Dana White Says Dan Henderson Wants to Be Highest Paid UFC Fighter
by Brent Brookhouse on Oct 22, 2009 7:11 PM EDT
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"We're at a stalemate right now," White said. "The money that [Henderson] is asking for would make him by far the highest-paid guy in the UFC."
- Dana White speaking to MMAJunkie about the Dan Henderson contract negotiations.
If this is true it's an amazing revelation. Dan Henderson has never proven to be a huge draw and we can't accurately gauge where he stands in the eyes of the PPV drawing public after his stint as a coach on The Ultimate Fighter since the blow-off fight for the season was on the loaded UFC 100 card.
Dana goes on to explain that Dan is welcome back to the UFC but only on the contractual terms that the UFC offered. Also, White ran into Hendo's lawyer and Strikeforce CEO Scott Coker having dinner together in L.A. It's hard to believe that if money is truly a motivating factor in Dan's decision making process that Strikeforce will be able to offer the kind of deal that the UFC can. We'll just have to continue to monitor the situation and see where it leads.
While I put a lot of blame on Anderson Silva for the middleweight mess yesterday, it'd be dishonest of me to not admit that Hendo may be deserving of a good chunk of blame when it comes to his own situation.
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I wonder if Hendo wants just one last big payday for he can retire?
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AND TAKE BRIAN SABEAN WITH HIM!!!!!
by 49er16 on Oct 22, 2009 7:17 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
it’d be dishonest of me to not admit that Hendo may be deserving of a good chunk of blame when it comes to his own situation.
Does “a good chunk of the blame” mean “all of the blame”? If so, then I agree. I have no idea what he thinks makes him worth that much money. He hasn’t been impressive in the UFC yet, and his KO of Bisping was nice but had more to do with Bispings ridiculous strategy than Hendo’s “Me gonna punch ya!” tactic.
Goodbye Dan, good riddance. Now we can hopefully have some contenders who want to fight.
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by mythbuster on Oct 22, 2009 7:19 PM EDT reply actions 2 recs
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by mythbuster on Oct 22, 2009 7:36 PM EDT up reply actions 2 recs
Dude, his loss to Silva was REALLY impressive.
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by jemaleddin on Oct 23, 2009 11:40 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Dana is probably lying/parsing words. He does this all the time. I bet Dan is asking for a big upfront amount that would make him the highest paid in some way for a short period, but not over a long haul. That or hes asking for the biggest signing bonus ever.
by Michael Rome on Oct 22, 2009 7:22 PM EDT reply actions 11 recs
Exactly
Not the first time this has happened.
by MMASuPreMaCy on Oct 22, 2009 7:29 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Either way he’s not worth it.
Walla walla walla I'm an idiot.
by ufc4 on Oct 22, 2009 7:35 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions 0 recs
Yea i am in total agreement with you. This is negotiating 101 put out a story that makes the other party seem greedy and way out there and make yourself seem like the reasonable one. In this situation all the observers turns against Hendo (in this case) for being so unreasonable and force Hendo to reduce his demands otherwise he gets a black eye to his image and probably hurt his future drawing power.
by pRoXiMo on Oct 22, 2009 7:37 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Well it’s pretty obvious that Dan is asking for a big contract whether the above statement is true or not, and the guy just is not worth the kind of money a Randy Couture is.
Walla walla walla I'm an idiot.
by ufc4 on Oct 22, 2009 7:41 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions 1 recs
Yea i am sure that he is asking for the biggest possible deal he thinks he can get. I just believe that what Dana is saying is just a little misleading. As i feel that chances are being that this probably is the last contract he’s ever gonna sign therfore he probably wants more in guaranteed money than one that is dependent more on PPV %. And Dana probably rather have a contract more tied to the PPV %. Therefore reducing as much $ liabilities for the UFC.
by pRoXiMo on Oct 22, 2009 8:21 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Yeah, Dana is definitely being a little misleading, but I think Dan is also asking for a lot more than even he knows he can get so I don’t understand the point. If you want to negotiate then do it, if you just want to sit there and pout unless you get a 400% raise then just go home and quit wasting everyone’s time.
