Report: UFC 92 Broke MMA Buyrate Record
by Michael Rome on Jan 8, 2009 5:44 PM EST
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In what can only be considered incredible news if it is true, Dana White said today that UFC 92 crushed the Lesnar-Couture buyrate:
"I don't want to get into numbers too much—that's our policy. But it crushed it. I'll say this: The Christmas show crushed the Lesnar fight by 150,000-175,000 buys."
If this is true, and Lesnar/Couture did 1.01 million buys, this means UFC 92 broke the all-time record set by Tito Ortiz and Chuck Liddell at UFC 66. I am shocked by this, because even though the show had three main events and all three were intriguing, there were no fights on the show that jumped out as major draws besides Rampage-Silva, which was not promoted as the main event.
Perhaps a large amount of fans liked 91 and decided to purchase this as well? Or maybe Mir and Nogueira coming off TUF was something the fans really wanted to see? Either way, if this is true it's a stunning number, and a further reflection of the counter cyclical nature of entertainment spending.
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Rome, I just created a post about this a while ago, it came from ESPN The Magazine. http://sports.espn.go.com/espnmag/story?id=3818684&campaign=rss&source=MagBlogDaily
by The Bronzeville Bully on Jan 8, 2009 5:49 PM EST reply actions
Nah, I aint worried about the credit, I saw on your post it was linked to another blog, I was just pointing out where it came from..
by The Bronzeville Bully on Jan 8, 2009 5:52 PM EST up reply actions
I remember someone tried to do a compairison of the two cards: 91 and 92. Maybe someone can do a post card analysis of predictions and actual, I think is was Fagan?
God...
I forgot I did that. I think I will try to do an “after the fact” thing on that here shortly.
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by Brent Brookhouse on Jan 8, 2009 6:53 PM EST up reply actions
If this is remotely true, I think it bodes very well for the upcoming GSP/BJ card. 2009 is looking to have a ton of momentum for mma.
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You are correct, sir. I’ve been saying since Couture-Lesnar that BJ-GSP II had the potential to outsell it if properly promoted on ESPN and the like. If 92 did it, I also give Lesnar some credit for that because you know a lot of people tuned in just to see who would fight him to unify the belt. Hendo-Franklin may not hit a big number, but it aids in international expansion, distracts from Fedor-AA and is a kick ass card.
Dead is the rumor that only Lesnar contributed to the UFC’s record smashing PPV year. 2009 will make 2008 look tame.
by Derek Suboticki on Jan 9, 2009 10:54 PM EST up reply actions
This got not no ESPN push…that is fucking incredible….
by The Bronzeville Bully on Jan 8, 2009 6:00 PM EST reply actions
Though still essential for a cable spot, I’d imagine. No network will touch MMA (again) until ESPN gives it some endorsement. That’s just my opinion, though.
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by AJB on Jan 8, 2009 6:19 PM EST up reply actions
Yeah. It looks more like the real value in ESPN will be in consistent coverage and analysis to speed up the process of converting casual fans into more serious fans. That won’t happen with a burst of coverage over a weeklong period.
by Michaelthebox on Jan 8, 2009 6:49 PM EST up reply actions
Im very curious to see how they will make a big push on ESPN considering it is Super Bowl week.
by The Bronzeville Bully on Jan 8, 2009 6:03 PM EST reply actions
also interesting that (in the same interview) he says chuck will get either shogun or wanderlei, and the winner of machida/silva wont get a title shot. both things seemed pretty certain already, but i dont think he’d said it publicly yet.
personally, i’d like to see griffin fight the winner of machida/silva as a #1 contender match.
Sounds like promoter fluff to me. There isn’t any solid confirmation even on the UFC 91 number. Yahoo said 1 million + buys. MMAJunkie said 700k-800k. Hopefully a credible source will straighten out the real numbers.
There’s not really solid confirmation on any numbers until fighters are paid and tell people, or until taxes are filed in Nevada. Assuming Lesnar-Couture did only 700k, that would put this show at 850, which is still way beyond expectations. Lying about buyrates in Nevada makes no sense, it becomes public information.
