a state of mind before the bout begins, he’s concentrating trying to not psych himself out. but he’s not avoiding eye contact.
SHOGUN WILL SLAY THE DRAGON!!!
SHOGUN TO BE THE NEW LHW CHAMP!!!
by orcus on Oct 24, 2009 10:28 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
i love how shogun looks at the belt not at machida, he wont get it though… ;-)
by kovy on Oct 23, 2009 8:40 AM EDT reply actions 0 recs
That’s as close as he’s ever gonna get to it.
Walla walla walla I'm an idiot.
by ufc4 on Oct 23, 2009 9:35 AM EDT via mobile up reply actions 0 recs
Can Machida do no wrong?
He looks like Ryu, fights like a karate master, and now he styles and profiles like Ric Flair. Shogun, Ninja, Samurai, it doesn’t matter what Rua is, he’s just another notch in Machida’s win column.
by black dragon on Oct 23, 2009 8:58 AM EDT reply actions 0 recs
If he Shroyuken’s a fucking fireball, he will go down as a God.
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by Leland Roling on Oct 23, 2009 9:47 AM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
I think Sonnen,Schafer and Yoshida are all pretty live dogs thats some good value. IMO Sonnen has some of the best Wrestling out there and usually only loses buy sub and I dont see Okami pulling that off he is more of a GNP’er.
by TLAoutlaw on Oct 23, 2009 9:00 AM EDT reply actions 0 recs
that fight should have made at least the Spike portion of the undercard.
SHOGUN WILL SLAY THE DRAGON!!!
SHOGUN TO BE THE NEW LHW CHAMP!!!
by orcus on Oct 23, 2009 9:18 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
I don’t think Schafer is, but Yoshida and Sonnen are in my mind.
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by Leland Roling on Oct 23, 2009 9:47 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Suit at presser = Guranteed win (See GSP)
by oasis77 on Oct 23, 2009 9:18 AM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Lol. Ok, but this time it’s for certain!
by oasis77 on Oct 23, 2009 9:21 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Point and match.
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by AJB on Oct 23, 2009 11:24 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
I can hear Rashad's mom now...
“Rashad, I told you to wear a tie to that presser.”
by Razreshat on Oct 23, 2009 12:26 PM EDT up reply actions 3 recs
Lyoto Machida -500 vs. Mauricio “Shogun” Rua +345
wow, just wow. this is going to be a huge upset for sure :P
SHOGUN WILL SLAY THE DRAGON!!!
SHOGUN TO BE THE NEW LHW CHAMP!!!
by orcus on Oct 23, 2009 9:19 AM EDT reply actions 0 recs
I think even Forrest wasn’t such a big underdog to Silva comparing to these numbers. Machidaness has blinded many indeed. Saturday night Shogun is going to slap yall silly!
SHOGUN WILL SLAY THE DRAGON!!!
SHOGUN TO BE THE NEW LHW CHAMP!!!
by orcus on Oct 23, 2009 9:21 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Well since Machida is better than Silva, it makes sens to me.
by oasis77 on Oct 23, 2009 9:22 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
no way
Silva is better. Can Machida do this?
didn’t think so! :P
SHOGUN WILL SLAY THE DRAGON!!!
SHOGUN TO BE THE NEW LHW CHAMP!!!
by orcus on Oct 23, 2009 9:26 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Anderson really needs to bust out a full scale Michael Jackson tribute for his next entrance. His PPV numbers will go through the roof! He dances, he slays, he returns to Brazil with bags of money…
by Kwisatz Haderach on Oct 24, 2009 2:13 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
I heard he was going to do an MJ entrance when he fought Griffen as a tribute to the king of pop, but I don’t know what happened for him not to do it. It would have been awesome, smooth criminal!
SHOGUN WILL SLAY THE DRAGON!!!
