Kimbo Slice: I'd Beat Roy Nelson in a Rematch
by Kid Nate on Oct 2, 2009 3:46 PM EDT
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Mike Chiappetta interviews Kimbo Slice and Steve Cofield points out the following:
Kimbo says he will beat Nelson if he gets another fight with him. The former International Fight League champ was the only guy left on Rashad Evans' team that would've beat him:
"When he picked me to fight Roy, I felt like, okay, anyone of his other guys, he knows I probably would've beaten them hands down. They probably wouldn't be able to hang with me. Hands down Kimbo would probably mop everybody else."
Not quite the humble Kimbo that everyone has come to love so much in the past couple of weeks.
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If Nelson knocked Kimbo out in 2 minutes I’d more inclined to believe that Kimbo has a chance. But Nelson showed that Kimbo’s ground game hasn’t really grown in his off-time. It’s not like Roy got lucky by being superior on the ground.
by Ahhhoki on Oct 2, 2009 3:50 PM EDT reply actions 5 recs
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A wise man told me don't argue with fools
Cause people from a distance can't tell who is who -- Jay-Z
Know what I'm saying, I think Kimbo would lose again, know what I'm saying?
If you were unfortunate enough to listen to the audio you’ll know what I’m saying. Know what I’m saying?
I know what you're saying
But do you know what Kimbo is saying? ;)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BXj-XEHKclY
"Boxing is dirty," said Casamayor. " The day I’m not ready to be a dirty fighter is the day I don’t fight anymore because it will mean that I have no heart for it anymore."
First, if I hear Humble one more time I might vomit. Second, there is nothing wrong with a little confidence in combat sports. If he said, “I would have lost to all those guys” then he should hang it up and go home. I think his phrasing on this is bad, but confidence can not be faulted until it gets rediculous, this doesn’t pass that.
First: humble humble humble
Second: indeed. His job on the show is to show the softer side of Slice. But in the real world he’s got to promote himself. And shit: outside Roy it’s not like a talent fountain in that house…
Don't believe a word I say, I don't train BJJ.
I blog at TangleBones - you should follow me on Twitter here.
Kimbo, Kimbo, Kimbo
You proved anyone with even an iota of ground game has a good chance of beating you, I’m sure Roy isn’t the only one on Rashad’s team who would be posting a W against you
Roy is a BJJ blackbelt and has competed in the ADCC, how would one deduct that “anyone with even an iota of ground game has a good chance of beating” Kimbo?
Don't argue for the sake of arguing....
by Screwface on Oct 2, 2009 3:57 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions
He has awful positioning and some of the worst hips I have ever seen. Thats why and that stuff is hard to teach and can only be aquired with time.
Roy made Jeff Monson look bad on the ground, too. So can anyone with an iota of ground game beat Monson, too?
Don't argue for the sake of arguing....
by Screwface on Oct 2, 2009 4:32 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions
jeff monson has made himself look like dog shit on many many times
"he's the best punchy face man in the buisness"
by blubber_guard on Oct 2, 2009 9:32 PM EDT up reply actions
Because that’s about all Roy has for a ground game. Lay on top of him and pray to god Kimbo doesn’t find a way to stand back up. He’s a joke…..
Roy Nelson
has beaten Frank Mir in a grappling contest. He’s probably the best pure grappler in the heavyweight division outside of Nogueira and Monson.
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true true
how about this “he’s among the top grapplers in the heavyweight division”
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I would agree to that. It is just disappointing in that he could likely be much much better if he trimmed down the weight. It is his choice and I can respect that, but he has to take the consequences along with it, and a really big one is public image.
Although I keep getting this mental image of some scifi combination of Tank Abbot and Royce Gracie…
A man should never waste an opportunity to keep his mouth shut.
None of the Gracies count. They are, for the most part, on an entirely different level of grappling.
Don't argue for the sake of arguing....
by Screwface on Oct 2, 2009 5:41 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions
Rerpes Gracie is the most brutal – look at the nasty things he does!
Ever tried. Ever failed. No matter. Try Again. Fail again. Fail better. -Samuel Beckett
by Scott C. Broussard on Oct 2, 2009 5:48 PM EDT up reply actions 3 recs
You're a bad man.
