Jordan Breen calls Ben Henderson's win over Donald Cerrone a bullsh*t decision.
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Jordan Breen gets butt hurt when people disagree with him. Smart guy, but he can eat a big one on this tip.
by Razz on Oct 11, 2009 1:10 AM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Good, someone lock the door when he goes in there.
"You guys are jerking eachother off with some pseudo deep bullshit." - Kid Nate
by kyfm621 on Oct 11, 2009 1:10 AM EDT reply actions 0 recs
That's Sherdog for you ...
… their writers taking one of the fights of the year and calling “bullshit” when there is none.
by andherewego on Oct 11, 2009 1:11 AM EDT reply actions 0 recs
And seriously, that wasn’t even in the ballpark of how bad the Bebee-Easton decion was. Did he write an article on that? Did he try to do anything about that bullshit decision? Or is all he capable of doing going into a closet and crying?
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by kyfm621 on Oct 11, 2009 1:12 AM EDT reply actions 0 recs
To be fair, it was a twitter.
He didn’t say it was terrible or the worst by far, just BS.
He calls it fight of the year. How many one sided “fight of the year” candidates have you seen. To me a fight has to be competitive and evenly match to pretty much qualify. (There are some exceptions like Gonzaga vs. CC, but those are VERY decisive finishes and I’d still rather call them “finish of the year”).
Just notice you respect Kid Nate when he calls BS (your sig), no respect for Sherdog staff opinion?
by natyong on Oct 11, 2009 9:22 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
I respect the man’s opinion, but my whole issue is with him (and some others now it seems) calling it a “bullshit” decision. I just don’t see it that way. I saw it as a very close fight, that would have been fit to be scored as a draw, but for either man to win was definately not “bullshit”. I just feel like people are so upset Cerrone lose, they’re not giving Ben his props, when the kid fought his ass off, and showed a lot of heart getting out of those subs.
"You guys are jerking eachother off with some pseudo deep bullshit." - Kid Nate
by kyfm621 on Oct 11, 2009 9:52 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
I had Cerrone winning it
but it could have gone either way. It was round 1 and thats it because Cerrone attempted the submissions and Henderson landed some good shots.
Anyone that is that pissed off with the decision isnt pissed off because they think it was a bad decision they’re pissed off because they were rooting for Cerrone.
by bigdmmafan on Oct 11, 2009 1:12 AM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Exactly. You’d think someone like Breen would have a level head about it? I honestly thought it could have been a draw.
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by kyfm621 on Oct 11, 2009 1:14 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
i like jordan breen a lot
but he has a REAL big hard on for giving rounds to guys off their backs
by yngjzy on Oct 11, 2009 1:14 AM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Very true and one thing I agree with Breen is Judges should score more 10-10 rounds but Breen falls in love with scoring rounds a 10-10. Just look at some of his scores on sherdog for events I have never seen someone score so many dam 10-10 rounds.
by Shocbomb on Oct 11, 2009 10:49 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
The guy called “Cowboy” lost in Texas. That ain’t a BS win.
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by Ubernoober on Oct 11, 2009 1:14 AM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Someone needs to grow up
Bullshit? No. I had it as either a tie or 48-47 Cerrone, but I can see how Henderson got the decision.
This is what happens when you leave a close fight in the hands of the judges. Deal with it.
by Shaun32887 on Oct 11, 2009 1:15 AM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Still, Breen is the truth most of the time, so let’s not crap on him too much
by Razz on Oct 11, 2009 1:15 AM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Thats why it’s such a headache to see him say shit like this.
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by kyfm621 on Oct 11, 2009 1:16 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
At least Breen has reasonable evidence for his stance
I listen to his radio show all the time, and the thing is that even if you don’t agree with him, he does provide reasonable evidence for his position. It’s not like he is calling bs for no reason whatsoever. His stance is that Cerrone had rounds 1, 4, and 5 with round 5 possibly being a 10-8 because Henderson did hardly anything in round 5. I would get on his case more if he had absolutely no reasonable evidence for his stance, but he does provide it.
by chrisbboy82 on Oct 11, 2009 3:46 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
how can anyone take this guy seriously
by dumbwhiteguy on Oct 11, 2009 1:18 AM EDT reply actions 3 recs
Wait, so he REALLY does look like his twitter avatar?
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by themachiavellian on Oct 11, 2009 1:20 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
yes
that’s not even to say how pretentious he acts
by dumbwhiteguy on Oct 11, 2009 1:23 AM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
Is Breen the lead singer of Static X?
