MFC 22: "Payoff" Weigh-in Results, Carlo Prater Misses Weight:
Jason MacDonald (185.5) vs. Travis Lutter (185.5)
Antonio McKee (156) vs. Carlo Prater (158)*
John Alessio (169.5) vs. Luigi Fioravanti (171)
Mike Nickels (206) vs. David Heath (205)
Marvin Eastman (205) vs. Ryan Jimmo (204.5)
Pete Spratt (171) vs. Nathan Gunn (170)
Jared Kilkenny (205) vs. Dwayne Lewis (204)
Paapa Inkumusha (169.5) vs. Jason Heit (170)
Joe Christopher (171) vs. Andrew Buckland (170.5)
Jesse MacDougall (168) vs. Nick Hrynchshyn (170)
* "Antonio McKee and Carlo Prater will now become a three-round, non-title affair, after Prater missed weight Thursday at the weigh-ins for MFC 22 "Payoff".
Make sure to join us at Bloodyelbow.com tonight for MFC 22 live on HDNet - at 10:00 PM EST.
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Was it OK for McKee to weigh in at 156 for a title fight?
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by JCS_FM on Oct 2, 2009 8:15 AM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Apparently.
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by Leland Roling on Oct 2, 2009 9:18 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
From the UG:
“I’m extremely disappointed in Carlo. It’s not acceptable to miss weight any time, but it’s a gigantic mistake to miss it for a title fight,” said MFC Owner/President Mark Pavelich.
Your allowed 1 pound even in a title fight.
The fight shouldnt be at 155 anyway. Carlo is a big 170. He probably killed himself just trying to get close.
by Nick Thomas on Oct 2, 2009 10:17 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Allowing a "miss" of any kind in a title fight is dumb.
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by JCS_FM on Oct 2, 2009 10:37 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
From the UG:
Under the River Cree Athletic Commission, you get a pound allowance even for title fights but you only have one chance to make weight.
by Nick Thomas on Oct 2, 2009 12:36 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
How is it dumb if the Commission allows it?
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by Leland Roling on Oct 2, 2009 1:03 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
I guess its illegal to have an opinion of your own… Crazy as it seems, I think a 155 title fight should have to be fought at 155 or under.
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by JCS_FM on Oct 2, 2009 5:40 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Looks like Luigi finally
got rid of those love-handles.
by Scott Haber on Oct 2, 2009 9:17 AM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Thanks Carlo
To be honest I am Quite happy Prater missed weight becasue atleast now its will be a 3 round decision instead of a real boring 5 rounder. All this fight is going to be is Antonio taking Prater down over and over blanketing him until they stood back up then do the same thing over and over again for 3 rounds. It will be a classic McKee decision. Especially is Prater is not in great shape and missing weight is not a good sign ? The only chance prater has in a early Sub and I just don’t see that, Don’t even think for a second Prater could KO Mckee becasue Prater is not known for having any power at all and below average hands. Other then this fight though I am looking quite foward to this card. Nice card for a friday night.
by Shocbomb on Oct 2, 2009 9:43 AM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Yep… and it’s awesome that Antonio McKee is a god damn nightmare to deal with.
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by Leland Roling on Oct 2, 2009 10:11 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Kinda like a GSP light. lol
Mike Goldberg: "You know Joe, When Matt and his brother Mark Hughes were growing up, they would pound each other behind the barn."
by xFenixKnightx on Oct 2, 2009 1:35 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Totally
His fights aren’t the most exciting, but he completely dominates his opponents, and generally receives little to know damage in return. That’s great in my book.
"Yeah we came up short today but I'm cool with things." -- Juan Pablo Montoya
by capital L on Oct 2, 2009 6:36 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
From Justin Trapp of Fighter Portraits:
i spoke with his manager and he said that Carlo thought he would be just fine a few hours before the weigh ins
by Anton Tabuena on Oct 2, 2009 10:34 AM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Anybody else watching this and ready to make snarky comments?
Guy Mezger comes out strongly in favor of 12-6 elbows—good for him.
"Yeah we came up short today but I'm cool with things." -- Juan Pablo Montoya
by capital L on Oct 2, 2009 10:07 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Pete Spratt--
Doing work. Giving up position.
It’s a living.
To be fair, he is as tenacious as ever, and seems to show a certain degree of improvement in the grappling department. Not enough so far though.
"Yeah we came up short today but I'm cool with things." -- Juan Pablo Montoya
by capital L on Oct 2, 2009 10:20 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Yet Spratt just can’t quite fully capitalize.