When it came out that 71 really did under 700k buys and not close to the million that was claimed, it was barely even mentioned. I’m sure a lot of people still believe that show really was the million selling blockbuster it was claimed to be.
If 91 and 92 did those low-end numbers, I agree its still great business. But I’m just saying there are no reliable, accurate numbers. And Dana has a track record of overstating the figures.
I thought for 71 he guaranteed it would do 1 Million buys? I don’t remember him claiming it.
by The Bronzeville Bully on Jan 8, 2009 6:20 PM EST up reply actions
This is an oft-repeated thing that isn’t really a true reflection of the facts.
Dana was on ESPN the day after the show, and an anchor asked him how it did, and he said we think it did a million buys. At that time, nobody had the numbers at all. Nobody ever has numbers the day after a show, any promoter claiming to know the next day is full of shit.
He doesn’t really have a track record of lying about PPV numbers at all.
by Michael Rome on Jan 8, 2009 6:21 PM EST up reply actions 3 recs
How long before you know the exact numbers? I mean I remember Meltzer saying around 90 days for the exact estimate. You get approximate number after a couple days right?
by The Bronzeville Bully on Jan 8, 2009 6:25 PM EST up reply actions
Alright, I found the video. I’m not trying to bust balls, I just think this story got wings of its own and became the truth after a while: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nvDAeosvDNw
Sportscenter host: “What are you looking at in terms of expected buys?”
Dana White: “We’re hoping we did right around a million buys last night.”
by Michael Rome on Jan 8, 2009 6:29 PM EST up reply actions 1 recs
following that clip it was reported all over the show did a million, and stayed that way until the real number came out.
Yeah, I know all about how info gets twisted when it hits the blogs. If I can find the article I’m thinking of I’ll post it. There was also some question about Rampage’s points off that PPV, like he was under the impression it did way more buys than he got paid for. Its a bit fuzzy.
I should say that I find scenario A more likely than B:
A: Couture-Lesnar 700k, UFC 92 850k
B: Couture-Lesnar 1.01m, UFC 92 1.15m
Fair enough. Either number for UFC 92 is pretty ridiculous. If its true, it would seem to be a lot like the case of UFC 57 to UFC 58 – the new/occasional PPV buyers just really liked what they saw with 91.
Which is possible, UFC 91 was extremely entertaining. The only knock on it was the lack of big names, but newbies have very little idea who is a big name and who isn’t.
by Michaelthebox on Jan 8, 2009 7:25 PM EST up reply actions
Here’s the difference…
Junkie’s estimate is 100% a guess.
Meltzer actually knows people in the ppv industry so knows what they know which isnt 100% accurate but it’s the best estimate at the time.
Go back through all the years he published numbers and you can see they are pretty accurate.
by mmalogic on Jan 8, 2009 7:21 PM EST up reply actions 1 recs
I need to renew my subscription to the Observer, if anyone has any updates, pass it on forward.
by The Bronzeville Bully on Jan 8, 2009 6:10 PM EST reply actions
I’m probably skeptical.
Did you know we are in high demand, Laura?
by Eugene Schelfaut on Jan 8, 2009 6:11 PM EST reply actions
I said that the surrounding circumstances would make this a big seller
It had alot to do with the fact that the economy is down and people didn’t wanna go out and do something expensive as a family for the post Christmas weekend and thus it was set up perfect for that card to do alot of buys.
Gimme 1 Round!
I believe the big buy rate but doubt it had anything to do with compelling match ups. I had a lot of friends interested in this card who had no clue who was fighting.
1) I think people are accustomed to a big UFC card before New Years and mark it down as an event. (luckily they didn’t under cut the talent)
2) Long Xmas weekend, I knew a lot people looking for any reason to get away from the relatives and the UFC card was an attractive excuse.
I think both those reasons brought causal fans out in droves.