SHOGUN TO BE THE NEW LHW CHAMP!!!
by orcus on Oct 24, 2009 10:29 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Be glad Shogun is fully back, though I’d agree he got a bit screwed. In the fifth, I started dreaming about Shogun vs. Anderson for the LHW title. But yes, I still love Lyoto…
by Kwisatz Haderach on Oct 25, 2009 1:05 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
yes, you will be very upset won't you?
by Grappo on Oct 23, 2009 12:56 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
truth be told
I’ll be happy with a Machida win as well, if he beats Shogun than he really is unstoppable, and that means the belt will stay in Brazil for a long time. I’ll just be happier with a Shogun win though, so no, I won’t be upset :P
SHOGUN WILL SLAY THE DRAGON!!!
SHOGUN TO BE THE NEW LHW CHAMP!!!
by orcus on Oct 23, 2009 12:59 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Stage 3 of acceptance: Bargaining.
Keep firing Assholes!
Never trust a man with no shirt on.
by Ubernoober on Oct 23, 2009 1:23 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
haha
but it’s true though, believe it or not I’m a Machida fan. I’ve been defending the guy forever when he was been called boring. I’ve just been following Shogun’s career since he was fighting in Brazil, I’ve become a huge fan over the years, it’s not easy to let go and I won’t let go, even if he get’s forrest griffened by Machidaness (which won’t happen). But I’ll still be a Machida fan even if he wins or loses to Shogun, it’s a matter of weighing who I like the most.
SHOGUN WILL SLAY THE DRAGON!!!
SHOGUN TO BE THE NEW LHW CHAMP!!!
by orcus on Oct 23, 2009 1:33 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
I’m the kind of fan that was calling for Wandy to do his thing a 3rd time against Page, and will call it for Wandy again if they were to fight a fourth time.
SHOGUN WILL SLAY THE DRAGON!!!
SHOGUN TO BE THE NEW LHW CHAMP!!!
by orcus on Oct 23, 2009 1:35 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Don’t worry they won’t.
Walla walla walla I'm an idiot.
by ufc4 on Oct 23, 2009 2:05 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions 0 recs
yeah
I don’t think they’ll allow him to get back to 205, but I can still have hopes! Let’s say Quinton loses his next two fights to Rashad and the loser of Lyoto/Shogun, perhaps the UFC could bring Wandy up to 205 for one last fight with Page, that third fight ended too quick, I wanted to see a war :(
SHOGUN WILL SLAY THE DRAGON!!!
SHOGUN TO BE THE NEW LHW CHAMP!!!
by orcus on Oct 23, 2009 2:31 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Sorry Orcus,
you’re my boy & all but Shogun is going down & going down quickly.
Arguing on the internet is like being in the special olympics, even when you win you are still retarded.
by dnevil001 on Oct 23, 2009 2:47 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
haha
we’ll see. It ain’t over ’till the fat lady sings!
SHOGUN WILL SLAY THE DRAGON!!!
SHOGUN TO BE THE NEW LHW CHAMP!!!
by orcus on Oct 23, 2009 2:51 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
…I think I hear singing
"Hey, sewer rat may taste like pumpkin pie, but I'd never know 'cause I wouldn't eat the filthy motherf**ker" - Jules Winnfield
by WeaponElDeem on Oct 23, 2009 4:20 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Damn Machida looks pissed.
Can’t wait till tomorrow.
Hey, hey, hey hey hey, watch the language, ok? I have a family.
Revenge of the Birds
by Andrew602 on Oct 23, 2009 2:22 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Machida always looks pissed, especially around 6AM every morning.
Keep firing Assholes!
Never trust a man with no shirt on.
by Ubernoober on Oct 23, 2009 2:23 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
lol
that’s when he has to drink his piss!
SHOGUN WILL SLAY THE DRAGON!!!
SHOGUN TO BE THE NEW LHW CHAMP!!!
by orcus on Oct 23, 2009 2:32 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
I drink my own urine, not to help me fight, but because it’s sterile and I like the taste!
"Did you feel you did well against Lindland?" "
Hell no.. I wanted to break the law"
---Rampage
by TearsofaClown on Oct 23, 2009 8:28 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
A couple notes from the weigh ins...