"Yeah we came up short today but I'm cool with things." -- Juan Pablo Montoya
by capital L on Oct 2, 2009 10:24 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Spratt has utilized all his freebie rope escapes
DAMN
"Yeah we came up short today but I'm cool with things." -- Juan Pablo Montoya
by capital L on Oct 2, 2009 10:25 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
any BE staff reading? get this to the top… good MFC card here!
by GregS123 on Oct 2, 2009 10:26 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
The big kibosh indeed
That was a textbook uppercut KO. Anybody who stumbles upon this comment later, keep an eye out for that KO because it will be on HDNet and the internet for sure.
"Yeah we came up short today but I'm cool with things." -- Juan Pablo Montoya
by capital L on Oct 2, 2009 10:27 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Yeah I was worried there
he looked dead…
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by achengy on Oct 2, 2009 10:30 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
it was a marketing product placement. zombieland opens in theaters tonight.
by GregS123 on Oct 2, 2009 10:31 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Maybe this is the night of the journymen
Perhaps the Beastman will land a bomb too.
"Yeah we came up short today but I'm cool with things." -- Juan Pablo Montoya
by capital L on Oct 2, 2009 10:29 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
McKee is great on the mic
As always
"Yeah we came up short today but I'm cool with things." -- Juan Pablo Montoya
by capital L on Oct 2, 2009 10:32 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
I've become a fan
He doesn’t apologize for his style and why should he? Wish he was in the UFC.
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by achengy on Oct 2, 2009 10:33 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
That's how I feel
I don’t agree with everything he says, because honestly sometimes what he is saying is way over the top—but I appreciate his openness. He conducts interviews like he fights—straight ahead, to the point, unstoppable (occasionally predicable).
"Yeah we came up short today but I'm cool with things." -- Juan Pablo Montoya
by capital L on Oct 2, 2009 10:38 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
edmonton alberta canada
whenever they do these fights up here, i can’t help but think…. goddamn edmonton looks like it’s in the middle of frickin nowhere.
by GregS123 on Oct 2, 2009 10:38 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
It is basically
but there’s oil and good paying jobs. People will go to the middle of nowhere for a good quality of life :P.
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by achengy on Oct 2, 2009 10:41 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
i just try and put myself in mezger and michael schiavello’s shoes. a couple days ago they were in japan…. now fly to northern canada. rough.
by GregS123 on Oct 2, 2009 10:43 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Their standup styles don’t mesh neatly—they are both stuck figuring out the range.
"Yeah we came up short today but I'm cool with things." -- Juan Pablo Montoya
by capital L on Oct 2, 2009 10:40 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Good inside action from Jimmo. Eastman caught in a pummeling loop.
"Yeah we came up short today but I'm cool with things." -- Juan Pablo Montoya
by capital L on Oct 2, 2009 10:41 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Mezger agrees--I think
Did he say “pumbling?” He said it so deliberatively too.
"Yeah we came up short today but I'm cool with things." -- Juan Pablo Montoya
by capital L on Oct 2, 2009 10:46 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Ref sucks
shut the hell up please.
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by achengy on Oct 2, 2009 10:43 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
His tone is grating
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by capital L on Oct 2, 2009 10:54 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Jimmo and Eastman have more or less counteracted each other
"Yeah we came up short today but I'm cool with things." -- Juan Pablo Montoya
by capital L on Oct 2, 2009 10:52 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
some cool takedowns, otherwise not that great.
by GregS123 on Oct 2, 2009 10:54 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
"Fighter are you ready? Fighter are you ready? MIX IT UP"
Gotta work on that one, ref.
"Yeah we came up short today but I'm cool with things." -- Juan Pablo Montoya
by capital L on Oct 2, 2009 11:11 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Mezger is a fun announcer
“He’s taking most of those shots on the top of his head—not doing his brain any good, but they aren’t knock out shots”
"Yeah we came up short today but I'm cool with things." -- Juan Pablo Montoya
by capital L on Oct 2, 2009 11:14 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Great elbows from Nickels.
"Yeah we came up short today but I'm cool with things." -- Juan Pablo Montoya
by capital L on Oct 2, 2009 11:17 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Ref tells Heath to pick his hand off the mat
“It’s not supporting your weight buddy”
I don’t know if they are allowed to do that, but I think that was a spot-on bit of reffing, as he was right.
