Dana White Confirms UFC Headed to Virginia for UFC Fight Night 20

by Luke Thomas on Oct 21, 2009 11:00 PM EDT in MMA News

B.J. Koubaroulis of the Washington Post has the story:

Ultimate Fighting Championship President Dana White confirmed Tuesday that he plans to make the Washington D.C. market a new destination for his growing martial arts business.

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White said that he expects the show's attendance numbers to confirm his belief that the Washington area is a fertile place to bring bigger shows such as Saturday's UFC 104, a pay-per-view event that will take place at the Staples Center in Los Angeles. UFC 104 features a main event between current light heavyweight champion Lyoto Machida and Mauricio "Shogun" Rua.

The Jan. 11 show is "not a market test," said White. "We don't test markets. We go in and we pretty much know what we're going to do when we go in. We believe that there's enough people that live there and will travel there that this thing will sell out quick."

I'll go on the record now and say I'll be surprised if the UFC achieves a sell out of the Patriot Center, although I do anticipate they'll set the all-time MMA attendance record at the venue that's currently held by the UWC.

And speaking of the UWC and the grossly inept Virginia athletic commission, Koubaroulis uncovered this:

Foran, however, said on Tuesday that he has doubts about his organization returning to Patriot Center, citing a lack of support from local martial arts schools, businesses and media as well as a controversial ending to Anacostia native Mike Easton's fight earlier this month against Chase Beebe. Easton was declared the winner in a split decision over Beebe during UWC7: Redemption on Oct. 3. Foran and many others dispute the decision and blame Virginia's athletic commission for a botched scorecard.

"Here I am and I'm talking to Dana White and [UFC Vice President] Joe Silva and saying here's a great market you need to go to," Foran said. "And now I feel like I get screwed on a call on a fight. We're not saying we wouldn't come back to D.C. but what option do we have? In D.C., I'm dragging people to the finish line and other places they are throwing venues and incentives at me."

I still cannot believe the UFC has not offered comment on the situation regarding Virginia's athletic commission. White has not passed on a single opportunity to publicly denigrate referees who he believes are not up to the task of their professional responsibilities, e.g. Steve Mazzagatti, yet we have not received word about how the world's premier organization feels about an athletic commission that allows fighters to compete while wearing pants.

I also find it strangely ironic that the biggest regional show in the area is (at least temporarily) leaving because of a motivated albeit burgeoning fanbase, unwilling media partners and inept commission while the world's most significant organization is making their first appearance. I certainly hope the UFC's entrance in the market spurs more fan and media interest while their proactive guidance of the athletic commission helps to shore up that body's glaring deficiencies. But I'm also alarmed that such a gross injustice can be done to fighters and promoters in the area in such closely timed proximity without the UFC so much as acknowledging something is amiss and needs to be corrected.

I'm happy to be able to attend a local UFC show, but not at the cost paid by Jose Villarisco, Freddy Assuncao and Chase Beebe. Why is there silence?

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Nate Diaz vs. Gray Maynard (main event)
Josh Koscheck vs. Mike Pierce (main card)
Jeremy Stephens vs. Nik Lentz
Rick Story vs. Jesse Lennox
Chris Leben vs. Jay Silva
Rory MacDonald vs. Mike Guymon
Tom Lawlor vs. Aaron Simpson
Kyle Bradley vs. Rafael Dos Anjos (prelims)
Efrain Escudero vs. TBA

I got a feeling Silva/Leben will be a main card event. Just the usual 4 fights and a ton of prelims.

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by SSreporters on Oct 21, 2009 11:17 PM EDT reply actions

Why would the UFC publically comment on the VA commision’s failure when they are trying to keep business relations with that org nice and friendly? Honey and vinegar. Pointing at the emperor’s clothes is a job reserved for fools and children.

by judonerd on Oct 21, 2009 11:20 PM EDT reply actions 1 recs

They don’t have to articulate the commission’s every failure, though numerous in number they certainly are. But to pretend that nothing happened when all kinds of basic functions were not met is not ok. This is basic PR. At least comment that like they do with every show, they’re working with the commission to ensure that the fights are properly regulated.

We are not talking about a commission that just isn’t great. We are talking about one that has fundamental problems. They shaved off 47 seconds of a round because the time keeper assumed he/she was in charge of starting a round, when they are not. That is a BASIC failure to do a job. If the UFC takes safe, regulated MMA seriously, then pretending nothing happened here betrays those ideals.