They have made big announcements about PPV buy rates that Meltzer has proven wrong before, so I will wait for Metlzer’s word on it.
Dana said UFC 91 did 1.2 Million Buys!
Meltzer said:
I’ve received two preliminary estimates that put it in the 800,000-850,000 range.
:)
…
Not really.
Dana predicted it would do 1.2 million. Then I said the above. Then Dave had some trending info suggesting better than Ortiz-Shamrock and worse than Chuck-Tito, but no number. Then Dana told him it did 1.01 million, and a number of people have confirmed that number to him. It could still end up being wrong, but Meltzer believes the 1.01 million number.
On December 12th Meltzer said:
Lesnar, a former NCAA wrestling champion who had only one mixed martial arts fight before signing with UFC at the end of 2007, drew an estimate 1,010,000 buys for his heavyweight title win over Randy Couture at UFC 91 on Nov. 15
Lesnar vs. Couture was the second highest buy rate in company history, trailing a 1,050,000 estimate for the 2006 match with Chuck Liddell defending the light heavyweight title against Tito Ortiz. There is the possibility, with late-recorded PPV buys, that it could end up as the record holder.
http://sports.yahoo.com/mma/news?slug=dm-ppvbuys121208&prov=yhoo&type=lgns
White tosses estimates around like he is a fight promoter(go figure) Meltzer actually tries to get sources and predict accurate numbers. I don’t hold Dana being a fight promoter against him, hell I would expect nothing different but it’s obvious that every single thing that White says publically should be viewed through the “he’s a fight promoter” filter.
by who me on Jan 8, 2009 7:15 PM EST up reply actions 1 recs
Whats really ironic is that a lot of the people who express doubts about Dana’s PPV claims, will take Atencio’s >100k number at face value.
by Michaelthebox on Jan 8, 2009 7:24 PM EST up reply actions
A projection before the fight is a big difference than an announcement after the fight… please get your facts straight.
by mmalogic on Jan 8, 2009 7:26 PM EST up reply actions 1 recs
I agree with Rome though:
I should say that I find scenario A more likely than B:
A: Couture-Lesnar 700k, UFC 92 850k
B: Couture-Lesnar 1.01m, UFC 92 1.15m
Yes, I listened to the interview when it was posted. And honestly I’m hoping for the latter, not out of being a “UFC fanboy”, but it would mean the UFC pulled its biggest number without its more powerful “mainstream names” (Lesnar/Couture/Chuck/Tito). The fact that people bought this card because of Wand/Rampage, Mir/Nogueira (ok maybe some mainstream attention here coming off the show) and Griffin/Evans (granted Griffin is a fan favourite, Evans not so much) bodes very well for the UFC and even MMA as a whole I think.
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Thats the Big News?
Reading that entire Dana White interview the PPV Buy Rate is the 4th or 5th biggest topic discussed?
How come Dana didn’t state that it would break the record? If his math is the same as your calculation wouldn’t he just state it was his biggest buy rate ever?
The absence of that comment makes me believe UFC 91 didn’t do a million plus buys.
I agree with this. That said, it was believed that the UFC would break the yearly record for PPV revenue by any company with 600k buys. If this did 950k buys or more, it just provides another data point in favor of the UFC’s growth. Any argument about the “fad” nature of MMA is about dead.
by Michaelthebox on Jan 8, 2009 6:52 PM EST up reply actions
“I’d sign Fedor in a heartbeat, if we could work out his contract situation with Affliction after they go under.”
It sounds like the Affliction-UFC deal is still on the table, Dana is just waiting for Affliction to come back to the table. There was a big discussion the other day and many people concluded UFC would have no interest in a deal, but this speaks to the contrary.
How did you get “we are trying to make a deal with Affliction” from “if we could work out his contract situation with Affliction after they go under”? It sounds more like Dana is waiting till Affliction implodes so he will have even more leverage in negotiations.
