UFC 104 Preview: Former K-1 Fighters Antoni Hardonk and Patrick Barry Square Off
In heavyweight action, former K-1 kickboxers Antoni Hardonk (8-5, 4-3 UFC) and Patrick Barry (4-1, 1-1 UFC) will square off in a battle between two former training partners looking to prove who has made the better transition to mixed martial arts. Both men are looking to gain ground in the division following their defeats, but Barry is easily the fighter with more to prove in this match-up.
Hardonk was finished off by Cheick Kongo via TKO at UFC 97 in his last stint in the Octagon following a three-fight win streak that included wins over Mike Wessel, Eddie Sanchez, and Colin Robinson. Barry enters the contest with a recent loss to Tim Hague while defeating Dan Evensen via leg kicks in his debut.
Stylistically, both men should match up well in the striking department with Hardonk likely having an edge in terms of technical prowess. Barry visibily looks beefier in terms of muscle, but Hardonk is well known for his heavy K-1 style leg kicking as well. The only major problem I forsee is Hardonk's inability to defend incoming strikes during counters, but Barry hasn't shown straight knockout power in his hands in the UFC yet.
Most fans would believe this will simply fall under the "Rock 'Em, Sock 'Em robots" style of a fight for the casual fans, but Hardonk possesses the ultimate x-factor in this match-up. He has shown a much improved Brazilian jiu-jitsu game as evident by his blue belt in Rickson Gracie jiu-jitsu. Most would say that the belt doesn't mean much as he hasn't implemented it offensively in the Octagon, but he has made huge strides in his defensive capabilities. I wouldn't be completely blown away if Hardonk somehow pulled a submission off considering Barry has next to no experience on the floor, and his bout with Tim Hague was evidence of that.
Barry obviously has some issues with resorting to terrible game plans. In his battle with Tim Hague, he came out with the plan to showcase an improved ground game by trying to take Hague to the floor. In the research I looked at on Tim Hague, some of his past fights have been very close because his opponents had used leg kicks to set up their punching. Hague luckily escaped with victories in those bouts, but he was heavily damaged in a couple of bouts by leg kicks. I felt Barry's power would only make it an even easier decision to leg kick Hague to victory. I was wrong. If Barry comes out with an idea of trying to ground Hardonk, he'll likely find it difficult to do so considering Hardonk's improvements.
In the end, I think both fighters will square off toe-to-toe K-1 style to prove their mettle, and Hardonk will probably out kick his former K-1 counterpart. Look for this to be an entertaining kickboxing match on the feet that should feed the appetites of casual fans tuning in on SpikeTV.

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This one should have a "Who gives a shit" option.
Neither of these guys is going anywhere in the heavyweight division. If they’re paired up to give one of them a loss and get them out of the organization, I’m in favor of the match. If not, I don’t know what Joe is thinking.
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by The Kittitas Kid on Oct 21, 2009 10:07 AM EDT reply actions
I disagree, Barry is pretty fresh and with some work he could do some relevant fights.
And about his gameplan, I’ve seen his interviews and he said he didn’t follow the gameplan, he was supposed to play safe and he rushed in when he smelled blood then got caught.
UFC 104=> ben rothwell will UD the shit outta Velasquez.
I’m a fan of Hardonk for the simple fact he’s come in time and time again, showed some improvement, and taken some considerable damage and came through in the end.
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by Leland Roling on Oct 21, 2009 10:20 AM EDT up reply actions
Ugh.
Both of these guys reflect poorly on UFC and MMA in general. There is always talk of how mediocre MMA fighters are at one given discipline but can excel at MMA, and right here we have two pretty mediocre kickboxers who are considered great strikers in the UFC and prospects.
Neither one could hang in K-1, and as we’ve seen from Barry lately, he is a crybaby because Ernesto Hoost told him how it was and that he’d never be an elite kickboxer.
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MMA is like the decathalon
And if these guys can round out their skill sets they could be formidable. But the fact that Barry is on the edge of washing out of the UFC and that Hardonk is an entry level gatekeeper shows that it takes a lot more than so-so K1 level kickboxing to excel in the UFC.
I’m personally glad they’re in the mix. They both appear to be too one dimensional to really excel, but they help weed out the really unqualified (see anyone who lost to Hardonk) and present a skill that should challenge young prospects coming from non-striking disciplines.
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I absolutely agree..
MMA requires a more unique skillset, but neither of these guys have those skillsets. Instead we’ll hear Joe Rogan talk about mystical “K1-level striking” while both guys throw lousy shots and end up looking inept on the ground.
I much prefer guys like Manhoef that are at least very good at striking and mediocre on the ground than guys that are mediocre in both.
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That’s right… Melvin Manhoef.
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by Leland Roling on Oct 21, 2009 10:51 AM EDT up reply actions
It’s pretty apparent how poor both guys were in K-1 from just looking at their striking skills in MMA. Hardonk leaves himself wide open for counters, and Barry is pretty one-dimensional in terms of using only his kicks. Guys like Ghita can do that in K-1, but they also set it up with the knockout blows.
The only hope I have is that Hardonk’s jiu-jitsu is improving. He can transition off his back now, and that’s at least an improvement in that arena. Barry is about worthless in my opinion. That Tim Hague fight was a complete fail.
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by Leland Roling on Oct 21, 2009 10:36 AM EDT up reply actions
The Hague fight was telling
Very telling. The fact that both guys have pursued MMA where there are clearly guys with less striking skills and had a certain degree of success tells me something, too.