"Yeah we came up short today but I'm cool with things." -- Juan Pablo Montoya
by capital L on Oct 2, 2009 11:18 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
yeah i dunno what the official rules are on that
by GregS123 on Oct 2, 2009 11:19 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
good call from the ref on calling BS on the hand on the mat…
by GregS123 on Oct 2, 2009 11:18 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Absolutely!
"Yeah we came up short today but I'm cool with things." -- Juan Pablo Montoya
by capital L on Oct 2, 2009 11:18 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Solid round of action that
"Yeah we came up short today but I'm cool with things." -- Juan Pablo Montoya
by capital L on Oct 2, 2009 11:22 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
“the crowd are off their feet, literally”
says mezger… as the camera pans across the audience all sitting down calmy giving a golf clap
by GregS123 on Oct 2, 2009 11:23 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Another incorrect use of the word literally
heh. You beat me to it.
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by achengy on Oct 2, 2009 11:23 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Has anyone said
he literally has X’s nuts in his mouth?
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by achengy on Oct 2, 2009 11:26 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Oof. That's a point.
Heath will have to initiate now.
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by capital L on Oct 2, 2009 11:25 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
taken more shots than a rapper’s entourage… lol wtf… i think he prepares like 10 of these in advance for each show
by GregS123 on Oct 2, 2009 11:26 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
ok wow
that is both awesome to watch, and also embarrassing for nickels.
by GregS123 on Oct 2, 2009 11:27 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Not too shabby.
I would have liked to see Heath adjust his game-plan at some point, but he was committed to slipping punches and countering, and it wasn’t doing completely bad for him for most of the fight.
"Yeah we came up short today but I'm cool with things." -- Juan Pablo Montoya
by capital L on Oct 2, 2009 11:29 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
he definitely earned his pay tonight though. damn.
by GregS123 on Oct 2, 2009 11:30 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
If you can't knock em out.. sub em
at least he realized he wasn’t gonna KO him and beat him pretty quickly on the ground.
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by achengy on Oct 2, 2009 11:30 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Wait did I hear that right?
Did Nickels say his wife will say that he hits just as hard as Heath? Nickels beats his wife? (Not sure but I’m pretty sure that’s what I heard).
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by achengy on Oct 2, 2009 11:33 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
I thought he was saying that he had reassured his wife that he hits just as hard as Heath? I wasn’t really paying attention though.
"Yeah we came up short today but I'm cool with things." -- Juan Pablo Montoya
by capital L on Oct 2, 2009 11:34 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
it was something along the lines of they both punch heath’s wife in order to let her determine that they both hit equally hard.
makes sense i guess.
by GregS123 on Oct 2, 2009 11:34 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
pretty cool ink on luigi’s right shoulder there
by GregS123 on Oct 2, 2009 11:37 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Nice walkout music (for both parties).
by goodbones on Oct 2, 2009 11:38 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
I concur
"Yeah we came up short today but I'm cool with things." -- Juan Pablo Montoya
by capital L on Oct 2, 2009 11:40 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Feeling-out round
10-10 round in my estimation.
"Yeah we came up short today but I'm cool with things." -- Juan Pablo Montoya
by capital L on Oct 2, 2009 11:47 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Guy Mezer unaware that 10pt must allows for even rounds
First major commentating meltdown of the night. No correction as of yet.
"Yeah we came up short today but I'm cool with things." -- Juan Pablo Montoya
by capital L on Oct 2, 2009 11:49 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
I could grant that a 10-10 too
This fight is anybody’s to win.
"Yeah we came up short today but I'm cool with things." -- Juan Pablo Montoya
by capital L on Oct 2, 2009 11:54 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
booyah
what a shot
"Yeah we came up short today but I'm cool with things." -- Juan Pablo Montoya
by capital L on Oct 2, 2009 11:55 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
And here I was honestly thinking that fight was developing into a rare North American draw.
"Yeah we came up short today but I'm cool with things." -- Juan Pablo Montoya
by capital L on Oct 2, 2009 11:57 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
I completely zoned out and have no idea
"Yeah we came up short today but I'm cool with things." -- Juan Pablo Montoya
by capital L on Oct 3, 2009 12:07 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
i hear mkee’s song all the time, but don’t know what it is either…
by GregS123 on Oct 3, 2009 12:11 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
I think it was Praters (whoever came out first).
by goodbones on Oct 3, 2009 12:12 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Guy Mezger on McKee
“I’ll tell you, if he was as exiting in his fights as he is in his interviews—people would be beating down the doors for him.” (roughly)
"Yeah we came up short today but I'm cool with things." -- Juan Pablo Montoya
by capital L on Oct 3, 2009 12:10 AM EDT reply actions 0 recs
36 seconds until the first takedown
Little surprise there
"Yeah we came up short today but I'm cool with things." -- Juan Pablo Montoya
by capital L on Oct 3, 2009 12:12 AM EDT reply actions 0 recs
People might say this is boring--and they might even be right
But this is entirely effective. Prater is completely stymied and accumulating damage.