Brandon Vera, Akiyama and I think Belfort will be doing autographs all day. Shane Carwin bailed on the Q&A, but he did come out and shook everyones hand and signed autographs/ took pics. Carwin is really only 6’2" and I’m convinced Lesnar is gonna murder him. He looks about 250lbs right now. Its ridiculously hot out here, good news is the line if finally moving.
All fighters will be signing autographs and taking pics (some before and after) the weigh ins. Everyone in line hates me because I’m under some scaffolding and wood which is giving me awesome shade. My friends are warriors! They’re in line and not complaining saving my spot of course. More when I’m inside. Peace!
"Well... You're damned if you do, and You're damned if you don't."- Bart Simpson
by poundnground on Oct 23, 2009 4:56 PM EDT via mobile reply actions 0 recs
FML
The whole time we were in line was just for autographs. I wasted an hour. And correction! Dan Miller and not belfort is signing autographs. Damn its hot.
"Well... You're damned if you do, and You're damned if you don't."- Bart Simpson
by poundnground on Oct 23, 2009 5:07 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions 0 recs
carwin is around 280 right now.
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by ekc on Oct 24, 2009 1:09 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
ok
Apparently Carwin is doing the Q&A now. I hear him.
"Well... You're damned if you do, and You're damned if you don't."- Bart Simpson
by poundnground on Oct 23, 2009 5:31 PM EDT via mobile reply actions 0 recs
Iole said A Johnson was 10 pounds over this morning at 10. Even if he makes the weight that cut is gonna take a lot out of him, he might be better off only cutting to 173 and paying a penalty.
Walla walla walla I'm an idiot.
by ufc4 on Oct 23, 2009 6:54 PM EDT via mobile reply actions 0 recs
KevinI Hearing that Anthony Johnson was 10 over at 10 a.m. Pacific. Not good. Weighing in about 20 minutes. #UFC
Walla walla walla I'm an idiot.
by ufc4 on Oct 23, 2009 7:00 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Another link – http://assets.espn.go.com/livenow/mma/
by Nick Thomas on Oct 23, 2009 6:57 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
espn's feed is usually better
I'm looking for the chicken and the rice. Please for you give me the chicken then you come with the rice or then you give me the rice and the chicken, I don't care.
by Thulsa Doom on Oct 23, 2009 7:01 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
And HERE we go!
Walla walla walla I'm an idiot.
by ufc4 on Oct 23, 2009 7:02 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Holy crap. Is Logan wearing 40 inch heels, or is she really that tall?
I mean…look! Weigh-ins!
BOOSH
by Farthammer on Oct 23, 2009 7:02 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Hollow Man 3, starring Dana White
This shirt is "dry clean only", which means it's dirty.
by SamCupitt on Oct 24, 2009 12:16 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Stefan "Skyscraper" Struve?
That’s horrible
Walla walla walla I'm an idiot.
by ufc4 on Oct 23, 2009 7:03 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
after the face off Rogan called him Sky slayper
I'm looking for the chicken and the rice. Please for you give me the chicken then you come with the rice or then you give me the rice and the chicken, I don't care.
by Thulsa Doom on Oct 23, 2009 7:05 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
pulling for Struve but he didn’t look to confidant.
I'm looking for the chicken and the rice. Please for you give me the chicken then you come with the rice or then you give me the rice and the chicken, I don't care.
by Thulsa Doom on Oct 23, 2009 7:05 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Razak reminds me of that black kickboxer dude who got owned by Frank Dux in Bloodsport.
I specializes in grammar fail.
by a tommy point on Oct 23, 2009 7:05 PM EDT reply actions 1 recs
I’m not sure this streaming experience is near HD.
by omigawda on Oct 23, 2009 7:06 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Oh Pat Berry’s on now, that’s much better.
by omigawda on Oct 23, 2009 7:08 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
i think venue restraints limit the HD, looks like they are in a giant tent
I'm looking for the chicken and the rice. Please for you give me the chicken then you come with the rice or then you give me the rice and the chicken, I don't care.
by Thulsa Doom on Oct 23, 2009 7:08 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Ya, understandable. It is as smooth as advertised though.
by omigawda on Oct 23, 2009 7:11 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Has Fajita always had pipes like that?