"That feeling after you win and they raise your hand... it's like you have this energy that releases from your body, and it's like you mingle with the cosmos, and you feel omnipotent"
any time i get bored, i go back and watch any of the Sakuraba Vs. Gracies in Pride. Unbelievable fights!!! My favorite is Sakuraba’s use of the standing Kimura after allowing his opponent to take his back. he would immediately pick an arm and lock in the Kimura position, then use that for either a hip toss takedown or just start cranking on the arm like he did to Renzo. it;s something that i see very few fighters use today…the Diaz Brothers use it also, especially Nate.
I don’t know, both of the times Roy lost to Monson, it was considered controversial.
I’d at best say the two of them are a toss-up.
Don't argue for the sake of arguing....
by Screwface on Oct 2, 2009 5:39 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions
Funny thing, Roy didn’t get his black belt until after TUF finished filming.
A man should never waste an opportunity to keep his mouth shut.
He was, at the time, still a better grappler than at least 85% of the HW division. Which would easily make him the best grappler of this season.
But that’s good info.
Don't argue for the sake of arguing....
by Screwface on Oct 2, 2009 5:31 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions
What's funny about it
Are you insinuating that Renzo simply gave him gave him an advancement that he didn’t deserve?
Am I going to have to flag you for trolling—and then tell you about it?
"Yeah we came up short today but I'm cool with things." -- Juan Pablo Montoya
by capital L on Oct 2, 2009 6:39 PM EDT up reply actions 2 recs
I would deduct that
simply because Kimbo’s ground game sucks, not because big country is a black belt, a white belt could have beaten Kimbo.
^ this
Kimbo didn’t even make a basic attempt to stop the mount. Or the side control. or anything… all he managed to do was move his arm around and delay getting put in the crucifix for a few seconds.
But he’s not good looking so…
"Why am I here? Why does my mind have wings? Why do blue midgets hit me with fish?!" - The Tick
A rematch would go the same way the first fight went. Some trading on the feet and as soon as Kimbo gets some good shots in, Roy takes him down and finishes it.
Wrestlers are not really known for being good of their back....
so if he has BJJ training he would know little more about the transitions. maybe sweeps? reversals? or sub. def.
Good wrestlers don't get taken down.
Don't argue for the sake of arguing....
by Screwface on Oct 2, 2009 5:43 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions
“Hands down Kimbo would probably mop everybody else.”
Hands down Kimbo would probably get dropped with a jab.
by DirtyML on Oct 2, 2009 4:03 PM EDT reply actions 5 recs
Rec'd
"Why am I here? Why does my mind have wings? Why do blue midgets hit me with fish?!" - The Tick
I just want to see somebody with the stones tio stand and bang with the big man…..where’s Houston Alexander when you need him. Have him come up to heavyweight…
after all when Kimbo Slice
fought Ray Mercer he was smart enough to take him down and choke him out.
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Double leg and Kimbo was on top then Ray ended up on top and in the choke
Go get that bread, Kimbo Slice. - Mike Fagan
by SouthAlaBamaRampage on Oct 2, 2009 4:52 PM EDT up reply actions
I just want to see somebody with the stones tio stand and bang with the big man…..where’s Houston Alexander when you need him. Have him come up to heavyweight…
There’s this new sport, it’s called ‘boxing’. Have Kimbo look into it, coach.
"Why am I here? Why does my mind have wings? Why do blue midgets hit me with fish?!" - The Tick
Kimbo is far too sloppy to be a boxer. You can’t just throw wide hook after wide hook and hope to connect…
Don't argue for the sake of arguing....
by Screwface on Oct 2, 2009 5:46 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions
And this is why they had Roy Nelson fight Kimbo, so that they could keep the hype alive that if it was anyone but Roy “Best Fighter on the Show” Nelson Kimbo could have won.
I don’t know, I doubt that. Nelson was probably the worst matchup possible for Kimbo, I’d think they would have rather had him fight someone he had a good chance of KO’ing and make it through to the next round. Also they’d probably have had him fight a couple weeks later.
Walla walla walla I'm an idiot.
by ufc4 on Oct 2, 2009 5:44 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions
I thought the same thing until I read the interview between Roy and Mitch Ciccarelli where he mentioned the producers asking him to fight Kimbo. I’m thinking they weren’t confident he could beat anyone so they decided it was best that he lose to Roy and then they still would have the potential to put him on a ppv card.
