Dana White Talks MMA on the Simpsons
by Kid Nate on Oct 15, 2009 11:53 PM EDT
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Dana talked to Sergio Non who itemized his complaints with The Simpsons MMA episode (watch it here):
- Children imitating MMA moves on the playground.
- The crowd dashing out after Marge's fight to see two drunk guys fighting in the parking lot. "Which is the furthest thing from the truth at a mixed martial arts event," White says. "That's the Red Sox-Yankees game. That's not a UFC event."
- The promoter fighting and sucker-punching Marge. "He says you're the first woman I've hit that I didn't love - stuff like that really bothered me," White says.
"We like fighting," White said. "But to make it sound like the UFC crowd is this bloodthirsty crowd that shows up and just want to see people get their (butts) kicked - that's not true. That's the stigma that the mainstream has of us."
"The Simpsons program will show you how mainstream we're not," White says.
Hard to argue with Dana here.
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Oh Dana
They are just having a little fun at MMA’s expense. It’s not the first time The Simpsons are any other show has done this.
Besides, it’s not like anybody watches The Simpsons anymore.
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by 49er16 on Oct 15, 2009 11:39 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
agreed
I think it’s so dumb to go after a cartoon for a mischaracterization of a product such as MMA. The Simpsons makes fun of everything, and to take offense to it makes DW the joke himself…
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by orcus on Oct 15, 2009 11:47 PM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
and to take offense to it makes DW the joke himself…
100% agreed. Every time Dana opens him mouth to bitch and moan about something, it gets harder and harder to take him seriously.
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by mythbuster on Oct 15, 2009 11:55 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Did anyone actually read the article?
“White concedes that he may be taking it too seriously because he has been fighting regulatory battles for so many years and still has a ways to go. The sport still isn’t sanctioned in New York.”
If we were all in his position we might feel the same way.
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by ufc4 on Oct 16, 2009 8:38 AM EDT via mobile up reply actions 1 recs
^this
I am surprised there aren’t more people who are a little miffed with the way the Simpson’s portrayed their beloved sport. If you are going to do a “satirical” episode on a sport that is struggling to get regulated and for mainstream acceptance then at least make it FUNNY. I think the commercial breaks garnered more giggles from me then the episode itself. Methinks a lot of people just want to be contradictory when it comes to Mr. White.
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by funnytiger on Oct 16, 2009 9:17 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Have you ever seen the Simpsons before?
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by mythbuster on Oct 16, 2009 10:18 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Wow, sarcasm.
That’s new for you mythbuster.
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by funnytiger on Oct 16, 2009 11:21 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Was that a yes or a no? I’ll assume no.
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by mythbuster on Oct 16, 2009 1:24 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Oh please, people are starting to be really over defensive about MMA, and that just screams insecurity from our community.
I am surprised there aren’t more people who are a little miffed with the way the Simpson’s portrayed their beloved sport.
Are you serious? Simpsons made fun of Football (soccer), I may be an atheist, but soccer is my religion. Simpsons made fun of Brazil (and many other countries including the US), they called our money gay and if you watch the episode you’d think we all live in slums. These are far from "truths", but it’s a freaking cartoon, who cares? I understand the criticism against real people such as the boxers/promoters (who shall remain nameless) who are taking jabs at our sport, but a popular cartoon portraying our sport and the criticism of the MMA community only tells you two things:
1- MMA has become mainstream
2- The MMA community doesn’t accept this reality.
Methinks a lot of people just want to be contradictory when it comes to Mr. White.
There are many times that I’ll defend DW, and many times that I won’t. Those who are always against him just because he is DW are biased, those who always defend him just because he is DW are biased. I’m neither…
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by orcus on Oct 16, 2009 11:34 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Yeah I had no problems with the episode. I thought it was silly, but that’s all part of success. When an iconic show in pop culture like the Simpsons makes fun of you, you know you’ve made it to a certain extent. MMA still has a long way to go, but it is in the North American subconscious now. Everyone knows about it. Even those that have never watched it, have heard about it. And besides, I doubt anyone would be making policy decisions based on one episode of the Simpsons. If they are, well, then they’ve got more problems than just taking a cartoon too seriously.