Or did Dana hook him up with whatever he does?
BOOSH
by Farthammer on Oct 23, 2009 7:07 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Looked like Okami had the easier cut, Chael looked mopey.
by omigawda on Oct 23, 2009 7:09 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Chael always looks mopey.
A man should never waste an opportunity to keep his mouth shut.
by iiowyn on Oct 23, 2009 7:28 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Chael usually just looks miserable. Mopey would be a step up.
"I'm AJB and I endorse this nut-puncher."
by AJB on Oct 24, 2009 3:59 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
looking forward to the Hardonk Barry Brawl!
I'm looking for the chicken and the rice. Please for you give me the chicken then you come with the rice or then you give me the rice and the chicken, I don't care.
by Thulsa Doom on Oct 23, 2009 7:10 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Prepare to be let down.
I specializes in grammar fail.
by a tommy point on Oct 23, 2009 7:12 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
looks like you were dead wrong son
I'm looking for the chicken and the rice. Please for you give me the chicken then you come with the rice or then you give me the rice and the chicken, I don't care.
by Thulsa Doom on Oct 26, 2009 10:43 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
I predict leg kicks.
UFC 104=> ben rothwell will UD the shit outta Velasquez.
by spectaa on Oct 23, 2009 7:14 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
wait til Johnson gets on
Walla walla walla I'm an idiot.
by ufc4 on Oct 23, 2009 7:13 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Looks like he knew it too
Walla walla walla I'm an idiot.
by ufc4 on Oct 23, 2009 7:14 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
What a bucket of fail.
I specializes in grammar fail.
by a tommy point on Oct 23, 2009 7:13 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Neither’s going to cut the remaining weight. Kind of lame.
by rabrown on Oct 23, 2009 7:13 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
I'd rather see a decent fight above weight
than two guys gassed from a weight cut. If this fight had any sort of implication, I might care a little more. As it stands, let them fight.
by Shaun32887 on Oct 23, 2009 7:14 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
That's ok
Dana will get that pound, in flesh.
Walla walla walla I'm an idiot.
by ufc4 on Oct 23, 2009 7:14 PM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
rec’d for The Merchant of Venice reference.
by dancingChicken on Oct 24, 2009 2:01 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
wow
coming off a loss too, not lookin good boys
by Shaun32887 on Oct 23, 2009 7:13 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
How many ATT fighters is that now who have missed weight?
by StevenGiles on Oct 23, 2009 7:14 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Easy … they just agreed to fight a pound. Lucky for both.
by Sauce on Oct 23, 2009 7:14 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
I want it noted that I called it in the comments two days ago that Johnson would have a harder time with the weight cut that with Yoshida.
"I'm AJB and I endorse this nut-puncher."
by AJB on Oct 24, 2009 4:00 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Some extra California rolls on this card.
by omigawda on Oct 23, 2009 7:15 PM EDT reply actions 1 recs
Who didn’t see that coming? 185 for you son.
by An0nymous on Oct 23, 2009 7:15 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
!!!! 176!!!
Ladies and gentlemen, this may be AJs last fight at WW.
On that note, he’s going to knock Yoshida’s head off
by Shaun32887 on Oct 23, 2009 7:15 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
His last fight was his last fight at welterweight.
He didn’t make welterweight for this one.
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by The Kittitas Kid on Oct 23, 2009 11:07 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
That's pathetic
Walla walla walla I'm an idiot.
by ufc4 on Oct 23, 2009 7:16 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
what the hell was Rumble’s prob… he looked not all there
I'm looking for the chicken and the rice. Please for you give me the chicken then you come with the rice or then you give me the rice and the chicken, I don't care.
by Thulsa Doom on Oct 23, 2009 7:15 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
doesn’t look good for the fight, I picked Rumble.