I don’t need corroboration that Virginia’s commission is terrible. I need to know that somehow they know, but that the sport is still in good hands when they travel here. It’s a basic request and I only make it because of the monumental failings of a commission.

by Luke Thomas on Oct 21, 2009 11:43 PM EDT up reply actions

"If the UFC takes safe, regulated MMA seriously, then pretending nothing happened here betrays those ideals."

I was under the impression the UFC took money making seriously. An organization that took safe, regulated MMA seriously would not continue to trot out broken down old horses in order to put over younger fighters (Coleman, Shamrock a few years ago), and would set up some kind of pension system for fighters after they retire. Instead, we have a sport in which no one knows the long-term consequences of that many strikes to the head with such small gloves (although Gladwell’s New Yorker article has some chilling implications) and the fighters can’t retire because there’s no other way to make money if you haven’t opened a school.

White/Fertittas have never behaved in a way that makes me believe they have the best interests of the fighters or sport at heart and, in fairness, I’ve rarely seen them pretend to. When a money maker like Rampage is in legal trouble, they go get him. Where were they for Junie this month? Kopenhaver before that? They grind these mentally unstable kids up for reality-show ratings, then leave them to their fates.

I’m not trying to start a fight, but the above post borders on naivete.

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by The Kittitas Kid on Oct 22, 2009 11:39 AM EDT up reply actions

There will be a sellout

When people in a new market haven’t had the opportunity to see a show, they will turn out in large numbers. No MMA fan is going to miss the UFC.

Not to sound callous, but the whole Beebe, Easton mess is just one of the problems for a small promotion. Dana is not going to go out of his way to provide an opinion for a franchise that does not concern him.

Dana commented on Mazzagati because his reffing affected UFC fights, not for the welfare of the sport.
The UFC will be fine and the masses will come out in droves.

by cyke on Oct 21, 2009 11:54 PM EDT reply actions

It will only sellout if the Richmond crowd makes the trek, which they very well might. Still, I remain skeptical.

by Luke Thomas on Oct 21, 2009 11:57 PM EDT up reply actions

and Baltimore!!! (Which they will…) Just because 1057 fired Dukes for Ed Norris doesn’t mean that the city sucks.

by MattTil on Oct 22, 2009 1:02 AM EDT up reply actions

It will sell out

It’s not that big a venue – 10K seats, and I doubt they’ll have that many set up. I’ve seen a few shows there (yes, including the Wiggles), and it’s just off the Beltway, so it’s convenient for all of Northern Virginia and Maryland. Baltimore would be a 1 hour ride. UFC fans would travel that far, I’d suspect.

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by duck on Oct 22, 2009 6:56 AM EDT up reply actions

I am splitting the difference...

Given that it is a Monday night and people have to work on Tuesday many won’t be able to travel from that far….. I think the Patriot Center will be close to capacity… With quite a few tickets given to the much deserving vets, wounded warriors from Walter Reed…. IMO…

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by DeepStrike on Oct 22, 2009 10:01 AM EDT up reply actions

We’re are seriously jonesing for UFC to comeback to Minnesota. Even if it was a fight night.

I'm looking for the chicken and the rice. Please for you give me the chicken then you come with the rice or then you give me the rice and the chicken, I don't care.

by Thulsa Doom on Oct 22, 2009 12:22 AM EDT reply actions

It will only sellout if the Richmond crowd makes the trek, which they very well might. Still, I remain skeptical.

I tend to disagree, Luke. I think there is enough of a fanbase between D.C. and Fredericksburg to almost fill the Patriot Center. Plus with Koshcheck on the card, people should be coming from PA as well!

by DroppinHammers on Oct 22, 2009 12:45 AM EDT reply actions

Sell Out?

Maybe. The UWC did all they could do. 5000 people is the max for the UWC. They used all the same fighters almost every show. But the UFC has the name. I will buy a cheap seat to the show. That was the problem with the UWC, the ticket prices were too high. If they brought them down, more people would have come.

I will not buy a premium seat for the UFC Fight Night show, as none of my favorite fighters are on the card. I’ll wait for a real UFC show at the Verizon Center and pay the big bucks for a star studded show.

by wandyman on Oct 22, 2009 12:50 AM EDT reply actions

I hope you have a UFC fight club membership cause all the cheap tickets will be bought up and sold on the secondary market. This is a big show for this area and people who aren’t even fans of the sport in this fickle DC area will be clamoring for tickets. The UFC in the NOVA area is going to be hottest ticket in town. The Nova area is still a BIG MONEY area and the Patriot Center is going to sell out with ease, I’m shocked this was even a discussion

by BSurely on Oct 22, 2009 2:11 AM EDT up reply actions

THEN WHAT?