Cause Dana still sounded enthusiastic about signing Fedor and acknowledged Affliction management would have to be a 3rd party brought into negotiations to get any fighter’s deal done (at least those with fights still on contract).
Of course he is waiting for more leverage, that was the bet Affliction made when they walked away from the initial talks. Still it wasn’t “letting them blow in the wind” like some people have suggested.
I know a lot people treat these two like mortal enemies who should crush each other given the chance but business sense dictates otherwise. UFC could make a profit off a few of their fighters and bringing Affliction back does provide another sponsor in a time where advertising revenue is tight. I still maintain bringing Fedor in under the disguise of Affliction’s contract stipulations provides a one time excuse for ignoring their own policies and not openly the flood gates to the same stipulations to their other fighters.
You’re reading it wrong. He’s not saying Affliction would have to be a 3rd party. He’s simply saying they’d have to sort out the contract issues; if that means Affliction files bankruptcy and releases all their fighter contracts, that would work just as well.
by Michaelthebox on Jan 8, 2009 7:34 PM EST up reply actions
Specifically, you’re reading it as work out with Affliction, Fedor’s contract situation. What it really says is work out the situation of the contract Fedor has with Affliction. All that means is that Fedor has to be free of the contract for the UFC to negotiate with him.
by Michaelthebox on Jan 8, 2009 7:36 PM EST up reply actions
I’m not seeing how I am so far off base here? Isn’t that how you work through contract issues by approaching the party that has the stipulation?
True, you could wait for bankruptcy proceedings to complete or the contract date to expire but the opportunity could be lost in the meantime. Contracts are as much about timing and circumstances as they are money. EliteXC is cited as an example, but I don’t believe Dana sees $$$ acquiring Jake Shields or Robbie Lawyer . . . nice to have but not interested enough to buy from the pond shop.
Not necessarily. You’re just reading a lot more into it than is there. All he’s saying is that as long as Affliction and Fedor have a contract, nothing can be done. It doesn’t necessarily mean he’s going to buy out the contract or buy out Affliction; work out could mean initiate legal proceedings to get him free.
And what opportunity? Fedor is not a draw, and they have zilch use for him while Lesnar/Mir are busy with each other and with the winner of a Couture/Nogueira fight. They can wait until the sun comes up if they have to. They don’t need Fedor.
by Michaelthebox on Jan 8, 2009 8:22 PM EST up reply actions
Or wait forever. Have no idea why my brain turned “wait until the sun comes up” into “wait forever”. This winter has been too long.
by Michaelthebox on Jan 8, 2009 8:24 PM EST up reply actions
Now you selling UFC short? You don’t think they could sell Fedor to be a big draw? Sometimes you gotta blame the salesman and not the product. Yes, you named one fight in Mir/Lesnar. What is UFC going to do to draw viewers the rest of the summer when PPV numbers drop back down 400-500k because people’s lives have picked up and need to be compelled more to tune in? Having another big potential draw could boast a PPV from 400k to 700k. They don’t need anyone on their roster, but’s its business if the opportunity is there to make more money than you do it.
Ok, don’t start this. The UFC isn’t magic, its hard work developing a draw and a lot of it depends on the factors the fighter has going for him. Fedor is NOT a draw now, and I do not believe he would ever be a draw on the level of Chuck or Lesnar or Couture. They can build him up to be a draw, but they can’t do it as soon as this summer. I doubt they could do it in less of a time than a couple years minimum.
by Michaelthebox on Jan 8, 2009 8:38 PM EST up reply actions
To give you an idea, Anderson Silva has been one of the most dominant champions in UFC history for the past couple years, and his PPVs still hover around 300k. Now some of that can be attributed to the lack of drawing opponents, but Fedor’s drawing opponents would be the big four in the UFC HW division, and they’re all fine with matches until next fall.
by Michaelthebox on Jan 8, 2009 8:42 PM EST up reply actions
I'll address the elephant.
If A. Silva spoke fluent English, his buyrate would be MUCH higher than it is now. His personality, at least as seen through the translations, is similar to Couture’s.
