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Kimbo Slice vs. Chuck Liddell- Is It A Good Idea?

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There has been a lot of discussion about what exactly the UFC's plan is for TUF 10 contestant Kimbo Slice. Kimbo and Dana White have both stated that he will be fighting in the UFC again, most likely in December. Whether that will be at the TUF 10 finale or UFC 107 has not yet been determined. If the fight is at the TUF finale the best guess is that it will be against another contestant on the show, most likely one of the lesser competitors. If it is at UFC 107 the name Houston Alexander has been brought up and Kimbo has stated he is willing to cut to 205. Either way the idea is to match Kimbo up with someone who will stand with him hoping to get Kimbo a highlight reel KO to generate some buzz for a big-money matchup for Kimbo sometime next year. With who you might ask? Enter The Iceman.

 

Chuck Liddell hasn't fought since April 18th at UFC 97, a loss to LHW title contender Mauricio 'Shogun' Rua. At the time Dana White was pushing the idea that this was Chuck's last fight. Unfortunately for him Chuck didn't necessarily see it that way. So what are you to do with a fighter who doesn't want to retire and still has fights left on his contract yet is clearly past his prime? Well, first of all you give him some time off and land him a spot on 'Dancing With the Stars'. Then what? This is the question Dana White, Lorenzo Fertitta, and Joe Silva are struggling with. Before DWTS was confirmed there was some talk of Chuck vs. Rich Franklin at UFC 103 but obviously that didn't pan out. Then it was decided Chuck would take an extended break to film the TV show. That put the question of Chuck's next opponent on the back-burner for a bit but eventually the question would still need to be answered.

 

For those of you who have been living under a rock since spring the news that Kimbo Slice would compete on The Ultimate Fighter broke on June 1st. In the third episode he was chosen to fight Roy 'Big Country' Nelson and was quickly smothered. That fight pretty much proved what we already knew- Kimbo is a raw fighter with no ground game and a decent punch. But he does do one thing better than almost any other MMA fighter- bring in viewers. The casual audience can't get enough of the street fighting legend and the UFC knows this. The question is what is the best way to squeeze the most money out of the Kimbo train before he is hung out to dry. They can't risk putting him in there with guys like Nelson who will quickly take him down and sub or TKO him on the ground. The guy isn't an elite fighter and most likely will never have the skills to compete at the highest levels of the sport but that doesn't mean he can't be an important part of Zuffa's business plan with the right marketing and matchups. If only there were a fighter that loved to stand and bang, wasn't overly fast or technical, and had the same type of name recognition as Kimbo......

 

A Chuck Liddell vs. Kimbo Slice matchup makes perfect sense, not only for the UFC but for both fighters as well. If (and this is admittedly a big IF) Kimbo can take care of business in December, against a guy that will be hand picked as the best possible matchup for Kimbo, this will set up one of the biggest fights in UFC history. Not big as far as title implications go but big in the sense that it will more than likely deliver one of the two biggest buyrates in company history. If Kimbo wins it will just make him that much bigger of a name and legitimize him to an extent most likely guaranteeing him at least two or three more fights in the UFC. If Chuck wins it will probably put him one victory away from a final shot at title. If Kimbo loses then it will not surprise anyone and will probably chase him from the promotion, proving he does not belong. If Chuck loses that will be three in a row and will tell him once and for all it is time to hang up the gloves. My only hope is that they don't make this the main event as it is not worthy of that status, as the co-main of a card featuring an Anderson Silva or BJ Penn title defense it makes perfect sense. I'm rooting for Kimbo to win his next fight as I think this would be wildly entertaining and bring in hoards of new fans like UFC 100 did. Good luck Kimbo, let's make this fight happen!

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Chuck would

do that to Kimbo.

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by ElliotMatheny on Oct 12, 2009 12:51 AM EDT reply actions   0 recs

Yeah, then again I thought the same thing against Rashad and Shogun. The UFC would probably be hoping for a Chuck KO but either way would be good for business.

Walla walla walla I'm an idiot.

by ufc4 on Oct 12, 2009 1:03 AM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

I know

But Rua and Evans are studs.

Not to shit on Kimbo… but he just isn’t a very good fighter. Even his striking is stiff and sloppy, and his standup is supposed to be his forte.