The UFC will come in January with a “FREE” televised Fight Night at an older NON state of the art, med sized venue (that really shows how much confidence they have in the area) and if DC, MD, and VA are lucky they (BIG IF) MAY return in a year or more?

So unless the UWC decides to do another show in that area in 2010 there will be NO high level MMA show at ALL for the rest of 2010…

I traveled over 2 hours each way to SUPPORT the growth of MMA (the SPORT) to attend the UWC shows and they provided the DC area and entire Mid Atlantic with the best up and coming show on the East Coast with the best up and coming talent in the sport. They brought international caliber fights and produced fighters that the UFC and WEC are actively pursuing. They did it in less than 7 shows and that’s more than 99% of the MMA shows out there can say…

I don’t blame the UWC for looking at other cities that are willing to welcome them with open arms and appreciate the level of fights and production they bring.

Ticket prices? LOL…If you think the UWC was too expensive then you better not even think about buying UFC tickets, and this is just the cheapest it gets FIGHT NIGHT show pricing.

The UWC made an impact on the sport for the DC area and is partly responsible for growing MMA in the Mid Atlantic and that is what attracted the UFC. If it was becuase they cared about the fans in that area so much then what took them so long to bring a show?

Can anyone even uncover 1 (one) piece of documentation that the UFC has EVER considered coming to the DC area before now.

Keep in mind the UFC has been to just about every other major city besides our country’s Nations Capital area? White has probably been to DC more times to accept awards then he has considered bringing any level UFC show.

Its only taken 100 plus shows and how many years for them to recognize the DC area fans?

by ALMEGA on Oct 22, 2009 2:12 AM EDT reply actions

Are you for real?

It’s a UFC Fight Night card on a Monday Night, what did you expect them to do, try and book the Verizon Center?

by Zack Gobie on Oct 22, 2009 6:39 PM EDT up reply actions

Virginia is for (Ultimate) Fighters

I think it’s silly to expect the UFC to comment on or even truly know about the transgressions of the Virginia Athletic Commission against a regional show. While it’s true that Marcello Foran may have discussed some of the goings on in this area vis a vis the athletic commission, I find it hard to believe that Dana White would take too seriously any second-hand accounts of athletic commission malfeasance.

I understand that Dana is very outspoken in his angst regarding certain referees, but improper judging, weigh-in practices, and application of the rules governing fighter apparel is a different kettle of fish from Dana’s familiar sore subject. My guess would be that there would be a certain level of expectation by Dana that, as his company is much higher on the totem pole than UWC, the Virginia Athletic Commission would tighten up these now familiar loose ends. Alternately, Dana may just feel that he’ll allow the commission a chance to err while handling UFC business before crushing them. He’s minding his own business for the time being, and while it’s easy to argue that it would be wise to be proactive in this situation rather than being forced to react later, there is a certain amount of diplomacy evidenced by Dana’s lack of attack against the Virginia Athletic Commission.

Or, perhaps, the attack is just coming shortly.

As for the UFC coming to Virginia in early January, I would just point out that there is a fair amount of risk that snow and ice will play a factor in the fans ability to travel to the Patriot Center. I, for example, will be traveling from Baltimore to attend Fight Night 20, and if the weather is particularly poor (and my understanding is that we are to have a nasty winter, but I feel like I hear that every year), it’s going to make my commute either very difficult or nigh impossible. Will people think about that when it comes time to make a decision on whether or not to purchase tickets? Probably not, knowing some of these dopey MMA fans, but if you’ve lived in the Baltimore/Washington area for any period of time, you understand that the weather is unpredictable and, during the winter, can be just awful. I just don’t see a postponement of a UFC event due to snow and ice, but I suppose it’s possible. Although the Patriots will be in season at that time, it looks like the Patriot Center will be available on January 12 if necessary. Mason is home against Georgia State on the 13, so that’s out, but then after that the arena is likely available until January 27. Then again, what do you suppose is the likelihood of Spike changing the air date of a live sporting event at the last minute because of some regional snow and ice?

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by Brett Jones on Oct 22, 2009 6:54 AM EDT reply actions

Not sure that a rain date, so to speak, would even be an option. With fighters and weights and all that. Has the UFC ever had to contend with snow? The vast majority of there events taking place in warm weather location, it may have never come up.