Walla walla walla I'm an idiot.
by ufc4 on Oct 22, 2009 8:24 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
The thing is Dan is thinking he settled for less than he should have on his last contract so he wants to add the difference to this contract…
This is worse than MMA math.
by mmalogic on Oct 22, 2009 8:30 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
If he wanted more in this contract he should have beat Rampage or Anderson.
Walla walla walla I'm an idiot.
by ufc4 on Oct 22, 2009 8:31 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
He’s getting more.
If he beats Nate he gets a raise… If He beats Anderson then he’s making bank..
He wanst his money guaranteed and that shit wont fly. If he loses to Nate he’s not even worth his old contract.
by mmalogic on Oct 22, 2009 8:34 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
I guess I should have said “if he wants what he’s asking for”.
Walla walla walla I'm an idiot.
by ufc4 on Oct 22, 2009 9:46 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions 0 recs
Well thats the thing with negotiations you always start higher than you feel you’re worth and then you negotiate down to the reasonable offer. While Dana is supposed to Lowball Hendo and work his way up. But i get the sense that Dana is sticking to his lowball offer (which probably is a slight raise maybe $150K- 200K guarateed) and Hendo is probably looking for $300K. Just my feeling on it.
by pRoXiMo on Oct 22, 2009 8:31 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Hendo is asking for a lot more than $300,000.
Walla walla walla I'm an idiot.
by ufc4 on Oct 22, 2009 9:47 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions 0 recs
..If Dana is being the least bit truthful on this, Dan would have to be asking for at least 500,000 per fight guaranteed. To make him the “highest paid fighter” he would have to top Brock and GSP and there pulling down like 450,000 something to show or something like that. Dan is a great fighter and always brings it but he is not worth that kind of money IMO…his fan base does not dictate that kind of pay.
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by WeaponElDeem on Oct 23, 2009 8:21 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
“The money that [Henderson] is asking for would make him by far the highest-paid guy in the UFC.”
Another possibility he is excluding ppv cuts since it is not guaranteed. If Hendo was asking for $500,000 a fight he would be the highest paid fighter, since, I believe, Brock and a few others make around $400,000 guaranteed. But of course when you add ppv profit shares to him or GSP it can go over a $1,000,000. So Dana is being technically true, but also very misleading.
by nottheface on Oct 22, 2009 7:52 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Chuck gets $500,000 to show so Hendo is asking for more than that.
Walla walla walla I'm an idiot.
by ufc4 on Oct 22, 2009 7:56 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
You’re right, I forgot Chuck.
Or maybe Dana considers Chuck retired and that his pay doesn’t count.
by nottheface on Oct 22, 2009 7:59 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Nah, Dana knows Chuck is coming back whether he wants to admit it publicly or not.
Walla walla walla I'm an idiot.
by ufc4 on Oct 22, 2009 8:07 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
I love Dana, but we all know he’s a compulsive liar and we’re getting used to his tactics now.
by NinjaCodah on Oct 22, 2009 8:00 PM EDT up reply actions 2 recs
So you are saying you are beginning to realize he is a businessman?
A man should never waste an opportunity to keep his mouth shut.
by iiowyn on Oct 23, 2009 10:28 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
If he’s not asking for so much then strikeforce should easily be able to pay what he wants…
by mmalogic on Oct 22, 2009 8:03 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
LOL, so what do YOU think is gonna happen logic?
Walla walla walla I'm an idiot.
by ufc4 on Oct 22, 2009 8:07 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
sometimes you place a pawn out in the open to see if the other side is willing to expose themselves and lose their queen…
Its a no lose situation for Zuffa whether he does or doesnt sign. Hendo is the perfect type of fighter to burn your competitors budget with.
Tim Sylvia was released to burn Afflictions budget, initially so it would be easier to re-sign arlovski… but not only did affliction lose their queen they basically submitted their King as well when bidding went so far and they had to sign arlovski to a more than 3 million dollar deal.
If Affliction didnt sign Tim or Arlovski and some other useless guys they could have signed Tito.
If strikeforce signs Dan… A bunch of people at Zuffa will be smiling.
by mmalogic on Oct 22, 2009 8:16 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
LOL, it obviously depends how much they pay him. No smiling guaranteed.
by MMASuPreMaCy on Oct 23, 2009 1:52 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
LOL, you think Dan fights for charity?
by mmalogic on Oct 23, 2009 5:20 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
He said he doesn’t.