Someone needs to beat that into his head. “Take six good months of English and you’ll double your income.” It’s not a tough sell.
This isn’t a racist comment, it’s simple fact. The majority of the PPV audience for the UFC is English speaking, and many of them/us are turned off by our inability to connect to the fighter and his thoughts directly.
There is no such thing as innocence, only degrees of guilt.
I agree with this, and its true. Of course, that doesn’t bode well for Fedor either, since he doesn’t speak English either. Not to mention he doesn’t have half Anderson’s charisma.
by Michaelthebox on Jan 8, 2009 9:09 PM EST up reply actions
I disagree with this premise entirely.
Rampage is a hugely popular fighter. Kevin Randleman was a popular guy. Cheick Kongo is a draw, and that guy’s English is about as bad as anyone who actually tries to speak it in the octagon.
Color is of course involved, but not to the degree that it will hinder a fighter who has done everything else correctly from becoming a highly popular/marketable fighter. A. Silva gives the fans the aloof foreigner treatment. That is what fans dislike, not his skin color. I think his skin’s awesome.
There is no such thing as innocence, only degrees of guilt.
You forgot the real elephant…
IF HE WAS WHITE…
sorry to say.
Can he sell as well as couture, lidell, etc?… sure but it will take Micheal Jordan esqe performances to do that.
Fortunately he has that ability.
I think it’s both..but Wand got over bigtime without being white. I think it’s a combination of a lot of things, but his ability to speak English is a huge deal.
Yup.
I admit, I don’t want to believe that color is a significant issue. But even if it is a real issue and it plays to Fedor’s benefit, he still doesn’t speak english, doesn’t really look like the right stereotype for a Russian fighter, and isn’t particularly charismatic. His fame is tied almost entirely to his reputation of invincibility, and that reputation works for hardcore fans who’ve seen his fights. It won’t work nearly as well for casual fans who have not and will not see his earlier fights.
by Michaelthebox on Jan 8, 2009 9:26 PM EST up reply actions
Mike you were at the event live.
Wand’s popularity at a live vegas show is different than his popularity in the generic ppv audience.
Most of the people there live understand the guys history… that plays alot into it.
Yeah and as you said he does speak english.
True this. No idea what Wandy’s true popularity level is, but clearly theres a major difference between the audience at vegas shows, and the live PPV audience.
by Michaelthebox on Jan 8, 2009 9:31 PM EST up reply actions
Can Fedor draw 700k? Can Fedor draw 400k? He’s completly unproven but we have seen that Brock Lesnar can close in on 700k with Heath Herring. Check Kongo is currently shown to be a bigger draw than Fedor. Dana wants Fedor because of who Fedor is not because he is hurting for some kind of Summer PPV draw.
There is no rush here, hell the most likely opponent, Randy Couture, is off making a movie for the forseeable future. If Dana is thinking like most people that Affliction Entertainment will be very lucky to see February then there is no reason at all to sit down and discuss Fedor with Affliction because Affliction won’t be an issue by the time Randy is done in Hollywood.
The UFC’s interest in Fedor actually shows their commitment to the sport. If I were running the UFC, and my ONLY concern was making money, I might avoid ever signing Fedor. In my eyes, he’s more of a money-making risk than asset.
by Michaelthebox on Jan 8, 2009 8:47 PM EST up reply actions
Fedor is going to cost millions per fight and may never draw more than Anderson Silva does in the US not to mention there is no guarantee that he won’t pull a Cro Cop once he gets into the UFC. Fedor is a pure sports decision not a business decision. He’s also something that can be put on the back burner till Randy Couture comes back too.
Everyone can “pull a Cro-Cop”. The idea that someone can lose fights is no excuse. The other reason has nothing to do with sport.
The reason to sign Fedor is a pure sports reason(I honestly figured everyone knew what the sport reasoning to sign Fedor is so I didn’t talk about that), what I was describing was the business reasoning, pulling a Cro Cop reffered to failing utterly to live up to expectations not losing a fight here or there, that is a real business issue when paying a fighter millions of dollars.
