Dana White Says "Brett Rogers May Knock Fedor Out; It's Terrible"
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Dana "fedor should be fighting Brock Lesnar " that way if Brock wins i can i say i got the best fighter and not strikeforce.
"Frank Mir had a horseshoe up his ass. I told him a year ago. I pulled it out of him and I beat him over the head with it." Brock Lesnar
by pitbull187 on Oct 23, 2009 7:57 AM EDT reply actions 0 recs
If Fedor was fighting Brock then that would mean that Fedor had signed with the UFC. Thus they could claim they had the best fighter regardless of the outcome.
by who me on Oct 23, 2009 8:13 AM EDT via mobile up reply actions 0 recs
Ya but as much as dana hates fedor he sure as hell doesn’t want him to lose before he signs with the UFC. Fedor losing would be flushing millions down the toilet
"Frank Mir had a horseshoe up his ass. I told him a year ago. I pulled it out of him and I beat him over the head with it." Brock Lesnar
by pitbull187 on Oct 23, 2009 8:18 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
My point is dana wants Fedor to lose but only in the UFC to one of his fighters. That way he can say i told you so to all the media and fans who have been bugging him all the way back to pride and before. Fedor signing with the UFC would be nice to Dana. Fedor signing to the UFC and failing would be even better.
"Frank Mir had a horseshoe up his ass. I told him a year ago. I pulled it out of him and I beat him over the head with it." Brock Lesnar
by pitbull187 on Oct 23, 2009 10:29 AM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
Dana wants to get Fedor, and you are right that Dana would be ecstatic if he came to the UFC and lost. But it’s a lot cheaper and easier if Fedor loses outside of the UFC.
Why do you think they released Sylvia? People thought Sylvia had a chance. From Dana’s perspective, it’s a lot better to get someone else to pay Sylvia 800k to beat Fedor than for him to have to pay Fedor millions to come to the UFC and lose. Someone paying Rogers 200k to beat Fedor is even better.
by Phildo on Oct 23, 2009 10:56 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Nobody likes Sylvia, that’s why they let him go. Since he lost the title and wasn’t a draw, there was no reason for the UFC to match what Affliction wanted to pay him.
SHOGUN WILL SLAY THE DRAGON!!!
SHOGUN TO BE THE NEW LHW CHAMP!!!
by orcus on Oct 23, 2009 10:59 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
But he cut him before his contract was up.
he could have very easily kept him around for a few months, dragged his feet, and let him fight some scrub on the way out the door.
by Phildo on Oct 23, 2009 11:00 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
that's true
but I think they were glad they didn’t have to pay him anymore :P
SHOGUN WILL SLAY THE DRAGON!!!
SHOGUN TO BE THE NEW LHW CHAMP!!!
by orcus on Oct 23, 2009 11:20 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Sylvia asked for his release, it was his idea to leave not the UFC’s.
by who me on Oct 23, 2009 5:32 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions 0 recs
It would be flushing more money down the toilet for Fedor.
That would be a big fight because the UFC made it one. They can still make a bunch of money with Brock fighting anyone.
by Phildo on Oct 23, 2009 9:37 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Why would Dana hate Fedor? He doesn’t like his management but that doesn’t mean hates Fedor.
by who me on Oct 23, 2009 5:30 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions 0 recs
Using Machida – Rua as an example of how the best fight the best in the UFC is silly. I agree that Shogun is fighting the best but Lyoto definitely isn’t.
I like Shogun but beating the versions of Liddell and Coleman that he did does not make him the no.2 man in the world at 205.
by goo on Oct 23, 2009 8:09 AM EDT reply actions 1 recs
tru dat dog
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by WeaponElDeem on Oct 23, 2009 8:11 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Mr. T turned down the fight
"Frank Mir had a horseshoe up his ass. I told him a year ago. I pulled it out of him and I beat him over the head with it." Brock Lesnar
by pitbull187 on Oct 23, 2009 8:12 AM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
…
"Hey, sewer rat may taste like pumpkin pie, but I'd never know 'cause I wouldn't eat the filthy motherf**ker" - Jules Winnfield
by WeaponElDeem on Oct 23, 2009 8:26 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
rec’d, and I agree with most, Shogun should have had another fight with a big name before challenging the belt, but it is what it is.
SHOGUN WILL SLAY THE DRAGON!!!
SHOGUN TO BE THE NEW LHW CHAMP!!!
by orcus on Oct 23, 2009 9:45 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
De-rec
Would you have Lyoto fight himself?