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Well, the Hague fight was very telling in that Barry apparently did zero research. There are a couple of Hague fights on Youtube in which he gets leg kicked to hell and nearly gets beaten by the kicks. Barry’s kicks would have been 100x more devastating, yet he didn’t really try. He tried to show everyone he had a more dynamic skill-set. There is a time and place for that, not against a guy who eats leg kicks.
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by Leland Roling on Oct 21, 2009 10:54 AM EDT up reply actions
I saw it as less about research and more about overconfidence. Barry dropped his hands during most of the fight and appeared to be showing off.
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Well, the case could be made for both. But yeah, he probably was overconfident, but if he had seen the video on him… leg kicks were easily a means to a win.
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by Leland Roling on Oct 21, 2009 2:14 PM EDT up reply actions
You have no idea what you are talking about....
I either know one of these guys or I know some one who has trained with them for years…And both are K1 level fighters…. PERIOD.
I trained at Vos Gym…(have you?) Antoni is very respected by world champion kick boxers… Remy Bonjasky said Hardonk had the hardest low kicks he ever felt…. that’s coming from a 2 x world champion… But hey you know better, I’m sure…. Antoni has been in with the best and gone to decision with them in a sport with a over 70% knock out rate…
Ernesto Hoost doesn’t back cans…. Neither does Ivan Hippolyte (know who he is)
Antoni comes from a country that has produced some of the best K1 fighters EVER and most of the world champions… Hoost 4 x, Shilt 2-3 x, Aerts 2-3 x Remy 2 x, Hippolyte K3 champion, Kraus, I could go on and on…. So there is a deep pool of the best kick boxers in the world Japan and K1 have to pull from…..
Keyboard warrior……
About the Hoost comment… I’d have to ask him, doesn’t sound like some thing Hoost would say… Could it be Barry trying to “hype”, a feud for the fight?
oh jeez
Don’t pull the keyboard warrior thing while doing just that, it comes across poorly.
Antoni is respected, sure, but that still doesn’t make him an elite level kickboxer. The fact that some consider him one in MMA is my biggest problem. There is no shame in having losses to Badr Hari and Remy Bonjasky, and that Remy respects him is cool, still doesn’t mean I’d pick Hardonk in a rematch.
I don’t disagree that Hardonk comes from a country full of the best kickboxers, but that doesn’t by proxy make him one.
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And both are K1 level fighters…. PERIOD.
They aren’t successful K-1 level fighters at all, and it’s been proven.
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by Leland Roling on Oct 21, 2009 10:52 AM EDT up reply actions
"And both are K1 level fighters…. PERIOD."
Then they should go fight K1, because they sure as shit aren’t UFC-level heavyweights.
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by The Kittitas Kid on Oct 21, 2009 11:13 AM EDT up reply actions
calling people keyboard warriors on a statement like that is just lame..
also,
I either know one of these guys or I know some one who has trained with them for years…You’re not sure?
by Anton Tabuena on Oct 21, 2009 11:54 AM EDT up reply actions
this is a great comment
right up to the point where you start name calling. please refrain from name calling.
this is a warning.
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Not always..
K-1 is notorious for hiring cans to feed to their stars. I mean, Sean O’Haire?
They do give younger stars a chance sometimes, guys like John Love, and it just doesn’t work out for them. John Love fought in K-1 and I wouldn’t call him elite.
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I had no idea Chad “Akebono” Rowan was such an elite striker.
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by The Kittitas Kid on Oct 21, 2009 11:16 AM EDT up reply actions
And the
Key board warrior applies…. I’m not the one bashing fighters….. Is he on the level of Hoost, Aerts, Shilt, Remy, no…… show me where I said that.
You just don’t like these guys… that’s obvious….. so don’t watch the fight… but don’t bash them because they weren’t world champion K1 fighters….
Where exactly is the bashing at? Calling a guy mediocre based on past performances isn’t bashing.
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by Leland Roling on Oct 21, 2009 11:12 AM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
well..
I think its cool you’ve trained as Vos gym, but I’m not sure how that qualifies you as a fan better than anybody else. I’ve taken jiu-jitsu classes at Jackson’s here in town and get off at the same exit as Keith Jardine at the same time every morning, he almost sideswiped me last week, does that mean I’m more qualified to talk about MMA than you?
I think Hardonk is a pretty decent fighter, if he put his nose to the grindstone with kickboxing he could’ve been something special, instead he chose MMA and has an alright kickboxing base with a mediocre grappling base.
My problem was that guys like this are what most MMA fans in the US see as “K1 kickboxers” and they aren’t the best representation at all. Both Hardonk and Barry have had some embarassing MMA moments, that is fact not bashing.
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Nope.
He was awake enough to roll down his window and do the hand-out-the-window “sorry man!”
I’d rather he apologize for that giant TAPOUT sticker on the back of his truck.
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name calling is not allowed
being critical of fighters’ skills or lack thereof is not fighter bashing.
calling people “key board warriors” is bullshit namecalling. and isn’t allowed here.
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Looks like fighter bashing to me....
I’ll fall in line though just the same…. enjoy… continue, the “analysis”……
Fighter bashing is different than being critical..
These are some core differences. If somebody called either guy a name or insulted their character it is different than commenting on their skill and performances.
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Ok
Thanks for that… I “obviously” took it as a personal attack… As I am a close friend of one of the fighters….. My bad.
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