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UFC launches a new poker site. The promotion will be giving out a host of prizes every month including VIP experiences.

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Keep an eye out for me (player name: bloodyelbow) at the tables. While I loves playing for real money, playing with MMA fans is always fun.

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by Brent Brookhouse on Oct 20, 2009 3:11 PM EDT reply actions  

It's on... when I get home.

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by Leland Roling on Oct 20, 2009 3:15 PM EDT up reply actions  

ditto. My brother is a pro, but I suck big time

by szucconi on Oct 20, 2009 3:18 PM EDT up reply actions  

lol, please tell me you play at poker stars?

by oasis77 on Oct 20, 2009 3:22 PM EDT up reply actions  

ever play KingBalls123?

by szucconi on Oct 20, 2009 3:23 PM EDT up reply actions  

haha...

i do occasionally. In order of playing time I’d say Full Tilt → Ultimate Bet → Poker Stars.

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by Brent Brookhouse on Oct 20, 2009 3:29 PM EDT up reply actions  

Are you people on pocketfives.com?

by szucconi on Oct 20, 2009 3:31 PM EDT up reply actions  

Handle Coastalpgm on pocketfives.com
He doesn’t share my last name, but I would print it here.

by szucconi on Oct 20, 2009 3:45 PM EDT up reply actions  

Pocket Fives is the Sherdog of poker sites.

TwoPlusTwo.com noobs.

Twitter: @Mike_Fagan_13
http://www.sackmikegoldberg.com

by Mike Fagan on Oct 20, 2009 3:47 PM EDT up reply actions  

^ that guy

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by Brent Brookhouse on Oct 20, 2009 3:47 PM EDT up reply actions  

I just use it (much like sherdog fightfinder), to track his stats

by szucconi on Oct 20, 2009 3:49 PM EDT up reply actions  

He’s got some decent scores. I always laugh at the P% rankins because half those guys are either backed and broke or will go broke with the volume they play yet they think they are 2nd coming of jesus or something. The cash players that don’t brag and are cleaning up the 25/50 are the ones I look up to..

by oasis77 on Oct 20, 2009 4:00 PM EDT up reply actions  

I have discussed this with him. The theory that playing small money with less skilled players is a faster way to build a roll. He largely agrees, but his income is not derived from poker so he dabbles in larger game (mostly live) rather then grinding it out. Which brings me to a new theory I just developed. HTLBrent Brookhouse. UB had a cheating scandal and it drives away good players that make money and are aware of the scandal. The scandal root gets snuffed out and it becomes a very legit site with no good players. a player with a moderate amount of skill cleans up.

by szucconi on Oct 20, 2009 4:08 PM EDT up reply actions  

I don’t man, I think the casual player does a lot of research and is generally very cautious before making a site deposit. I too had heard UB was doing a lot to clean up the image, etc but I still think players gravitate towards sites like stars and tilt because they view those sites as safer.

There are a ton of bad players at stars at the lower limits. I’m sure that’s the case with most sites. It gets tougher as you move up towards the $2/$4 level and above.

Live poker, $1/$2 seems to play similar to 1cent/2cent online in terms of difficulty. Soooo many bad players live.

by oasis77 on Oct 20, 2009 4:12 PM EDT up reply actions  

I take a lot of interest in what you are saying. I would like to do some work learning the ins and outs of poker not only the game but the mind set of the players at all levels to try to do some AI work to grind out a living online. University of Alberta has done work on an AI player in heads up. last I saw it was very good, but they couldn’t expand it to more players. I just wish I had time. MAS is my thing.

by szucconi on Oct 20, 2009 4:18 PM EDT up reply actions  

Live poker is generally easier because guys are looking to have a good time. I.e. people at a table in a casino usually aren’t going to be there grinding out money to pay the bills. They’re looking to have a good time on their rec trip to the casino. Right now if you have the time and money you can crush table games in casinos because everyone is all jacked up to play poker because the WSOP is on ESPN. So people start thinking “that looks easy” and just want to play the game.

Online low stakes is a harder game. 1 cent/2 cent is rough because you can’t get people off shitty hands. i.e. people at that level almost always want to see the flop and they’re hard to raise out of a hand. So you can have A-K and get beat more often at lower stakes because people won’t get off bad hands and hit miracle flops. They’ll play 8-3 and hit a flop of 8-3-2 and suddenly you’re up against a hand that had no business calling your pre-flop raise.

