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Gambling Spotlight: Betting on UFC 94

UFC 94 is officially on our doorstep.  The long awaited rematch between welterweight champ Georges St. Pierre and lightweight champ B.J. Penn headlines a card also featuring Lyoto Machida, Thiago Silva, Nate Diaz, and Clay Guida.

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Georges St. Pierre

#1 Welterweight
UFC WW Champ

vs.

B.J. Penn

#1 Lightweight
UFC LW Champ

-175 (5D / BOOK) Best Line +155 (5D)
27 Age 30
5'10" Height 5'9"
17 - 2 - 0 Record 13 - 4 - 1
7 / 5 TKO / SUB 5 / 5
Jackson's Submission Fighting Fight Camp B.J. Penn's MMA
W - Fitch (UD)
W - Serra (TKO)
W - Hughes (SUB)
Last 3 Fights W - Sherk (TKO)
W - Stevenson (SUB)
W - Pulver (SUB)

B.J. Penn is being undervalued by the MMA community.  To listen to commentators talk about the bout, you'd expect Georges St. Pierre to be in the neighborhood of a -500 favorite.  Georges has apparently made huge strides in the three years since an undermotivated Penn narrowly lost to him in 2006.  And Penn has bad cardio.  

I think both of those axioms are overstated.  Penn certainly lacked elite cardio when he lost to St. Pierre in 2006.  He slowed down in the fight.  But he never gassed out like Shogun Rua in the UFC.  Penn remained competitive in the last half of their first fight.  He has also gone five rounds twice before in his career.  From a Rami Genaur Yahoo article leading up to Sherk/Penn:

In fact, in his fight against Uno, Penn actually got stronger in the later rounds, fighting with greater effectiveness in rounds four and five than he did in rounds two and three.

Considering the magnitude of this fight, there's no reason to think Penn won't come in the best shape of his career (barring unknown injuries of course).  St. Pierre's cardio will continue to be a strength for him, but I don't feel the need to fall in line with the "Penn wins rounds one and two, St. Pierre takes the rest of the fight" camp (which was heavily prevalent in the Sherk fight, and look how that turned out).

In fact, a five round fight theoretically favors an in-shape Penn.  Penn is more likely to finish St. Pierre than vice versa.  Two more rounds becomes ten more minutes for Penn to land a heavy strike or lock on a submission.

St. Pierre, meanwhile, will likely have to grind out a decision.  He's certainly capable of it; don't let my Penn lovefest fool you.  Taking and keeping Penn on the floor will prove to be no easy task, but Georges possesses the tools to accomplish just that.  And he can't become comfortable with the idea that he can lose the first two rounds and make up for it late in the fight.  He should push Penn early and work for takedowns often.  Even if Penn defends, he'll have burned enough of B.J.'s energy so he can push his cardio edge later in the fight.

But that's ultimately why this fight is so dangerous for St. Pierre.  A mistake made by B.J. ends up with him on his back.  GSP takes a misstep and he might wake up to Penn throwing strikes from the top.  It's so easy to forget Serra/St. Pierre I because Georges avenged the loss convincingly.  But there's no doubt that B.J. poses not only the biggest striking threat since that fight, but in his entire career.

The only play I recommend is Penn at anything above +140 or so.  If I'm a GSP fan or bettor, I'm very unhappy if I don't see Georges immediately shooting for takedowns after the opening bell.  His gameplan should center on pushing his cardio edge.  Penn, meanwhile, needs to constantly work towards finishing.  If he gets taken down, he should look for submissions or opportunities to get back on his feet.  Standing, he can find the same sort of success with his jab that he found against Sean Sherk.  He can then work off the jab with power shots and knees.

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Lyoto Machida

#4 Light Heavyweight

vs.

Thiago Silva

#8 Light Heavyweight

-270 (5D / DOG) Best Line +230 (5D)
30 Age 26
6'1" Height 6'1"
13 - 0 - 0 Record 13 - 0 - 0
3 / 2 TKO / SUB 10 / 2
Black House Fight Camp American Top Team
W - Ortiz (UD)
W - Sokoudjou (SUB)
W - Nakamura (UD)
Last 3 Fights W - Mendes (SUB)
W - Alexander (TKO)
W - Drwal (TKO)

Wednesday, Michael Rome asked, "Is Thiago Silva a threat to Lyoto Machida?"