:D
by who me on Oct 11, 2009 7:48 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
It sounds like Breen lost some coin on Cerrone, while the knowledgeable MMA fans road the +280 to the house.
by BSurely on Oct 11, 2009 1:21 AM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Great Fight Bad Decision
I thought Cerrone won the fight. Henderson is a stud though. He must be made of rubber.
by Motorcycle Johnny on Oct 11, 2009 1:22 AM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Good, close fight. I had Don winning 1, 4 and 5, but I can live with Ben winning. Dude was the energizer bunny with killer sub defense.
by Lynchman on Oct 11, 2009 1:23 AM EDT reply actions 0 recs
I agree with Breen on this one, but comparing it to what happened in the UWC is taking it too far.
by Jahbulon on Oct 11, 2009 1:26 AM EDT reply actions 0 recs
He did not totaly compare it to what happend at the UWC if you listned to beatdown after the bell last night he clearly says it was a bad decision but no where near asd bad as Bebee vs Easton,
by Shocbomb on Oct 11, 2009 10:52 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
even my GF picked Ben Henderson. Come on son
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by pitbull187 on Oct 11, 2009 1:26 AM EDT reply actions 1 recs
I had it 48-48 but realize that will never be the call and it was therefore going to be 48-47 henderson
by Gerrymanderer on Oct 11, 2009 3:18 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
I didn’t think it was that bad of a decision and I don’t understand why he is upset about it? I mean it was a very close fight that could of gone either way. I don’t see how he could think it was BS, it was just that close?
by who me on Oct 11, 2009 1:26 AM EDT reply actions 0 recs
People who are freaking out need to breathe a minute. The fight was extremely close, and I honestly feel it should have been a draw if anything, although thats terrible for an Interim Title fight. It was a close fight, the first round had an equal amount of dominance by Ben in the latter half of the round, which neutralized the submission attempts from Cerrone in the first half. The next round was all Ben, and from there it gets rough. It’s really not that bad guys. It was an awesome fight, and a close one…it was obvious some people would be upset when it went to the judges…it happens. Thats just the way it goes.
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by kyfm621 on Oct 11, 2009 1:30 AM EDT reply actions 0 recs
If anything now that the fight is over and done with
we should be uniting for Henderson to take out Varner. Lets come together in our hate of Varner and realize Cerrone will be back.
by bigdmmafan on Oct 11, 2009 1:34 AM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
In a perfect world, Henderson will beat Varner, and Cerrone either gets the next shot, or he beats Varner, then gets the shot. Another 5 round Henderson/Cerrone match is needed.
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by kyfm621 on Oct 11, 2009 1:35 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
How did you score it a draw ? Did you have the first round a 10-10 ? Thats the only way I can see that fight a draw.
by Shocbomb on Oct 11, 2009 10:54 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Liar, trolls never admit they are trolling!!!!!!!
(Grabs pitch fork and gathers angry mob + torches)
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by kyfm621 on Oct 11, 2009 1:31 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
now i is confuse.
Keep firing Assholes!
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by Ubernoober on Oct 11, 2009 1:32 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
I know, that reply didn’t make a lick of sense looking back on it. Forgive me, I’ve been drinking.
(Puts away pitch fork.)
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by kyfm621 on Oct 11, 2009 1:34 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Where are you putting that pitchfork?
Keep firing Assholes!
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by Ubernoober on Oct 11, 2009 1:35 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
…Ummm…no where.
(Walks away bow legged.)
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by kyfm621 on Oct 11, 2009 1:37 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Next question: Where are you that you have easy access to internet, liquor, torches, and a mob of Eastern European peasants?
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by Ubernoober on Oct 11, 2009 1:38 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
My bedroom…don’t ask, it was a wild night.
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by kyfm621 on Oct 11, 2009 1:39 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
baaaaaaa
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by Ubernoober on Oct 11, 2009 1:40 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
If that was your best impersonation of a sheep, you are definately thinking what I’m thinking….
Man this has become drawn out.
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by kyfm621 on Oct 11, 2009 1:42 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Man this has become drawn out
That’s what she said. She’s around here somewhere under all of these empty bottles of CC and waffles.
Keep firing Assholes!
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by Ubernoober on Oct 11, 2009 1:43 AM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
LMAO
“Thats what she said” gets a rec in my book
by Nick Travaglini on Oct 11, 2009 9:02 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
The oldest one-liner in the book gets a rec? ooookayyyy….
by BNTHIS on Oct 12, 2009 5:39 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Huh?
Who watches Boxing in the Closet..?
Weeiirrdoo..
by MSEMCEE on Oct 11, 2009 1:37 AM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Listening to Beatdown After the Bell right now…
Dude is really disappointed in the decision…
by Tonley on Oct 11, 2009 1:39 AM EDT reply actions 0 recs
If the people who think it’s that bad of a decision would really highlight some of their reasons for thinking so, I’d like to hear/read it…I’ll keep an open mind…but really, I don’t think either guy lost that fight, and if one of them did, I believe it was Cerrone.
