Quote of the Day: "Shogun Rua Will Show the World How to Beat Lyoto Machida"
by Anton Tabuena on Oct 14, 2009 5:11 AM EDT
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Lyoto Machida, has said that come October 24th, he will have Plans A, B and C. Mauricio 'Shogun' Rua's camp calls this and raises them with Plan D, a blueprint of how everyone can beat Lyoto. Andre Dida, Shogun's coach, spoke to terra.com.br (translated by Fighters Only) about it:
"He is very confident. He’ll face a striker and he is trained for it. It won’t be only a stand-up fight but Mauricio is ready to surprise everybody. Shogun is well-trained. We worked knowing that Lyoto is an athlete who moves very much. We know how this fight will go and have A, B, C and D plans. Shogun will know all the moves from Machida"
"For the pace of fighting that Lyoto forces, always looking for the knockout, I think this fight won’t go past the third round. Shogun will knock out him in the 3rd round for sure. Shogun is going to be the unique guy to show the world how to beat Lyoto. Everyone will learn how to beat Machida so on"
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If that is a recent photo
Shogun is looking ripped!
by rainmaker6 on Oct 14, 2009 6:00 AM EDT reply actions 0 recs
So he should be in even better shape now. =)
SHOGUN WILL SLAY THE DRAGON!!!
SHOGUN TO BE THE NEW LHW CHAMP!!!
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by xFenixKnightx on Oct 14, 2009 2:06 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Shogun is the one Light Heavyweight in the world who can truly beat Machida. He has the tools and skills that will give Machida problems at times. It’s up to Shogun whether or not he can capitalize on the openings Machida gives him.
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by FlyByKnight on Oct 14, 2009 8:09 AM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Machida will capitalize on the openings Shogun gives him.
Fixed. ;)
by Anton Tabuena on Oct 14, 2009 8:16 AM EDT up reply actions 2 recs
Disagree.
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by AboveThisFire on Oct 14, 2009 8:42 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
if forrest took advantage of the openings shogun gave him then Machida certainly will.
by JaTinkles on Oct 14, 2009 11:54 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
What tools and skills to five Machida problems?
by Dav11 on Oct 14, 2009 9:03 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
For the pace of fighting that Lyoto forces, always looking for the knockout, I think this fight won’t go past the third round
Is he suggesting that Lyoto is always looking for the knockout? Or am I misreading this quote…?
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by funnytiger on Oct 14, 2009 9:11 AM EDT reply actions 0 recs
I found that funny too, maybe he’s just adding to the hype though.
SHOGUN WILL SLAY THE DRAGON!!!
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by orcus on Oct 14, 2009 12:47 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Plan A: Come out aggressive….. get owned.
Plan B: Sit back and try to catch Machida coming in…. get pointed to death
Plan C: Try to clinch with Machida and knee him…. get sumo tripped and crushed
Machida wins.
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by Leland Roling on Oct 14, 2009 9:44 AM EDT reply actions 6 recs
I think Plans A, B, and C
were from Machida’s camp. Plan D involves Shogun throwing a wild overhand right, then getting clipped by two counter punches.
by rzor on Oct 14, 2009 10:24 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Yeah, that would fall under Plan A.
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by Leland Roling on Oct 14, 2009 10:28 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
With the possibility of Plans B and C not coming to fruition.
by dv8shun on Oct 14, 2009 10:52 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
And Shogun will surprise you when he is still standing after he gets clipped…the question is what will happen when Lyoto gets clipped by punches or a kicking combination or one of his ribs gets crushed from knees…etc
by oousty on Oct 14, 2009 10:53 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
ortiz was standing most of their fight after getting clipped.
didnt bother lyoto much. He just continued embarassing the guy..
Dont know why Lyoto wound be pissed by that.
by Anton Tabuena on Oct 14, 2009 11:00 AM EDT via mobile up reply actions 0 recs
Lyoto gets clipped by punches or a kicking combination or one of his ribs gets crushed from knees…etc
Here’s the problem with your theory. Shogun’s not the fastest striker in the world, and you can’t hit what you can’t catch. So, the probability of this happening is slim to none.