I would like, just for once, for Chuck to use his wrestling and just GnP the shit out of someone. Because the threat of a takedown makes a fighter’s striking so much more dangerous and effective, which is 1 thing that Chuck is lacking; his relatively 2- dimensional sprawl-n-brawl style just doesn’t cut it anymore.

And i’d be willing to bet that even a worn out Chuck has a better chin and more power in his hands than Kimbo ever has.

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by ElliotMatheny on Oct 12, 2009 2:59 AM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

so Chuck couldnt beat that what #3 and 4 lhw's in the world

and now Kimbo has a chance. I’m sorry but Liddell would own Kimbo.

Kimbo is now getting more love based soley on the fact that he is in the UFC now.

UFC Kimbo = Elite XC Kimbo = Not that good of a fighter.

by bigdmmafan on Oct 12, 2009 3:48 AM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

I agree, I didn’t mean for the article to sound like I think Kimbo has a good chance of winning because he doesn’t, I just wanted to present all scenarios. And for the record I have never been a fan of either guy but I do recognize Chuck as a legend in the sport and Kimbo as someone who can bring a bunch of new fans into the sport.

Walla walla walla I'm an idiot.

by ufc4 on Oct 12, 2009 8:24 AM EDT via mobile up reply actions   0 recs

How...

would chuck winning against Kimbo put him in line for a title shot? I mean i like Chuck and Kimbo but beating Kimbo would make chuck no more wothy of a title shot than Roy Nelson is.

by BakiHanma21 on Oct 12, 2009 1:09 AM EDT reply actions   0 recs

Because he's Chuck Liddell

The same way Randy Couture probably only needs two wins at LHW to earn a title shot a legend like Chuck who is a big draw is always just a couple wins away.

Walla walla walla I'm an idiot.

by ufc4 on Oct 12, 2009 1:13 AM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

If Dana does care about Chuck he will not put him anywhere near being in the same cage as Machida.

by brad23 on Oct 12, 2009 9:29 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

What about as a guest commentator.

Keep firing Assholes!

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by Ubernoober on Oct 12, 2009 9:42 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

That sounds like a good fight

Now the question is what part of the first round does Alexander win it in? I’m going for the safe bet and saying about 2:30 into the match

"Did you feel you did well against Lindland?" "
Hell no.. I wanted to break the law"
---Rampage

by TearsofaClown on Oct 12, 2009 1:44 AM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

That’s just not a safe fight for Kimbo at all. I can imagine Kimbo just getting totally overwhelmed in the first couple of minutes. I’d imagine that the UFC would line Kimbo up with someone else, but I have no idea who.

by chrisbboy82 on Oct 12, 2009 1:55 AM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Yeah, say what we will about Houston on the ground, he still hits like a truck. He would probably smash Kimbo in the clinch, kncok him down, pound him out.

"That feeling after you win and they raise your hand... it's like you have this energy that releases from your body, and it's like you mingle with the cosmos, and you feel omnipotent"

by woomikee on Oct 12, 2009 10:51 AM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

It’s official, I’m getting tickets. Not becuase of this, just saying, I’ve made plans. =) Gonna be a great show…hope the fans don’t let me down. haha

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by kyfm621 on Oct 12, 2009 2:18 AM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

I'm for it

as long as Chuck takes it as a farewell fight. Let him take out Kimbo, someone with a decent name, and retire on a win. There’s a small chance that Kimbo will KO Chuck again, but Kimbo seems VERY slow, I’d like to think that the formerly slick and elusive Liddell can still avoid Kimbo’s offense.

by Shaun32887 on Oct 12, 2009 2:37 AM EDT reply actions   0 recs

After Chuck beat Kimbo

Dana would probably try to make a deal with him to fight for the title, and then retire, win or lose.

That way Chuck would get a big payday with Kimbo, and then one more title shot. Win or lose that fight, he would be going out a legend, and hopefully satisfied with his career.

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by nandez44 on Oct 12, 2009 8:44 AM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Chuck would waste Kimbo.

Old Busted Chuck > Kimbo.

Keep firing Assholes!