Walla walla walla I'm an idiot.
by ufc4 on Oct 23, 2009 8:48 AM EDT via mobile up reply actions 0 recs
Dan signs with UFC over Strikeforce if the UFC comes within 75% of what Strikeforce offers.
by argyle on Oct 23, 2009 7:41 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
That’s why I don’t see him going to SF. He’s worth too much. I dont’ see SF coming within 75% of what UFC offered.
SF can match or beat the UFC for Nick Diaz and Robbie Lawler, people like Hendo, not so much.
by Phildo on Oct 23, 2009 9:12 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
I gotta admit that I thought this as well. But even if it’s partially true, or half true, it’s still rather mind-blowing to me. I really don’t think he’s worth more than 250k total per fight. Maybe a bonus as a championship clause.
by Dooda on Oct 22, 2009 10:34 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Inside Fights said he wanted a seven figure signing bonus, which is the same TIm Sylvia wanted
by The Bronzeville Bully on Oct 23, 2009 6:04 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
And your evidence of this....
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by jemaleddin on Oct 23, 2009 11:41 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Best Quote In Article
“You know what’s [expletive] hilarious?” White asked. “I went to dinner last night, and [Henderson’s] lawyer and (Strikeforce CEO) Scott Coker are sitting at dinner together last night. I said, ‘What are the [expletive] odds that out of every restaurant in L.A., the one that I go to, these guys are here?’”
LOLZ
by MMASuPreMaCy on Oct 22, 2009 7:26 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Hahaha
That is hilarious.
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by Blackout612 on Oct 22, 2009 7:27 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Whats even more hilarious is if you new how many dinners they had with Tito :)
LOL
by mmalogic on Oct 22, 2009 8:06 PM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
“Hey buddy, I’ll have a, uh, what is it, Coca Cola with uh, the, uh, parmesan, uh, parmesan chicken…..”
Walla walla walla I'm an idiot.
by ufc4 on Oct 22, 2009 8:12 PM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
“Hey homey I don’t tip. I work hard for my money homey. I worked my ass off to get where I’m at homey. I don’t do charity bro.”
by Dooda on Oct 22, 2009 10:39 PM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
Frank warned Coker that Tito was using them for leverage and never had intentions to sign with them. Strikeforce was getting some pub from Tito, so for the cost of a dinner, thats not a bad deal. =)
by MMASuPreMaCy on Oct 23, 2009 1:53 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
what publicity? that they couldnt sign the hottest free agent? Lets see what publicity they get whether they sign or dont sign Hendo…. LOL
by mmalogic on Oct 23, 2009 5:22 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
That publicity worked out nicely for Affliction and Elite
by Phildo on Oct 23, 2009 9:12 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
why don’t they try to work out an incentive where his percentage of the PPV goes up per 100,000 buys? That way, if he is a draw, he makes progressively more money, and if not, then he doesn’t. I definately think Dan should be paid for his contributions to the sport, but lets face it Hughes’ retirement contract is because he’s one of the most recognizable fighters in the world, same with chuck and randy. They made the UFC what it is today while Dan fought in pride, and then got bought out into the UFC, where he hasn’t won a title. I know i’m probably repeating whats been said and what everyones thinking, but I’m a huge Hendo fan and I think he could probably go the distance with any fighter in the Middleweight or LHW division right now, barring an out of nowhere RNC.
by amadeus on Oct 22, 2009 7:27 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
i don’t know why i thought that thought process was completed, but this just seems out of character for what Hendo’s been known as. He deserves to get paid, but maybe they can work in a finishing bonus into his contract so he’d HAVE to finish fights devastatingly like Bisping. Like 250,000 g up front, .25% of PPV or something, a win bonus of 200, and a win bonus of 300,000 if he ends in in awesome fashion
by amadeus on Oct 22, 2009 7:31 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
“We’re at a stalemate right now,” White said. “The money that [Henderson] is asking for would make him by far the highest-paid guy in the UFC.”
I do not believe this.
by scrambledeggs on Oct 22, 2009 7:30 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Gosh, you guys got sources?