People are stupid.
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by Deo Wade on Oct 14, 2009 11:11 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Plan D involves a green mist capsule and the Great Kabuki technique.
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by MyFistYourFace on Oct 14, 2009 11:34 AM EDT up reply actions 4 recs
Shhhh! You’re not supposed to reveal game plans before fights! Greg Jackson would not approve.
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by Lucas2 on Oct 14, 2009 11:43 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Plan D: Set up a takedown with a variety of careful striking and then use that brutal GnP that we used to love in Pride (minus the head stomps and such)
by HighNoon on Oct 14, 2009 2:38 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
If Shogun has the patience for this
I would love to see him play in Machida’s guard for a while, drop some bombs from top. It’s prolly his best chance.
Shogun back at 100%, I feel like this could be as good as his fight with Nogueira.
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by Robert Downey Sr. on Oct 14, 2009 4:08 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
he's back 100%
Lyoto better watch out!
SHOGUN WILL SLAY THE DRAGON!!!
SHOGUN TO BE THE NEW LHW CHAMP!!!
by orcus on Oct 14, 2009 12:49 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Shogun's only chance is landing one of those looping hooks while Machida is backing.
And that seems pretty unlikely, but possible.
Still, I can’t see Machida falling here.
However, as much as Machida is growing on me, if he does lose…then we could easily see Anderson come up to LHW and fight for the title…and REVENGE! ;-)
by Razreshat on Oct 14, 2009 10:31 AM EDT reply actions 0 recs
that would be sick
Anderson vs Shogun, best fight of the year candidate without even seeing the fight :P
SHOGUN WILL SLAY THE DRAGON!!!
SHOGUN TO BE THE NEW LHW CHAMP!!!
by orcus on Oct 14, 2009 12:50 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Honestly, I think Anderson would murder Shogun in ways that not even Lyoto is capable of.
by Razreshat on Oct 14, 2009 12:58 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
I doubt it
SHOGUN WILL SLAY THE DRAGON!!!
SHOGUN TO BE THE NEW LHW CHAMP!!!
by orcus on Oct 14, 2009 1:01 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
"I don't think Shogun is really worthy of fighting me"
“Really, who has he beat?
…I want more money."
by Shaun32887 on Oct 14, 2009 2:34 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
“Rua Will Show the World How to Beat Lyoto”. Haha, this doesn’t get old. I hope Shogun doesn’t get griffined in that fight.
It’s the same Dida that recently lost to Kikuno, and got owned by Buakaw (after 2 good rounds). I don’t believe him.
by dancingChicken on Oct 14, 2009 11:11 AM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Kikuno’s creepy smile and zombie stance ftw.
by Big4Nuthin' on Oct 14, 2009 11:55 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Quote of the Day: “Shogun Rua Will Show the World How to get Beat by Lyoto Machida”
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by WeaponElDeem on Oct 14, 2009 11:26 AM EDT reply actions 0 recs
it will not be shogun who beats machida. it will be either a new rejuventated tito ortiz or a craft randy couture who beats machida
by SHOWMAN 56 on Oct 14, 2009 11:38 AM EDT reply actions 0 recs
hahaha
that was so funny in so many levels :P
SHOGUN WILL SLAY THE DRAGON!!!
SHOGUN TO BE THE NEW LHW CHAMP!!!
by orcus on Oct 14, 2009 12:52 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Ortiz totally almost got close to hitting Machida the first time they fought, so just imagine how close he can get with a good back!
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by TearsofaClown on Oct 14, 2009 1:47 PM EDT up reply actions 3 recs
When the best you can say is
“he got close to hitting Machida,” that’s not encouraging
by Shaun32887 on Oct 14, 2009 2:35 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Oh please Orcus.
Ortiz doesnt stand a chance, but Shogun does? Yea, ok.
