Quote of the Day: Mark Coleman Talks Mauricio "Shogun" Rua

by Nate Wilcox on Jan 7, 2009 10:14 AM EST in MMA Events

Adam Wagner (MMAmania.com): This fight is a rematch from PRIDE 31, where you obviously got the TKO victory, and Rua got the elbow injury. Does that make this fight mean anything more to you, the fact that there’s a history there, some unfinished business?

Mark Coleman: No, I think because we’ve already fought once, and “Shogun” has decided to make the fight personal, and everything involved in the whole situation definitely makes it a little more important to me. It’s not personal to me … Well, because he’s made it personal, I’ve had to make it personal. But really, he’s just another opponent - a very good one at that. But I just need to win this fight to keep my career going.

Mark Coleman talking to MMA Mania about his upcoming rematch with Shogun at UFC 93. Here's a YouTube of their first match and its aftermath. MMA infamy all the way.

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If you haven't seen "The Smashing Machine"...

Check it out. It’s about Mark Kerr, but you get to learn a lot about Coleman as well. You can see how much even top fighters struggled financially just a few years ago. He’s talking about keeping his career moving, but I think he really means “getting one more pay check”.

There's a WAMMA belt in my Cracker Jacks!

by Drewplata on Jan 7, 2009 10:23 AM EST reply actions

I’m sorry, but did I miss Coleman being an addict?

by Derek Suboticki on Jan 8, 2009 12:49 AM EST up reply actions

I still have my doubts that Coleman will:

a) make the 206 lbs. limit and
b) make it into the cage

by Sam Cupitt on Jan 7, 2009 10:39 AM EST reply actions

Based on past precedent, Coleman could weigh in at 209 and still be allowed to fight.

by Hardcharger on Jan 7, 2009 12:10 PM EST up reply actions

I heard an Interview with Coleman on Tagg Radio yesterday and he said he’s about 220 now and making weight wasn’t going to be an issue, but I still wonder if Coleman is going to get injured leading up to the fight sort of like Ken Shamrock did for the Kimbo fight.

by tylerdurden1 on Jan 7, 2009 1:05 PM EST up reply actions

When was his last fight?

I think he did not book fights one unto another like what Ken did before.. Yes, he is old, but he is probably well rested and I think he’ll be pretty healed up.. I’m hoping he won’t be going in there like zombie Nog..

by Johann on Jan 7, 2009 1:37 PM EST up reply actions

mini Coleman looks like Frank Trigg

but the rematch aspect from that infamous Pride outcome makes it slightly more interesting to see an old man get pummeled into submission.

"It's like a flying knuckle sandwich." --Rogan
"And many men have eaten it." -- Goldy

by thetakeover on Jan 7, 2009 10:43 AM EST reply actions

I agree with the outcome

you predict, but one thing is for sure-Coleman is one tough mother fucker! His pace & fierceness always made for good fights.

by dnevil001 on Jan 7, 2009 10:49 AM EST up reply actions

HAHA

Nice call

There's a WAMMA belt in my Cracker Jacks!

by Drewplata on Jan 7, 2009 10:50 AM EST up reply actions

Dude is way too old to hang with a guy like Shogun after a few years off.

by lbk on Jan 7, 2009 11:02 AM EST reply actions

He's got a nice tan though.

Perhaps he could get a guest spot on that Tanning Salon show on E!

by Razreshat on Jan 7, 2009 11:17 AM EST reply actions

Coleman is going to get the Ken Shamrock treatment.

Either he gets hurt training before the fight

He gets destroyed in the first round, and that’s that

by "Mr. NC-17" on Jan 7, 2009 11:46 AM EST reply actions

I can;t imagine this event will do any kind of solid PPV numbers. Card is very weak.

by lbk on Jan 7, 2009 11:51 AM EST reply actions

not all bad

Hendo vs. Franklin and Lytle vs. Irish Hand Grenade should be good.

"It's like a flying knuckle sandwich." --Rogan
"And many men have eaten it." -- Goldy

by thetakeover on Jan 7, 2009 12:08 PM EST up reply actions

meh?

by lbk on Jan 7, 2009 12:13 PM EST up reply actions

Also, it’s a European event, which means 250k buys would be on the good side.

Or, you know, about three times the number of buys Affliction: Day of Reckoning will do.