Also, I think Dana is reserving judgement until he has an event there. Perhaps this is the reason he want to go to VA? Maybe he wants to bring this issue up.

by szucconi on Oct 22, 2009 7:51 AM EDT up reply actions

You know, I would think there would be a contingency plan in place in case a show needed to be bumped back a day due to unforeseen circumstances, but considering the recent transgressions of the Virginia Athletic Commission, I’m not even sure they’ll weigh the fighters in on scales. Well, they’ll probably use scales, but they’ll complain that all of the fighters missed weight, having weighed the same as a duck.

...Behold, a pale horse. The man that sat upon it was Wieters, and hell followed with him.

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by Brett Jones on Oct 22, 2009 9:20 AM EDT up reply actions

Lets just hope no one gets turned into a Newt...

by Razreshat on Oct 22, 2009 9:54 AM EDT up reply actions

They’ll get better.

by szucconi on Oct 22, 2009 9:55 AM EDT up reply actions 1 recs

OMG... Snow!

Hey,

I guess you will let bad weather make you stay home with 500 dollar seats. YEAH, I THOUGHT SO. LoL.

by wandyman on Oct 22, 2009 8:19 AM EDT up reply actions

OMG... Reading!

Hey,

I guess you don’t understand that ice and snow can make for conditions in which it is nigh impossible to drive, particularly over great distances. I also guess that you don’t understand that not every person will be paying 500 dollars for their seats. YEAH, I THOUGH SO. LoL.

...Behold, a pale horse. The man that sat upon it was Wieters, and hell followed with him.

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by Brett Jones on Oct 22, 2009 9:06 AM EDT up reply actions

YEAH, I THOUGHT SO. LoL part 2.

I know I won’t pay 500 bucks for a fight night. I paid for 3rd row at pride 33 in Vegas, and it was well worth it. At the time, there were 10 top 10 ranked fighters all in the same night.
But a UFC fight night will not make me shell out the bucks.

But I will buy some chains for my tires, as everyone is convinced it’s gonna be bad traveling. OMG snow in Va! I’ve dealt with this crap since the 80’s, I’m used to it. It’s kinda like being a fighter and getting over being punched in the nose. Either you do, or don’t.

by wandyman on Oct 22, 2009 9:50 AM EDT up reply actions

Brett’s wife is a teacher so they happily panic at the thought of snow. I will drive. You have to understand that we grew up in county that was second on the list to plow. You get zero snow removal for 24 hours. Also, Brett drives to fast to be safe in the snow.

Also,

3rd row at pride 33 in Vegas

I hate you.

by szucconi on Oct 22, 2009 9:55 AM EDT up reply actions

Also, Brett drives to fast to be safe in the snow.

I can’t even argue against that. I’ve done 360s on multiple occasions and I’ve nearly driven into two different houses. That’s my problem, I get fed up with these dopes that drive 5mph (total) because there are some flurries, so I compensate by driving, say, 5mph below the speed limit and it just doesn’t seem to work out so well for me.

Though in fairness, those were in low-sitting, rear wheel drive cars. Now I have a low-sitting front wheel drive car. Which, as it turns out, is not actually any better in the ice than any of my other cars were. I guess it’s better in snow, but I don’t really notice a difference since I can’t even get up the hill in our neighborhood with anything more than an inch or two on the ground. Of course, they don’t bother to plow until 4:30pm, and do I get off work? Hell no!

I just need a gigantic truck. Gravedigger, for example. That’d solve all of my problems.

...Behold, a pale horse. The man that sat upon it was Wieters, and hell followed with him.

"BJ on the BE" - Kierkegaard

by Brett Jones on Oct 22, 2009 12:08 PM EDT up reply actions

When you die, leave me your house. I mean, you can’t leave it to your wife since women can’t own property.

by szucconi on Oct 22, 2009 12:16 PM EDT up reply actions

That joke probably won’t play here, but I laughed.

...Behold, a pale horse. The man that sat upon it was Wieters, and hell followed with him.

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by Brett Jones on Oct 22, 2009 12:28 PM EDT up reply actions

We usually get snow in February

Not January.

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by funnytiger on Oct 22, 2009 9:05 AM EDT up reply actions

What’s “usually” with weather?

I’m a January baby, and I remember one year we were in Columbia and between the time we arrived for the party and the time we left we were just inundated with snow. I had to stay at a friend’s grandparents while my mother took some of the kids home and my step father took the other kids home. We’re talking it took a couple hours (as misadventures in the snow through some folks front lawns) to go from Howard to Carroll county. Well, that’s the story as I’ve been told, anyway. Like I said, I was stranded overnight in Columbia.