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by FutureChamp on Oct 14, 2009 4:52 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
shogun would rape ortiz silly dude :P
SHOGUN WILL SLAY THE DRAGON!!!
SHOGUN TO BE THE NEW LHW CHAMP!!!
by orcus on Oct 15, 2009 10:45 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA
How is this not rec’d?
by Captain7 on Oct 14, 2009 8:34 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
I know how to beat machida!!!!
Skill!!!!
I hate how people talk like Machida needs to be found out. He is just a skillful fighter. Unorthodox, but skillful as shit! He’s got the wrestling, the jiu-jitsu and the striking. And he fights like a proper MMA fighter i.e. he will play to his opponents weaknesses. He’s not a con man, or a trickster, he’s just a very skillful fighter who has worked very hard and for a very long time.
That said I do think that Shogun will be a huge test for him, and probably the toughest test he could face in the UFC.
by Ilias on Oct 14, 2009 11:57 AM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Well, no...
Machida doesn’t fight like other guys, so the usual techniques don’t seem to work on him. He’s a puzzle that needs to be solved, you can’t just use “brute force and ignorance” approaches
by Shaun32887 on Oct 14, 2009 12:28 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Shogun is not a meat head, sometimes I think many here haven’t watched any of his fights from Pride. He’s a very intelligent fighter, that will change pace if the fight is not going his way. What you described here is Wanderlei’s style, not Shogun’s.
SHOGUN WILL SLAY THE DRAGON!!!
SHOGUN TO BE THE NEW LHW CHAMP!!!
by orcus on Oct 14, 2009 12:55 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Wasn't saying that's his approach
I was just replying to the quote that
I hate how people talk like Machida needs to be found out.
I’m saying that there NEEDS to be a thoughtful, calculating process to beat him, and that usual techniques simply applied better probably won’t cut it.
Can Rua do it? That remains to be seen, but I certianly haven’t counted him out.
Sorry if it came off like that though
by Shaun32887 on Oct 14, 2009 2:33 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
I misread what you wrote
my bad :P
SHOGUN WILL SLAY THE DRAGON!!!
SHOGUN TO BE THE NEW LHW CHAMP!!!
by orcus on Oct 14, 2009 2:34 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
SHOGUN = SLAYING THE Drag
WAR SHOGUN!!!
Tito did stand in the ring for three rounds and is not even close to a MMA fighter as Shogun.
I do see Shogun winning this fight. Shogun, kick the drag in the head then kick his leg off… Hell yeah!!!
SHOGUN by total domination…
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by N1SHOGUNRUAFAN on Oct 14, 2009 12:12 PM EDT via mobile reply actions 0 recs
this is just orcus on another account he created
by cagefightonacid on Oct 14, 2009 1:47 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions 0 recs
hey now
I only have one account… it’s good to know that I’m not the only one blinded by Machidaness though :P
SHOGUN WILL SLAY THE DRAGON!!!
SHOGUN TO BE THE NEW LHW CHAMP!!!
by orcus on Oct 14, 2009 1:52 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
-NOT blinded haha
SHOGUN WILL SLAY THE DRAGON!!!
SHOGUN TO BE THE NEW LHW CHAMP!!!
by orcus on Oct 14, 2009 1:53 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
1 Machidaness is an excellent word. Do you mind if I use it?
2 Are you english as a second language? If so then great job with the wordplay!
Keep firing Assholes!
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by Ubernoober on Oct 14, 2009 1:55 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
1 yes
2 yes (thanks :P)
SHOGUN WILL SLAY THE DRAGON!!!
SHOGUN TO BE THE NEW LHW CHAMP!!!
by orcus on Oct 14, 2009 1:57 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
oops
1- is I don’t mind if you use it hehe, that came out wrong :)
SHOGUN WILL SLAY THE DRAGON!!!