The answer, in a syllable, is "no."

I'm having a hard time articulating the point because it's evident to me on so many levels. This will arguably be Machida's toughest fight to date. Afterall, Silva posseses a more dynamic top game than Tito Ortiz and better overall standup game than Sokoudjou.

The reverse, however, does not hold true. Machida will clearly be Silva's toughest opponent to date and by a very large margin. You lack an impressive fight card when you can debate whether your biggest test came from Tomasz Drwal (in a fight that Silva noticably gassed) or Antonio Mendes (who rocked Silva at the start of the first round).

Machida presents loads of problems for any fighter, and he's an especially bad matchup for Silva. Thiago likes to press the action, though not as wild or aggressively as per his reputation. This falls right into Machida's hands. Lyoto fights like a matador, and Thiago's just another bull for him to stick.

At this point, everyone knows Machida is "elusive" (or he "runs" for you cretins out there). He achieves that through excellent footwork, head movement, and timing. He seems to have a good chin which we witnessed in his fight with Sokoudjou (who obviously hits like a Mack truck). Like Anderson Silva, landing a knockdown blow on Machida is like swimming across a moat, climbing over castle walls, and then forcefully breaking down the gate. That is to say, not an easy task.

Silva's best option is taking the fight to the floor. He'll hit a couple stumbling blocks there as well. First, Machida showed very good takedown defense in his fight with Tito Ortiz. His ability to pummel for underhooks impressed me the most in their clinches. Second, Machida has very good jiu jitsu. He immediately swept Sokoudjou upon being taken down and worked a very patient top game until he finished the fight via side choke.

In my opinion, Silva just doesn't have the skillset to beat Machida. The only fighters at 205 that I don't have Machida as a intuitive favorite against are Quinton Jackson and Rashad Evans. Patient strikers who hit hard, move well, and have quality ground games. Jeez, who does that sound like?

I recommend a very big play on Machida. He's good up to -400 easily, and if you're as big on him as I am, you'll find value past -500. I see the fight playing out in two ways. Either Silva fights patiently and gets outpointed in a decision or he makes true on his word, chases after Machida, tires, and gets finished in the second or third round. If I was a tout service, this would be my Super Bowl Weekend LOCK OF THE YEAR.

Stephan Bonnar

#20 Light Heavyweight

vs.

Jon Jones

 

-170 (5D) Best Line +150 (UD)
31 Age 22
6'4" Height 6'4"
12 - 4 - 0 Record 7 - 0 - 0
2 / 7 TKO / SUB 5 / 1
Xtreme Couture/Team Sityodtong Fight Camp Team BombSquad
W - Schafer (TKO)
W - Nickels (SUB)
L - Griffin (UD)
Last 3 Fights W - Gusmao (UD)
W - Gabin (TKO)
W - Porter (KO)

It's the classic prospect vs. veteran coming off an injury fight.  Jones showed an interesting mix of Greco-Roman wrestling with flashy standup technique in his fight with Andre Gusmao.  Bonnar is Ken to Forrest Griffin's Ryu - a slightly inferior carbon copy (commence Street Fighter II debate!).  They're both listed as 6'4", though Bonnar seems like he'll be the bigger of the two fighters.  Regardless, without much tape on Jones or knowledge of Bonnar's recovery it's hard to handicap the fight.  I expect the fight to rest on whether or not Bonnar's healthy as he's more than capable of beating the non-elites at 205.  Back off unless you have inside info.

Karo Parisyan

#10 Welterweight

vs.

Dong Hyun Kim

 

-260 (DOG) Best Line +230 (5D)
26 Age 27
5'10" Height 6'1"
18 - 5 - 0 Record 11 - 0 - 1
0 / 9 TKO / SUB 6 / 1
Jackson's Submission Fighting Fight Camp Team M.A.D.
L - Alves (TKO)
W - Chonan (UD)
W - Burkman (UD)
Last 3 Fights
W - Brown (SD)
W - Tan (TKO)
D - Hasegawa

 

If this fight ends up going down*, I like a play on Kim here.  The line has moved significantly in the past 24 hours (I think people are piling on Kim after news that Karo might be injured and is considering pullint out of the fight), so the play isn't as good as it was a couple days ago.  Still, even if we disregard the injury rumors, Kim's judo should neutralize Karo's.  Kim's strikes well, and his ground 'n' pound will give Karo fits if he can get on top.  Take Kim for a unit, and hope this fight is on.