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by pud333 on Oct 16, 2009 12:06 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
The only problem I had with the episode
Was that it wasn’t funny. But hey, that’s Simpsons. I don’t know why I went into it with hopes of at least cracking a smile…
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by funnytiger on Oct 16, 2009 12:10 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
I don’t think the Simpsons has been very good since at least a year or two after Maggie shot Mr. Burns. Then again, I did stop watching it years and years ago, so I don’t know how the last few seasons have been like.
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by pud333 on Oct 16, 2009 12:16 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Are you serious?
Yes.
Simpsons made fun of Football (soccer), I may be an atheist, but soccer is my religion.
So… You’re comparing MMA to soccer? Wha…?
I love how you just completely ignored this:
If you are going to do a "satirical" episode on a sport that is struggling to get regulated and for mainstream acceptance then at least make it FUNNY.
I can make lists too!
1- MMA is “mainstream”? So I can watch any sports show on TV or read any sports section in a major newspaper and they’ll cover it? Whew!
2- The MMA community doesn’t accept this reality realizes there is a long way to go before we are truly “mainstream” IF it ever really truly becomes so
I’m just curious, what is your definition of “mainstream” and how do you figure MMA is now “mainstream”?
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by funnytiger on Oct 16, 2009 12:08 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
So… You’re comparing MMA to soccer? Wha…?
No, I’m comparing how the Simpsons portrayed soccer (which I love) and how they portrayed MMA (which I love). Again, I have no problem with the way either was portrayed.
If you are going to do a “satirical” episode on a sport that is struggling to get regulated and for mainstream acceptance then at least make it FUNNY.
I’m sure the writers were trying to make a dull episode so they’d lose even more viewers than they already have. Simpsons have been struggling for a long time to be funny as they were in the 90’s, their only success in the past decade has been the movie, other than that if you’re watching the Simpsons chances are you are not laughing out loud. Most people have already moved on to South Park and Family Guy (I’m one of them). If you have a problem with the lack of jokes on the Simpsons, you could always apply and try to make it funnier :P
MMA is "mainstream"? So I can watch any sports show on TV or read any sports section in a major newspaper and they’ll cover it? Whew!
Probably not.
I’m just curious, what is your definition of "mainstream" and how do you figure MMA is now "mainstream"?
Mainstream is people know who you are. If you go outside and ask 100 people if they heard of the UFC, how many do you think will answer yes? If I go outside and ask 100 people if they heard of the UFC here in Brazil, most likely it will be a very low number. Mainstream doesn’t start on the cable channels, you are not going to hear much about something if something is not making "news". And for something to make it "news", people have to be interested in it. People are starting to be interested in this thing we call MMA, and the Simpsons episode is proof of that. Instead of being critical about it, we should embrace the fact that MMA is starting to go mainstream, and soon will hit other channels and your sport sections…
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by orcus on Oct 16, 2009 12:29 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
If you have a problem with the lack of jokes on the Simpsons, you could always apply and try to make it funnier :P
Don’t tempt me… I think my cat could possibly write funnier episodes.
MMA is starting to go mainstream, and soon will hit other channels and your sport sections…
1- MMA has become mainstream
So which is it? Is it already mainstream or is it starting to go mainstream? I agree with the latter.
Mainstream is people know who you are. If you go outside and ask 100 people if they heard of the UFC, how many do you think will answer yes?
I guess I could do that, but I don’t know if that proves how much further UFC is into becoming mainstream.
Funny story. When the UFC magazine came out I went to a bunch newstands and bookstores near my job (in DC) to try and find it. Damn near every person I asked about it gave me a blank ass stare and asked “What is UFC?” I know that isn’t proof of anything, but if I started off with those 5 people I’d have 5 straight “Say wha?”
There was one person at the Barnes & Noble who said, “That’s like wrestling right?” I think that counts as a “Yes I’ve heard of it” but a “I have no idea what it is” lol.
