Rumor: Affliction is DONE... (Updated: Atencio Denies)
by mmalogic on Jan 29, 2009 11:35 PM EST
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Promoted from the Fanposts by Kid Nate. Please note that this news is unconfirmed but MMALogic has shown himself to be a credible inside source in the past.
Affliction MMA is Done.
Tom Atencio will be making an announcement soon.
A third show will probably happen to fulfill Affliction Entertainments larger contract obligations unless a deal with Zuffa can be arranged to offset some of the costs while Affliction pays off their contract obligations via "sponsorships"...
You could hear in Tom's voice after the event - the realization that:
Everyone is making money here (Trump, Golden Boy, the fighters, etc...) at the expense of Affliction losing millions.
With Affliction footing virtually the entire bill and after PPV distributor: Showtime and Promoter Golden Boy taking their cut - Affliction is left with less than $13 per PPV buy to cover expenses.
Making the initial estimate of 250,000 buys not even close to what will be needed to break even.
Update from Michael Rome: I have been digging at this story for the last 3 or 4 hours since I first heard it. I believe it to be true. A source at UFC informed that Lorenzo Fertitta was contacted today by Affliction looking for a "beneficial" way out, but it was only one source and it remains just a rumor.
Update 2: Tom Atencio was apparently on a Sirius show and denied the end of Affliction. He also denied ever being on the Tom Leykis show, which was a rumor posted elsewhere:
Tom Atencio denies all rumors of Affliction closing its doors. He denies even appearing on the Tom Leykis show or talking with the UFC.
"Things are moving forward...as long as people are talking about me I must be doing something right."
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For something like this, I'm gonna need a source
by Zack Gobie on Jan 29, 2009 8:32 PM EST reply actions 0 recs
I’ve learned to trust this guy. He broke Randy coming back.
"I see him beating Anderson Silva. I see him picking him apart. Him at a 131 years old...(trails off)." - Tito on Belfort at Affliction:DOR
by Rundownloser on Jan 29, 2009 10:07 PM EST up reply actions 1 recs
fail so far
im not impressed with your performance
by troy145 on Jan 29, 2009 8:37 PM EST reply actions 0 recs
How the fuck do you know all this shit Logic
by The Bronzeville Bully on Jan 29, 2009 8:40 PM EST reply actions 0 recs
even if he is throwing shit against the wall we knew this was coming.
by banter on Jan 29, 2009 8:41 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
No doubt, I saw this coming but Logic is always have the inside stuff
by The Bronzeville Bully on Jan 29, 2009 8:47 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
quote a source quote a source quote a source quote a source
You need to at least quote a source
you don’t have to name him…but at least quote it
by banter on Jan 29, 2009 8:46 PM EST reply actions 0 recs
The entire post above… you can quote me on it if that helps :)
by mmalogic on Jan 29, 2009 9:01 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Brother all I am saying is quote something that someone told you.
by banter on Jan 29, 2009 9:16 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Here’s something my lady told me this morning:
“Logic you have a huge cock”
Will that do?
by mmalogic on Jan 29, 2009 9:26 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Liiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiies!
:)
by banter on Jan 29, 2009 9:37 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
You told me that no one would ever know I said that!
I mean…
Shit.
"I'm AJB and I endorse this nut-puncher."
by AJB on Jan 29, 2009 10:27 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
My women always call me by my internet handle. I thought that was the norm. It is rule 3. Don’t use your real name. It comes after rule 1. no eye contact. and rule 2. no kissing on the mouth.
by szucconi on Jan 30, 2009 12:34 AM EST up reply actions 1 recs
What about Rule 34?
Ever tried. Ever failed. No matter. Try Again. Fail again. Fail better. -Samuel Beckett
by themachiavellian on Jan 30, 2009 1:54 AM EST up reply actions 0 recs
rule 3. DONT OVERPAY..? haha.
http://weoweoweo.deviantart.com/
by Anton Tabuena on Jan 30, 2009 6:18 AM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Not another press conference.
Did you know we are in high demand, Laura?
by Eugene Schelfaut on Jan 29, 2009 8:47 PM EST reply actions 0 recs
You Mean Affliction Entertainment is Done
Highly Doubt Affliction Clothing is done.