Titles are better being defended. Shogun is the highest ranked fighter not booked up or coming off a defeat against Lyoto.
Sigh….
'He built his whole reputation as a waffle house chef. They’ve been serving him up ham and eggs with a side of canned tomatoes' - Don Frye on Fedor Emelianenko
by Well Read Idiot on Oct 23, 2009 8:55 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Wrong
Rampage is.
Walla walla walla I'm an idiot.
by ufc4 on Oct 23, 2009 10:07 AM EDT via mobile up reply actions 0 recs
Shogun is the highest ranked fighter not booked up…
I believe Rampage was booked to fight a Mr. Rashad Evans…
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by themachiavellian on Oct 23, 2009 10:35 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Not anymore.
Walla walla walla I'm an idiot.
by ufc4 on Oct 23, 2009 11:40 AM EDT via mobile up reply actions 0 recs
Hence why I used the past tense...
At the time everything was being scheduled, Jackson chose Evans for the bigger payday. So, the UFC heads picked Shogun to fight Machida. Given the circumstances, they made the best decision possible. I doubt they suspected Rampage would bail on them for a film career – we’re having the benefit of hindsight.
Besides, even if Jackson is free to fight now, what do you want to do? Pull Shogun out 11th-Hour for Quinton?
Ever tried. Ever failed. No matter. Try Again. Fail again. Fail better. -Samuel Beckett
by themachiavellian on Oct 23, 2009 2:58 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
He said fighter, not wannabe actor.
A man should never waste an opportunity to keep his mouth shut.
by iiowyn on Oct 23, 2009 10:44 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Shogun has beaten the tar out of Rampage.
Keep firing Assholes!
Never trust a man with no shirt on.
by Ubernoober on Oct 23, 2009 11:53 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
No you’re right. It made a lot of sense to make this fight.
I just meant that it isn’t the best example Dana could’ve used to show how the best fight the best in the UFC. Regardless of how Shogun’s ranked he really hasn’t looked great.
This is definitely going to be a problem for them going forward because they made him fight so much before giving him a shot at the title. Most of the obvious, big money match-ups for Lyoto will be rematches with people he’s already beaten.
by goo on Oct 23, 2009 10:08 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Huh?
Shogun was ranked #1 prior to the Griffin fight. That loss didn’t drop him THAT much, and he hasn’t been beaten since then. Meanwhile, all the guys above him have lost recently (and Rampage has ‘retired’ for the time being).
Shogun has as a good an argument for the #2 ranking as anyone else. Rashad is the only guy who might have a better argument in his favor.
by Steve4192 on Oct 23, 2009 9:41 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
About Machida/Rua he said:
“You’re not going to see any wrestling, you’re not going to see any jiu jitsu”
He’s been saying that sort of thing more and more lately. It’s stupid and I think he’s wrong this time.
by goo on Oct 23, 2009 8:17 AM EDT reply actions 0 recs
…maybe it’s for service to the casual " I wanna see a big KO, not all these men rolling around in their panties" fans.
I’d like to see this wind up on the ground at some point to…just to see if Lyoto will be as dominating on the ground as he is on his feet.
"Hey, sewer rat may taste like pumpkin pie, but I'd never know 'cause I wouldn't eat the filthy motherf**ker" - Jules Winnfield
by WeaponElDeem on Oct 23, 2009 8:35 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Definitely. Shogun has scored takedowns in all of his UFC fights and he’ll know that he’s making a huge mistake if he doesn’t try and get Lyoto down. I don’t recall ever seeing Machida on his back too so I’m really interested to see what happens if Shogun can get him down.
by rabrown on Oct 23, 2009 9:11 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
it's politics
he’s trying to sell the fight.
SHOGUN WILL SLAY THE DRAGON!!!
SHOGUN TO BE THE NEW LHW CHAMP!!!
by orcus on Oct 23, 2009 9:46 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
I found it funny how at 7:25 of the second video, as soon as he’s asked about Big John he says he had nothing to do with it and says the Athletic Commission had all the say in why Big John is not reffing, but starts itching himself immediately (even though he was still for the whole interview). Maybe I’m paranoid, I’ve been watching Lie to Me a lot.
SHOGUN WILL SLAY THE DRAGON!!!
SHOGUN TO BE THE NEW LHW CHAMP!!!
by orcus on Oct 23, 2009 9:48 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
There is no way in hell that Brett Rodgers KO Fedor! And even if he does, I doubt it will hurt Fedor’s status that much. They will just spin it like, “he just has big hamhocks for fists….”
for all intents and purposes, just consider all my posts as works of satire.
by Bandaka on Oct 23, 2009 8:20 AM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Are you insane?