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by funnytiger on Oct 16, 2009 12:39 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Haha
But how old were these people? Were they in their 20’s, 30’s, 40’s? You have to take into account our demographic. I think to you (and correct me if I’m wrong) mainstream is having MMA appear being talked about in every sport and news channels. To me, mainstream is being popular among people. Your definition will not be a reality this year, nor the next few years, perhaps a full decade before it happens the way you want it to (take it in consideration that boxing is only talked about through these channels when there is a big fight coming up, which is a rarity these days). My definition is already in effect, people are talking, and that means popular, and popular means mainstream (to me at least).
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by orcus on Oct 16, 2009 12:51 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Mainstream ignores specific demographics. Fair to say 99% of people (at least in the US) know about the NFL, Baseball, Basketball, etc.
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by woomikee on Oct 16, 2009 12:54 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
To answer your question
Ages ranged. I would say 30-40’s. But what does that prove?
Even by your definition I don’t think MMA is (meaning currently) mainstream. I think it is getting closer to becoming mainstream.
And being talked about in every sports and news channel isn’t exactly my definition of mainstream. I’d like at least some. I’ll take a tiny segment on SportsCenter! Or how about when the guys on PTI talk about it it isn’t preceded by a “God, I hate talking about this sport”-like comment.
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by funnytiger on Oct 16, 2009 12:57 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
God, I hate talking about this sport
so mainstream is people have to like our sport, not just know about it? I wish everyone would love soccer too, but that ain’t gonna happen… I think you just want too much, not everyone loves boxing, and that is mainstream, is it not?
I’ll take a tiny segment on SportsCenter!
ESPN has a version online for MMA, it will go on the big screen soon enough. Not everything evolves from night to day :P
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by orcus on Oct 16, 2009 1:06 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
so mainstream is people have to like our sport, not just know about it? I wish everyone would love soccer too, but that ain’t gonna happen… I think you just want too much, not everyone loves boxing, and that is mainstream, is it not?
Wow. You missed the point of that one. Let me try again.
Using your example, I don’t think I’ve ever heard a sports personality say “God I hate soccer!” before making a report on it. There is a certain about of respect that most sports personalities give to athletes of sports, but for some reason it doesn’t seem like the same courtesy is extended to persons of MMA.
Do they have to like it? No. Hell, as far as I know none of the guys on PTI like football (NOTE: exaggeration) but they certainly don’t express their distaste for it as a sport on air.
ESPN has a version online for MMA, it will go on the big screen soon enough. Not everything evolves from night to day :P
Yes. I am well aware of that. Thanks for the update. You do realize that an online version is only reaching people who are already interested in it right? Having it on television would reach a larger audience.
And DUDE, you act like there is only 100 people in the world who know about MMA and I’m asking for it to be on television. MMA (mostly UFC) is a BOOMING business right now making big money hand over fist with it’s monthly PPVs (in a SHITTY ecomony no less). You don’t think that’s proves that its at a point now where it deserves to be on ESPN? Maybe I’m not the one with unrealistic expectations…
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by funnytiger on Oct 16, 2009 1:14 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
And DUDE, you act like there is only 100 people in the world who know about MMA and I’m asking for it to be on television. MMA (mostly UFC) is a BOOMING business right now making big money hand over fist with it’s monthly PPVs (in a SHITTY ecomony no less). You don’t think that’s proves that its at a point now where it deserves to be on ESPN? Maybe I’m not the one with unrealistic expectations…
doesn’t this prove my point that it’s mainstream?
Do they have to like it? No. Hell, as far as I know none of the guys on PTI like football (NOTE: exaggeration) but they certainly don’t express their distaste for it as a sport on air.
I didn’t know what PTI was, I thought you were talking about coworkers or something :P But if it’s a sports channel, than you are right, they should respect and not bad mouth it.
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by orcus on Oct 16, 2009 1:25 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Block quote much?