"You guys are jerking eachother off with some pseudo deep bullshit." - Kid Nate
by kyfm621 on Oct 11, 2009 1:42 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Breen basically said he gave more weight to the subs Cowboy had in the first half of the round than what BenHen did in the second half
by Tonley on Oct 11, 2009 1:45 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
I can’t agree with that, because if memory serves it was more like the first 1/4 of the round where Henderson was in trouble, not so much a half. But thats just a judgement thing…it’s MMA, you can’t expect everyone to be happy when it’s that close.
"You guys are jerking eachother off with some pseudo deep bullshit." - Kid Nate
by kyfm621 on Oct 11, 2009 1:47 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
The fight was close enough to go either way so I won’t argue with the decision. However, just food for thought, who was closer to finishing the fight in the first round?
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by crinow on Oct 11, 2009 9:23 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
“Almost” only counts with dying and fat girls my friend.
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by kyfm621 on Oct 11, 2009 9:40 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
And to be honest, we don’t know how close Ben was to being finished in those subs, because apparently this man has some sick arteries, and crazy flexibility. It was the very beginning of the fight and Ben didn’t seem phased by those sub attempts at all, so I gave him the round.
"You guys are jerking eachother off with some pseudo deep bullshit." - Kid Nate
by kyfm621 on Oct 11, 2009 9:55 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
His neck wasn't even stuck in that triangle for more the 5 seconds.
After that Cowboy was just holding on.
by zeroword on Oct 11, 2009 11:24 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Yep, knew what you meant.
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by kyfm621 on Oct 11, 2009 1:47 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
YOU LOOK LIKE A DRAGONBALL Z CHARACTER!!!
Keep firing Assholes!
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by Ubernoober on Oct 11, 2009 1:44 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Someone photoshop Super Saiyan Breen!
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by themachiavellian on Oct 11, 2009 1:49 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
I stopped my self from saying that earlier, but now that it’s out in the open.
DO IT!!!
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by kyfm621 on Oct 11, 2009 1:50 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
can we make fun of your ridiculous attitude
by dumbwhiteguy on Oct 11, 2009 1:45 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Hehe.
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by kyfm621 on Oct 11, 2009 1:47 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Hahaha
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by Rundownloser on Oct 11, 2009 1:31 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Breen had the 5th round 10-8 Cerrone. Yes, 10-8. Wow.
Jordan, where did you come up with that?
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by Beer Monster on Oct 11, 2009 1:45 AM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Henderson did nothing in that round except get beat on.
by Jahbulon on Oct 11, 2009 1:46 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
And not tap. I’d have to watch the 5th round again, I admit, I was too blown away by Ben not tapping to focus much.
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by kyfm621 on Oct 11, 2009 1:49 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
When your only positive attribute is not tapping...that's not good.
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by P Brady on Oct 11, 2009 1:50 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
And he ended up on top once or twice. That last round alone dosen’t win the fight for Cerrone. Seriously…a draw. Thats what I see. Neither man was truly beaten, and it was dreadfully close.
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by kyfm621 on Oct 11, 2009 1:51 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Well.
I had it as a draw.
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by P Brady on Oct 11, 2009 1:50 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
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by P Brady on Oct 11, 2009 1:52 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Why did your post do that? But yeah, this fight could be one of the greatest example of a 5 round draw. But my biggest point is, the decision wasn’t bad enough for people to call it bullshit. It is VERY likely that if there had been some different judges, Cowboy could have won. Just depends on who scored how heavily for what. This decision shouldn’t overshadow how impressive both men looked tonight.
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by kyfm621 on Oct 11, 2009 1:54 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
I did that on purpose to agree with you.
I just don’t think either is a good style matchup against Varner.
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by P Brady on Oct 11, 2009 1:57 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
I think everyone can agree that Ben lost that last round but I just didn’t see a 10-8.
by who me on Oct 11, 2009 1:55 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
I hadn’t even considered the possibility of that being a 10-8 round. Yet, in the context of the criteria of a 10-8 round, what would constitute a 2 point advantage from the grappling position? In other words, I recognize that a knockdown, or multiple knockdowns and utter round dominance may warrant a 10-8 round. Yet, it seems that is significantly more difficult to warrant a 10-8 round if you are dominating by putting on multiple submissions.
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by crinow on Oct 11, 2009 9:27 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
So did alot of people y I myself did not score the 5th a 10-8 for Cerrone but alot of people in that chat I was in last night did just like Breen.
by Shocbomb on Oct 11, 2009 11:06 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Bullshit Decision???
