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Will CBS Make Fedor Emelianenko a Star in America?

MMA Weekly talks to CBS Senior Executive Vice President Kelly Kahl :

The network ran several 10-second spots for the event during the past two weekends of NFL coverage, the first salvo in what Kahl said was the start of a comprehensive campaign. He said the network was assembling footage for new promotional spots and said the volume - and scope - of advertising would be increasing shortly, expanding to cable, radio, and the web.

The NFL ads, he said, were "pretty valuable."

"We do this for most of our shows," he said. "You tease a little, and add information and length and frequency as you get closer to the event."

Kahl said future spots would delve deeper into Emelianenko's legend, and others featuring Rogers and co-headliners Jason "Mayhem" Miller and Jake Shields would air as well.

MMAWeekly.com sources said an in-depth preview show similar to Showtime's "Fight Camp 360" was also in the works for the Nov. 7 event.

MMA Payout has more on M-1's online efforts in support of the CBS show:

In addition to the commercial below, M-1 has been teaming up with social networking website namedrop.com to purchase ad space on various websites including Sherdog.com to advertise a special contest.

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I’d never heard of namedrop before, but it appears to be a social networking site dedicated to following celebrities. It seems to encourage people to sign up for $2.99/month in order to gain access to the latest news, personal photos, and other information related to certain “important” people the globe over.

How associating with namedrop.com is going to help Fedor remains to be seen. The website itself ranks in the high 700k range on Alexa.com.

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Short Answer: No

Long Answer: Nooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo

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by themachiavellian on Oct 18, 2009 3:31 PM EDT reply actions   1 recs

I checked out namedrop and it has to be the dumbest concept ever. Wow you can “follow” celebrities for only 2.99 a month? A.
Twitter is free B. Only people who are already hardcore fans of fedor would pay for something like that (and hopefully they still won’t) making it completely redundant in terms of exposing fedor to new audiences

by Disco1Stu on Oct 18, 2009 3:37 PM EDT via mobile reply actions   0 recs

Well said

Why the hell do I want to pay 2.99 a month to “follow” somebody. Any news regarding Fedor is gonna be posted here or another mma website within what 30 minutes of it being revealed on “namedrop” is it?

by bigdmmafan on Oct 18, 2009 3:53 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

And check their homepage…all status updates are 1 week old or more. The one relating to Fedor is from 10 days ago and is talking about him getting married which happened 2 weeks ago! And that’s all you have to go on since they don’t offer a trial…not exactly compelling

by Disco1Stu on Oct 18, 2009 5:03 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Brilliant ideas like signing up for namedrop are the benefits you get for co-promoting with M-1.

by Dropkick434 on Oct 18, 2009 4:56 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

If M-1 teamed up with the obscure site thinking it would make money it’s a pretty dumb move. But if they are piggybacking on their new connection with namedrop.com just to stretch their dollar and get ads out there (you notice all the links mention November 7th) not a bad move. Not a game changer by any means but it doesn’t hurt either (unless you’re one of the idiots who signed up with their service).

by nottheface on Oct 18, 2009 5:28 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

With all the FREE social networking avenues (Twitter, Facebook, Myspace, et cetera ad nauseum), the PR crew that decided to start with a pay site that isnt even on a list of the top 20 most popular networking sites from any given list offered on the Internet should be publicly ridiculed and then chased out of Strikeforce with a pack of rabid wolves snarling at their heels

by chucharro on Oct 18, 2009 6:18 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

The only way it even makes sense is if there is a conflict of interest where someone on the PR team wanted to throw some business to their buddy at namedrop.

by Jahbulon on Oct 18, 2009 6:41 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Just the fact that they’re trying to profit during the hype-building phase reeks of incompetence…that’s like trying to charge people for watching your commercial

by Disco1Stu on Oct 18, 2009 7:03 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Nope

I’d like strikeforce to do well, but i just caught one of their Fedor ads during this ravens game and it was just some audio hyperbole about the best fighter on earth while showing some fat bald guy jiggling while shadow boxing.

by nastyem on Oct 18, 2009 3:41 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

Weird while i was reading this it just popped up during the browns-steelers game….still weak saucce

by Killuminati on Oct 18, 2009 3:51 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

He’s Pudgy and Russian…..Not very marketable to the average American Audience.

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by Deo Wade on Oct 18, 2009 3:52 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

It’s not that he’s Russian, but a cuddly Russian. If he were of the Ivan Drago, Russian cyborg mold, it would be easier. However, try convincing the typical American that the Ice-Cream Champion is the P4P best.