I'm looking for the chicken and the rice. Please for you give me the chicken then you come with the rice or then you give me the rice and the chicken, I don't care.
by Thulsa Doom on Oct 23, 2009 7:18 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
That's bullshit
Like AJ wasn’t gonna have enough of a weight advantage
Walla walla walla I'm an idiot.
by ufc4 on Oct 23, 2009 7:17 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Exactly,
I don’t think anyone would fault Yoshida for not taking this fight
by Shaun32887 on Oct 23, 2009 7:18 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
true, but 20% of Aj’s purse is a nice incentive to fight.
by naturalist on Oct 24, 2009 1:48 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Goodbye “OMG JOHNSON WILL KO GSP,” hello “OMG JOHNSON WILL KO ANDERSON SILVA”
by JRN on Oct 23, 2009 7:32 PM EDT up reply actions 3 recs
More like
“OMG JOHNSON WILL KO THE BUFFET TABLE”
Walla walla walla I'm an idiot.
by ufc4 on Oct 23, 2009 7:38 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Nah, he looks in good shape, he’s just too damn big for welterweight. Same thing as McCrory.
"I'm AJB and I endorse this nut-puncher."
by AJB on Oct 24, 2009 4:01 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Rec'd
and seconded
Although detractors decry (MMA) as a brutal, bloody form of human cockfighting, aficionados know it is a brutal, bloody, totally fucking awesome form of human cockfighting. -The Onion
by The Kittitas Kid on Oct 23, 2009 11:08 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
He is always pissed.
"Did you feel you did well against Lindland?" "
Hell no.. I wanted to break the law"
---Rampage
by TearsofaClown on Oct 23, 2009 8:30 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Yoshida is going to break Rumble down.
I specializes in grammar fail.
by a tommy point on Oct 23, 2009 7:16 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Oooh loogit!
A guy made weight!
BOOSH
by Farthammer on Oct 23, 2009 7:16 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Fighters must’ve been hitting the in-and-out burger too much
I'm looking for the chicken and the rice. Please for you give me the chicken then you come with the rice or then you give me the rice and the chicken, I don't care.
by Thulsa Doom on Oct 23, 2009 7:16 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
rumors of a horrifying cut for Rumble.
by Michael Rome on Oct 23, 2009 7:17 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
That's because he's no longer a WW
Just move up already
Walla walla walla I'm an idiot.
by ufc4 on Oct 23, 2009 7:18 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Why did Yoshida not make him lose the weight?
by StevenGiles on Oct 23, 2009 7:18 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Because he can't
The guy would kill himself
Walla walla walla I'm an idiot.
by ufc4 on Oct 23, 2009 7:18 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
A least these guys should both make weight
by Shaun32887 on Oct 23, 2009 7:18 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
So, does Rumble have to try to lose it? That might give Zenko a chance… small one, but still.
by kid_eh on Oct 23, 2009 7:18 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Zenko has more than a small chance
by Meshuggeth on Oct 23, 2009 7:19 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
No
Catchweight
Walla walla walla I'm an idiot.
by ufc4 on Oct 23, 2009 7:19 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
That’s bullshit for Zenko. Why should he have to fight someone 6 pounds over the weight limit? Is there actually a point, or a weight differential, where the commission will step in and not allow the fight to go ahead?
Sorry, he Jason Bourned me.
by MMAussie on Oct 23, 2009 7:24 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
I think probably somewhere around 8 or 9 pounds they wouldn’t allow it
Walla walla walla I'm an idiot.
by ufc4 on Oct 23, 2009 7:37 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Of course you realize this means
Johnson will be about 195 at fight time. It will be another 15 lb overwhelming ala GSP vs BJ Penn II.
It looks like he has grown himself right into the MW division
by SimplePsych on Oct 23, 2009 8:02 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Yes...
but generally if both camps are willing they’d rather go that route than try and make a guy make a legitimately dangerous cut. Fighting a bigger guy is nowhere near as dangerous as someone having to fight with a dehydrated brain
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by Brent Brookhouse on Oct 23, 2009 8:17 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
What happened to all the rumours of Ben being cut and having a totally new physique…?