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by Robert Downey Sr. on Oct 16, 2009 3:28 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Block quote much?
yes :P
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by orcus on Oct 16, 2009 3:36 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
I mentioned to Dana that soccer fans had embraced the Simpsons soccer episode. His response: Soccer is better established. “I’d love to have soccer’s problems.”
by Beau Dure on Oct 17, 2009 3:45 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
is this a true story? lol
I’m sure you’re joking around, but I don’t have to be from the US to know that soccer is a struggling sport in the US… (it may be well established throughout the world, but no in the US as I understand).
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by orcus on Oct 17, 2009 4:41 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
read the entire article
or click onto the link provided is what i was referring to.
by bdw on Oct 16, 2009 4:22 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
The crowd dashing out after Marge’s fight to see two drunk guys fighting in the parking lot. “Which is the furthest thing from the truth at a mixed martial arts event,” White says. “That’s the Red Sox-Yankees game. That’s not a UFC event.”
Yeah, UFC fans prefer to watch fights between drunk guys in the stands, not all the way out in the parking lot.
Dana should keep in mind that the people in the audience and on the playground on the Simpsons are… y’know… Simpsons characters.
by JRN on Oct 15, 2009 11:42 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Actually I agree with Dana here. I’ve been to about six fights live and the closest I’ve ever seen to a fight in person is after B.J. got crushed by GSP. There were a few very drunk and very angry Hawaiian gentlemen looking for an excuse to cream someone. Other than that the crowds are amazingly non confrontational given the situation.
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by Day Man on Oct 16, 2009 2:14 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
It is the truth
How many times have you heard Joe Rogan get sidetracked in his commentary by the crowd cheering on drunks fighting in the stands? There is a bit of truth in every lie…
by AceHogg on Oct 16, 2009 9:09 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
I’ve been to dozens of UFC shows. There are a lot of fights in the stands. There just are…
by Ty Lannister on Oct 16, 2009 9:23 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
I would disagree as the show functioned as a satire. Sure, it played on the misconceptions of the sport, but it did for laughs, thereby undercutting them. It’s not like The Simpsons is going to convert folks to liking MMA, but I don’t think that this episode proves how non-mainstream MMA is.
by Tom Flynn on Oct 15, 2009 11:44 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
“We like fighting,” White said. “But to make it sound like the UFC crowd is this bloodthirsty crowd that shows up and just want to see people get their (butts) kicked – that’s not true.”
Ummmmm… Yeah. Yeah it is. That’s EXACTLY why we show up. Perhaps he meant that we want to see skilled fighters, not just some drunk goofs throwing haymakers in a bar fight, but still… That’s quite possibly the dumbest thing the man has ever said and that’s saying something.
by Limelight on Oct 15, 2009 11:45 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
LOL, AGREED to an extent.
I agree with this retort on White’s comment, with the exception that a lot of us watch for the people getting beat down, but I also enjoy the beauty of the sport in terms of pitting different skillsets against one another.
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by Leland Roling on Oct 16, 2009 12:00 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Which generally ends in an ass kicking for somebody…lol
But I hear what you’re saying.
by Limelight on Oct 16, 2009 12:09 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Man, I gotta see this episode. I haven’t watched an episode of the Simpsons since… 2000? And that might be a stretch. Hulu doesn’t work for us canucks, so looks like I’ll have to get it elsewhere.
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by pud333 on Oct 15, 2009 11:46 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
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by orcus on Oct 15, 2009 11:49 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Thanks.
Marge: “Call me a killjoy, but because this is not to my taste, no one else should enjoy it.”
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by pud333 on Oct 16, 2009 1:13 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
That’s a great line. Very appropriate to any censorship/banning issue.
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by Benicio on Oct 16, 2009 2:15 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Funny thing is..
the episode wasn’t even that good (Simpsons-wise)
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by mythbuster on Oct 15, 2009 11:56 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Have any Simpsons episodes been good in the last 5-8 years?
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by Benicio on Oct 16, 2009 2:06 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
There were lots like 3-4 years ago.