Ever tried. Ever failed. No matter. Try Again. Fail again. Fail better. -Samuel Beckett

by themachiavellian on Oct 18, 2009 4:00 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Indeed

He looks more like one of the guys that participates in Nathan’s Hot Dog Eating Contest. Of course we(the “Hardcore” fans) know that below that girdle of pudge is one of the greatest Mixed Martial Artists of all time. Tough sell for CBS and Strikeforce.

Before he learned about Ice Cream.

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by Deo Wade on Oct 18, 2009 4:11 PM EDT up reply actions   1 recs

Thats not really a young Fedor is it ?

by TLAoutlaw on Oct 18, 2009 5:33 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

it really is

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by Kid Nate on Oct 18, 2009 6:04 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

And Aleks before he got all the hideous tats.

Walla walla walla I'm an idiot.

by ufc4 on Oct 18, 2009 6:01 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions   0 recs

Compared to some Russian Prison tats I've seen.

His aren’t bad.

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by Deo Wade on Oct 18, 2009 6:10 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

National Geographic Channel Documentaries/Magazines and Photography Books

So yes, I have. Keep trolling.

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by Deo Wade on Oct 18, 2009 6:38 PM EDT up reply actions   2 recs

Dana white

Should just blow some money on a commercial with 2 pictures. 1 of Brock lesnar and 1 of fedor eating the two ice cream cones. Then have some caption about whose the “greatest” heavyweight in mma

by MikeD32 on Oct 18, 2009 7:28 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions   0 recs

 so fedor could make lhw if he had plenty of MEGA MASS 2000. :)

by bdw on Oct 19, 2009 12:33 AM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

How much footage do they own?

I know they own the Arlovski footage right? Because we saw that on Showtime’s preview but do they own the Sylvia footage as well? Lindland?

People dont just want to watch a fighter punch air or work out in a preview they want to see what he can do.

Plus they need start promoting the other stars. I havent seen 1 commercial with Rogers, Mousasi, Shields, or Mayhem.

by bigdmmafan on Oct 18, 2009 3:59 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

showtime only has limited rights to the Arlovski footage because they were the ppv distributor.

CBS cant air any affliction footage or Pride Footage.

by mmalogic on Oct 18, 2009 4:21 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

I saw a commercial today with Rogers.

Walla walla walla I'm an idiot.

by ufc4 on Oct 18, 2009 6:02 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions   0 recs

Now they are. It’s still a few weeks out and they are airing some ads now.

by Razz on Oct 18, 2009 4:39 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

Why even put all this importance on making Fedor a star? His streak is amazing, but if we’ve learned anything from the history of MMA, isn’t it that being undefeated doesn’t automatically translate into stardom? If you look at the biggest stars this sport has ever seen, both in North American and in Japan, not only do they all have losses on their records, they all have suffered really embarrassing losses: GSP tapping to strikes, Matt Hughes getting choked out by a lightweight, BJ Penn gulping down air against Hughes and getting crushed by GSP, Cro Cop getting KTFO’d by Randleman, Tito getting literally spanked by Randy, Chuck getting TKO’d by Randy, Randy getting “retired” by Chuck, Wanderlei getting destroyed by Vitor, Lesnar getting tapped by Mir, Sakuraba getting obliterated 3x by Wand, Kimbo getting KO’d by a jab from a pink haired LHW, etc.

If Robert Johnson, Bill Hicks, and Johnny Cash were magically resurrected and put on a concert, does anybody believe that they’d win a head-to-head ratings battle with Britney Spears, Dane Cook, and Toby Keith?

by Jahbulon on Oct 18, 2009 4:51 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

They don’t have any other choice. Fedor as superstar or bust.

So, bust.

by Michaelthebox on Oct 18, 2009 5:04 PM EDT up reply actions   1 recs

If they were magically resurrected then yes. I think people would want to see that.

by nottheface on Oct 18, 2009 5:14 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Zombie Idol?

A man should never waste an opportunity to keep his mouth shut.

by iiowyn on Oct 18, 2009 6:12 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Hicks alone would have everyone coming to see him, he’s become somewhat of a hero after his death.

by grein on Oct 18, 2009 8:08 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

I saw an ad with rogers in it during the ravens/vikings game. But fedor is still just swinging a hammer and training in the “siberian tundra” or something like that.

by Dropkick434 on Oct 18, 2009 4:52 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

Oh, and Rogers was billed as an undefeated knockout artist.

by Dropkick434 on Oct 18, 2009 4:53 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

I have seen Rogers in a few interviews and he has appeared fairly confident to extremely over confident in every interview I have seen. It’s almost like he has never seen Fedor’s fights before.