I wasn’t giving excuses I was pointing out that the financial risk/reward situation with signing him is very sketchy even if the pure sports reasoning makes sense.
It’s contract situation not contract stipulations, He can’t sign Fedor while he is under the Affliction contract. If he did any “negotiations” with Affliction after they went under(negotiations probably would mean lawsuit in this case) it would be just to get them to release Fedor so he could sign him not to work out any contract stipulations that Affliction had with him.
Forrest vs. Rashad was a huge sell
The BW3 I went to in Michigan was completely packed and there was a line to get in, mostly because of fans for Griffin, but also some Rashad (U of Michigan alum) fans too. This fight was a strong sell and the sheer magnitude of three events was enough to push a lot of fence-sitters into buying, I suspect.
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"And many men have eaten it." -- Goldy
He went to Michigan St.
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HOLY SHNIKES!
Congrats to UFC!
I expected a good buyrate but MAN! Make sense though…
Rampage VS Wandy III *Rampage AND Wandy have huge followings
TUF Coaches Mir VS Nog TV, Spike, Self explanatoryRashad VS Griffin Forrest griffin and the guy who KO’d Chuck cold
All I can say is I hope this eventually becomes the standard. 1 Million PPV buys every time and theres NO WAY mainstream media and NY/Boston can deny MMA! UFC FTMFW!!!!
IF UFC 92 beat UFC 66 in PPV # then people were shafted because UFC 92 was about 1/10th the event UFC 66 was. This is more UFC and Zuffa bullshit because UFC 92 wasn’t even that great of an event!
Wait, what?
Are you serious? 92 was outstanding. It was about my third favourite show of the year.
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by AJB on Jan 8, 2009 8:34 PM EST up reply actions
This site apparently questions certain people! Because guys like subo who are obvious fan boys who are around to do nothing but slurp Dana White and Lorenzo Fertittia get away with non-sense all the time! IF someone else has a DIFFERENT opinion then they’re haters! I’ve never seen an objective person on this site tell this “subo” or mmalogic that they’re haters when they so obviously are. This site is about as healthy a debate with the Zuffa boardroom would be. BloodyElbow sucks! And thank god this is the last post I have to make. Luke and Brent can continue to come out with there closet feelings for Zuffa and Kid Nate can now explain why he thinks Dave Herman is a light heavyweight and argue with people who tell him he’s wrong and he can tell them you’re crazy with no further shame! When he should be! Farewell Zuffa NUTHUGGERS!
You’ll be missed… by the trash flung at your exiting backside.
by Derek Suboticki on Jan 9, 2009 10:58 PM EST up reply actions
Did Zuffa run over your dog? As an MMA fan, I can’t imagine why Zuffa should be so hated. They are the top organization in the world.
Little known fact: Dana White has personally run over over 30,000 dogs in the last five years alone. Usually he leaves a note that says “Fucking dog should known better than to mess with the motherfucking UFC!”
by Michaelthebox on Jan 8, 2009 9:33 PM EST up reply actions
He runs them over in his high-end golf cart.
Did you know we are in high demand, Laura?
by Eugene Schelfaut on Jan 8, 2009 10:01 PM EST up reply actions
With his son in the passenger seat.
Did you know we are in high demand, Laura?
by Eugene Schelfaut on Jan 9, 2009 8:05 AM EST up reply actions
I’m ok with that. It’s not true, but reality doesn’t necessarily seem to be your greatest concern.
Though you’d be right that I did really enjoy UFC 92. As did pretty much every other reasonable MMA fan.
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I don’t care if it was your favorite event of all time the event was build as the best of 2008 and was no where near it. It was a huge let down. Name one part that was an everlasting moment of 2008.