Silly Kimbo..
You obviously shoulda said everyone in the house could beat your ass and that Roy Nelson would beat you over and over again
Kimbo would get crucified, quite literally, if he fought that fat man again.
for all intents and purposes, just consider all my posts as works of satire.
I would certainly never pay 1 cent for it.
"Why am I here? Why does my mind have wings? Why do blue midgets hit me with fish?!" - The Tick
by mythbuster on Oct 2, 2009 5:13 PM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
yes Kimbo =)
Of course you’d beat Roy in a rematch… Just like you’d beat Seth in a rematch with one hand tied behind your back =) oh and you’re right, that was one of your best fights and performances pound for pound hands down. Hey buddy its snack time! Don’t forget your helmet.
"Well... You're damned if you do, and You're damned if you don't."- Bart Simpson
by poundnground on Oct 2, 2009 5:26 PM EDT via mobile reply actions
how can anyone take Kimbo seriously at this point? Any time he’s gotten anywhere near anything resembling a real mixed martial artist it results in him losing. Ive come around a little on Kevin Ferguson the man, but will continue to laugh at Kimbo Slice the fighter. at least he knows hes no mixed martial artist and admits it. I just wonder when people are going to wake up and realize that beating James Thompson(despite getting handled in the early portion of the fight and being given a racquetball sized ear to pop) , Ray Mercer(Thank you Ray for what you did to Tim Sylvia), and Tank Abbott(In my opinion the biggest loser to ever step into the octagon) does not make him unstoppable. it just means that he can knock a dude out who stands in front of him.
What us the appeal of kimbo… Why do so many fans support him… Is it the beard? The kimbo name? The weird groomed chest hair. I don’t see it. And I’m tired of the argument, gotta love him cause he’s humble… Bullshit… He’s humble cause he isn’t worth a shit in the cage. I doubt he wins a single fight in the ufc.
It’s Danas responsibility to make bj Penn/kimbo happen, after all he was saying that bj could beat kimbo back when kimbo was elitexc
by kanodogg on Oct 2, 2009 5:59 PM EDT via mobile reply actions 2 recs
I think both of them could…
Royce, meet Kimo. Kimo, Royce…
Don't argue for the sake of arguing....
by Screwface on Oct 2, 2009 7:59 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions
I take BJ in that fight
Make it happen at 205.
According to fightmetric, Penn came closer to beating Lyoto than anyone else. He may be a natural lightweight, but he does ok at higher weights.
That would explain the Beard!!!
they say that under Chuck Norris’ beard there is another fist, i guess under Kimbo’s beard hides his assholeface :)
How the tide has turned from many here....
It was not that long ago when people here liked the “humble” Kimbo. Now that he says how he would beat Roy in a rematch, it’s “KIMBO SUCKS” again.
Will anyone here MAKE UP THEIR DAMN MINDS????
from mma mania
"Why am I here? Why does my mind have wings? Why do blue midgets hit me with fish?!" - The Tick
Here is the full quote by KIMBO :
“I fought Roy with caution. I did go for the kill one time, but I knew to be careful because Roy will bait you, that’s how good he is. He can look rocked, but the minute you go in for the kill, shwoop! You know what I’m sayin? He’s a smart fighter. When I felt like I rocked him I went in for the kill and that’s when I made my mistake. That’s when I realized, ah, this motherfucker was slick. But in the midst of the fight I had to figure that out. By the second round he figured out how to get in, how to play possum and get me down to the ground. That weight was hard to move. The crucifix is not my favorite position. I been in that position with James Thompson and was stuck. Roy had me also in that same position. That’s a position I would really like to know how to get out of. I know some shit on the ground. It’s not like I get down there and I don’t know nothing. I have some skills. I’ll beat Roy next time around. You’re only gonna beat me once. If I fight anybody and they beat me that one time, that’s it. You gave me your best. You didn’t beat me at my best. Now I know how you’re comin’. You ain’t beatin’ me twice. Damn right I’d rematch Roy.”
>>> Now GIVE ME SOME BREAD, DAMMIT! :)
EXACTLY, man.
I like the man but if I were him, I wouldn’t get delusional.
by the way, what does your name mean? Just curious…
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