If Brett KO’s Fedor, the reverberations will be felt on Mars in terms of MMA impact.
by Razreshat on Oct 23, 2009 8:22 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
I agree with Dana on this one. It would be terrible if Rogers beats Fedor.
by cmsove on Oct 23, 2009 8:26 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
You are out of your mind if you truly believe
Fedor losing to Rogers will not hurt his status.
Arguing on the internet is like being in the special olympics, even when you win you are still retarded.
by dnevil001 on Oct 23, 2009 8:38 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
It would hurt his status for sure and probably have the following impact -
- Lesnar
- Rogers
- Fedor
I think that would be the most logical way to rank these guys . And most definitely we’ll see an instant rematch if Fedor loses , I can’t think of anything else Strikeforce can do in that case.
by JoelMan on Oct 23, 2009 8:44 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Agree completely,
they would definitely rematch immediately which I would bet is already in their contract should Rogers win.
Arguing on the internet is like being in the special olympics, even when you win you are still retarded.
by dnevil001 on Oct 23, 2009 8:52 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
“And even if he does, I doubt it will hurt Fedor’s status that much.”
Emelianenko would still be considered one of the very best heavyweights currently. But it would most certainly hurt his claim to being # 1 right now. Having said that, I don’t see a high probability of Fedor losing.
by SlickRick00 on Oct 23, 2009 8:44 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
just feed fedor ice-cream and he should do okay. It is like spinich to his popeye.
for all intents and purposes, just consider all my posts as works of satire.
by Bandaka on Oct 23, 2009 8:48 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
I agree, Brett is pretty easy to take down (Thompson fight , Abongo fight…) , he succeeded to get right back up but try doing that against Fedor … not so sure it’s gonna work . Fedor is stronger than those guys and has better wrestling , take downs and control .
So basically Fedor can probably take Brett down and keep him there , in my humble opinion.
Standing up I don’t know what’s gonna happen , despite the flashy KO it’s still safer to bet Fedor’s technique is superior … but maybe not by much . It’s actually quite a risk for Fedor to stand with Rogers.
by JoelMan on Oct 23, 2009 8:58 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Fedor wins this inside 1 roun by Sub or GnP.
There is no risk. He is fighting a modern day Tank Abbot.
If Fedor doesn’t win insdie the first round I will never wear pants again.
'He built his whole reputation as a waffle house chef. They’ve been serving him up ham and eggs with a side of canned tomatoes' - Don Frye on Fedor Emelianenko
by Well Read Idiot on Oct 23, 2009 9:04 AM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
Haha...
Hilarious.
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by funnytiger on Oct 23, 2009 9:10 AM EDT via mobile up reply actions 0 recs
lol , you sound pretty damn confident . maybe you’re right , we’ll have to see …
by JoelMan on Oct 23, 2009 9:12 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Hawatching MMA not taught you that anything can happen in a fight ? Especiually when one fighter the underdog hear has Huge KO power.
by Shocbomb on Oct 23, 2009 9:49 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Rec'd and Pics!
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by themachiavellian on Oct 23, 2009 10:36 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
You better not welsh.
Keep firing Assholes!
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by Ubernoober on Oct 23, 2009 11:04 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
It won’t hurt Fedors status if he gets Beat and Ko’ed at that – Please tell me his statment is a joke and total sarcasm.
by Shocbomb on Oct 23, 2009 9:45 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Roy Nelson isn't making any good impressions is he?
Strikeforce in 6 months?
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by funnytiger on Oct 23, 2009 9:03 AM EDT via mobile reply actions 0 recs
agreed
DW doesn’t like him at all, if he goes to the TUF finals and loses he’s out of the UFC, if he doesn’t get that far I’m pretty sure he’s out too.
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SHOGUN TO BE THE NEW LHW CHAMP!!!
by orcus on Oct 23, 2009 9:51 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Does Dana not like him
according to what we have seen on TUF so far or does he not like him even after the filming of the show. I haven’t heard one way or another so I didn’t know if he’s come out and said things about him other than after Roy’s first performance.
by soadtrails on Oct 23, 2009 1:48 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Seriously??
You didn’t watch the videos did you? You know, where Dana says Roy Nelson is a moron over and over at one point?