* - In the event that this fight gets canceled, I expect Fitch/Gono to get promoted.  So, I'll give you a tip on that...do not bet Gono.  If you're comfortable laying a lot of chalk, you can grab Fitch at any number near -600 and below.  Otherwise, stay away.

 

 

Nate Diaz

#21 Lightweight

 

vs.

Clay Guida

 

-125 (5D / BOOK) Best Line +105 (5D)
23 Age 27
6'0" Height 5'7"
10 - 2 - 0 Record 23 - 9 - 0
2 / 7 TKO / SUB 3 / 11
Cesar Gracie Jiu-Jitsu Fight Camp Hellhouse
W - Neer (SD)
W - Pellegrino (SUB)
W - Robinson (SUB)
Last 3 Fights
W - Danzig (UD)
W - Schiavo (TKO)
L - Huerta (SUB)

 

 

Just looking at their ability to finish in high level fights should give you an idea of who's the favorite here.  Guida's relentless and wild style will fall right into Diaz's gameplan.  Nate won't encounter the same problems he had with Josh Neer, who is one of the biggest lightweights in the UFC.  Guida, who could fight at 145, still won't have problems taking him down, but he won't be able to control him there.  Guida has subpar standup and doesn't hit nearly as hard as the bigger Neer.  I expect this fight to hit the ground and Diaz to look on a submission at somet point.  Take a unit on Diaz here.

Public plays:

1u on Penn @ +155
6u on Machida @ -270
1u on Diaz @ -125
1u on Kim @ +230
6.25u on Fitch @ -625

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Great writeup.

Those are my thoughts exactly as I believe there is no way in hell Penn comes into this fight not in tip top shape because he wants revenge so bad. I am calling Penn by sub in Rd 2 unless GSP decides not to shoot over & over then I will take Penn via TKO in 2.

by dnevil001 on Jan 30, 2009 4:32 PM EST reply actions   0 recs

Good read

Might just want to change GSP from MW to WW though.

by constantin3 on Jan 30, 2009 4:34 PM EST reply actions   0 recs

GSP is the MW Champ? Has Anderson been told?

by Ubernoober on Jan 30, 2009 4:39 PM EST reply actions   0 recs

The real question is-

IF Penn locks on a sub early will he let it go like he did against Pulver just to give out more punishment?

by dnevil001 on Jan 30, 2009 4:39 PM EST reply actions   0 recs

not a chance

He’ll have to work a little bit harder to land the sub, he’ll go ahead and finish it.

by adamdd on Jan 30, 2009 4:41 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

machida @ -500 and we haven’t seen him fight in 8 months? I think you’re in love.

Guida could easily beat Diaz if he could only maintain an ounce of thoughtfulness instead of just going apeshit like he normally does. In an earlier interview he stated that he was going to fight Nate the exact same way he’s fought everyone else — like you said, it plays right into Nate’s gameplan. For some reason I can’t believe he’s gonna be that careless against such a dangerous leg triangle. Guida via 15 minutes of lay ’n pray.

I'm just a dude who's trying to put it together.

by mma_dude on Jan 30, 2009 4:52 PM EST reply actions   0 recs

Although you admited it

I think your “Penn lovefest” hindered your post. You begin by saying the commentators make it sound like GSP should be a -500 favourite. Well, you make it sound like BJ should be a -500 favourite.

Is the fight closer than the commentators/oddsmakers make it look? Absolutely. But giving the edge for BJ in the later rounds? BJ can finish the fight at anytime and GSP has to grind out a decision? I just don’t see that.

Kuwabara Kuwabara

by J. B. Maddox on Jan 30, 2009 4:54 PM EST reply actions   0 recs

Some areas flawed analysis, IMO.

There’s no evidence that a 5 round fight favors Penn. There’s no evidence that he can be in great shape at 170 (155, yes he can). BJ’s jab was great against Sherk, but Sherk had a huge reach disadvantage, and stood and boxed with Penn, only threatening 1 TD the whole fight.

I agree mostly with the strategies each guy should employ

by Hardcharger on Jan 30, 2009 5:00 PM EST reply actions   0 recs

A 5 round fight MIGHT favor Penn if you believed that Penn has the kind of punching power as Fedor or Rampage. I don’t believe it.

