"Steroids in the sport, we go one step beyond in the Wolfslair. Pre-fight, our guys, we in-house...

"Steroids in the sport, we go one step beyond in the Wolfslair. Pre-fight, our guys, we in-house test. Not for the fact that we think they're using or whatever, just for our own reputation with the UFC. We never want to get tarred with that brush. So we do a lot of in-house testing on ourselves. Out there people do it. You do it you're going to get caught. The Nevada State Commission is very good at this now."

(side-quote) "Chris Leben, whether he was on steroids or whether he wasn't on steroids, he got his ass kicked."

- Anthony McGann, Academy boss of Wolfslair MMA.

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What exactly is the point?

I don’t think I understand what they think they are accomplishing.

by Razreshat on Jan 5, 2009 12:07 PM EST reply actions

They want to make sure no one who comes from their camp ever tests positive for steroids. They want to keep their name, and reputation, clean. I think it’s a good thing.

by mythbuster on Jan 5, 2009 12:12 PM EST up reply actions

Or

If this becomes standard, I bet we see more “injuries” right before fights.

Frankly, if they really need to test their fighters, I wonder how much training those guys are really doing in their gym. You would think they would be intimately aware of what their fighters are doing, considering how close the relationship assumedly gets leading up to a fight.

I can see that they want to protect their name and respect that, I just don’t see how this actually accomplishes it. Athletic commissions are still going to test and I would think the assumption before this was that they knew whether or not their fighters were doping. This just seems like their is a lack of trust issue, or that they foresee someone questioning their fighters for some reason.

by Razreshat on Jan 5, 2009 12:28 PM EST up reply actions

This is more

of a camp wanting to protect the integrity of their name. Sure, you would think they would know if their fighters are juicing but ultimately there is no way to guarantee that.

by dnevil001 on Jan 5, 2009 12:33 PM EST up reply actions

I think that is a very good thing

for the sport of MMA. If camps start doing this & actually reporting if infractions occur, this is very good. It is nice to see a big camp doing this as it validates their ethics & fighters.

BTW, it is even funnier that Leben tested positive & got the shit kicked out of him.

by dnevil001 on Jan 5, 2009 12:14 PM EST reply actions

So, what happens if one of their fighters tests positive? Will the camp tell the UFC that the fighter is injured and cannot compete as previously contracted? I suggest that possibility, because I somehow doubt that Wolfslair will, for example, call Joe Silva and say “Bisping’s tested positive for Stanozolol, please pull him from the match and notify the NSAC.”

"BJ on the BE" - Kierkegaard

by Brett Jones on Jan 5, 2009 12:48 PM EST reply actions 1 recs

I wonder what the point of

testing would be if this was not their intention.

by dnevil001 on Jan 5, 2009 12:54 PM EST up reply actions

Thats what I was talking about.

It seem like some sort of publicity stunt or perhaps a preemtive strike against something they know is coming.

Just seems like a weird and unnecesary step.

by Razreshat on Jan 5, 2009 1:30 PM EST up reply actions

Only unnecessary if they do not act on their findings.

by dnevil001 on Jan 5, 2009 1:53 PM EST up reply actions

It is my understanding that the tests are relatively expensive on a per unit basis.

Playing the other side of the equation, this would be a good way to figure out how close you can cycle before a fight. Whatever.

by Heenan on Jan 5, 2009 1:56 PM EST reply actions

CYA

With all the problems with the California commission why not have a “B” test to bring as a defense. A little redundancy never hurt anyone.

Being on the internet gives me a right...nay a responsibility to bitch about things

by beery_pbr on Jan 5, 2009 2:16 PM EST reply actions

Good point

However, a test by your own camp will not bring alot of validity with it.

by Razreshat on Jan 5, 2009 2:40 PM EST up reply actions

As is yours

but I do not believe that Anthony Mcgann is in the back mixing test tubes, I am sure wherever they are testing that company will be “licensed” so to speak

Being on the internet gives me a right...nay a responsibility to bitch about things

by beery_pbr on Jan 5, 2009 2:48 PM EST up reply actions

Also,

I think there would be a lack of usability if the “B” test isn’t from the same sample as the “A” sample.

Therefore, in legal terms, I question how much use their is in getting a test done prior to fighting.

by Razreshat on Jan 5, 2009 3:00 PM EST up reply actions

spin spin spin

there’s another logical reason for this….

i’d tell you but the ‘speculation police’ are getting pretty strict around here.

by Headkick on Jan 5, 2009 5:12 PM EST reply actions

Do you have reason to believe one of their guys was popped at 92 or are you just guessing?

by Michael Rome on Jan 5, 2009 5:59 PM EST up reply actions

For some reason I don’t believe that they test their own fighters. From my experience knowing a lot of football players in high school and knowing a lot of guys in the military if you take steroids you never really do it alone. If you do it it’s with a team mate or someone higher up overseeing the injections or what have you.

Saying we test our own team mates seems like a lie to me. At best it’s a cover up to make the managers look good. If there are guys taking steroids I’m guessing that the management knows about it. If a guy gets caught after a fight with steroids then the managers can say something like ‘oh well we tested and they were clean, so they must have been hiding it very well from us’

But then again this is because I’ve known people who have done it and rarely is the case where the coach or guy in charge is not aware of it. I could be jaded to the whole situation though.

by Discman2 on Jan 5, 2009 8:07 PM EST reply actions