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by Brent Brookhouse on Oct 20, 2009 4:24 PM EDT up reply actions  

harder game meaning harder because of dumbass players

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by Brent Brookhouse on Oct 20, 2009 4:24 PM EDT up reply actions  

and also the rake. It’s got to be very tough to beat those games at all

by Phildo on Oct 20, 2009 4:38 PM EDT up reply actions  

I used to play small stakes online poker alot. When you get into games were 5-6 people see the flop and most just call down to the river, you have to play more smaller suited connectors and smaller pocketpairs to try to hit big hands. In tough games you would bleed money but the return from when you do hit is greater than the cost of seeing more hands because of how many people are in the pot. In small stakes games you can have wild swings but once you get the hang of it small stakes games are very beatable despite the frustration. Read Small Stakes Holdem:Winning big with expert play by ed miller and david sklansky, if you are interested in playing small stakes games, it made me a few thousand dollars.

by Dropkick434 on Oct 20, 2009 4:35 PM EDT up reply actions  

I have read that very recently. And I do fine playing small stakes when I do. I’m just saying, it’s a harder game than people think because it’s a DIFFERENT game.

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by Brent Brookhouse on Oct 20, 2009 4:40 PM EDT up reply actions  

People have to realize that it’s different.

“Optimum” poker strategies are designed to play against people that know what they’re doing, if you’re playing against people that don’t know (or care) what they are doing, you need to adjust.

by Phildo on Oct 20, 2009 4:43 PM EDT up reply actions  

You have to account for these things by not only treating each stake level as a different game, but learning all you can about the players and habits and there past track record. Computers are god at this.

by szucconi on Oct 20, 2009 4:43 PM EDT up reply actions  

Yeah, I bluff much less online at lower stakes than I do at higher stakes. People will generally look you up and never believe you at lower stakes. It’s quite easy to punish the fish at lower limits though becasue of this. They generally never adapt and realize you have shown down like 5 monsters in a row..

by oasis77 on Oct 20, 2009 4:48 PM EDT up reply actions  

Yeah...

I will throw out a really bad bluff and show my cards rather than muck early into my time at a lower stake table even if I have to lose money to do it. From there none of the fish will trust that you ever have anything.

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by Brent Brookhouse on Oct 20, 2009 4:50 PM EDT up reply actions  

“Online low stakes is a harder game. 1 cent/2 cent is rough because you can’t get people off shitty hands. "

If you can’t beat this game, you don’t know how to adjust.

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by Mike Fagan on Oct 20, 2009 5:30 PM EDT up reply actions  

The real +EV is in SnG’s, boys.

http://www.fourouncestofreedom.com

by Tim Burke on Oct 20, 2009 5:54 PM EDT up reply actions  

Ewwwwww.

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by Mike Fagan on Oct 20, 2009 6:07 PM EDT up reply actions  

you misspelled “variance”.

Shove Ace rag when the blinds get too high? No thanks.

by oasis77 on Oct 21, 2009 8:12 AM EDT up reply actions  

But it’s so much fun, especially when the people you’re playing against dont’ realize their supposed to be shoving ace rag and they just give your their chips, or wait for kings and cry when the ace comes.

by Phildo on Oct 21, 2009 8:50 AM EDT up reply actions  

Don’t play turbos, and you don’t have these problems.

http://www.fourouncestofreedom.com

by Tim Burke on Oct 21, 2009 2:10 PM EDT up reply actions  

I agree

I made over a grand one day just playing $100 SnG’s.

Walla walla walla I'm an idiot.

by ufc4 on Oct 22, 2009 11:25 PM EDT up reply actions  

I know how to adjust...

To clarify when I said “is a harder game” I meant than live $1/$2. Live $1/$2 it’s easier to control the game. You can still crush 1 cent/2 cent, but in my opinion it’s a much easier thing to completely control a live $1/$2 game

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by Brent Brookhouse on Oct 20, 2009 6:13 PM EDT up reply actions  

UB, really? You know about the cheating scandal there right?

I usually play low limit omaha at pstars..

by oasis77 on Oct 20, 2009 3:42 PM EDT up reply actions  

I’m awful at omaha.

The cheating scandal is really a non-issue. I don’t want to get into it but really it’s not anything to worry about.

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by Brent Brookhouse on Oct 20, 2009 3:45 PM EDT up reply actions  

Have you seen the players at UB?