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by funnytiger on Oct 23, 2009 5:45 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions 0 recs
I was on my phone when I commented, I couldn’t watch them. Now I seeees the light.
by soadtrails on Oct 24, 2009 2:05 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Hallelujah!!
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by funnytiger on Oct 26, 2009 9:56 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
The issue has from Roy Nelson, might have stemmed from Roy claiming the UFC asked him to take steroids after he tried to get in the UFC, but they only asked him to shed a few pounds because at the time, cause he has the look of a bar room brawler
by The Bronzeville Bully on Oct 24, 2009 11:12 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Don't listen to Dana White
White attempts to add favor to his heavyweights by discrediting others!!
Of course he doesn’t believe ANYTHING he himself says.
IT IS MARKETING!!
Dana wishes he had Fedor AND Brett Rogers
Wags
by DocWagner on Oct 23, 2009 9:43 AM EDT reply actions 1 recs
Breaking News. Fight promoter wishes he had all top 10 heavyweights, more to come at 11.
by Phildo on Oct 23, 2009 10:58 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
The problem is that he insists Rogers Isn’t top 10…come on, Dana White is simply walking mouth of contradiction.
He made fun of Kimbo Slice when he was at EliteXC, now they virtually vacation together. What will he do if Carwin beats Lesner?
Wags
by DocWagner on Oct 23, 2009 11:56 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
More breaking news.
Fight promoters promote their fighters and talk down their competition.
by Phildo on Oct 23, 2009 12:23 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Amazing how many people just can’t wrap their minds around that very simple fact. Dana is a fight promoter and saying these kinds of things is part of his job. If he wasn’t pushing his guys and downplaying the others then he would be a crappy fight promoter.
by who me on Oct 23, 2009 5:40 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions 0 recs
Hype the greatness of Carwin...you really don't get how this works, do you?
And Rogers isn’t top 10. There is no way that there are only 9 other heavweights in the world better than Rogers. There are at least 2 or 3 in Strikeforce alone. Hell, there are probably 3 or 4 on TUF right now.
by Razreshat on Oct 23, 2009 12:24 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
The main criterion for being a top 10 MMA heavyweight is being fat.
by omigawda on Oct 23, 2009 1:48 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Dana totaly Contradicts himself. Fedor is not fighting top competition in Dana’s opinion, But the next words out of his mouth are Rogers could possibly knock out Fedor ? WTF
by Shocbomb on Oct 23, 2009 9:43 AM EDT reply actions 1 recs
No contradiction, this is MMA and all it takes is one hard shot. GSP wasn’t fighting top competition when Serra put him down like a sick dog.
by Jahbulon on Oct 23, 2009 10:01 AM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
You can’t say the fighter is not worthy in one sentence then say in the next he has a chance beat him. That is a contradiciton if I ever heard one. Its eather one or the other he belongs in there with him or he does not. I know Dana is a promoter and as a promoter hisn ob is a spin, But those statments just make no sence.
by Shocbomb on Oct 23, 2009 10:40 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
He didn’t say he “wasn’t worthy” he said he’s not the best.
by Phildo on Oct 23, 2009 10:59 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
No contradiction.
Two words: Danny Lafever
by Jahbulon on Oct 23, 2009 11:42 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Wow Jahbulon I had no idea the promoter for URC 6 – Ultimate Ring Challenge 6 said before hand that Danny Lafever was a bumb and then in the next sentence said he had a chance to KO Radach.
by Shocbomb on Oct 23, 2009 2:12 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
You can’t say the fighter is not worthy in one sentence then say in the next he has a chance beat him. That is a contradiciton if I ever heard one.
A contradiction is when you make two statements that disagree with each other. Like “I have never been to France. I lived in Paris for 8 years.” There is nothing contradictory about saying that a fighter is not worthy and saying he could knockout his opponent. For example:
1. Anthony “Rumble” Johnson, is not a worthy opponent to fight Fedor, the greatest heavyweight ever.
2. If Anthony “Rumble” Johnson can hit Fedor cleanly on the chin, he has the power to knock him out.
If you really believe that there is an inherent conflict between saying a fighter who’s not worthy has a chance to win, then which of those two statements do you disagree with?
by Jahbulon on Oct 23, 2009 3:46 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Well he also refers to Brock Lesnar as the other best heavyweight when as of now the only thing really known about Lesnar as a fighter is he likes to takes guys down and ground & pound. Yet he’s been hyped as an unstoppable force, because he’s beat up Frank Mir which has happened several times and pounded out a geriatric Randy Couture after clipping him with a punch.