So every close fight that doesn’t go your favorite fighters way is Bullshit?
Bullshit attitude by Breen
It was either 48-47 Henderson or 48-48.
Ben won that first round.
by GoldenOldie on Oct 11, 2009 1:48 AM EDT reply actions 0 recs
On that 1st rd.
failed Sub attempts shouldn’t score you points.
by GoldenOldie on Oct 11, 2009 1:52 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Why not?
A knockdown is basically a failed knockout, but they still score points
by Shaun32887 on Oct 11, 2009 4:02 AM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
That’s because the fighter who got hit was damaged.
Going for a submission is often like trying to hit a home run. You either get it or come up short and it’s just a long fly ball. Generally you don’t damage or tire your opponent out in a failed submission. I think that’s what we saw here.
by bigweeze on Oct 11, 2009 11:14 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
It’s about control. Kinda like lay n pray.
by natyong on Oct 11, 2009 11:46 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Breen explains on BDATB last night how they were just not sub attempts but full applied locked on submissions and how that statment you just said “sub attempt” really varies.
by Shocbomb on Oct 11, 2009 11:16 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Apparently they weren’t locked on as well as people thought
by bigweeze on Oct 11, 2009 2:03 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
lol
I like Jordan Breen a lot so i wont partake in the bashing , but I thought the fight couldve been scored a draw . I had it 48-47 Cowboy.
by meyer1244 on Oct 11, 2009 1:48 AM EDT reply actions 0 recs
I had it as a draw.
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by P Brady on Oct 11, 2009 1:50 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Well I can only speak for myself but I would have been pissed had they ruled it a draw. I hate draws and in title fights, fuck that.
I gave it to Cerrone but I thought it could have gone either way and I’m just glad it wasnt a draw then Varner probably could have held onto the belt even longer.
by bigdmmafan on Oct 11, 2009 1:54 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Explain to me how Ben Henderson can beat Varner...
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by P Brady on Oct 11, 2009 1:58 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
How ? Easy its MMA thats how where anyone can be beat anyone at any given time. But hears my opinion on how Henderson can beat Varner. Henderson is also a great wrestler just like Varner who has just as much gas if not more then Varner in my opinion. In so many of Varners fights he gets gassed and his pace slows down in the latter rounds in some fights like the Hermes Franca fight Varner gasses real quick. When this happens Varner starts shooting lazy ass shots and totaly telegraphs his takedowns and I can See Henderson Pancaking Varner which could lead to Henderson doing many of things like getting Varner on his back, catching him in a choke or taking Varners back. Varners Gas Tank is his biggest weakness and enemy if Henderson takes this fight it will be from the 3rd round on when Varner starts to slow down. Thats how Henderson can win this fight
by Shocbomb on Oct 11, 2009 2:05 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
I thought Cerrone won it 48-47 but I wasn’t at all surprised when it went the other way, it was a very close fight and very close fights get scored very tight. To say it was a BS decision I’d have to see a obvious screwjob and I just didn’t see anything that led me to believe the fight was anything but very close. That’s what surprised me about Breen’s comments he normally is pretty spot on about these things but I just don’t see where this was that awful of a decision.
by who me on Oct 11, 2009 2:01 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
You know what? Fuck it.
I’m just going to have to get my internet on and watch the fight again….
by Tonley on Oct 11, 2009 1:51 AM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Versus is replaying the event right now, it will be on again in a bit.
by who me on Oct 11, 2009 1:53 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
It’s replaying on Versus right now, isn’t it?
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by Beer Monster on Oct 11, 2009 1:54 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
This is the kind of fight that I feel like I'd score differently on the rewatch
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by P Brady on Oct 11, 2009 1:54 AM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
Those sub attempts
definitely have a different context when you KNOW Benson’s not tappable.
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by achengy on Oct 11, 2009 10:28 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
But as a judge you wouldn’t be able to adjust your scoring in the first round later on in the fight once you recognize that henderson isn’t fazed by the sub attempts. Your point is dead on, because as a fan, most begin to devalue the sub attempts later in the fight. Judging fights has to be so hard.
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by crinow on Oct 11, 2009 12:04 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
knowing the outcome,
i watched it again … i can see why the judges scored the fight the way they did.
i’d concur with them … great work by Cerrone off his back, but Henderson’s sub defense was sick — and he landed more shots (and harder ones) than Cerrone. Henderson won the first three rounds, Cerrone won the last two. at the same time, i’d have had no problem with a draw.
i’d say it was judged pretty well. and yes, fight of the freakin’ year.
by bobthewriter on Oct 11, 2009 10:28 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
It’s not that serious, really. Both guys did well and I admit I had Ben winning but if the judges saw it for Donald I wouldn’t be too mad. They both did very well IMO
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by lovingmma25 on Oct 11, 2009 1:58 AM EDT via mobile reply actions 0 recs
Jeez, Jordan, you’re generating Fedor levels of comments here.