I know he is just doing what the Execs are whispering in his ear as far as fight promotion goes, but you would probably have to go back to Fedor’s first 2 or 3 fights to find a less qualified opponent.

The hilarious thing is that the avg fan will see them together in the weeks leading up to this and think that the scary looking big guy is going to knock the pudgy russian out cold. Heh.

by oasis77 on Oct 18, 2009 5:07 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Rogers is ranked 8th in the world , in his first 3 fights Fedor fought nobodies. His 4th was against Arona. Lets look at his recent fights – Lindland and HMC , one a middleweight and the other wasn’t even ranked .
You are assuming that Rogers is going to get Zulued (or is the term now Sylviaed ?) , which is a fair assumption , but a tad uncareful. Fedor isn’t invincible , a punch to the chin from a guy like Rogers will put anyone to sleep. I expect Fedor to win , I think he’s faster and with better skills , and can hurt Rogers both standing or on the ground , but I also thought Arlovski was going to kill Rogers and hmmm we all saw how that turned out.

by JoelMan on Oct 18, 2009 5:31 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

And what happens if the “scary looking big guy” DOES knock out the Pudgy russian out cold?

Then you and everyone else would be going “heh” and then “heh….WHHAAAT?!!!” in shock! ROFLMAO!!!

Rogers knocking Fedor out would be the greatest and most hilarious thing I would ever witness!! :)

by BNTHIS on Oct 21, 2009 2:38 AM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

If he was fighting against guys that the avg MMA fan recognized, then yes. I mean, you need someone like a Brock fighting him in a big main event for him to become a star. Fedor beating Bret Rogers means nothing to the avg fan.

In fact, Fedor beating Werdum, Overeem, Silva, etc etc means nothing as well.

I really don’t think Fedor’s camp is too concerned with Fedor becoming a big star in America or they would have signed with the UFC. It’s about maintaining his legacy at this point and stuffing their own pockets with co-promoting money, which of course in the end will do nothing for his legacy.

by oasis77 on Oct 18, 2009 4:57 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

He’s ranked number one since 2003 , isn’t that legacy respectable enough ? Honestly what else does he need to do? Besides Rogers is a top ten opponent.

by JoelMan on Oct 18, 2009 5:34 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

I’m not questioing his resume or standing in the sport. i guess I question his management’s motives in steering his career the way they do. In the end it’s about making $ for their promotion which I guess Fedor cares pretty deeply about or he would have signed with the UFC.

 I also think Dana came across like a real jack ass before negotiations with Fedor and in the end Fedor probably chose not to sign with the UFC more because he didn’t respect Dana and all of the things that he said about him over the years.

Having said that, Fedor is going to end his career having not stepped into the octagon with the “real” current crop of talent. Rogers couldn’t beat the middle tier of UFC HW’s IMO. So, his top 10 ranking means nothing IMO.

by oasis77 on Oct 18, 2009 5:53 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Why would you say Rogers isn’t top 10 ? I have seen some of his fights and frankly they were all pretty much over before they started. His “worst” fight was against Abongo Humphrey which lasted a round and a half …I wouldn’t say he looked amazing in that fight but I thought he did well . He got taken down and immediately moved back up a couple of times(shows his ground game is decent) and finished with another KO.
His performance against Arlovski speaks for itself.
From what I’ve seen Rogers deserves a top ten status , maybe against Fedor we’ll have reasons to think otherwise , but so far so good for Rogers.

by JoelMan on Oct 19, 2009 6:30 AM EDT up reply actions   0 recs


Charging forward winging punches against someone with no lateral movement and a bad chin…that fight speaks far more for Arlovski than Rogers.

A man should never waste an opportunity to keep his mouth shut.

by iiowyn on Oct 19, 2009 11:00 AM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Charging forward winging punches against someone with no lateral movement and a bad chin…

Sounds like Rogers had a good game plan and executed it perfectly.

by JRN on Oct 19, 2009 12:22 PM EDT up reply actions   1 recs

lol exactly … just because Andrei was caught doesn’t mean Rogers shouldn’t get any credit !!

by JoelMan on Oct 19, 2009 3:22 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

I hope Brett hangs his chin out there like that against Fedro, that’ll shut up everyone who’s saying Edor is just gonna try to take him down and sub him.