"Yeah we came up short today but I'm cool with things." -- Juan Pablo Montoya
by capital L on Oct 3, 2009 12:14 AM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Can't fault Mckee
he’s doing effective damage inside the guard.
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by achengy on Oct 3, 2009 12:14 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
To be fair
I wouldn’t fault him for taking a few risks here or there either, but he is generally so entirely effective at what he does as to make criticism difficult.
"Yeah we came up short today but I'm cool with things." -- Juan Pablo Montoya
by capital L on Oct 3, 2009 12:17 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Doctor give Prater a dire warning
“Better win this fight soon, because once that cut swells up it’s over”
"Yeah we came up short today but I'm cool with things." -- Juan Pablo Montoya
by capital L on Oct 3, 2009 12:20 AM EDT reply actions 0 recs
"BOOM--Knee up the clacker!"
"Yeah we came up short today but I'm cool with things." -- Juan Pablo Montoya
by capital L on Oct 3, 2009 12:21 AM EDT reply actions 0 recs
I wonder if the failed weight cut took a lot out of Prater?
"Yeah we came up short today but I'm cool with things." -- Juan Pablo Montoya
by capital L on Oct 3, 2009 12:22 AM EDT reply actions 0 recs
they should weigh him now… maybe he’d make it
by GregS123 on Oct 3, 2009 12:25 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
I wonder if Mckee could hang with top 10’s.
by goodbones on Oct 3, 2009 12:29 AM EDT reply actions 0 recs
So do I. We may never know, unfortunately.
I’d wager that he could outwrestle and decision some of the better LWs in the UFC and abroad, but he simply hasn’t fought the kind of opposition that would allow one to state that without reservation. Everything he’s done so far indicates that he’s a very talented guy, and I sincerely hope he fights some of the better competition out there before he hangs it up.
"Yeah we came up short today but I'm cool with things." -- Juan Pablo Montoya
by capital L on Oct 3, 2009 12:36 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
hmmm top 10 i dunno. look at those names and 1 by 1 each off them are pretty brutal matchups.
but top 20 i think so.
by GregS123 on Oct 3, 2009 12:43 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
“some of these movies are so bad i wouldn’t want to be in them”
haha mezger doesn’t hold back… he says what he wants.
by GregS123 on Oct 3, 2009 12:38 AM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Why was this not on the front page at the top? lame!
SHOGUN WILL SLAY THE DRAGON!!!
SHOGUN TO BE THE NEW LHW CHAMP!!!
Mike Goldberg: "You know Joe, When Matt and his brother Mark Hughes were growing up, they would pound each other behind the barn."
by xFenixKnightx on Oct 3, 2009 12:42 AM EDT reply actions 0 recs
agreed, mfc is stepping it up a little bit more each show
by GregS123 on Oct 3, 2009 12:44 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Yeah better then the Challengers card
ugh that was ugly heh. These fights are competitive/reasonably skilled due to being filled with vets.
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by achengy on Oct 3, 2009 12:48 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Yeah great card sans Mckee. Good for MFC.
SHOGUN WILL SLAY THE DRAGON!!!
SHOGUN TO BE THE NEW LHW CHAMP!!!
Mike Goldberg: "You know Joe, When Matt and his brother Mark Hughes were growing up, they would pound each other behind the barn."
by xFenixKnightx on Oct 3, 2009 12:54 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
McKee wasn't exactly the problem with that fight
Prater did more or less nothing and got dominated for his effort.
"Yeah we came up short today but I'm cool with things." -- Juan Pablo Montoya
by capital L on Oct 3, 2009 12:55 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
mezger: “he can break the jaw, he’s that strong”
seriously? ouch that would suck
by GregS123 on Oct 3, 2009 12:47 AM EDT reply actions 0 recs
incredible balance and positioning though
by GregS123 on Oct 3, 2009 12:52 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
MacDonald is pretty good at not quite getting rear-naked-choked. He has displayed this ability before as well, against Maia for example.
"Yeah we came up short today but I'm cool with things." -- Juan Pablo Montoya
by capital L on Oct 3, 2009 12:53 AM EDT reply actions 0 recs
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