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by MonkeyCHops on Oct 16, 2009 2:53 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Good point.
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by mythbuster on Oct 16, 2009 10:19 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
I didn’t laugh once…but I bet the Spanish language dub version is hilarious :[)
by casey manrique on Oct 16, 2009 2:08 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
I laughed a bit at the jiu-jitsu bit where the instructor exploded Homer’s spinal discs, but other than that, no laughs.
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by Ubernoober on Oct 16, 2009 2:10 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
I thought it was decent. At least the first half. Honestly, I’ve never been able to stand episodes centered around Marge or Lisa for the most part. Morality and doing the right thing just aren’t funny.
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by pud333 on Oct 16, 2009 11:59 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
I’m surprised the Simpsons is still on television. I haven’t watched an episode in about 6 years.
by goodbones on Oct 15, 2009 11:49 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
I agree with Dana
The Simpsons is meant to me taken very very seriously. In no way is it intended as satire or comedy, and so I think Dana is completely right in … lol@Dana!! The guy just loves to hear himself rant.
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by mythbuster on Oct 15, 2009 11:54 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Have to complain about something, right?
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by 49er16 on Oct 16, 2009 12:35 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Guess so
it gets him on camera again.
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by mythbuster on Oct 16, 2009 10:20 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Hard to not agree with the assessment of the UFC casual fanbase? Really?
It’s pretty well known that WE here are in the minority. There are PLENTY of drunken fans, and you can see it on televised cards and PPVs. I’m a bit surprised by that comment.
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by Leland Roling on Oct 15, 2009 11:59 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
It’s also not just drunken fans, but ones looking for a fight. It’s not like fights don’t break out in the stands at events, and certainly like it doesn’t happen at UFC events. Rogan’s pointed this out on a couple of occasions such that the viewer at home also knows it’s happening, even if the cameras don’t point over in that direction. MMA, like any sport, is going to attract a pretty diverse set of fans; you kind of have to accept that and move on with your day.
by Tom Flynn on Oct 16, 2009 12:14 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Right
And I understand that he’s trying to bring a different crowd to the sport as well, but there is no denying that it is much of the casual fanbase at this point.
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by Leland Roling on Oct 16, 2009 9:15 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Even though he overdid it a bit, Dana White knows they were poking fun to an extent. In a perfect world there wouldn’t be any idiots out there, but he throws this out there because there are people who don’t know better.
People like Bernard Hopkins, perhaps?
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by Bryan Everson (The Royalty of Roto) on Oct 16, 2009 12:19 AM EDT reply actions 0 recs
The crowd dashing out after Marge’s fight to see two drunk guys fighting in the parking lot. “Which is the furthest thing from the truth at a mixed martial arts event,” White says. “That’s the Red Sox-Yankees game. That’s not a UFC event.”
Was it UFC 101 where the crowd was paying more attention to a girl fight in the stands rather than the fight going on at the time?
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by IHateMMA on Oct 16, 2009 12:19 AM EDT reply actions 0 recs
MMA fans looking at drunks fighting during a UFC even that has NEVER happened
Oh wait
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=N68vThrjm48
I’m kind of bothered that he took a shot a Red Sox-Yankees like those are the only drunk people who fight
by IRodC on Oct 16, 2009 12:21 AM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Man, I felt bad for that guy that got suplexed by the security guard. That could have been bad.
by Zack Gobie on Oct 16, 2009 12:25 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Would crack me up if Steinbrenner went on a pointless anti-Dana rant like Dana is doing to the Simpsons.
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by mythbuster on Oct 16, 2009 12:25 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
He’s dead? I did not know that.
Well, then it would crack me up and freak me out at the same time.
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by mythbuster on Oct 16, 2009 1:27 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
He’s a die-hard Sox fan who grew up in Boston, he’s familiar with the two groups.
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by Screwface on Oct 16, 2009 12:46 AM EDT via mobile up reply actions 1 recs
Fan’s fighting at the game has nothing to do with the sport they are watching and everything to do with alcohol and testosterone.