Keep firing Assholes!
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by Ubernoober on Oct 11, 2009 1:58 AM EDT reply actions 0 recs
They don’t even realize that I’m going to TATTLE ON THEM AND LUKE IS GOING TO MAKE THEM ALL BANNEDEDED.
by Jordan Breen on Oct 11, 2009 1:59 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
I don’t think we have a “No writer bashing” rule, so I’m keeping my beat stick handy until they bust out the firehose.
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by kyfm621 on Oct 11, 2009 2:00 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
We’re allowed to bash any writer we want, unless they’re a mod here.
So… Jordan Breed is a cheese whiz sculpting waffle licker.
Keep firing Assholes!
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by Ubernoober on Oct 11, 2009 2:02 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
JORDAN WENT TO STRIKEFORCE BECUZ HES SCARED OF THE BROCKLESNAR LOL111
by Tonley on Oct 11, 2009 2:01 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Yeah, Cofield said he was a can, on top of that.
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by kyfm621 on Oct 11, 2009 2:03 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Way to flip out by talking about it for a few minutes and saying that the Easton-Beebe fight was a much worse decision. What are you, an analyst? Is somebody paying you to give your opinion or something?
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by Dodectagon on Oct 11, 2009 2:06 AM EDT reply actions 0 recs
On a non-troll tip.
1) It’s amusing people would cast me as being “upset” Cerrone lost for any interest in Cerrone, as I’ve spent the week talking about how Henderson was going to be a hellish style match-up for him and that people would be wise to bet on Henderson at +300.
2) I think people’s sensibilities are being shocked here by the phrase “bullshit”. At year’s end when we do the Sherdog Awards, this won’t even be broached for Robbery of the Year. But, I nonetheless think it’s bullshit when a fighter should’ve cleanly got three rounds loses because his opponent landed a handful of shots on top, nevermind that the actual scoring criterion in the unified rules reads:
“3. If 90% of the round is grounded one fighter on top, then effective grappling is weighed first. Clean striking is weighed next. If clean strikes scored in the round, the Judge shall factor it”
Also, I am Vitor Belfort’s karate trainer, and I paid off the Virginia judges.
by Jordan Breen on Oct 11, 2009 2:06 AM EDT reply actions 0 recs
There you go, much better than that tweet. Now when are you going into that closet to watch boxing? =)
"You guys are jerking eachother off with some pseudo deep bullshit." - Kid Nate
by kyfm621 on Oct 11, 2009 2:10 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
And I think we ALL know what robbery of the year will be. Anything else besides Easton-Bebee would be a bullshit decision.
"You guys are jerking eachother off with some pseudo deep bullshit." - Kid Nate
by kyfm621 on Oct 11, 2009 2:13 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
I might watch Mtagwa-Juanma Lopez again right now. I wasn’t giving it due attention during WEC until I looked over and realized that they were donkey konging each other.
Also, yes. I’ve kept a running tab on candidates for each category all year long, and after Easton-Beebe, I legitimately though about deleting all of them and just writing it in as the preemptive winner before we vote in January.
by Jordan Breen on Oct 11, 2009 2:15 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Hell yeah, WEC really put on a hell of a show. The Fabiano upset was another zinger tonight. And regarding the Easton travesty…I’m lenient when it comes to how decisions go, I understand Judging in MMA has a ways to go before we are done with ignorant judges…but what happened that night was just lunacy. The picture of Easton’s hand being raised is classic. Chase’s face of shock, Big John looking disgusted to have to raise Easton’s hand, and Easton with the biggest smile on his face he could possibly conjure up.
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by kyfm621 on Oct 11, 2009 2:22 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
I think Omigawa-Sandro beats Easton-Beebe for robbery of the year.
by CSKit on Oct 11, 2009 2:27 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
That whole tourney was fucked. Hell, they wouldn’t even let one guy continue because he was Korean. WTF?
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by themachiavellian on Oct 11, 2009 3:24 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
"3. If 90% of the round is grounded one fighter on top, then effective grappling is weighed first. Clean striking is weighed next. If clean strikes scored in the round, the Judge shall factor it"
not all states adopt the same text. and with this text striking on the ground get underweighted when we know that is not the case when a guy is on top.
by szucconi on Oct 11, 2009 2:16 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
These are the unified rules scoring criteria. While obviously not everyone (or, almost no one) actually adheres to them properly, it should be expected that they do. After all, that’s why they were written, codified and accepted.
by Jordan Breen on Oct 11, 2009 2:20 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
I agree. I mean I make laws about driving, like people infront of me should move to one side, but for some reason they never get followed. I write them for a reason.