Don’t get me wrong, we’re not talking about UFC running a show in Nome, Alaska, but any significant precipitation during the Winter months usually pushes the snow removal infrastructure to the limit, if not beyond. It’s probably a minor concern, but you can’t actually be surprised if on Monday, January 11, 2010, the weather makes travel a complete pain in the ass.

...Behold, a pale horse. The man that sat upon it was Wieters, and hell followed with him.

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by Brett Jones on Oct 22, 2009 9:14 AM EDT up reply actions

I was raised in Columbia actually

And I can tell you snow in January is unusual. I also remember the blizzard of… was that 1996? No school for like 2 weeks. It was AWESOME.

Now, that is not to say we don’t get our fair sure of flurries, which we do, but that NEVER sticks. Doesn’t mean people don’t drive like dicks in the DC, MD, VA area but I am skeptical of any kind of real weather issues that early in January.

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by funnytiger on Oct 22, 2009 10:29 AM EDT up reply actions

Blizzard of 96 was badass, it was like a second winter vacation from school; god I miss being able to look forward to snow days… :(

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by Patrick Tenney on Oct 22, 2009 10:46 AM EDT up reply actions

I know right!

My job has that “if you think you can make it safely” rule which really means “get your ass to work anyway”. >:(

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by funnytiger on Oct 22, 2009 10:50 AM EDT up reply actions

Our “get to work safely” rule is actually “get to work, in one piece or many, just get there”. I miss liking snow.

by Patrick Tenney on Oct 22, 2009 10:57 AM EDT up reply actions

I miss liking snow.

My sentiments exactly.

We have a snow hotline, and I don’t know why, because any time you call it, all you hear is a guy in a completely obnoxious and mocking tone telling you that there’s no delay and no closure and that the building will be opening on time.

It makes me want to punch someone in the face every time I call, and yet I keep calling. It’s more or less the definition of insanity.

...Behold, a pale horse. The man that sat upon it was Wieters, and hell followed with him.

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by Brett Jones on Oct 22, 2009 11:50 AM EDT up reply actions

If the odds of dying on the way to work are 50% or higher, please make every effort to come in anyway. If your car is stuck, take a bus. If the bus isn’t running, walk. If you can’t walk, you’re fired.

I doubt it made national news, since everyone had a pretty awful winter, but Seattle’s (former) mayor didn’t even make the primaries for re-election because of how poorly the city handled the snow. 6 inches of snow managed to COMPLETELY paralyze the city.

And my company didn’t shut down for even a single day (though I note most fo the salaried folks “couldn’t make it in….”)

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by woomikee on Oct 22, 2009 1:26 PM EDT up reply actions

Yeah, my understanding is that Seattle has no infrastructure in place for dealing with snowfall. That seems weird to me, with it being a northern city and all, but what do I know about precipitation in Seattle? Not much, that’s what.

...Behold, a pale horse. The man that sat upon it was Wieters, and hell followed with him.

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by Brett Jones on Oct 22, 2009 2:13 PM EDT up reply actions

The Blizzard of 96 was a fabulous time in which my brother, a kid up the street, and I attempted to kill each other in the sport of full contact sledding, which as far as I know we invented. And yes, we were on sleds with metal runners, none of this bullshit the kids use nowadays where it’s all plastic or whatever other nonsense.

There were three sleds: the slow one, the fast one, and the death sled. The death sled attempted to kill whomever rode upon it. It was possessed. For example, when I rode on it on two seperate trips down a hill, it first threw me off then in a feat that defies physics, ran over my arm. As an encore, despite my best efforts, which included steering in the exact opposite direction, the sled piloted me head-first into a bench.

Obviously the death sled was the most fun.

I recall there being far more snow during the blizzard of 93. They actually extended our school days by, what, two hours to compensate for all the time we missed due to snow. Of course I was younger in 93 than I was in 96 (stunning, I know), so maybe it just seemed like there was more snow relative to my height.

No wait, that can’t be it. I’m pretty much the same height now as I was then.

...Behold, a pale horse. The man that sat upon it was Wieters, and hell followed with him.

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by Brett Jones on Oct 22, 2009 11:58 AM EDT up reply actions

I remember that what happened in 93 was like EVERYTHING froze, just complete ice, no snow just ice every freaking where for a week. I wasn’t too old at that point so I might be remembering it wrong, but sliding down hills and stuff without a sled etc I remember being 93.

by Patrick Tenney on Oct 22, 2009 12:08 PM EDT up reply actions

My memories of 93 are eating Lipton’s Noodle Soup and Grilled Cheese, watching Let’s Make a Deal in syndication, and then later on having to go to school for about a thousand hours each day.