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by Benicio on Oct 16, 2009 2:08 AM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
somewhere the purveyors of khlav kalash are raising their fists in solidarity.
by woooburn on Oct 16, 2009 12:22 AM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Son I am disappoint
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by kanodogg on Oct 16, 2009 10:34 AM EDT via mobile up reply actions 0 recs
Am I the only one that agrees with Dana???
I mean they had his character sucker punching a soccer mom and made a joke about how he beats women. Wouldn’t that piss you off if someone made a satire about you like that?
by HighNoon on Oct 16, 2009 12:46 AM EDT reply actions 0 recs
sure, if it wasn’t on a CARTOON famous for satirizing EVERYTHING.
by woooburn on Oct 16, 2009 12:48 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
You’re not the only one who agrees with Dana. I just think the whole episode was stupid.
Funny iFod: Chuck Liddell had a cameo in this episode.
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by Screwface on Oct 16, 2009 12:50 AM EDT via mobile up reply actions 0 recs
I like Dana, and when he speaks, I usually concurred. But like many other had said, it’s a freakin’ cartoon. A cartoon that has been on for 20 years and they make fun of everything and everyone. If you’re a public figure, you can’t seriously be hurt by it. Hell, I would consider it an honor if The Simpsons make satire of me.
In this episode in particular, they made fun of both sides (MMA fans and the haters alike). Everybody needs to lighten up.
by m-e-s-s-i-a-h on Oct 16, 2009 1:21 AM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
Have a look at all the other things the Simpsons has ripped off. I cant remember a single subject in the last 6-7 years that has been done well on that show.
The worst is when they try to make fun of other countries.
But eh, its just a stupid cartoon.
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by Benicio on Oct 16, 2009 2:11 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Thats a good point. Its been a long time since a good episode
by HighNoon on Oct 16, 2009 2:15 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
meh.
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by Ubernoober on Oct 16, 2009 12:59 AM EDT reply actions 0 recs
i thought it was pretty funny.
mr. burns: “at yale i wrestled at ether-weight!”
seems kind of counter-intuitive to be all hot and bothered at a cartoon that will probably end up bolstering the amount of eyes on mma.
by dr. ransom on Oct 16, 2009 2:09 AM EDT reply actions 0 recs
I bet comic book enthusiasts are fine with being characterized as being fat losers.
This is what this show does. Deal with it.
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by MonkeyCHops on Oct 16, 2009 2:55 AM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Giving credit where credit is due — he talked to Beau Dure.
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by Sergio Non on Oct 16, 2009 3:41 AM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Yes and no
Satire in a cartoon show like The Simpsons ins’t anything to get worked up about. They’ve portrayed football (soccer to you people) in the same sarcastic manner in an episode before. Although, soccer is a lot more mainstream and MMA is still swimming against the current. On one hand it’s harmless, but on the other it might actually affect people’s perception since it’s such a relatively young sport.
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by J. B. Maddox on Oct 16, 2009 6:36 AM EDT reply actions 0 recs
FTW
Dana should be celebrating the fact that MMA has penetrated the public consciousness sufficiently that something like The Simpsons has bothered to parody it.
Seriously, sand in his panties about the freaking Simpsons? Lol.
by loydb on Oct 16, 2009 7:04 AM EDT reply actions 1 recs
I want to see a South Park MMA epidsode now. Then a Family Guy version.
for all intents and purposes, just consider all my posts as works of satire.
by Bandaka on Oct 16, 2009 8:54 AM EDT reply actions 0 recs
I love FG
But they don’t have the attention span to dedicate an entire episode to MMA. At best we’ll get non sequitur cut-scene with Peter getting tapped out by Stewie.
Hehehehehehehehehehe…
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by funnytiger on Oct 16, 2009 9:24 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Meh, I thought they equally made fun of mma and the people that want mma to go away.
Dana’s being a little over sensitive, but his points are right.
by Phildo on Oct 16, 2009 8:56 AM EDT reply actions 0 recs
I was okay with everything except the man/woman violence. That’s not cool and definitely not what the sport is about.