You can’t!
by tylerdurden1 on Jan 8, 2009 8:41 PM EST up reply actions 1 recs
How? You name one fight in that event that was a moment you’ll remember till the end of next year? You can’t!
by tylerdurden1 on Jan 8, 2009 8:45 PM EST up reply actions 1 recs
Sure I can. I just don’t feel the need to do so. You’re so obviously in the wrong about this, that screaming at the top of your lungs about it only tells everybody here not to listen to you.
by Michaelthebox on Jan 8, 2009 8:46 PM EST up reply actions
Yes, I follow MMA
Some wonder what the fuck I’ve been doing here all this time..
by Blackout612 on Jan 8, 2009 9:29 PM EST up reply actions 2 recs
Wanderlei getting KTFO.
The first time Nog was ever stopped
I’m sure everyone will have forgotten those things by the end of the month.
They should because Wanderlei getting KO is nothing new CroCop killed his aura forever in 2006 and Nogueira’s decline is old news and obvious! But the love of Mir is new and without merit! The guy is about a legitimate A top 10 heavyweight as butterbean! Mir loses to Fedor, Barnett, Arlovski, Overeem, Aleks Emelianenko and CroCop so how do people justify his top 5 ranking! You can’t more UFC fanboy’s thinking that they’re part of the company and also Dana White’s friend. Fucking living in never never land they’re! GoodBye forever BloodyElbow.com! The site that likes to think that it’s a cut above because they don’t allow name calling! Well guess what it doesn’t matter your site is infested with UFC nuthuggers! And you don’t care. So I’m DONE HERE FOREVER!
by tylerdurden1 on Jan 8, 2009 9:25 PM EST up reply actions 1 recs
Sorry cant hear your clap.
Got them fucking high end headphones Dana fucking recommended after trying them in a fucking secret meeting with fucking PETA when they threatened a fucking lawsuit on him over running over 30,000 fucking dogs.
The headphones are made from puppy ears. : )
"billed" as the best ...
"It's like a flying knuckle sandwich." --Rogan
"And many men have eaten it." -- Goldy
Why was this post even done when the numbers for this event as far as PPV will take months to get right?
It’s not that they’ll really take months to get right, it’s that it will take months for enough sources to corroborate the “final” number since the UFC doesn’t release PPV numbers on a regular basis.
Sure, Dana will say something like this from time to time, but then at the same time he may well be out and out lying as he did when he went on ESPN and said Rampage v. Liddell did 1 million buys.
"BJ on the BE" - Kierkegaard
PPV # take a long time to get straight! To come out with this a couple weeks after the event is nonsense!
Not domestically. Foreign UFC buys aren’t typically a big enough difference maker to change an early (legitimate) number significantly.
"BJ on the BE" - Kierkegaard
people I know who don’t follow UFC (typical Canadian hockey-only fans) bought 92 (they were impressed with 91 and wanted to see if it wasn’t just a lucky buy with 91).
anecdotal but a few of my non-mma fans turned out this way for 92.
My casual MMA fan buddy came over to watch this show, which he does maybe two or three times per year. Of course, that doesn’t add to the buy rate, and I buy every show anyhow, so I guess it doesn’t say much in my case.
"BJ on the BE" - Kierkegaard
What crawled up in your ass and died? Seriously it sounds like you are mad that the event was a huge hit with fans and that is really silly.
The event sucked! If you think it was a hit watch Pride final conflict 2005 or Bushido 9! Those were huge events not this overhyped bullshit!
PRIDE is dead, dude. Move on. If the UFC product is so offensive to you, then just stop watching it.
"BJ on the BE" - Kierkegaard
Rampage V. Wandy was the main on 2 Pride events and it was the third on this card. Overhyped bullshit?
Well, maybe, but it was a great card. Rampage V. Wandy could have carried an event, but it didn’t have to. Its like if in the ad for the snuggie, they threw in the shamwow and the slap, chop.
No more boring life!
I’m strangely compelled to buy the shamwow and the slap-chop.
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UFC 92: You’ll be saying wow every time.
by Derek Suboticki on Jan 10, 2009 12:22 AM EST up reply actions
I get it now!