It doesn't take rocket appliances to figure this out.

by Ubernoober on Oct 12, 2009 3:17 AM EDT reply actions   0 recs

chuck in wheelchair > Kimbo

We're just a million little gods causin' rain storms, turning every good thing to rust.

by Robert Downey Sr. on Oct 12, 2009 3:58 AM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Chuck Liddell in 2004-2006 would have murdered Kimbo. In fact, I don’t think any sane athetic commission would have allowed the two to fight. Chuck Liddell in 2009 has, admittedly, lost a step and some of that murderous power, but he still has years and years of experience fighting in the top. I don’t see Kimbo having the speed or the reflexes to out-punch Chuck.

by lhasafi on Oct 12, 2009 3:48 AM EDT reply actions   0 recs

The other thing that people forget

Besides the ko’s Chuck is not getting dominated in these fights.

I had Chuck beat Rashad before the ko
I had Shogun beating Chuck before the ko but it was very close
Even with Rampage it’s not like he dominated Chuck before koing him

I would honestly say the worst I think I have seen Chuck look is against Jardine.

Maybe you all will think I’m stupid but I’m talking look bad not just getting ko’d.

by bigdmmafan on Oct 12, 2009 3:54 AM EDT reply actions   0 recs

I had Shogun beating Chuck before the ko but it was very close

Seriously? What about the takedown and all the kicks Shogun was landing? I like Chuck too, but you’re seeing what you want to see.

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by Ubernoober on Oct 12, 2009 1:09 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

reread that quote.

by JaTinkles on Oct 12, 2009 1:44 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Uber, you know better than that. Or are you wasted at an Eastern European sex party?

"You guys are jerking eachother off with some pseudo deep bullshit." - Kid Nate

by kyfm621 on Oct 12, 2009 5:43 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

“baaaaaa” means “no”

Keep firing Assholes!

It doesn't take rocket appliances to figure this out.

by Ubernoober on Oct 12, 2009 7:48 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

I’ll take Chuck, via armbar R1

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by Robert Downey Sr. on Oct 12, 2009 4:00 AM EDT reply actions   0 recs

I'm against it

Liddell is in the twilight of his career. He may literally have only one more fight in him. Give the fight to someone that might still have a future but really needs a comeback win, like Cro Cop. Cro Cop will probably never be a UFC Champion but he could be regain his relevancy at least. Randy Couture is another guy who could really use a win about now, still has a few more fights in him, and this would still be a big name fight.

by Chromium on Oct 12, 2009 4:34 AM EDT reply actions   0 recs

Why not send Chuck out on a fight that would be a HUGE payday and that he has a great chance of winning?

Walla walla walla I'm an idiot.

by ufc4 on Oct 12, 2009 8:11 AM EDT via mobile up reply actions   0 recs

Because you can make the argument this fight is beneath Chuck. Sure, he hasn’t won much recently. But Chuck was fighting ranked light heavyweights. This is way down the ladder in terms of quality of opposition.

by Andy R on Oct 12, 2009 10:53 AM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

So let Chuck make that choice, if it’s beneath him he can turn it down.

Walla walla walla I'm an idiot.

by ufc4 on Oct 12, 2009 11:09 AM EDT via mobile up reply actions   0 recs

I agree, if they really want to make that fight, then go for it.

I don’t think it’s competitive or meaningful, but it’ll make money, that’s for sure.

by Andy R on Oct 12, 2009 11:18 AM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Yeah, the fight isn’t about finding out which one is a contender, it’s mainly just a fun fight for the casual audience and I don’t see anything wrong with that.

Walla walla walla I'm an idiot.

by ufc4 on Oct 12, 2009 2:14 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions   0 recs

It’s a bad idea because Chuck shouldn’t fight at all.

And what if Kimbo catches Chuck with a shot and puts him down? The UFC would make Kimbo the company posterboy which would be good for PPV numbers, but bad for the sport.

by MMAEruption on Oct 12, 2009 8:14 AM EDT reply actions   0 recs

Chuck apparently still wants to fight and if Dana White can’t stop him you or I certainly can’t. Who are we to tell a guy what to do with his life? And Kimbo will never be a posterboy for the UFC, he may get more exposure than a lot of other non main event guys but he won’t be bigger than Brock or GSP.