Also, Penn with that one dimension, paints himself into a corner — he has to finish to win. GSP has more avenues to victory.

I'm just a dude who's trying to put it together.

by mma_dude on Jan 30, 2009 5:15 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

what....

what is the one dimension you are talking about? BJ Could win by sub, ko, or decision, if he takes enough of the early rounds. How is that one dimension?

by missmanners on Jan 30, 2009 5:21 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

The post say’s that Penn could be considered a favorite in the later rounds because he is more likely to finish the fight. I’m saying that is not really an advantage because it likely means that he is losing on points. GSP can win on points or a stoppage - see… more avenues. Penn has 1 and GSP has 2.

I'm just a dude who's trying to put it together.

by mma_dude on Jan 30, 2009 5:36 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

I never said Penn was a favorite in the later rounds of the fight.

by Mike Fagan on Jan 30, 2009 5:41 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

In fact, a five round fight theoretically favors an in-shape Penn. Penn is more likely to finish St. Pierre than vice versa. Two more rounds becomes ten more minutes for Penn to land a heavy strike…

I'm just a dude who's trying to put it together.

by mma_dude on Jan 30, 2009 5:44 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

That does not say that Penn is a favorite in the later rounds.

by Mike Fagan on Jan 30, 2009 6:28 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

Whether you are saying that Penn has an advantage in the later rounds, or that he has an advantage in a 5 round fight, is irrelevant. Because, either way, he’ll need to finish the fight, where as GSP can either finish or win on points.

I'm just a dude who's trying to put it together.

by mma_dude on Jan 30, 2009 6:37 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

It’s much more likely that BJ finishes GSP, just like it’s much more likely that GSP wins if it goes to the cards.

Also, it does matter what I was saying because you were completely misrepresenting/misunderstanding my thoughts.

by Mike Fagan on Jan 30, 2009 6:50 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

I don’t think that BJ can sustain the same kind of abuse that Fitch did. I think really what you are saying is that BJ’s only real shot is a finishing maneuvre of some sort. A lucky punch is probably his best bet. On the other hand, there are several ways GSP can win.

I’m sorry if my semantic error offended you… It was really irrelevant to my thought.

I'm just a dude who's trying to put it together.

by mma_dude on Jan 30, 2009 7:36 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

Penn won’t need to take that kind of damage. Penn is a far better fighter than Fitch, and the fact that GSP couldn’t finish Fitch leads me to believe that he won’t be able to finish Penn. GSP only has one way to beat Penn and that is wrestling.

by cyph on Jan 30, 2009 9:31 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

… except that Penn can, you know, also win by stoppage or by points — so 2 to 2, too. Saying Penn could be a favorite in later rounds because he’s more likely to finish than GSP does not mean that Penn cannot also win a decision. Anyway, I think Fagan said “theoretically” not necessarily that Penn should be favored to win later rounds.

by Kierkegaard on Jan 30, 2009 5:42 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

Sure… I’m talking ‘theoretically’ as well.

I think that if GSP is able to survive to the latter rounds, then he is probably winning on points. Unless you think that Penn is gonna give him the same kind of beating that GSP gave Fitch. But that’s just silly!

I'm just a dude who's trying to put it together.

by mma_dude on Jan 30, 2009 5:46 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

I agree that’d be silly. I actually think GSP beats Penn up and wins this one, myself.

by Kierkegaard on Jan 30, 2009 5:48 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

… in fact, if anything it seems the post suggests that Penn is more likely to be able to stop than GSP — giving Penn the ability to win on points or stoppage and GSP only on points.

by Kierkegaard on Jan 30, 2009 5:47 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

I would love to hear your scenario for Penn winning on points…. I just can’t see it.
Use the Sherk jab on GSP?
Take GSP down and elbow the shit out of him a la Stevenson?
Mui Thai clinch?
Leg kicks?

Don’t see it.

I'm just a dude who's trying to put it together.

by mma_dude on Jan 30, 2009 5:51 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

well..

some people’s minds are made up. anything can, and sometimes does happen in mma. Many didn’t see Randy taking down Tim for 5 rounds and beating him to the punch.

That’s why they fight.

by missmanners on Jan 30, 2009 5:57 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

… like I said, I think GSP is going to win. Just saying that the post seems to suggest that.

by Kierkegaard on Jan 30, 2009 6:17 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

yeah I agree...