Walla walla walla I'm an idiot.

by ufc4 on Oct 19, 2009 11:01 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

I hope Brett hangs his chin out there like that against Fedro, that’ll shut up everyone who’s saying Edor is just gonna try to take him down and sub him.

Walla walla walla I'm an idiot.

by ufc4 on Oct 19, 2009 11:04 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Why not show footage from RINGS?

by Meshuggeth on Oct 18, 2009 5:13 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

Just Curious

Do you post any original content? Or is it all stories you’ve taken else where? Not criticizing, genuinely want to know because it doesn’t seem like you do. I’d rather just read the original stories and give credit to the original writers.

by jasonmmafan on Oct 18, 2009 5:21 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

Well he did give credit to the original writers and provided links. He is doing everyone a favor by highlighting what he thought was the pertinent information from both articles. I don’t think Nate intended to pass it off as an original article.

by nottheface on Oct 18, 2009 5:27 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Then go read the originals? Saves me time when someone summarizes like this

by Disco1Stu on Oct 18, 2009 5:28 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Kid Nate puts out some killer original content….take a look at his “Judo Chop” series.

by MMA_Messiah on Oct 18, 2009 5:33 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

He also has an 11" hang. Just something I heard.

by nottheface on Oct 18, 2009 5:38 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

lol

thanks for reading.
This is a blog. Our role is to aggregate content from all over the web and collect it in one handy place so our readers don’t have to spend hours online scouring the web to keep up with the sport.
We always link back to our sources and most of them are very happy to get the traffic.
As for my original writing, I’m fairly proud of my Judo Chop and MMA History series. Check ‘em out. Maybe you’ll learn something.
And a lot of my pieces take a few paragraphs from another writer and then add considerably more commentary. I was fairly pleased with this one from yesterday.
And thanks to everyone who said nice things.

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by Kid Nate on Oct 18, 2009 6:13 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

And, for the record, this blog probably has more original MMA content than any other on the web.

Walla walla walla I'm an idiot.

by ufc4 on Oct 18, 2009 6:15 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

thanks

we try.

Follow me on Twitter @KidNate

by Kid Nate on Oct 18, 2009 6:34 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

BE is the only one I go to.

A man should never waste an opportunity to keep his mouth shut.

by iiowyn on Oct 19, 2009 12:32 AM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

more

again, not trying to be a prick, just asking. I have a friend that is a Journalist and I know the hardest part of doing so is coming up with creative topics, doing thorough interviews and verifying facts. I know being a blogger is taking a journalist’s work and adding your own comments to it. Just didn’t know if you consider yourself a journalist or a blogger, but you and everyone else answered. – you’re a blogger.
Thanks for clarifying. And thanks for giving credit where its due. I saw once you didn’t on twitter, and it was my friends article. That’s where the question stemmed from. I know true journalists get upset by bloggers not fully giving credit.
Thanks again.
Keep Blogging.

by jasonmmafan on Oct 18, 2009 10:35 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

This + Nate’s post made my Monday morning.

"That feeling after you win and they raise your hand... it's like you have this energy that releases from your body, and it's like you mingle with the cosmos, and you feel omnipotent"

by woomikee on Oct 19, 2009 11:11 AM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Kid Nate with the Hyper-Combo-Finish

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by Deo Wade on Oct 18, 2009 11:49 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

To take nothing away from the great work you guys are doing here, this post just highlights the sad state of newspapers and journalism in America today.

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by The_Gaijin on Oct 18, 2009 11:50 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

You are not a journalist? That’s it, I’m sticking to Kevin Iole at Yahoo from now on.

by nottheface on Oct 19, 2009 2:37 AM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Key Part Of Article
Only so much of Emelianenko’s fighting life is in reach. UFC owners Zuffa, LLC own Emelianenko’s footage from the now-defunct PRIDE, the promotion that made his legend. Strikeforce Director of Communications Mike Afromowitz said Emelianenko’s footage from the shuttered Affliction would be utilized for future spots.

by MMASuPreMaCy on Oct 18, 2009 6:17 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

This makes no sense

If they could use it why aren’t they using it now?

Walla walla walla I'm an idiot.

by ufc4 on Oct 18, 2009 6:33 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Legal tangles on the ownership maybe.

A man should never waste an opportunity to keep his mouth shut.

by iiowyn on Oct 19, 2009 12:37 AM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

If this were the case then why is he saying they will for sure be using it next time?