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by Mike Fagan on Oct 20, 2009 3:47 PM EDT up reply actions  

^ this guy again...

there is no better ring game online than UB. These guys are dying to give you money

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by Brent Brookhouse on Oct 20, 2009 3:48 PM EDT up reply actions  

I used to play Bodog and there were some god awful cash players on that site.

by oasis77 on Oct 20, 2009 3:57 PM EDT up reply actions  

This makes sense...

there are ad spots all over the game, it rewards fans by giving prizes…it’s a smart idea honestly

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by Brent Brookhouse on Oct 20, 2009 4:24 PM EDT up reply actions  

Would be really cool if you could win viewings of old fights.

by szucconi on Oct 20, 2009 4:27 PM EDT up reply actions  

Too bad they don't have monthly Video Valut subscriptions...

those would be decent prizes. I’m about to play in a qualifier for tonight’s $500 tourney. We’ll see how that goes. They also have qualifiers for PSP tourneys and thanksgiving dinners as well as $2,500 VIP experiences.

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by Brent Brookhouse on Oct 20, 2009 4:29 PM EDT up reply actions  

A decent prize that promotes there product and costs them little to nothing. I would play in games just to win the chance to see an unaired prelim.

RIP monthly subscriptions to the video vault.

by szucconi on Oct 20, 2009 4:33 PM EDT up reply actions  

I’d rather win a XXL UFC 44 T-shirt than have anything to do with that monstrosity known as the UFC Vault.

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by Mike Fagan on Oct 20, 2009 5:32 PM EDT up reply actions  

No worries. I’ll offer the UFC my web development services. I’d love to tear that shitty ass thing apart and rebuild it.

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by Leland Roling on Oct 21, 2009 9:50 AM EDT up reply actions  

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by Brent Brookhouse on Oct 20, 2009 4:41 PM EDT up reply actions  

Who mucks pocket aces like that?

Walla walla walla I'm an idiot.

by ufc4 on Oct 21, 2009 12:45 AM EDT up reply actions  

wow

just installed it and the program is pretty awful imo… really choppy, ugly theme.. but hopefully it will improve… Im “greenseed” on there.

by greenseedbc on Oct 20, 2009 4:43 PM EDT reply actions  

It’s been running fairly smooth for me. It is ugly…but I don’t really care about anything but the cards

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by Brent Brookhouse on Oct 20, 2009 4:45 PM EDT up reply actions  

huh… ya runs a bit choppy 4 me.. on decent comp too.. ads are lame too but what do i expect right.. I like my jokerstars 10 cent tourneys better ;D but i might play the odd game just 4 fun

by greenseedbc on Oct 20, 2009 4:51 PM EDT up reply actions  

I can see using the UFC poker...

as a way to cool off if I’m having a bad run with real money sites and still want to play and get my head clear.

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by Brent Brookhouse on Oct 20, 2009 4:53 PM EDT up reply actions  

good call heh… theres always those bad runs isnt there… brent do u notice on sites other than jokerstars that the program seems to be made to get people out? example: on pokerstars when you get a pocket pair you can almost guarantee one or more other players has pockets aswell during that hand…

by greenseedbc on Oct 20, 2009 4:58 PM EDT up reply actions  

I went to sign up and it said my username and email address were taken, so I clicked around and saw that it’s with the “national league of poker” which i read about in a magazine and signed up for a few months ago.

The “royal Hold’em” was supposed to revolutionize the way poker is played.

by Phildo on Oct 20, 2009 4:48 PM EDT up reply actions  

Zen Gaming...

does NLoP, NBC’s online poker and a few others

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by Brent Brookhouse on Oct 20, 2009 4:52 PM EDT up reply actions  

yea, I managed to trick them, God bless gmail, I’ll play every once in a while to try to win some shit

by Phildo on Oct 20, 2009 4:53 PM EDT up reply actions  

whats this royal holdem?

by greenseedbc on Oct 20, 2009 4:53 PM EDT up reply actions  

no 2s,3s,4s,5s,6s,7s,8s, or 9s

by Phildo on Oct 20, 2009 4:54 PM EDT up reply actions  

No I looked at the NLOP stuff for like 10 minutes then gave up, maybe I’ll give it a whirl on the ufc site, but I just played 2 sngs (but only paid 1 buy in) and won it, so I have some points to burn.

by Phildo on Oct 20, 2009 6:12 PM EDT up reply actions  

I played

in their qualifiers to get in a tournament to win the UFC $2700 book. There were 4 players in the qualifier. I got sucked out, which is nothing new..

The site is extremely slow and kind of frustrating.

by TennesseeTopTeam on Oct 20, 2009 5:05 PM EDT reply actions  

Look out for me (same user name as here)

Just a warning – I’ve taken out 500 players in a tourney before.

'Ello G'vnor!

by IHateMMA on Oct 20, 2009 5:09 PM EDT reply actions  

God damn this is an ugly interface, they even have gladiator douche in it. I like MMA and losing imaginary money though so I’ll give this a go. Same name as here.

by omigawda on Oct 20, 2009 6:05 PM EDT reply actions  

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