But there’s not much talk about the scenario by which Penn wins on points.

I'm just a dude who's trying to put it together.

by mma_dude on Jan 30, 2009 6:40 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

He used the “Sherk” jab on GSP in the first fight. Also a counter left hook. Go back and watch the first round of their first fight. BJ routinely beats GSP to the punch. He uses his head movement to avoid GSP’s 1-2 punches down the middle and counters with a left hook.

He may not be able to take GSP down, but what if he sweeps him? That’s a very relevant scenario, and we haven’t seen how GSP will handle being on his back. He was there for a very limited time against Fitch, and was subbed by Hughes when Hughes had top position.

BJ nullified GSP in the clinch in the first fight.

BJ doesn’t throw kicks.

I believe what Fagan was trying to say was that BJ has more outs in this fight than GSP. BJ has never been KO’d or dropped from punches. He was TKO’d once due to a rib injury against Hughes, and he’s never been submitted. GSP on the other hand has been TKO’d and submitted.

GSP can win the fight, by all means, but I just wanted to play a little devil’s advocate.

Contributing writer for MMA-Analyst.com

by Joe Schmitt on Jan 30, 2009 7:03 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

Sure...

GSP can not withstand 3 rounds of the beating he took in the first round of the last fight. But that’s what BJ will have to do — beat him up for 3 rounds, or put him to sleep.

If BJ can beat him up for three rounds, don’t you think that it is most likely the first three? And if it is the first three, then why would a 5 round fight be advantageous to BJ?

If BJ has more ‘outs’, someone tell me what they are?

I'm just a dude who's trying to put it together.

by mma_dude on Jan 30, 2009 7:45 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

Do you still not understand why more time would be advantageous for B.J. if I think he has more ability to finish the fight?

Let’s say tomorrow night rounds 1-3 play out exactly like the first fight and we somehow know the judges lean towards a St. Pierre split decision. Penn still has ten minutes to finish the fight. And though BJ slowed down in the first fight, he was never in a position where he was completely spent. Considering he should have much better conditioning, I don’t expect a huge dropoff later in the fight.

“I don’t think that BJ can sustain the same kind of abuse that Fitch did.”

There’s very little chance B.J. takes four to five knockdown shots like Fitch did. This isn’t even an issue.

by Mike Fagan on Jan 30, 2009 7:59 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

Dude...

That is exactly what I thought you were saying. I was trying to clarify it, because it wasn’t articulated soo well.

A five round fight is an advantage for BJ ‘cause it gives him extra rounds to try and finish. Obviously, BJ ain’t gonna win on points. He needs the knock out.

Why you freakin’ out on me? The other posters were the one’s confused by your lack of articulation.

I'm just a dude who's trying to put it together.

by mma_dude on Jan 30, 2009 8:08 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

BJ VS Uno 2

You’re right. I’ve rewatched the fight recently, and BJ Penn won that fight outright. I have no idea why it was a draw. He won 1, 4 and 5. Although, he did slow markedly after the 1st round.

by cyph on Jan 30, 2009 6:56 PM EST reply actions   0 recs

I also wanted to bring up something here that I haven’t seen anyone else mention in their analysis. I know all the stuff about the fighters being different and all of that, but as I have been studying the first fight a lot to do some analysis, I’ve noticed a surprising trend.

BJ constantly comes forward in the first round of the fight. GSP is constantly backpedalling, and has no real answer for the pace that BJ was pushing. BJ is continually moving forward and countering GSP as he moves out of the pocket while throwing a straight 1-2 combination. BJ let’s up more in the later rounds which allows GSP to shoot in on him. I think it will be extremely difficult for GSP to capitalize on his explosive shots while backpedalling. He was able to use his wrestling on the others because he was coming forward throwing punches and then successfully changing levels. While he’s backpedalling, it’s harder to take an explosive takedown shot that makes GSP so dangerous.

I haven’t seen anyone else try to use this tactic on GSP. Everyone he has faced since the first BJ fight has either been limited in the stand up, or they let GSP dictate the pace of the fight on the feet.

Just an observation I’d throw out there.

Contributing writer for MMA-Analyst.com

by Joe Schmitt on Jan 30, 2009 7:09 PM EST reply actions   0 recs

Great observation...

BJ needs to come out of his corner aggressively and knock GSP the fuck out. If he’s gonna win.