But very little direction is given to judges on weighting. Even in the unified rules. Weighted first second and third means very little. These guys just wing it some times. Just to f with us.
by szucconi on Oct 11, 2009 2:27 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
I’m with you entirely on this front. But the response to someone driving properly shouldn’t be “HEY ASSHOLE, START DRIVING LIKE THE REST OF US!”
by Jordan Breen on Oct 11, 2009 2:35 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Oh yeah and Jeremy Botter is twittering about Cowboy.
RT @botter: Cerrone says that Henderson won first three rounds and he won last two. Same thing judges said and the same thing I saw.
by szucconi on Oct 11, 2009 2:29 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
The discussion ends here.
Yep, I have Twitter too. Follow me @deowade
by Deo Wade on Oct 11, 2009 9:07 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
people said the same thing when Rampage said he got his ass kicked against Forrest and that that proved that that was a good decision….what a fighter says right after the fight have no effect on “the discussion”…some people try and be classy and/or are pissed at themselves so they say things like “I got dominated”, “I clearly lost”, “I got my ass kicked”, when in reality they could know they won but kept it too close and instead of taking away from the other guys win they take the high road…until a week later when they see the fight again and decide that they clearly won…
by Reaser16 on Oct 11, 2009 9:28 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
A lot of fighters have the mentality that if I didn’t clearly win the fight I deserved to lose the fight and they should. Many of the best athletes have a similar mentality.
I really want to watch this fight now. “fight of the year” according to Breen =’s must see.
by natyong on Oct 11, 2009 9:36 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
There’s too many people like Jordan Breen breaking down fights and shit. He should keep it real and talk more about fighter salaries and Zuffa conspiracy theories. Why should I care about his “analysis” when he hasn’t been clear on where stands on whether Dana White is trying to screw Okami out of a title shot?
If I buy a purple shirt like the one in the picture, will it help me keep my weight down?
by Jahbulon on Oct 11, 2009 2:10 AM EDT reply actions 3 recs
Whut?
Can people try staying on point? This thread has been mostly about trolling and bashing jordan and his hair. Haha.
I’m serious. Thanks. :)
by Anton Tabuena on Oct 11, 2009 2:27 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Can you please photoshop him into a super saiyan? PLEASE!? lol
"You guys are jerking eachother off with some pseudo deep bullshit." - Kid Nate
by kyfm621 on Oct 11, 2009 2:29 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Whut?
If you were a fan of the JBS, you’d know that Jordan uses love of his wardrobe as motivation for not getting fat.
We need more people that actually understand MMA enough to actually breakdown fights. Most MMA pundits don’t have the ability, that’s why they spend all of their time talking about shit like the politics of title shots, fight card payrolls, and over analyzing match making.
by Jahbulon on Oct 11, 2009 2:39 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Look up Mike Coughlin, amazing fight breakdowns and an ego that wouldn’t fit in my state. But not to proud to turn down an opportunity to preform filatio on a statue for the camara.
by szucconi on Oct 11, 2009 2:44 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Yeah I don't listen to the JBS
But he can talk about rainbows and unicorns all day for all I care, cause talking about those stuff doesn’t make anyone less knowledgable in mma..
by Anton Tabuena on Oct 11, 2009 2:47 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
I’m so confused. I write posts that I think indicate how much I like Breen, and you keep responding like I’m trying to bash him. Maybe I need to lay off the bong for a few days.
by Jahbulon on Oct 11, 2009 2:51 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
he missed the sarcasm in the original post….clearly the misunderstanding here…
by Reaser16 on Oct 11, 2009 9:22 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
THERE IS NO WAY
Ben Henderson took the fight to Cerrone. Both fighters gave it their best. Cerrone’s lack of takedown defense killed him. Ben saw what was working and he worked it. The decision was a good one. If you want to watch the sport formerly known as boxing, go ahead. I am sure you will not complain about any of the decisions because you will have fallen asleep before the final bell.
by HoomanCan on Oct 11, 2009 2:28 AM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Honestly I have a hard time getting too upset because this is about the 6’th bullshit high profile fight that i’ve seen this year. It’s embarrasing to see these guys fight their asses off only to be screwed over by incompetent judges who have no idea how to score fights.
Cerrone won round 1, 4, 5 it’s as clear as day but as usual judges decide on a whim what scores and doesn’’t score depending on who’s fighting.