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by AJB on Oct 24, 2009 4:03 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Come on you giant fucking Wisconsinite!
I'm looking for the chicken and the rice. Please for you give me the chicken then you come with the rice or then you give me the rice and the chicken, I don't care.
by Thulsa Doom on Oct 23, 2009 7:19 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Cain rarely look that small.
UFC 104=> ben rothwell will UD the shit outta Velasquez.
by spectaa on Oct 23, 2009 7:20 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
woo hoo
I guessed 238 for Cain on Twitter, I might win a $50 UFC.com gift certificate
Walla walla walla I'm an idiot.
by ufc4 on Oct 23, 2009 7:22 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
It was just a contest they were having, I was one of 7 correct guesses but of course I didn’t win it (only 1 winner).
Walla walla walla I'm an idiot.
by ufc4 on Oct 23, 2009 7:46 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
apologies
but sometimes personal satisfaction and the ability to brag on BE is the best consolation prize.
by amadeus on Oct 23, 2009 7:48 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
I’d rather have a free UFC hoodie
Walla walla walla I'm an idiot.
by ufc4 on Oct 23, 2009 7:48 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
haha well i see you can't be consoled. how about a hug?
and while we’re on the subject of self-pats on the back, i’d like to point on i called Johnson having to move up yesterday. Not that it matters or anyone cares lol
by amadeus on Oct 23, 2009 7:50 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
I can be consoled
Just buy me the hoodie
Walla walla walla I'm an idiot.
by ufc4 on Oct 23, 2009 7:57 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
He looks a lot less soft then before
but i still say he should either pack on some muscle or try a move to 205 while he’s still young
by amadeus on Oct 23, 2009 7:52 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
How does this work
Fighter A doesn’t make weight, are fighter Bs only options make them lose the weight or accept the fight? What if they can’t lose the weight, is the fight forfeit? How does that work out financially for the fighters involved?
by Shaun32887 on Oct 23, 2009 7:20 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
The fighter over weight usually surrenders about 20% of their purse to the other guy
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by ufc4 on Oct 23, 2009 7:21 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Right
but the fighter a still has to fight fighter b? Doesn’t seem fair, 20% of AJs purse isn’t nearly as big as the extra 6 pounds of muscle he’s carrying to the cage with him
by Shaun32887 on Oct 23, 2009 7:23 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
It’s either that or don’t fight and make no money
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by ufc4 on Oct 23, 2009 7:24 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
exactly
should be 50% of the fighters purse. nip that shit in the bud. the overweight fighter knows his opponent wont walk away from a purse, make less incentive form him to drain himself. taking more money away from fighters who dont make weight will make fighters get closer to weight level sooner and not wait until the day before, making it an almost impossible siituation. 220lbs is what everyone was talking about a few days ago, but he’ll make weight,no sweat….exactly no sweat. :(
by bdw on Oct 23, 2009 9:37 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
I’ve always thought the overweight fighter should have to hand over his entire win bonus if he wins, although I suppose that could lead to shenanigans if the overweight fighter makes a bunch more money than his opponent.
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by FRANKIE on Oct 24, 2009 12:45 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
I think he can refuse the fight too.
UFC 104=> ben rothwell will UD the shit outta Velasquez.
by spectaa on Oct 23, 2009 7:23 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
That's what I was looking for
AJs size was a huge issue, even at 170. At 176, this hardly seems like a fair fight anymore. Do they both get paid nothing if yoshida refuses?
by Shaun32887 on Oct 23, 2009 7:24 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
I’m not sure as it rarely happens in the UFC, but it happened in strikeforce.
UFC 104=> ben rothwell will UD the shit outta Velasquez.
by spectaa on Oct 23, 2009 7:26 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
i wanna thank my daddy my family my wife… and thank you jho rogahn!