I'm just a dude who's trying to put it together.

by mma_dude on Jan 30, 2009 7:53 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

Well great job on this

But its all for not. BJ looked like a fat turd at the weighins

Gimme 1 Round!

by skwirrl on Jan 30, 2009 8:12 PM EST reply actions   0 recs

That’s what he looks like at 170+. I figure you’ve never watched BJ fight before at 170?

by cyph on Jan 30, 2009 9:34 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

If BJ can reverse and establish a dominant position of his own when GSP takes him down, BJ has an excellent chance of doing something. I do think it’s a matter of when and not if GSP takes him down unless BJ is able to do some significant damage in the standup first. One thing I saw in the second Serra fight that’s encouraging about GSP is that he doesn’t generally let vanity take him out of a smart gameplan. He could have easily tried to stand and throw leather to prove he’s a better striker than Serra. Instead, GSP almost instantly took him down and softened him up with vicious ground and pound.

Isn’t it correct that BJ lost the last two welterweight fights he was involved in? Of course, there was the close split decision with GSP, but Hughes stopped him. Yes, he was probably winning both affairs at some point, but he didn’t pull either out. I just think he’s a much better lightweight than welterweight. The least likely method of victory for GSP is by submission, but he can definitely finish BJ with strikes, especially on the ground.

This is why I wrote the post about this fight yesterday. I wanted to see this fight analyzed a number of times by a number of people. I knew Fagan would do a great job in his gambling piece which he did. After tomorrow we’ll be relegated to discussing the aftermath. Let’s speculate while we still have time.

by Cannon Jacques on Jan 30, 2009 9:41 PM EST reply actions   0 recs

Penn won round 1 and 2 against Hughes. His ribs broke in the third and was TKO’ed.

by cyph on Jan 30, 2009 10:07 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

The problem I have with this argument is ignoring the injury to BJ. If you seriously think he wasn’t injured, tell me when the last time someone has passed BJ’s guard as easily as Hughes did. It just doesn’t happen like that even if BJ is gassed out.

I think you’re underestimating BJ’s ground control from the bottom. The time that GSP had Penn on the ground in the first fight he mounted nothing significant. In fact, if anything I think BJ will be more motivated on the ground this time around. He has said that he knows he can’t give away rounds, and the way his flexibility is, he can surprise Georges at anytime (similar to the omoplata/gogoplata he attempted in the 3rd round). Training BJJ with black belts in one thing, but training with a black belt of Penn’s caliber, coupled with that insane flexibility, is a whole different level.

Another thing I noticed from the first fight, and I know before you say it, a lot has changed, GSP didn’t land a single right hand on the feet until there was around 1 minute left in the second round. Almost 9 minutes of fighting took place before GSP landed a punch with his dominant hand. That’s astonishing to me.

Contributing writer for MMA-Analyst.com

by Joe Schmitt on Jan 31, 2009 12:21 AM EST up reply actions   0 recs

I could be underestimating BJ on the bottom. I just rewatched the second fight with Hughes. Intense fatigue looked to be a big issue, but it could have been the injury. With that said, GSP is not Hughes. I feel like a lot of people are giving him credit as a great wrestler, but are glossing over his damaging ground and pound. He’s bigger than Hughes and I believe his striking from the top is more vicious. That’s what I think will be the difference. As good as BJ is on the bottom, he can’t stay there. I think GSP’s punches and elbows will be too much.

by Cannon Jacques on Jan 31, 2009 12:33 AM EST up reply actions   0 recs

If you watch when BJ comes out for the 3rd round, his hands are down by his midsection and he lets Hughes tee off on his face. Hughes lands a body shot and that’s when Penn attempts that weak shot.

GSP has good ground and pound, not doubt about that, but with BJ being so flexible, he keeps his guard high and doesn’t allow GSP to posture up to create damaging blows. Also, if GSP overcommits on any of his ground and pound, he could very well end up being swept and put on his back.

I am really pumped now and there’s only about 8 hours until the event starts. Let’s hope it lives up to everything we know it can be.

Contributing writer for MMA-Analyst.com

by Joe Schmitt on Jan 31, 2009 2:18 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

I just want to say that you are nuts if you think Ken is inferior

He was a higher tier character in SF3. And before he was nerfed, he was better in SF2 as well. SF4 is another story though.

by zeroword on Jan 30, 2009 10:26 PM EST reply actions   0 recs

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