Too many “ultimate fighter” fans would commit suicide.
:)
I also hear Golden Boy may be involved in some sort of purchase after the third show, yada, yada, yada. I guess we will see what happens.
by MMASuPreMaCy on Jan 29, 2009 8:48 PM EST reply actions 0 recs
All trains boarding Rumor Ville.
All aboard.
by MMASuPreMaCy on Jan 29, 2009 8:49 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Obviously I’m talking about the MMA… but I should edit it.
Golden Boy aint buying shit.
by mmalogic on Jan 29, 2009 8:54 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
nthing the request for a source or at least a quote.
by Chromium on Jan 29, 2009 8:59 PM EST reply actions 0 recs
I have no doubt that you know your stuff logic, which is why I tend to believe this. I am curious however, regarding the announcement, are you saying that you expect Atencio to come right out and announce that the 3rd show will be the final one?
To bad they didn’t go about this the proper way, I felt last weekend was a good show and a vast improvement over Banned.
If you're not submitting, you're just rolling around with another guy.
by BJJDenver on Jan 29, 2009 9:00 PM EST reply actions 0 recs
Yes, Attencio within 7 days will be announcing that Affliction will be done as an “MMA promoter” and the 3rd show will be it’s final.
by mmalogic on Jan 29, 2009 9:03 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Which is what their initial plans were correct?
To produce 3 shows and assess from there.
by MMASuPreMaCy on Jan 29, 2009 9:04 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Really???
I thought their plans were to be “THE Q-TIP” of the MMA industry…
by mmalogic on Jan 29, 2009 9:19 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
You mean to call MMA “Ultimate Fighting”?
UFC did their part on that one.
by MMASuPreMaCy on Jan 30, 2009 12:42 AM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Thanks!
If you're not submitting, you're just rolling around with another guy.
by BJJDenver on Jan 29, 2009 9:09 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
I don’t think an announcement will be made until the third show.
Why would they do it now?
by MMASuPreMaCy on Jan 29, 2009 9:04 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
He said on some radio station today they would be “taking a break” after Show 3 allegedly. It kind of sounds like the “bankruptcy” scenario put forth by some people. Hopefully someone like Loretta Hunt is digging into it.
by smoogy on Jan 29, 2009 9:01 PM EST reply actions 0 recs
I know nothing about bankruptcy. Can they do that without the entire company filing bankruptcy?
If you're not submitting, you're just rolling around with another guy.
by BJJDenver on Jan 29, 2009 9:02 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Its a seperate entity
So yah they can. They made sure they were well seperated from Affliction clothing
Gimme 1 Round!
by skwirrl on Jan 29, 2009 9:07 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
thanks for the info.
If you're not submitting, you're just rolling around with another guy.
by BJJDenver on Jan 29, 2009 9:10 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
I dont think it’s bankruptcy yet…
I think he is trying a hail marry pass at the moment. Basically trying to get his “partners” to start ponying up otherwise he’s giving up.
You know like:
“Yeah this all awesome and shit while I’m paying for everything, but it’s not going to continue so either put up or shut up”
by mmalogic on Jan 29, 2009 9:08 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Like Golden Boy, who wants to get into MMA.
by MMASuPreMaCy on Jan 29, 2009 9:11 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
They don’t want to get into MMA…
The want to get a paycheck while not spending a dime which was the arrangement with affliction.
by mmalogic on Jan 29, 2009 9:20 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Well see.
I think they do (of course as long as it is profitable for them).
by MMASuPreMaCy on Jan 29, 2009 9:23 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Yes
From what I’ve heard, it sounds more like someone is trying to pressurize the situation, rather than Affliction MMA just calling it quits.
by smoogy on Jan 29, 2009 9:27 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
I think it’s both…
There’s a reason this will be coming out before the third show rather than waiting until after the third show. They really don’t want to do the third show with the way things are – so if there’s ever a time to put the pressure on it’s now.
It’s a throw the ball down the field and close your eyes type of situation… it’s better to throw than to hold onto the ball and wait for the time to run out sort of thing.
by mmalogic on Jan 29, 2009 10:42 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
You should change your name to mmanalogy.