Something has to be done about this, it’s gotten out of hand and it’s hurting the sport i’m starting to reach boxing type levels of disgust when I see bullshit like this happen.
by Raker on Oct 11, 2009 2:34 AM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Three judges in Texas scored the first round for Cerrone as did many other…now if you want to argue that round 5 was a 10-8 round you have my ear…but the first round was close.
"You guys are jerking eachother off with some pseudo deep bullshit." - Kid Nate
by kyfm621 on Oct 11, 2009 2:39 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
First round for henderson*
"You guys are jerking eachother off with some pseudo deep bullshit." - Kid Nate
by kyfm621 on Oct 11, 2009 2:40 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
What was clear is that in the 1st, Cerrone had two FAILED submission attempts, while Henderson SUCCESSFULLY landed numerous face-tenderizing strikes. I was sitting in the 4th row & Cowboy’s face was pretty smashed on the way to his corner.
by Velcro on Oct 11, 2009 3:08 AM EDT via mobile up reply actions 0 recs
Can we all agree to...
Focus on the really important contoversies from this weekend? Like Warmachine getting robbed? Or “hey dude, you OK?”
by gocjeffe on Oct 11, 2009 3:03 AM EDT via mobile reply actions 0 recs
shit...
I went out tonight and missed this event… sounds like I make a mistake… can some one fill me in on tonights events?
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by midwestbred on Oct 11, 2009 3:23 AM EDT reply actions 0 recs
These guys are both great fighters; there’s probably a good chance regardless of how the title fight swings that we might see these guys butt heads again sooner than later. If the WEC can promote it as a compelling rematch there’s no reason to think it won’t happen.
I personally scored it 48-47, I know Leland and others saw it that way as well. 48-46 would have been quite a stretch.
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by Bryan Everson (The Royalty of Roto) on Oct 11, 2009 3:25 AM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Jordan Breen writes two sentences and it gets over 100 comments here at BE.
"Stop smiling you are about to be punched in the face !"
by Warhand on Oct 11, 2009 3:41 AM EDT reply actions 1 recs
Oh a twitter. It was probably a drunk twitter also.
You got to love it!
by natyong on Oct 11, 2009 9:26 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
WEC’s judge have definitely have tendency like Sengoku.
Sengoku’s judge criteria :How that decision coming
My write about Sengoku’s judge criteria.
People have own my for sure but at first,let analysis.
by shiroobi on Oct 11, 2009 5:03 AM EDT reply actions 0 recs
People have own idea for sure but at first,let analysis.
I dunno how edit already post thing at this web.sorry.
by shiroobi on Oct 11, 2009 5:05 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Don’t worry – there’s no edit function on SB Nation.
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by AJB on Oct 11, 2009 5:37 AM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
I had Henderson winning. I think credit should be given for escaping submissions. Where is his article on Velasquez’s decision loss? That was BS IMO.
by swells2048 on Oct 11, 2009 9:23 AM EDT reply actions 0 recs
I guess Compustrike didn’t do stats for this fight. I would really have liked to have seen the total stats for round one. I had Ben winning a close 1st round but could really see it being scored either way. I know he landed far more strikes and even took Cerrone down at least a couple times, I believe. Donald pretty much had the attempted guillotine and Ben got the escape. I thought that Ben did enough good work after that escape to overcome Donald’s work in that round.
by SlickRick00 on Oct 11, 2009 10:19 AM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Cerrone also had the triangle in the first
his submissions were incredibly slick in that first round, but you also have to Credit Henderson for his work escaping the dang things. incredibly close fight. the decision wasn’t bullshit … great work by both guys. i would’ve had no problem with a Henderson win, a Cerrone win or a draw.
by bobthewriter on Oct 11, 2009 10:38 AM EDT reply actions 0 recs
sorry, that should've been a reply
to SlickRick00.
by bobthewriter on Oct 11, 2009 10:39 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
The triangle wasn't fully locked on.
His neck was out of that shit. That is the reason he survived and was even punching Cowboy from there.
by zeroword on Oct 11, 2009 11:36 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Round 1
I am the biggest JBS fan there is, and I have not yet listened to the beatdown after the bell, but I don’t see how you can say that round 1 should clearly be for either fighter. Personally, I think that the Guillotine was close, but I could tell that the triangle was not, so I didn’t give as much credit for that as many other people did. For me it came down to whether the guillotine or the last three minutes were worth more, and I gave it to Henderson. However, I would not have been upset at all if Cerrone had won, as it was a fantastic fight and round one was razor close.
by KyleAskine on Oct 11, 2009 10:42 AM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Ask and ye shall receive
Ladies and gentlemen behold, Super Saiyan Breen!