"BJ on the BE" - Kierkegaard

by Brett Jones on Jan 7, 2009 12:56 PM EST up reply actions

The Afflcition card looks much more appealing though and yes, one would assume a startup promotion to do less PPV buys than an established company even if that event blows.

by lbk on Jan 7, 2009 1:02 PM EST up reply actions

UFC 1 did more buys than Affliction: Banned.

That did not occur to me until the other day, but that’s both hilarious and disappointing.

"BJ on the BE" - Kierkegaard

by Brett Jones on Jan 7, 2009 1:08 PM EST up reply actions 2 recs

But UFC 1 had Shamrock!!

by lbk on Jan 7, 2009 1:26 PM EST up reply actions

How meny buys did UFC 1 do? The reach of cable was much smaller then.

by szucconi on Jan 7, 2009 1:37 PM EST up reply actions

And to think that the fighters or even the UFC was largely an unknown entity back then..

lbk – I’m guessing they had pre-WWE Shamrock..

by Johann on Jan 7, 2009 1:44 PM EST up reply actions

Research done myself
86,000 buys for UFC 1, I am impressed by that.

by szucconi on Jan 7, 2009 1:50 PM EST up reply actions

Thats..

embarassing for Affliction..

by Johann on Jan 7, 2009 2:03 PM EST up reply actions

Yeah. I would say to be a sucess that they would have to beat UFC 2’s buyrate since it’s there second show. So I looked that up and that is 300K. They have no chance at that

by szucconi on Jan 7, 2009 2:16 PM EST up reply actions

I was thinking of the same thing. That they’ll get their pass for their first show and try to follow the UFC trending of PPV buys as a template for their passing rate (as a measure of success). But that’s too steep. There’s no way in hell that they’ll get that much.

But then, these are both at different time periods. UFC 1 was the only show at that time and Banned had to compete with the UFC juggernaut.

I wonder how much reliable is the comparison between the two?

by Johann on Jan 7, 2009 2:33 PM EST up reply actions

Yeah, one was creating an industry, the other trying to siphon off of it.

by Derek Suboticki on Jan 8, 2009 12:50 AM EST up reply actions

If that were true.. I’d have the same ambivalent feelings..

by Johann on Jan 7, 2009 1:40 PM EST up reply actions

Rec’d.

by Derek Suboticki on Jan 8, 2009 12:50 AM EST up reply actions

Fake N' Back or Tanning Pills?

whats up

by dundix on Jan 7, 2009 12:36 PM EST reply actions

FAKE AND BAKE

by dundix on Jan 7, 2009 12:37 PM EST up reply actions

Tanning pills?

"BJ on the BE" - Kierkegaard

by Brett Jones on Jan 7, 2009 12:58 PM EST up reply actions

I don’t know what they are, but I want some. Do they give you that punch drunk speech slurring also?

by szucconi on Jan 7, 2009 1:36 PM EST up reply actions

This has been bothering me for quite some time now

he looks like an aborted fetus.

by Gong on Jan 7, 2009 1:41 PM EST up reply actions

More like this guy...

by Johann on Jan 7, 2009 1:48 PM EST up reply actions

I’m not sure you know what an aborted fetus looks like if you think a 220lbs. ripped up dude looks like one.

"BJ on the BE" - Kierkegaard

by Brett Jones on Jan 7, 2009 3:06 PM EST up reply actions

Skin. I believe this thread was talking about his skin tone.

by Gong on Jan 7, 2009 8:52 PM EST up reply actions

Can’t wait for Shogun to destroy Coleman.

by pud333 on Jan 7, 2009 2:57 PM EST reply actions

Of course its f**king personal

He pushed the ref aside when he called the match due to the broken arm, stomped Wandy’s face when he was on the ground and acted like a hulked-up steroid superhero celebrating his “win”. If I was Shogun I’d want to smash him as well.

by brad23 on Jan 7, 2009 4:21 PM EST reply actions

Schick! Priceless…

by ununkvadrium on Jan 7, 2009 6:37 PM EST reply actions

I think Coleman is a reasonable underdog pick here. Lets face it, Shogun isn’t the same fighter in the UFC octagon as he was in the Pride ring…no huge stomps, no soccer kicks. The cage favors Coleman’s wrestling and ground and pound, and you have to wonder how good Shogun’s takedown defense will be coming off of a serious knee injury. If Coleman makes weight, it’s gonna be competitive.

by ericmunley on Jan 8, 2009 9:15 AM EST reply actions