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by Thulsa Doom on Oct 23, 2009 7:22 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Johnson fined 20% per Iole
KevinI Johnson will be fined 20 percent of purse for missing weight #UFC
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by ufc4 on Oct 23, 2009 7:22 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Any word on how much of that (if any) Yoshida gets?
by George Lucas on Oct 23, 2009 8:29 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
I thought it was half to the opponent and half to the commission.
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by FRANKIE on Oct 24, 2009 12:47 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
202.5 for Machida
Damn
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by ufc4 on Oct 23, 2009 7:23 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
agreed…
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by Thulsa Doom on Oct 23, 2009 7:24 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
I don’t think it hurts him just seems odd for the champ to come in that far under
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by ufc4 on Oct 23, 2009 7:25 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Maybe he took an Anderson style dump right before the weigh in.
Sorry, he Jason Bourned me.
by MMAussie on Oct 23, 2009 7:26 PM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
poo-i thai
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by woomikee on Oct 24, 2009 12:57 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
How would it break
so that its over for everyone else, but under for machida?
by Shaun32887 on Oct 23, 2009 7:25 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Yeah
Johnson’s fat ass busted it.
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by ufc4 on Oct 23, 2009 7:25 PM EDT up reply actions 4 recs
That is some goddamn FOCUS.
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by themachiavellian on Oct 23, 2009 7:32 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
lol this picture is win.
by I Can't Feel My Face on Oct 23, 2009 7:39 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Shogun can’t look at Machida, too elusive.
UFC 104=> ben rothwell will UD the shit outta Velasquez.
by spectaa on Oct 23, 2009 7:27 PM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
What the heck. He did the same thing in the picture at the top. He’s enamored with his chest.
by omigawda on Oct 23, 2009 7:29 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
he doesnt like to stare, its rude.
headstomps, however…
by judonerd on Oct 24, 2009 2:24 AM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
Its kind of amazing that Lyoto is smaller than Anderson but the champion of a weight class 20 lbs above.
by Michael Rome on Oct 23, 2009 7:29 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
I do think the fact that he doesn’t have to cut greatly enhances his mobility and reaction time come fight night.
by Michael Rome on Oct 23, 2009 7:29 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
That’s what GSP says.
UFC 104=> ben rothwell will UD the shit outta Velasquez.
by spectaa on Oct 23, 2009 7:30 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Totally agree.
If I were to fight at any weight, it would be the weight I walk around at. To me, it’s a huge advantage not having to cut weight.
by goodbones on Oct 24, 2009 12:57 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
agreed
I know this could spark endless debate, and everyone is going to say that their counter striking would cancel each other out
buuutttt….. hypothetically, who would win if points were deducted for not engaging?
by amadeus on Oct 23, 2009 7:45 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
sigh…
if points were deducted for counter striking, this sport would be stupid.
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by SamCupitt on Oct 24, 2009 12:26 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
202.5 for Machida makes me think he had one hell of a camp.
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by iiowyn on Oct 23, 2009 7:31 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Either that or he switched to Diet Piss
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by ufc4 on Oct 23, 2009 7:32 PM EDT up reply actions 5 recs
Machida and Shogun are the headline story on espn.com.
by Jahbulon on Oct 23, 2009 7:46 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Mmmmmmmmm.........new bacon deluxe
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by ufc4 on Oct 23, 2009 7:49 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
DAAAAMMMNNN
is that tie versace? I gotta get his stylist
by amadeus on Oct 23, 2009 7:50 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
I think we should be a little cautious about saying AJ can’t make 170 anymore. After his injury he blew up to 220 lbs without being able to work up, and then tried to burn down to 170. He’s always made it before, and I suspect he’ll make it next time.
by Michael Rome on Oct 23, 2009 7:51 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
i’m just speculating, but he’s so young, and its not only his size that gets affected… bone density, muscle density… if he’s training consistently and hard theres no way that a guy with that frame can continue to make 170
by amadeus on Oct 23, 2009 7:54 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Maybe Johnson shoulda been a little cautious and not put on 20 pounds if he couldn’t get it off in time to fight.