Walla walla walla I'm an idiot.
by ufc4 on Oct 11, 2009 10:52 AM EDT reply actions 0 recs
dude should grow up and stop looking like a junior high emo
by banter on Oct 11, 2009 12:10 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
dude should take a writing class and finish his fragments
50% more Ultimate than the leading competitor.
by Dodectagon on Oct 11, 2009 5:21 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
In the words of Diego Sanchez
YES!
"You guys are jerking eachother off with some pseudo deep bullshit." - Kid Nate
by kyfm621 on Oct 11, 2009 2:23 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
1-Not fight of the year. Not even fight of October.
2-Close decision, could have easily gone either way. I had it 48-47 for Cerrone, with him winning 1, 4 and 5. There was nothing even close to a 10-8 round in this fight.
3-This was the worst fight I have seen from Cowboy and I have been lucky enough to see most of his fights at Ring of Fire.
I think this exposed Cerrone a lot. He isn’t a great fighter. He is a very entertaining, good fighter, who brings it most of the time. He looked thrown off his game by the take downs, his BJJ was somewhat exposed, in that he has some slick moves, but is generally very loose and he definitely needs to work on his wrestling. I’m not saying this to put him down, but in hopes that he continues to work on his game and get better and better, and not get satisfied in being a fighter that has a lot of holes but usually pleases the fans. I think Henderson was just the worst possible match for him, strong, good wrestler and hard to submit.
by BJJDenver on Oct 11, 2009 1:56 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
He’s definitely skilled and quite a specimen at 155. His cardio and ability to take damage are absolutely ridiculous.
That being said it was a pretty similar fight to what he had with Varner. He’s lazy with his TDD which puts him on the bottom and then he’s happy to sit in guard to try for submissions while eating bombs. Any other LW but BJ Penn (and maybe Guida) would have been finished taking the GnP that Varner and Henderson put on him.
Of course, he comes out in R4 onward and looks very impressive because his opponents are gassed from taking him down and beating him up for 3 rounds and he apparently doesn’t feel pain. He should lobby for 7 round fights.
I love the wars as a fan, but I’m not really a fan of:
- fighters who could be great but take unnecessary damage for no reason – after taking enough big shots, your chin will go eventually
- fighters who are content to be taken down and fight from guard and then lose decisions – not a surprise since bottom position is generally better than top and considered to be by the judges as well
Cerrone also could’ve given up his sub attempts for mount once or twice but didn’t.
He’s an exciting but frustrating guy to watch.
by bigweeze on Oct 11, 2009 2:20 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Jordan Breen should know better.
Seems to me like he wanted Cerrone to win, so he convinced himself that he did. That sucks.
by TDITZ on Oct 11, 2009 2:17 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Eh..
Just rewatched Cerrone/Henderson. Gross needs to be better at breaking down the body of a fight if he wants to be considered reputable, instead of whining about what appears to be one of his favorite fighters taking a deserved loss (Cerrone even solemnly nodded along before the winner was announced). There’s no controversy here. And it’s not a FOTY contender, either (though, it was a good fight).
I STILL poop rainbows.
by Blackout612 on Oct 11, 2009 4:41 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Sorry
Josh Gross
I STILL poop rainbows.
by Blackout612 on Oct 11, 2009 4:42 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Holy shit man
JORDAN BREEN. I need some coffee…
I STILL poop rainbows.
by Blackout612 on Oct 11, 2009 4:42 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Truly epic fight.
Ben won that dec. by his sheer number of takedowns and from all the strikes he landed while in Don’s guard. There were really a lot. Dont get me wrong, Don had a lot of success too with his standing strikes and all of those sub attempts, but he just couldn’t out score all the ones from Ben in the first 3 rounds.
Also, how did Ben not die while in…let me count…1..2..3..99999…hmm…lost count…all of those f-ing submissions???
by iTap on Oct 11, 2009 5:22 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
why act surprised?
alot of people thought that cerrone was robbed, including me. i didn’t realize escaping submissions scored higher to judges than attempting submissions. did something recently change with the rules?
by kamachi on Oct 11, 2009 11:42 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
I don’t think anyone is arguing that Ben won the last round and he did a heck of a lot more in the first than just escape a submission attempt. Cerrone didn’t do all that much in between (which is probably why even he is saying he lost that fight). It was a very close fight.
How do you score a failed sub attempt? Is it worth a point, the same as a takedown,a punch, a minute of ground and pound? A submission attempt that last over a minute and then the guy gets out is still just one failed sub attempt.
by who me on Oct 12, 2009 1:31 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
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