Walla walla walla I'm an idiot.

by ufc4 on Oct 12, 2009 8:29 AM EDT via mobile up reply actions   0 recs

If Sakuraba is still fighting then Chuck has plenty of life left in him yet.

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by Benicio on Oct 12, 2009 8:53 AM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Oof, Sakuraba is not a good example. He absolutely should not be fighting.

by JRN on Oct 12, 2009 3:52 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

How about the last man Chuck defeated, Wanderlei Silva?

Walla walla walla I'm an idiot.

by ufc4 on Oct 12, 2009 5:39 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions   0 recs

How about the last man Chuck defeated, Wanderlei Silva?

Walla walla walla I'm an idiot.

by ufc4 on Oct 12, 2009 5:41 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions   0 recs

he’s got a staggering facial hair advantage as well. hard to overcome that.

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by nandez44 on Oct 12, 2009 8:46 AM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

oh, I see

the picture size.

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by nandez44 on Oct 12, 2009 8:47 AM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

I dont' think Kimbo vs Chuck will ever happen

since Houston will most likely wreck Kimbo if that fight happens.

by BNeL21 on Oct 12, 2009 10:39 AM EDT reply actions   0 recs

Yeah if it is in fact Houston I don’t like Kimbo’s chances. But you never know, it only takes one punch.

Walla walla walla I'm an idiot.

by ufc4 on Oct 12, 2009 11:12 AM EDT via mobile up reply actions   0 recs

Houston hits fucking hard. Kimbo doesn’t.

Keep firing Assholes!

It doesn't take rocket appliances to figure this out.

by Ubernoober on Oct 12, 2009 1:10 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

I hate delusional fantasy booking scenarios where fans just throw out names of 2 guys and try and make a case as to why that is the best idea ever. Chuck and Kimbo don’t belong in the same sentence let alone be in the octagon at the same time.

Chuck will probably fight 1 more time and it’ll probably be against a legend like Coleman someone who’s at the same level that he is and then retire for good afterwards.

by Raker on Oct 12, 2009 10:08 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

Then don’t fucking read it, if you aren’t intelligent enough to figure out what this article was about by reading the title then that’s your problem.

Walla walla walla I'm an idiot.

by ufc4 on Oct 12, 2009 10:54 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions   2 recs

don’t get sensitive, if your going to post something be prepared for feedback even if it’s something you don’t want to hear.

by Raker on Oct 13, 2009 5:17 AM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

I just think it’s pretty dumb on your part to read an article on a subject that you know going into it isn’t something you want to hear about. If you hate it so much why even bother reading it? If you’re that bored maybe YOU should write an article and post it, which you have never done. You must be too busy bitching about other people’s stuff to actually put some thought into creating something of your own.

Walla walla walla I'm an idiot.

by ufc4 on Oct 13, 2009 2:04 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions   0 recs

There’s more to it than that. Chuck was one of the most outspoken guys about Kimbo when he had his stint in the EliteXC, the UFC could easily turn it into a storyline.

http://mmajunkie.com/news/4229/chuck-liddell-responds-to-kimbo-slices-latest-warning.mma

by brad23 on Oct 13, 2009 2:15 AM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Actually...

Based purely on name recognition, this could sell a lot of PPVs. Yeah, most hardcore fans would hate the idea, but tough shit. Business is business.

Former poster boy, fresh of national television run on Dancing with the Stars

VS.

Street fighting internet sensation, fresh off of his televised run on a popular MMA reality show

This is the stuff promoters dream about. It’s gold.

I agree it shouldn’t happen, but this is far from a “delusional fantasy”.

I enjoyed the post.

What a Fashion Don’t! That’s like your dick wearing socks with sandals.

by nandez44 on Oct 13, 2009 12:50 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

BTW

Dana White brought it up first, not me.

http://mmamania.com/2008/04/14/dana-white-hints-that-kimbo-slice-chuck-liddell-ufc-fight-could-be-possible/

In light of this and the article brad23 linked to maybe you need to do a little more research next time before you start throwing around words like “delusional”.

Walla walla walla I'm an idiot.

by ufc4 on Oct 13, 2009 4:17 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

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