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by ufc4 on Oct 23, 2009 7:56 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
this cut must've been brutal
look at how gaunt his face looks
by amadeus on Oct 23, 2009 7:59 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
BTW
Good job Lorenzo, way to piss of the LA football fans by reminding them the Raiders moved back to Oakland.
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by ufc4 on Oct 23, 2009 7:58 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
LMAO
Cmon guys, I can’t take another these pics
by The Bronzeville Bully on Oct 23, 2009 8:02 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Fighters need to fight at their own natural weight. Stop trying to make up for talent by being bigger than your opponent.
by pandaboy99 on Oct 23, 2009 8:24 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
No...this is a sport...
the cut is a part of the sport. Yes, Johnson should have made weight…he didn’t. Still…it’s not like he has a history of this and he IS coming off of an injury. There is a long list of great fighters who have missed weight following an injury.
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by Brent Brookhouse on Oct 23, 2009 8:45 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
true
the weight cut adds the dynamic brought in by wrestlers, but Johnson may want to really think about going to MW.. What if all that weight he put on wasn’t slop weight? Maybe he’s just gaining man weight
by amadeus on Oct 23, 2009 8:49 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Maybe he is gaining real weight that isn't going away...
it’s probably to early to say. And honestly I think Johnson at middleweight is about 75% the fighter he is at WW
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by Brent Brookhouse on Oct 23, 2009 9:00 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
he's massive
if he puts on some strength with that real weight, he could do well… he’s 6’2" with a 78" reach, with his shoulders that’s a MW build
by amadeus on Oct 23, 2009 9:16 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Johnson would get straight murdered by the top MWs.
by Meshuggeth on Oct 23, 2009 9:58 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Hasn’t he missed weight once before?
by midwestbred on Oct 23, 2009 9:02 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
He missed against
Clementi. He was given a mulligan because it was on short notice as he was replaced another fighter. This is the first time his excuse is due to having trouble losing weight.
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by achengy on Oct 23, 2009 9:26 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
well maybe if Johnson wouldnt be out using his ex GF as his sparring partners and screwing all the women in the bay area as his cardio he would make weight. Johnson would rather order dominoes pizza and run thru burger king that hop on a damn treadmill. He wasn’t fu*king injured his last fight he just knew out being a movie star in Pittsburgh was more important than prepping for a fight! All that know AJ, knows he has the worst work ethic imaginable. There are a ton of guys that would give up there 9-5 and train like horses to have his opportunity, and Rumble takes advantage of all of it!! Get over yourselves.. lets hope Yoshida takes it to the 2nd and 3rd rounds and sees this fool gas out like he always has!! GO YOSHIDA!!!
by ufcfan09 on Oct 24, 2009 1:23 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
he has the worst worth ethic imaginable? really? His interviews, physcique and performances suggest he’s pretty dedicated. I think it’s more likely that he trains pretty hard. I’m certainly hoping so.
by naturalist on Oct 24, 2009 2:07 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
On another note if Rumble wins he should not celebrate but apologize to Yoshida and walk out quietly
by pandaboy99 on Oct 23, 2009 8:27 PM EDT reply actions 1 recs
Drink piss and whoop ass
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by Donkey P3cker on Oct 23, 2009 9:09 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
They're using a digital scale now? Interesting
Johnson didn’t look too good to me. Wonder if this will pull the line back closer to Yoshida? Or does the extra weight push it more in favor of Rumble?
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by jebushchrist on Oct 24, 2009 8:21 AM EDT reply actions 0 recs
I was wondering the same thing about the scale, my guess is that nobody at the CSAC knows how to work the other kind.
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by ufc4 on Oct 24, 2009 9:40 AM EDT via mobile up reply actions 0 recs
Digital is a hell of a lot more accurate
Most go down to 0.1 accuracy. Balance scale? Being off by as much as 0.25 or so is nothing. Now, that may not sound like much…until you’re the one that has to cut it.
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by duck on Oct 24, 2009 11:37 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
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