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by jemaleddin on Oct 23, 2009 11:48 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
It’s hard to tell what exactly is going on because very few people know what the fighters actually get. It’s got to make negotiations very difficult.
by Phildo on Oct 22, 2009 7:35 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
You hit the nail on the head. All of the under the table bonus money makes it nearly impossible to guage the going rate of your services if youre a fighter. A position the UFC enjoys very much.
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by Day Man on Oct 23, 2009 4:23 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Just another fighter who thinks he is more important than he really is. Good luck in Strikeforce, Dan.
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by Brad Ackerson on Oct 22, 2009 7:45 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
I’ve been telling everyone that Dan was on an ego trip. This guy is pullin a Sylvia and is going to get the same rudeawakening that Big Tim got. These guys have to stop letting these agents mess them up because the body count is starting to add up with guys making dumb business moves that bite them on the ass later on.
by Raker on Oct 22, 2009 7:49 PM EDT reply actions 1 recs
Not Dangerous Dan
The BE article is slightly misleading as it says that DW ran into Hendo at dinner w/ Coker – it wasn’t hEndo, just is atty – if DW ran into hendo at dinner w/ Coker that would have been 500x as awkward as to just seeing his lawyer with coker
by miked612 on Oct 22, 2009 7:53 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Especially if Dana was by himself and was seated at a table nearby and they’d be all like “Would you like to join us, Dana?” and Scott would be all like “No, Dan..” under his breath and Dana would go “It’s okay, I’m just here to grab a quick dinner” and then he’s all like “You look well, Dan” and then storms out while fighting back tears.
Awkwaaaaaaaaard!
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by Blackout612 on Oct 22, 2009 7:59 PM EDT up reply actions 4 recs
Especially if that used to be Dana and Dan’s favorite place.
by nottheface on Oct 22, 2009 8:01 PM EDT up reply actions 3 recs
…and their song came on the jukebox.
I STILL poop rainbows.
by Blackout612 on Oct 22, 2009 8:11 PM EDT up reply actions 3 recs
And Dan was meeting Coker’s parents that night.
Walla walla walla I'm an idiot.
by ufc4 on Oct 22, 2009 8:14 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
…and it starts raining outside right when Dana runs out, and Dan is looking at him but trying not to be deliberate about it while Scott is talking about where they should go on vacation.
I STILL poop rainbows.
by Blackout612 on Oct 22, 2009 8:16 PM EDT up reply actions 3 recs
And he’s all like “Dana! I’m so happy I found you! There’s something… I have to tell you.” and he looks out of the corner of his eye and double takes at Dan and Scott and Dana goes “It’s not what you think!” and Lesnar starts tearing up and goes “I’m pregnant!” and runs off into the darkness and Dana’s all like “Brock! Don’t go!”.
I STILL poop rainbows.
by Blackout612 on Oct 22, 2009 8:22 PM EDT up reply actions 3 recs
and then they all walk into the foggy light. The air is palpatating with electricity. A cool breeze sweeps in from the West.
“Dan I have to get something off my chest”
“What is it Dana?”
“Dan I neeee (/Dana’s body flies 20 feet into the air)”
(VROOOOOOM VROOOOOOM)
Aw shit Rampage just lost another fight. Call the cops again
by ZombieWamma on Oct 22, 2009 8:27 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Brock is cradling Dana’s bloody face. Dana’s trying to talk, spitting and gurgling through the blood, but Brock gently puts his finger to Dana’s lips. “Shhhhhh. I like you perfectly, just the way you are.”
by Dooda on Oct 22, 2009 10:46 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Then a bomb bag explodes and leaves shrapnel everywhere. Officially ruining Dan’s date with Scott.
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by IHateMMA on Oct 22, 2009 8:18 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
You're right....
I misread that. I’ll correct it
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by Brent Brookhouse on Oct 22, 2009 9:56 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
File this under
too much information Dana. Why does White constantly need to make everything public; with the hopes taht the fans take his side and hate on Henderson for being “greedy”. Insane stuff. Negotiations should be kept private. Super, super unprofessional to go public with this stuff.
This is why people hate on Dana and will come back to finally haunt him. While there is no denying all the acomplishments Dana has made to the sport, I honestly cant see a bunch of multi-million dollar investors feeling comfortable investing in the UFC (buying shares) with such a loose cannon in charge.
