Mirko CroCop Considers Help of Psychiatrist
Personally, I hope he at least gives it a good faith effort:
"I was very, very disturbed after the loss to [Junior] dos Santos. I was in such a state that I wished to hang myself in my hotel room so I would be gone. Three losses in my last seven fights is nothing but a disaster to me. That’s a terrible score, and I’m not happy about it. I am seriously thinking about hiring a psychiatrist to help me out. I have already made some calls about it." -- Mirko "Cro Cop" Filipovic to Croatian news site Nokaut, as translated by FightersOnly.com
The moronic notion that seeking the assistance of mental health professionals is somehow an indication there is a frightening underlying problem that tarnishes one's character sadly still rules the day. The truth couldn't be more different. Just as we all seek the advice and expertise of medical doctors when our human frailty fails our efforts, so too, does it benefit us to have mental health professionals (counselors, psychologists, psychiatrists or even social workers) guide us through mental anguish, uncertainty, confusion or despair. Not all of us need their help all of the time, but neither should we reject what is a clear ability to help many of us function happily and live more productive lives.
The sad reality is that mental illness is incorrectly assumed to be some severe disorder where lunacy lies just around the corner. How wrong. Despondency after a traumatic event or confusion about one's station in life are perfectly good reasons to see a mental health professional, but neither portend the immediate onset of madness. The mind is a powerful beast and can even turn on itself if external events begin to misdirect it. Hence the beautiful people who believe themselves to be unattractive or the former Golden Glove shortstop who can't seem to throw the ball to first. Having a competent mental health professional help you - the fireman, the attorney, the grocery store clerk, the Croatian MMA fighter - uncover the root of your problems and work towards some measure of clairvoyance is a profoundly helpful service. If CroCop decides to seek it out, I wish him all the best.
And so should you. Juvenile judgments and grandfathered in taboos should be immediately rejected. They help no one and speak to no truth.
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Thank you! I have a little over one semester left until I get my Masters in Counseling Psychology and will be looking to get licensed (Licensed Prof. Counselor). The stigma towards getting counseling is so ridiculous and so prevalent in our culture. It’s great to have some advocacy.
by CliChe Guevara on Oct 17, 2009 12:36 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Same here! Just graduated and waiting to take the NCE.
by Razzel on Oct 17, 2009 2:24 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Out of nowhere I had what I guess was a minor panic attack when teaching a class. I went to a counselor and got it straightened out almost immediately. Now, when something like that comes up, if I can’t figure out a way to fix it myself in a week or two I find a counselor and get a quick tune up. For so many years I had all these childish insecurities that I wasn’t dealing with. Those insecurities tended to fester and had the potential to become something much worse. It was hard admitting that I needed someone else’s input to fix a problem, but those moments of fear gave way and I’m much happier for it. It takes some courage to get help, but it’s worth it.
I can definitely identify with the fear that can come along with getting help. Prior to my first counseling session I worried that the state bar would somehow find out, or that it would otherwise affect my career. Fortunately, those fears were unwarranted.
by cmsove on Oct 17, 2009 12:48 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Good for him....
I applaud him not being a prisoner to how he was feeling and seeking out some support.
Many more walk around resigned to how they feel…. Therapy helps!
Good for Mirko.
by DeepStrike on Oct 17, 2009 12:48 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
its not sad hes needs it
its sad he thinks he needs it, crocop always seemed like an island unto himself, he seemed to be one of the ones that was made of steel inside and out.alot of fighters probably see therapists, i think forrest may have seen one recently, and i know leben has, browning should have, but i think this is a sign crocop has no faith left in himself, and is grasping at straws to find a solution to his self doubt. i think therapy helps alot of people, but i doubt itll help crocop, other people cant give you the kind of inner strength crocop had, and needs, to be an effective fighter.
by masteroftheflyingguillotine on Oct 17, 2009 12:57 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
GSP saw a sports psychologist after the Serra fight. I’m not sure why you think it can’t be helpful for Mirko.
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by Mike Fagan on Oct 17, 2009 1:02 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
as i said, i know it helps some, but it doesnt seem like it would help crocop feel the way he needs to to get back to his old form. he was the head of the anti-terrorism force in his home country, and seemed to be the type to feel like he had no weaknesses. in my opinion the fact he feels like he needs help shows he has mountains he needs to climb himself to feel confident in his own abilities and strengths.
by masteroftheflyingguillotine on Oct 17, 2009 1:08 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
seemed to be the type to feel like he had no weaknesses
You can’t assume what someone’s mental life is like based on who they are and how they act.
by Jahbulon on Oct 17, 2009 1:14 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
What part of that leads you to think that a psychologist wouldn’t be able to help him get back to that state of mind?
by Phildo on Oct 17, 2009 1:18 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
as i said, i know it helps some, but it doesnt seem like it would help crocop feel the way he needs to to get back to his old form.
Only way to find out is if he tries.
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by pud333 on Oct 17, 2009 2:34 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
A sport psychologist doesn’t do therapy per se, unless they have a counseling or clinical degree as well. Sports Psychologists mostly work with ways of enhancing performance and getting athletes over mental blocks. Cro Cop seems like he needs more counseling than performance, but would definitely benefit from both. Suicidal ideation + mental block/decrease in performance in a cage.
by CliChe Guevara on Oct 17, 2009 1:39 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Base on his statements we should be more concerned about his heath than the immediate effect on fighting…A guy who hangs himself certainly can’t fight.
by SES 84 on Oct 17, 2009 1:50 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Great move
It’s one of the hardest things in life to admit that there is a problem with one’s self. This isn’t going to be an overnight transformation but after about 6 months there should be some kind of breakthrough in his approach towards his issues. The only thing that bothers me is him seeing a psychiatrist and not a psychologist. I believe the later would benefit him more.
by thesource on Oct 17, 2009 1:02 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
The sad reality is that mental illness is incorrectly assumed to be some severe disorder where lunacy lies just around the corner. How wrong.