It’s just hype.
by scrambledeggs on Oct 23, 2009 10:05 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
I think it’s a little funny that Dana always gives out about Fedor being ranked so highly despite fighting such lowly-ranked fighters but there’s no question that if Fedor signed he’d get an immediate shot at the title, bypassing any number of legitimate contenders.
by goo on Oct 23, 2009 10:11 AM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Just a reminder…I will delete any comment that includes “First!”
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by Brent Brookhouse on Oct 23, 2009 10:29 AM EDT reply actions 1 recs
Must…not…make…snarky…comment…
A man should never waste an opportunity to keep his mouth shut.
by iiowyn on Oct 23, 2009 10:48 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Rogers is going to win. I should put some money on this fight.
by Reciprocity on Oct 23, 2009 10:40 AM EDT reply actions 0 recs
His only advantage is low expectations.
by omigawda on Oct 23, 2009 1:50 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
No sout throw $50 or $100 down on Rogers if you got it to spare. But I would not be putting more then that down.
by Shocbomb on Oct 23, 2009 10:47 AM EDT reply actions 0 recs
If you’re going to throw away that kind of money, just give it to me.
Keep firing Assholes!
Never trust a man with no shirt on.
by Ubernoober on Oct 23, 2009 11:06 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
You might as well throw it in a wishing well.
by omigawda on Oct 23, 2009 1:51 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
According to the betting odds Rogers has a better chance against Fedor than Shogun against Machida.
Keep firing Assholes!
Never trust a man with no shirt on.
by Ubernoober on Oct 23, 2009 11:07 AM EDT reply actions 2 recs
It’s possible to land punches on Fedor.
Ever tried. Ever failed. No matter. Try Again. Fail again. Fail better. -Samuel Beckett
by themachiavellian on Oct 23, 2009 3:00 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Roy Nelson is not helping himself. He already claimed the UFC told him to take steroids after they asked him to shed a few pound when Roy was trying to get in UFC. He might want just chill with that shit
by The Bronzeville Bully on Oct 23, 2009 11:35 AM EDT reply actions 0 recs
agreed
they’ll only put up with his mouth as long as he is winning.
by ace328 on Oct 23, 2009 11:47 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Or they’ll just feed him to Todd Duffee
Keep firing Assholes!
Never trust a man with no shirt on.
by Ubernoober on Oct 23, 2009 11:55 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Not unless he’s a draw they won’t. And he isn’t.
by omigawda on Oct 23, 2009 1:53 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Uhhhhhh
Roy Nelson wasn’t the only one saying that Kimbo had his entire entourage/family there. See the other fighters’ blogs. Why is Dana lying?
by MMAInFeRioRiTy on Oct 23, 2009 12:36 PM EDT reply actions 1 recs
Some people still think TUF is “reality” and not a game show.
by omigawda on Oct 23, 2009 1:54 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Correct
More than one fighter has said the same thing.
by MMASuPreMaCy on Oct 23, 2009 3:04 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Why would Dana say that there isn't gonna be any BJJ or grappling in the Machida Shogun match?
I heard Shogun saying that he trained alot of BJJ for this fight.
by J_Maddux on Oct 23, 2009 3:25 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Dana Dana Dana....
this dude is a D-bag he bad mouths everyone and anyone that doesn’t think like him. im sick of his lies. wasn’t Brenden saying that Kimbo’s family was there? not Roy. i never heard Roy say anything like that….yet Roy is the one under the bus. that sucks.
by 1WAYtiket on Oct 23, 2009 3:28 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Are people ever going to stop getting so upset about Dana “being a liar.” If dana lying bothers you so much, stop listening to him.
by Phildo on Oct 23, 2009 3:52 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Brett Rogers could knock out Fedor 10 times in a row and I still wouldn’t consider him the best HW in the world. He’s nothing but a hyper-aggressive brawler.
Fedor’s status would surely take a big hit, though. Because, really, there’s no reason why Fedor can’t just out-fox Rogers with relative ease.
Fedor losing would be rough, but the worst part of it would be having to listen to Gus Johnson scream about Rocky over and over and over and over again. I like a lot Gus when he is calling the NCAA tourney, but he just seems so out of place and hokey on the mic for MMA broadcasts.
I specializes in grammar fail.
by a tommy point on Oct 23, 2009 3:56 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
in the herwani interview...
…they discuss there never being a mexican heavyweight champion. wouldn’t ricco qualify?
by woooburn on Oct 24, 2009 1:32 AM EDT reply actions 0 recs
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