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by The Kittitas Kid on Oct 16, 2009 10:27 AM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Yeah but I love to joke around about beating my wife.. I think the rule is if you don’t actually do it, it’s Ok to joke about it
by kanodogg on Oct 16, 2009 10:37 AM EDT via mobile up reply actions 0 recs
So is it ok to make racist jokes if you aren’t actually racist? Ok, a Jew, a Mexican, and a black guy walk into a bar….
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by ufc4 on Oct 16, 2009 11:12 AM EDT via mobile up reply actions 0 recs
Yes it is, I love racist jokes, but there is a fine line. Stereotyping blacks can’t swim, Asians can’t drive, Jews money grubbing, mexicans lazy, Irish drunk and fighting = funny. Though if you are a mainstream comedian hard o get away with it unless you belong to the respective group
by kanodogg on Oct 16, 2009 11:17 AM EDT via mobile up reply actions 0 recs
Ralphie May does a pretty good job, lol
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=i9mytOPDeeE
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by funnytiger on Oct 16, 2009 11:23 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
That is his “thing” though.
A man should never waste an opportunity to keep his mouth shut.
by iiowyn on Oct 16, 2009 3:06 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
“Though if you are a mainstream comedian hard o get away with it unless you belong to the respective group”
Tell Lisa Lampinelli that.
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by ufc4 on Oct 16, 2009 1:38 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions 0 recs
well she gets railed out by black dudes all the time doesn’t she.. that’s almost just as good
by kanodogg on Oct 16, 2009 2:12 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
making a racist joke doesn’t make you a racist. making a racist statement does.
like Kanadogg said, there is a fine line, but more times than none I look at racist jokes as making fun of the people that actually think the way the joke was portrayed, it’s ultimately a joke on the racist community than the jokester making a racist statement. I may have written a bunch of nonsense right now, not sure if I wrote the way I thought of it, so if you didn’t understand that don’t worry :P
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by orcus on Oct 16, 2009 11:44 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
making a racist joke doesn’t make you a racist. making a racist statement does.
Eh. Fine line. It depends on who is making the joke/statement and what its intent is… I’m pretty sure there are at least some racists out there that make racists jokes. lol
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by funnytiger on Oct 16, 2009 12:12 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
sure
but the joke in itself is not racist, the person who is racist and making the joke is. A non-racist can make a racist joke, and so can a racist, but it’s not the joke itself that will make that person a racist (depending on the context).
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by orcus on Oct 16, 2009 12:30 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Dude...
You just like to argue huh? lol
You don’t think:
t depends on who is making the joke/statement and what its intent is
covered that?
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by funnytiger on Oct 16, 2009 12:41 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
making a racist joke doesn’t make you a racist. making a racist statement does.
You don’t understand what I’m saying, I’m talking about the joke in general, you are talking about the jokester. A person can be racist and make a racist joke, and person can be non-racist and make a racist joke. It’s not the joke that will make the person racist (in general).
You just like to argue huh? lol
if you want I’ll stop responding :P
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by orcus on Oct 16, 2009 12:55 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
You don’t understand what I’m saying, I’m talking about the joke in general, you are talking about the jokester. A person can be racist and make a racist joke, and person can be non-racist and make a racist joke. It’s not the joke that will make the person racist (in general).
I guess I just disagree. I think the joke itself can definitely be racist (meaning a joke that is relying on some sort of negative stereotype of a certain group of people). For me, it really depends on the intent of the joke and the person telling the joke. I have no way of telling if the person telling the joke is racist or not based simply on them telling the joke, true. But if I’m on a bus and two white guys are telling black jokes it would definitely make me very uncomfortable.
if you want I’ll stop responding :P
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by funnytiger on Oct 16, 2009 1:05 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Yes, many jokes can be racist, this is why I said there is a fine line. But in general, the joke itself shouldn’t make the person a racist, but that doesn’t mean a racist won’t make racist jokes :P
But if I’m on a bus and two white guys are telling black jokes it would definitely make me very uncomfortable.