Both of your Pride heroes lost! You can’t grasp the reality that Mir destroy a legend in Nogueira when even the great Fedor couldn’t in three tries. The space time continuum has ruptured. Do like I do in order to cope: embrace the winners.
To steal something from my homies at DRB
Trolling in a troll thread.
Brad Ziegler had a scoreless inning streak. Brad Ziegler had not met BJ Upton.
Dude...
Maybe tyler is doing this on purpose because he just likes drama……. I have a friend who plays online games and starts shit with other people jsut for fun because he thinks it’s hilarious. He’s a really cool normal guy in real life but he’s a total asshole online just for kicks.
tyler – is you’re for real…then there’s no need to get so worked up about anything. Maybe don’t use so many exclamation marks?
I thoroughly enjoyed UFC 92…all the top three fights delivered particularly the Griffin-Evans fight.
Picking internet fights is dumb. The reason people troll is because there are no concequences to their actions on “teh intranets”. That tyler guy is just saying ridiculous for attention. If you’re going to spend your time on internet forums talking to complete strangers, be civil. The last thing we need is a great site like Bloody Elbow to be overrun with trolls.
What the crap?
The comments here were TOTALLY normal, then I made a post saying I liked UFC 92 and went and had dinner.
I come back to this. What the hell.
I have to say, this was really fun to read.
"I'm AJB and I endorse this nut-puncher."
For sure.
This one got out of hand in a hurry. Funny how that happens on teh intrawebz.
There is no such thing as innocence, only degrees of guilt.
It did turn out pretty awesome in a hurry.
by Rundownloser on Jan 9, 2009 12:31 AM EST up reply actions
I'm sick of the lack of Lesnar respect.
People think he just came out of the WWE and just exploded, but that’s not the case at all.
In MN, he was the ONLY college wrestler to get coverage ever, and that was because of his size. He became a legend here, as he hit the 10PM news all the time, he was famous in MN and hit he local media with the sports talk radio and news all the time.
When he hit the WWE farm system, we all knew too because he was a darling in the media and they followed up on him. Even better, when he played all 4 pre-season games with the Minnesota Vikings, the coaches were saying that he has more raw skill than anybody they ever saw, but it would take 2-4 years to teach him how to play the game, so they had to cut him. They said he’s not human with his size/agility and he’s beyond a high level. If he did the NFL combine he would be a workout warrior and would have been drafted in the top 15 picks no problem just based off of his stats because he’s unnatural.
UFC Champ is not new to Brock in MN. He was special many many years ago in the media and it was for a reason.
PERFECT PPV STORM
TUF did really well this season, Rampage’s first fight back since getting busted crushing cars in the Rampagemobile, after Christmas (meaning people got the PPV as a gift), and two TUF guys (who the mainstream knows more then Wandy & Rampage together) headlined.
Overall it’s just proof the blog world has no idea of what it speaks half the time. Some questioned if UFC would beat the record of PPV sales in a year over WWE. It didn’t have that much to go and they questioned it? No idea why. This card was a clear “let’s print some money” show.
You know..
I was thinking about whether or not people gave the PPV as a gift. How the shit do you do that? Cable companies would be smart to sell cards that operate as vouchers for such events, but to my knowledge they don’t.
DAMNN i was curious why this post had 150+ comments.. I didnt expect to see tyl…whatever… to have an epic, i-hate-bloodyelbow-meltdown haha.. So now ive seen 2 i-hate-BE-die-die-die rants.. This one and the user who posted those two guys with dumb youtube videos, claiming that it wasn’t him.. hahaha.
are there more that i didnt get to see? wanna make a betting game on who does that next? hahaha. :)
(i dont want to say his name cause associating his posts with fight club would just ruin the image of that great movie. haha.)
http://weoweoweo.deviantart.com/
Let me just say
I’m proud to be the target of such scorn. Some people… if they like you, you’re doing something wrong.
by Derek Suboticki on Jan 9, 2009 11:00 PM EST reply actions
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