SHOGUN TO BE THE NEW LHW CHAMP!!!
by orcus on Oct 14, 2009 1:58 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
I also will begin using Machidaness :)
Look forward to seeing it in many post coming soon…
by AfroSamurai on Oct 14, 2009 2:10 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
just playin, i enjoy your rabid shogun loyalty
by cagefightonacid on Oct 14, 2009 10:21 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
How to Beat Machida:
Slip some muscle relaxants into hos pre fight urine smoothie.
Keep firing Assholes!
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by Ubernoober on Oct 14, 2009 12:58 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
But don't you think that will make him even more "chill" in the cage?
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by Robert Downey Sr. on Oct 14, 2009 4:12 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Now Expecting Big Things... Machida DVD
I wasn’t expecting much but a quick fight with another highlight reel Lyoto Machida finish, which still may happen.
But hearing how confident they are and considering the Machida DVD that is out Shogun may have really learned a defense against each of Lyoto’s moves
Shogun is well-trained. We worked knowing that Lyoto is an athlete who moves very much.
by AfroSamurai on Oct 14, 2009 1:25 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
I think it has more to do with the fact that they recruited a few Karate fighters to help him prep. I think watching Lyoto’s fights instead of his DVD’s would make more sense too, instructions are not always executions…
SHOGUN WILL SLAY THE DRAGON!!!
SHOGUN TO BE THE NEW LHW CHAMP!!!
by orcus on Oct 14, 2009 1:28 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
This may be true for plan B, C, D and E he may need to check those DVD’s out because from the fights only i don’t think one could capture the true essence of his Machidaness
by AfroSamurai on Oct 14, 2009 2:25 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
That series was out before the Rashad fight as well.
A man should never waste an opportunity to keep his mouth shut.
by iiowyn on Oct 14, 2009 2:49 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
This is true...
I wonder if Greg took advantage of this… if so Machidaness is really, as mike tyson would call it…impregnable.
by AfroSamurai on Oct 14, 2009 3:17 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
When Machida said “[Rashad] cannot defend my style. No one can.” he was being serious. He studies his opponents with his father and finds the moments where they are vulnerable and unable to defend properly and attacks then.
A man should never waste an opportunity to keep his mouth shut.
by iiowyn on Oct 14, 2009 6:12 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
This makes me happy.
:)
SHOGUN WILL SLAY THE DRAGON!!!
SHOGUN TO BE THE NEW LHW CHAMP!!!
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by xFenixKnightx on Oct 14, 2009 2:06 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
lyoto is arguably better than shogun in every aspect except maybe soccer kicks
i find it hard to see shogun beating machida except for maybe a lucky shot
machidaness FTW
by CC11 on Oct 14, 2009 2:50 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
there is no such thing as a lucky shot
if Shogun KOs Lyoto, it’s because he meant to!
SHOGUN WILL SLAY THE DRAGON!!!
SHOGUN TO BE THE NEW LHW CHAMP!!!
by orcus on Oct 14, 2009 3:02 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
it’s lucky if the underdog lands it. if the favorite lands the big kaybash it’s cuz he meant to.
by Headkick on Oct 14, 2009 6:07 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Shogun has got to do something to damage Machida’s legs. Leg kicks would be the recipe to slow down most fighters, but can Shogun’s MT catch up to Lyoto? I could see Shogun getting Lyoto on his back just to slap some kicks in time before the ref stands Machida back up.
That, or slicing his Achilles tendon “Hostel”-style.
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by Robert Downey Sr. on Oct 14, 2009 4:16 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Machida loves to drop a left straight down the pipe in response to leg kicks.
A man should never waste an opportunity to keep his mouth shut.
by iiowyn on Oct 14, 2009 6:14 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
karate fighters are tough as f*ck
they train every possible part of their body to be a weapon [feel free to enter your joke here]
i doubt if leg kicks would slow lyoto at all
by CC11 on Oct 14, 2009 6:29 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
karate fighters are tough as f*ck
as opposed to those soft MMA fighters?
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by Benicio on Oct 15, 2009 2:52 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Well Dida was exactly right… interesting reading these comments in hindsight :)
by brad23 on Oct 25, 2009 5:53 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
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