Well said. There’s such a stigma attached to seeing someone about one’s mental state. The reality is, it takes a brave person who is honest with themselves enough to realize they need help, and to face it head on. I really hope CC sees someone and I wish him the best.
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by pud333 on Oct 17, 2009 1:05 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Honestly I think the reason that a lot of top fighters fight at such a high level is due to the belief that if they don’t continue winning then they are worthless. Look at the way Tanner respnded to finding out that he could no longer win at a high level.
As a mental health nurse/ practioner my only worry would be that alot of pschiatrists would respnd to CC by reaching for their perscription pad.
by jamez on Oct 17, 2009 1:13 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Crocop is going to be a force again!
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by Bandaka on Oct 17, 2009 2:07 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Based on the picture you used
I have to assume he needs the shrink to help find his balls? That pic is from right after Kongo kneed them up into his body
by HighNoon on Oct 17, 2009 2:10 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Crocop looked like a broken shell of a man before he even entered the cage against Cigano. In his glory days he was always very confident, and that’s clearly faded. A shrink should at the very least help him in his personal life, but it’s become increasingly difficult to have faith in the man as a fighter. He simply doesn’t deal well with fighters that pressure him early and I don’t think an attitude adjustment is enough to change that.
by omigawda on Oct 17, 2009 2:13 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Please, please, please do this, Mirko.
My one complaint about mental health professionals is the overwillingness to prescribe pills to patients. Yes, there are cases where a reordering of neurochemistry is necessary, but far more often, Cognitive-Behavioural Therapy (i.e. reorganizing the thought patterns in the brain & replacing destructive one with healthy ones through practice) works so much better. And I’m saying this from experience.
Whatever is blocking CC, he should get help in tackling those demons head-on. Even if he never fights again, his head is more important.
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by themachiavellian on Oct 17, 2009 2:57 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
“Even if he never fights again, his head is more important.”
There’s a really good double entendre in here.
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by Mike Fagan on Oct 17, 2009 3:07 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Sports psychology is a huge thing. If I’m not mistaken GSP uses some form of it. I will admit that the first time I heard of it I was skeptical, that’s when John Smoltz first came to the Atlanta Braves and was having problems. When I heard that he was going to do that I kind of chuckled but now we know that it’s a valuable service. And we can’t deny what it did for Smoltz’ career. Or for GSP for that matter. Martial arts has always been about training the body as well as the mind.
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by dedstrk316 on Oct 17, 2009 3:26 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
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I’m not sure a psychiatrist will make a difference at this point. He doesn’t seem as light on his feet as he once did and his punches aren’t coming with the speed and power of a few years ago. His kicks still seem great but everyone knows that now and even he seems hesitant to use them with any regularity.
In summary, i think he’s just past his prime. That really pains me to say, and i’ll always be a fan, but yeah…
by moreofmyself on Oct 17, 2009 5:36 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
maybe, maybe not. he is 35 so he might be past his prime. by he did win the owgpx in 06, so if he lost it, he lost it pretty fast, which is the way it usually hapens. there is also the matter of being destroyed by someone who you where heavily favored against hurting your psyche therefore hurting one’s performance. your probably right that he is just past his prime and can’t get it back, but as stated it can’t hurt for him to try.
by bdw on Oct 17, 2009 6:11 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
A therapist may not help his game at this point, but it’ll help prevent him from wanting to hang himself.
Ever tried. Ever failed. No matter. Try Again. Fail again. Fail better. -Samuel Beckett
by themachiavellian on Oct 18, 2009 3:28 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
well....
Hopefully seeing a sports psychiatrist can help Cro-Cop, but the fact is the primary problem he faces in the cage is the same one faced by Couture and Coleman. The heavyweight division has passed them by.
I believe Cro-Cop in his prime would have lost to Gonzaga and Dos-Santos, although maybe not to Cheick Kongo. Maybe the fights would have been better, maybe not. In the case of Dos-Santos, I have little doubt that Cro-Cop in his prime would have been more aggressive and that might have helped. Or he may just have gotten knocked out more quickly and cleanly.
Cro-Cop’s kick-boxing and takedown defense will still cause serious problems for light heavy-weights. But he can’t compete any more with guys who are faster and stronger than he is, and who have a more well-rounded game on top of all of that.
I hope he moves down to LHW.
by Lauren J Darkbloom on Oct 17, 2009 6:53 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
I hope he moves down to LHW.
Where the faster and more well-rounded fighters are?
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by Well Read Idiot on Oct 19, 2009 10:20 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
CrazyCop?
In all seriousness, I hope that the psychiatrist helps him along to a 2nd wind in his career and he kicks some heads off.
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by Ubernoober on Oct 17, 2009 9:49 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
You know, you're getting out in front of this nicely, Luke...
…but given the way people are just sort of accepting the Herschel “I’m legitimately crazy in the worst possible way” Walker fight situation, I don’t think you need to.
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by jemaleddin on Oct 19, 2009 1:34 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs

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