So, obviously I remember all of the exciting times of my life.

...Behold, a pale horse. The man that sat upon it was Wieters, and hell followed with him.

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by Brett Jones on Oct 22, 2009 12:13 PM EDT up reply actions

You know

I actually don’t have any recollection of the Blizzard of 93… I know it happened, but damned if I remember it!

I can’t believe you brought up Splashdown… lol

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by funnytiger on Oct 22, 2009 12:08 PM EDT up reply actions

Oh, so then you’d be familiar with Splashdown. That’s where we had my birthday party.

I guess that was in 1993, the first blizzard I can remember.

Anyway, I understand why folks wouldn’t be so greatly concerned about weather issues, but that’s sort of the problem. “Oh, it won’t happen.” Then you wake up and oops, there’s a foot of snow on my driveway and a couple two and three inches of ice mixed in just to make sure everyone over the age of 15 is completely miserable. Then again, blizzards aren’t the norm here. If they were, “here” would be Canada and my money would be (more) worthless.

...Behold, a pale horse. The man that sat upon it was Wieters, and hell followed with him.

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by Brett Jones on Oct 22, 2009 12:02 PM EDT up reply actions

you know what??

I think I’m remembering the Blizzard of 93 and not the one of 96… Drugs are a terrible thing…

http://www.weatherbook.com/1996.htm

http://articles.latimes.com/1993-03-14/news/mn-899_1_power-outages

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by funnytiger on Oct 22, 2009 12:13 PM EDT up reply actions

Well, either way, we got crushed both times. Were they both in January? I don’t remember. I suppose I could click on those links and find out before I post this but…too late!

...Behold, a pale horse. The man that sat upon it was Wieters, and hell followed with him.

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by Brett Jones on Oct 22, 2009 12:29 PM EDT up reply actions

I remember the blizzard of 96, I was in kindergarden and didn’t really understand the concept of “snow day”. I thought school had just ended early.

by Zack Gobie on Oct 22, 2009 6:34 PM EDT up reply actions

Just have it in Richmond…

In the 25 years I lived there I remember snow maybe 7 times.

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by iiowyn on Oct 22, 2009 10:18 AM EDT up reply actions

That’s more reasonable for the weather concerns, such that there really are any, but I can say that I wouldn’t go to this show if it were in Richmond.

Let me also point out that I love Nate Diaz, so I’m thrilled to see him fight live, but I’m not going from Baltimore to Richmond on a Monday afternoon to do so.

...Behold, a pale horse. The man that sat upon it was Wieters, and hell followed with him.

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by Brett Jones on Oct 22, 2009 11:48 AM EDT up reply actions

Word

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by funnytiger on Oct 22, 2009 12:14 PM EDT up reply actions

I am just bitter that growing up it would be 10 inches of snow in Fairfax, 8 inches in Norfolk, blizzard conditions in freaking Florida, and maybe a flurry or two that melted before it hit the ground in Richmond. I swear someone set up an anti snow barrier there.

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by iiowyn on Oct 22, 2009 1:37 PM EDT up reply actions

You have a badass music scene there at least…?

by Patrick Tenney on Oct 22, 2009 1:50 PM EDT up reply actions

If I can get tickets for a reasonable price that won’t kill me, or somehow get tickets for free, then I will most definitely be there filling at least 1 seat with probably 6-10 other people as well.

If this is a market test, I hope for the love of god people pour out to this thing in droves, my only issue will be that I don’t want to pay out of my ass for attending haha.

by Patrick Tenney on Oct 22, 2009 8:25 AM EDT reply actions

GMU students....

Luke, I think this may be the first event were we see real support from George Mason University students… who show up because… well because that’s where they live and they watch TUF on Spike… I just hope they can hold the boos when stuff happens that they don’t understand….

I’ve been to the UWC and it always seemed that no one from the school ever showed in numbers… I do realize that GMU is mostly a commuter school… but I’d imagine at least a few thousand live on campus know…. I’d have to check to be sure….

But I do think the Monday night thing is going to make it hard for people to travel… and it’s on Spike TV if you have cable and how doesn’t… The UFN is also just after the biggest holiday of the year in a depressed economy….

by DeepStrike on Oct 22, 2009 10:14 AM EDT reply actions