White is a millionaire and will be set for life but tactics like this can make this sport feel like the WWE sometimes.
by ThomasJ on Oct 22, 2009 8:19 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Well luckily Dana and the Fajitas are fucking rich and don’t need investors.
Walla walla walla I'm an idiot.
by ufc4 on Oct 22, 2009 8:20 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Well
Rumors have been floating out there that they are looking to sell shares of the org.
by ThomasJ on Oct 22, 2009 8:31 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
And Dana quickly debunked those rumors, there was an article on here yesterday about it.
Walla walla walla I'm an idiot.
by ufc4 on Oct 22, 2009 8:32 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
http://www.bloodyelbow.com/2009/10/20/1092607/despite-earlier-statements-dana
Walla walla walla I'm an idiot.
by ufc4 on Oct 22, 2009 8:32 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Wanna trade Scott Boras for Dana?
by ZombieWamma on Oct 22, 2009 8:21 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
I HATE SCOTT BORAS
… and every league should have a salary cap
by MMAWrestling on Oct 22, 2009 8:22 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
This=bullshit
You can spin it any way you want, but pro athletes get offered deals all the time and the terms are made public without that athlete signing.
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by Blackout612 on Oct 22, 2009 8:23 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Not really. It’s more of the “shit talking” that he’s famous for and designed to simply get the fans to hate on Henderson as it is Dan’s fault that he’s not in the uFC.
I highly doubt Dan Henderson said he needs to be the highest paid fighter in the org. I really, really doubt that. He probably wants to be in the top ten or top five and if you base that on talent I’d say he’s worth top ten money. He’s performed at a top tier level for longer then anyone I can think of.
by ThomasJ on Oct 22, 2009 8:30 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
saying that he likes dan and that theres no hard feelings is shit talking?
by mmalogic on Oct 22, 2009 8:31 PM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
cmon dude, he called him ugly
AND said he couldnt read good
by amadeus on Oct 22, 2009 8:32 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Called him a dirty skank too. OH IT’S ON!
by ZombieWamma on Oct 22, 2009 8:35 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
You are working under the same thinking Dan is- because he was a legend in PRIDE the UFC should pay him for it. That doesn’t work.
Walla walla walla I'm an idiot.
by ufc4 on Oct 22, 2009 8:33 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
The whole “pay him for his contributions to the sport” thing gets me every time.
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by Blackout612 on Oct 22, 2009 8:37 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Right, the WWE is the only place where contract negotiations are done in the court of public opinion.
by Phildo on Oct 22, 2009 8:32 PM EDT up reply actions 2 recs
Rec’d. No kidding.
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by Richard Wade on Oct 22, 2009 9:14 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Why does White constantly need to make everything public; with the hopes taht the fans take his side and hate on Henderson for being "greedy".
Well, it’s working. Have you seen the reaction of 95% of the people on this site?
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by The_Gaijin on Oct 23, 2009 9:09 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
When money is involved it is never what you should do it is what you are willing to do.
A man should never waste an opportunity to keep his mouth shut.
by iiowyn on Oct 23, 2009 10:32 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Sweet, we've got something in common.
I’m about to get my drink on and go hook up with 43 of the hottest biddies on campus tonight.
*pfffft
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by Robert Downey Sr. on Oct 22, 2009 9:28 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
i don’t know what to think, i guess will just have to see if Hendo is in the audience Nov 7
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by Krawchuck on Oct 22, 2009 9:59 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
He should be cornering Sokodjou on Nov 7.
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by FRANKIE on Oct 22, 2009 10:24 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
not sure what that will prove.
Tito was in the audience for Affliction, Elite, and Strikeforce. He did commentary for Affliction. How many articles were written saying that his contract with one of those orgs was 99% done?
Don’t read into anything until it is announced that he has signed a contract.
by Phildo on Oct 22, 2009 10:27 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Boooring!
Am I the only one tired of this story already?
by Razreshat on Oct 22, 2009 11:46 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
I'm bored of everyone's baseless opinions....