I’m black too, and if I hear a few jokes that don’t pass the line I could even laugh with them, however, usually racists are making racists remarks and not jokes when out in public. This could have a lot to do with different cultures as well. We Brazilians don’t take things too seriously when it comes to race and sexual orientation, we make fun of everything and laugh at everything (that is a joke of course) and as a result I think we are closer as a nation than we are to each race. We are Brazilians first, nothing second. I just bring this up because I see a lot of racism in the videos from the internet and this could be why we have a different view on this matter.
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by orcus on Oct 16, 2009 1:21 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
I think the cultural difference is the issue here
And when did you say there was a fine line? I actually thinkI said that, lol.
Eh. Fine line. It depends on who is making the joke/statement and what its intent is… I’m pretty sure there are at least some racists out there that make racists jokes. lol
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by funnytiger on Oct 16, 2009 1:27 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
the first one you responded too
making a racist joke doesn’t make you a racist. making a racist statement does.
like Kanadogg said, there is a fine line, but more times than none I look at racist jokes as making fun of the people that actually think the way the joke was portrayed, it’s ultimately a joke on the racist community than the jokester making a racist statement. I may have written a bunch of nonsense right now, not sure if I wrote the way I thought of it, so if you didn’t understand that don’t worry
:P
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by orcus on Oct 16, 2009 1:41 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
dammit
Can i still take credit?
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by funnytiger on Oct 16, 2009 1:49 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
You just like to argue huh? lol
Nope. :) I’m always up for a good debate!
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by mythbuster on Oct 16, 2009 1:30 PM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
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bored today mythbuster?
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by funnytiger on Oct 16, 2009 1:48 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
I can see where Dana is coming from. He has been fighting for the sport to be accepted by the mainstream for a long time, and joke or not, some of this stuff perpetuates the false stereotypes that keep it from getting regulated in all states or on network television. Also, I am not saying they dont happen, but I have been to five UFCs and seen much less fighting than I do at a the Yankee/Redsux games. Its going to happen anywhere there are drunk meatheads that are looking for a fight.
by metaldome on Oct 16, 2009 11:34 AM EDT reply actions 0 recs
anybody who will believe the stereotypes from a cartoon are lost souls anyways, why are some of you people so worked up about this?
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by orcus on Oct 16, 2009 11:45 AM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
Rec'd
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by mythbuster on Oct 16, 2009 1:32 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Do you think Dana seriously cares about the ’false" stereotypes? The head of the company who is best known for ranting and cursing and insulting people – HE is worried about how the sport is portrayed by a cartoon?
Sorry man, physician heal thyself I sez.
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by mythbuster on Oct 16, 2009 1:32 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
You guys realize that the Simpsons has made fun of baseball, football, soccer, hockey, boxing…
Anyone that got upset with this episode for joking about MMA needs to stop taking the world so seriously.
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by Brent Brookhouse on Oct 16, 2009 1:23 PM EDT reply actions 2 recs
Wait
You mean Drederick Tatum isn’t a real boxer?? I feel lied to. >:(
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by funnytiger on Oct 16, 2009 2:58 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Also...
Mr. Burns never DID have an all star softball team. And the MLB does not have a secret spy satellite.
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by Brent Brookhouse on Oct 16, 2009 2:59 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
I might believe the first one
But I am POSITIVE (steroid joke? no? ok.) the MLB has a secret spy satellite.
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by funnytiger on Oct 16, 2009 3:02 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
After actually reading it I don’t get what the big deal is. He didn’t over react or anything like that. He said he knew it was for fun. In the article he gives his opinion on the things he liked in the episode and the things he didn’t like in the episode.
As a somewhat figure head of the sport I believe he was right on for defending what he saw wrong with it. I mean isn’t that what he should do. Whether it be uninformed media putting out those perceptions or a cartoon I believe he should be defending the sport whenever given the opportunity.
Just BE.
by mattman73 on Oct 16, 2009 2:37 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
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