Walla walla walla I'm an idiot.

by ufc4 on Oct 19, 2009 9:59 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

can they? maybe, if they were willing to do what it takes. will they? highly doubtfull. fedeor’s hardcore fans that think that fedor and m-1 doesn’t care wether he becomes a star in the states needs a reality check, thats what they have been trying to do for the last couple of years. i’ll just be thankfull if they pull off the nov 6th cbs card. i know there is no reason to think otherwise, but i was pretty sure fedor/barnett was going to happen. can not wait for this! i wish it was tonight so nothing “bad” could happen. ;)

by bdw on Oct 18, 2009 7:31 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

"i’ll just be thankfull if they pull off the nov 6th cbs card."

No doubt. I mean, if the card on Nov. 6th flops the card on Nov. 7th will surely tank as well. :)

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by funnytiger on Oct 18, 2009 7:46 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions   0 recs

very true

 a man don’t know fiday from saturday. duhhhhh!. ;)

by bdw on Oct 18, 2009 9:11 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

i wouldn’t mind it being a day early myself! lol

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by funnytiger on Oct 18, 2009 9:36 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

i think it’s hilarious that Fedor commands all this money, but honestly, to most average mma fans….the guy is unknown. other than having heard his name…the guy is the antithesis of having crossover appeal. he is boring, unappealing, and will never be a hit with average fans of the sport. esp. since his best days are clearly behind him, why he’s fighting hacks for Affliction and now CBS. He took on who in the past couple years? http://www.sherdog.com/fighter/Fedor-Emelianenko-1500 look at his last 7 wins….not a single one over a guy who was a legit threat. he got sylvia and andrei who got cut from the UFC, hong man choi? mark hunt was never a legit mma fighter and before that there was Zulu who is 5-6 in mma.

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by theworldsoldestsport on Oct 18, 2009 7:42 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

I could care less one way or the other

But it gets really tiresome to hear people say someone isn’t a fan of MMA because they have a different opinion. * sigh *

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by funnytiger on Oct 18, 2009 9:39 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

It isn’t when it’s in regards to a ridiculously biased, trolling comment.

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by The_Gaijin on Oct 18, 2009 10:17 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

I didn’t say he wasn’t a fan. But calling Fedor boring and unappealing casts some doubt on that idea, because it is such a thoroughly bizarre opinion. If a person doesn’t like Fedor as a fighter, then what about MMA do they like?

by JRN on Oct 18, 2009 11:09 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Putting the word fan in quotes

Is a direct implication that you think they aren’t a fan. I think it’s ridiculous that someone has to like Fedor as a fighter to be considered a fan of MMA and even more ridiculous that you would question what about MMA they do like.

Saying Fedor is “boring and unappealing” is an opinion. It is their right to have that opinion. Whether you or I agree with it or not. Just because you don’t share the opinion does not mean it is trolling.

Can we get some sort of set of guidelines that dictate when it is appropriate to use that term? Fedor fanboys love throwing that word around like it’s made of beads and this is Mardi Gras.

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by funnytiger on Oct 19, 2009 9:13 AM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

I didn’t deny that implied it, I denied that I said it, which is what you charged me with first. I admitted that I implied it in my last comment (“…casts some doubt on that idea…”)

And yes, he has a right to his opinion. It just so happens that his opinion is wrong.

I think it’s ridiculous that someone has to like Fedor as a fighter to be considered a fan of MMA and even more ridiculous that you would question what about MMA they do like.

What’s ridiculous about it? Can you think of a single good reason to consider Fedor’s in-ring performances boring and unappealing?

by JRN on Oct 19, 2009 10:56 AM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

You think his statement is wrong, but in situations like this there really is no definite wrong or right. Calling into question his “fan” status speaks more about you than him. Let him enjoy watching the fights he likes, and you can enjoy watching Fedro fight.

A man should never waste an opportunity to keep his mouth shut.

by iiowyn on Oct 19, 2009 11:05 AM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Thank you, iiowyn

But to address a few points from you JRN:

I didn’t deny that implied it, I denied that I said it, which is what you charged me with first. I admitted that I implied it in my last comment ("…casts some doubt on that idea…")

Ok. Fine. LOL

What’s ridiculous about it? Can you think of a single good reason to consider Fedor’s in-ring performances boring and unappealing?