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by jemaleddin on Oct 23, 2009 11:51 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
I don’t believe Dana for a second. That just sounds ludicrous and when something ludicrous sounding comes out of Dana’s mouth it’s usually the old bullshit express he almost always feeds us. Dana has low credibility and this nonsense is just Dana the PR Guy coming out of his cave again. Does he honestly think we believe this? Cut the sideshow Dana and get back in the negotiating table.
by ndf on Oct 23, 2009 12:14 AM EDT reply actions 1 recs
We know Dana made 350k for his last fight and has said he feels he is worth more than that. If we are talking base pay, the top guys get not that much more than that and Dave Meltzer has reported that Dan is looking for a “major signing bonus” as well.
Obviously not deal is going to net him the 2-4 million dollar paydays that guys like GSP, Lesnar and Couture have made, but it is likely we are talking about a base pay with bonus deal that would pay him over 500k a fight on the average. If true, it would be the biggest deal of any current UFC fighter.
It is worth noting that Soko was initially asking for huge money to sign. This was back when he danced with several companies before coming back and doing a deal with the UFC.
by Lynchman on Oct 23, 2009 12:35 AM EDT reply actions 0 recs
I meant DAN made 350k for his last fight.
by Lynchman on Oct 23, 2009 12:35 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Of course $100,000 was for KO of the night bonus and not part of his actual contract.
Sherdog has some interesting points:
http://www.sherdog.com/news/news/henderson-denies-whites-contract-claims-20492
Highlights:
Dan understands and we have a certain belief on where he stands in the hierarchy. Certainly there are champions and former UFC champions that deserve to be paid more than Dan."
Crecy added that Henderson’s counteroffer to the new contract presented to him last July likely wouldn’t even place him among the top 10 athletes in the organization in terms of pay.
Recent Internet rumblings have suggested the sides are stuck on a seven-figure signing bonus the fighter had requested. The UFC has issued signing bonuses to a handful of athletes in the past, though that information is never made public.
"The only reason we spoke with Strikeforce, if I’m not mistaken, was because Dana suggested we do so, at a time when he said the UFC wasn’t prepared to pay Dan what he’s asking, and that’s fine," said Crecy.
If I had to guess, nothing will get settled until after Nov 7th. If Strikeforce has huge numbers and Gegard looks great look for Dana to go running after Dan. If the opposite happens, Dan comes back with hat in hand.
by nottheface on Oct 23, 2009 1:30 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Aaron Crecy, Henderson’s friend and business partner, on Thursday afternoon disputed the idea that Henderson was pricing himself out of the market.
"Based on conversations we’ve had with other fighters and managers, we don’t believe that to be the case," he said.
Crecy stated it was the second meeting between Fagan and Strikeforce, the first being an informal coffee meeting two weeks prior.
http://www.mmaweekly.com/absolutenm/templates/dailynews.asp?articleid=9837&zoneid=13
by MMASuPreMaCy on Oct 23, 2009 2:19 AM EDT reply actions 0 recs
The problem is Dan isn’t worth as much as those other guys so asking for that kind of money is stupid.
Walla walla walla I'm an idiot.
by ufc4 on Oct 23, 2009 8:53 AM EDT via mobile up reply actions 0 recs
Dan should have tried his hand at fighting Nate, if he won he could have asked for more money.
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by Bandaka on Oct 23, 2009 8:28 AM EDT reply actions 0 recs
You can’t fight without a contract and the UFC isn’t gonna give him a one fight deal.
Walla walla walla I'm an idiot.
by ufc4 on Oct 23, 2009 9:20 AM EDT via mobile up reply actions 0 recs
Negotiation theory :
BATNA (best alternative to a negotiated agreement) – in this case, Strikeforce, by showing he has alternatives he strengthens his negotiating power. Dana white counters by basically saying his BATNA is to let Henderson go and that’s more desirable to him than paying out.
Anchoring point: – basically the opening offer, whoever controls this statistically gets a better deal, hence its advantageous for hendo to set a really high number
ZOPA (zone of possible agreement) – The zone between the maximum the UFC will pay and the minimum hendo will take. Since negotiations fell apart we can conclude that their numbers don’t overlap thus they have no ZOPA.
by IpullguardIRL on Oct 23, 2009 9:33 AM EDT reply actions 0 recs
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