I reread the post from the OP and this could be a case of bad grammar and sentence structure on his part. When I read it I didn’t read it as him trying to say Fedor’s in-ring performances were boring and unappealing. I can’t speak for the OP, but it is quite possible he is talking about Fedor’s persona outside the ring, in which case, he has a bit of a point. I mean, as cute as it is to see him in ugly sweaters eating ice cream (and it IS cute) he isn’t exactly living up to the typical crowd drawing larger than life persona’s Americans are used to. Again, this is me speculating and maybe he DID mean he doesn’t find his in-ring performances exciting. If that IS what he meant, SO WHAT.

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by funnytiger on Oct 19, 2009 12:26 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

When I read it I didn’t read it as him trying to say Fedor’s in-ring performances were boring and unappealing. I can’t speak for the OP, but it is quite possible he is talking about Fedor’s persona outside the ring, in which case, he has a bit of a point.

That’s fair. If that’s the case, worldsoldestsport, I apologize. I still think you’re wrong, but that’s an understandable view.

Still, at this point, I’m curious as to how the statment as I originally took it can be possibly be defensible.

If that IS what he meant, SO WHAT.

It’s a really strange opinion for an MMA fan to have, that’s what. That’s all my original comment said.

by JRN on Oct 19, 2009 12:34 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

That’s exactly what I’m confused about: what kinds of fights does he like?

Look, I realize “it’s all subjective” and blah blah blah etc. That doesn’t mean that all opinions are equally reasonable. If I say “Lyoto Machida is not technically skilled fighter,” are you really comfortable saying “well, he’s not wrong, that’s just his opinion”? Do you really, in your heart of hearts, believe that’s a reasonable view? I don’t.

by JRN on Oct 19, 2009 12:27 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

he got sylvia and andrei who got cut from the UFC

No they weren’t, Sylvia asked to be released and Arlovski left as a free agent. Get your facts straight if you are going to try and criticize.

Walla walla walla I'm an idiot.

by ufc4 on Oct 18, 2009 11:16 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

other than Nog and Crocop at the height of their powers, he’s beaten mostly entirely beatable fighters for much of his career.

Gatti. Dekkers. Pele. Aoki. Kang. Vanderlei.
http://theworldsoldestsport.blogspot.com/

by theworldsoldestsport on Oct 18, 2009 7:43 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

Yeah, I think it’s safe to say that he has only beaten beatable opponents…

by David_ on Oct 18, 2009 10:38 PM EDT up reply actions   2 recs

Tell me this

Who, other than Lesnar and Couture, who he may still fight, has been a top flight HW that Fedor hasn’t fought?

Walla walla walla I'm an idiot.

by ufc4 on Oct 18, 2009 11:19 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

My mom asked me about Fedor and Brett Rogers today ……. i would say they are doing a decent job at marketing him.

The Power of One

by MMAFanatic on Oct 18, 2009 9:19 PM EDT reply actions   2 recs

rec'd

We're just a million little gods causin' rain storms, turning every good thing to rust.

by Robert Downey Sr. on Oct 19, 2009 1:29 AM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

LMAO.

I'm like PacMan fightin you silly kids... throw ya Hatton the ring, and get knocked outlike Ricky did.
lol.

by Loot on Oct 19, 2009 8:11 AM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Set yourself up for that one

Walla walla walla I'm an idiot.

by ufc4 on Oct 19, 2009 9:59 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

I saw the commercial while watching football with some friends, some girl popped up with, “saturday night fights? Again? Wasn’t that a fail?” I tried to explain how it was something new but she couldn’t understand why it “had the same name” so I shook my head and went back to sulking about football.

I’m glad to see CBS starting to get a move on this stuff. I heard Jay Glazer on Carolla’s podcast and he said that he had Rogers in there earlier (but they publish the shows out of order) so that’s another thing they’ve got going hype wise.

by Phildo on Oct 19, 2009 12:57 AM EDT reply actions   0 recs

The commericals are nice, but they are making a big mistake in focusing only on Fedor.

If Brett manages to land that miracle punch, the whole thing goes down the drain. They should be following the UFC’s model, as opposed to the EXC model they are currently on, and promoting the match up, not the one fighter.

by Razreshat on Oct 19, 2009 9:27 AM EDT reply actions   0 recs

They will start introducing Mayhem vs Shields soon, plus the rest of the card. CBS wanted to introduce the Fedor to America first.

by MMASuPreMaCy on Oct 19, 2009 1:23 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

And then when the fight happens….

America will be introduced to The Grimm…

*Who will promptly introduce his Fist to Fedor’s Nose. * :-D

by BNTHIS on Oct 21, 2009 2:47 AM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

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