"I see him beating Anderson Silva. I see him picking him apart. Him at a 131 years old...(trails off)." - Tito on Belfort at Affliction:DOR
by Rundownloser on Jan 29, 2009 10:55 PM EST up reply actions 1 recs
Source: Tom Leykis Show
Tom Atencio stopped by the studios here in California, and was quoted by saying that their third show will be the final show for Affliction, and quoted that they have put on nothing but great fights.
Quote:
“The third show will be it. We dived into the MMA buisness for a reason. To put on good fights. We have done nothing but that. The third show will be it for us. We are taking a break.” said Affliction VP Tom Atencio.
by smoogy on Jan 29, 2009 11:49 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Thanks for some actual sourced information smoogy.
by MMASuPreMaCy on Jan 30, 2009 12:44 AM EST up reply actions 0 recs
So, can we agree it’s the same gamble Station Casinos took in 2001? I honestly hope Affliction has the same success and all fans can watch high profile matches besides when the UFC allows us to. Local MMA will survive, but we need a high profile promotion besides UFC, IMO.
by midwestbred on Jan 30, 2009 3:32 AM EST up reply actions 1 recs
This is also the guy that said that
Cung Lee is already in talks with ZUFFA in a previous fan post.
Gimme 1 Round!
by skwirrl on Jan 29, 2009 9:01 PM EST reply actions 0 recs
I'll take his 90% reliability
Over blind fandom.
by Blackout612 on Jan 29, 2009 9:02 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Wouldn’t be surprising.
If you're not submitting, you're just rolling around with another guy.
by BJJDenver on Jan 29, 2009 9:03 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Cung Le admitted to being in talks with Zuffa after my post :)
by mmalogic on Jan 29, 2009 9:04 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
My point is
you didn’t even spell his name right
Gimme 1 Round!
by skwirrl on Jan 29, 2009 9:06 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
so you're not ALWAYS right
Though you’ve already bought yourself an out by going with what I kinda guessed this was from him
I think he is trying a hail marry pass at the moment. Basically trying to get his "partners" to start ponying up otherwise he’s giving up.
We’ll see if it works. Golden Boy can make this a profitable venture at some point down the road. The only question is how far down the road
Gimme 1 Round!
by skwirrl on Jan 29, 2009 9:17 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
How is it an out? The news will still come out that Affliction doesn’t plan on continuing to promote MMA which is what I am saying.
Do you think if Golden Boy all of a sudden says: “wait a sec, we’ll go in with you 50-50” that they will think about it?
It’s not likely but this is the reason why he will be letting it out now rather than after the third show… in hopes of getting someone bite.
by mmalogic on Jan 29, 2009 9:24 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
I think that was Bruce’s brother.
by MMASuPreMaCy on Jan 29, 2009 9:09 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Yeah!
Everyone knows the proper misspelling is “Chung Le”, lol.
If you're not submitting, you're just rolling around with another guy.
by BJJDenver on Jan 29, 2009 9:13 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
One Thing No One is Looking At...
If Affliction is truly done promoting MMA events, that will open A HUGE WINDOW for either Strikeforce, Bellator, or the ProElite buyer.
The wheels will keep on turning my friends.
by MMASuPreMaCy on Jan 29, 2009 9:08 PM EST reply actions 0 recs
Have to keep the humor in these rumor threads.
by MMASuPreMaCy on Jan 29, 2009 9:10 PM EST up reply actions 1 recs
I heard Tom Atencio announced it on the Tom Leykis Show today.
by mattman73 on Jan 29, 2009 9:27 PM EST reply actions 0 recs
MMA Supremacy
Badly wants a competitor for UFC, wishful thinking,
by The Bronzeville Bully on Jan 29, 2009 9:38 PM EST reply actions 0 recs
Always good to keep someone on their toes, or else you become Microsoft or EA Sports.
by MMASuPreMaCy on Jan 30, 2009 12:46 AM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Mac owns about a 10% percent market share… MMASuPreMaCy has the valid point (even though he has waaay to many capital letters in his name)
by midwestbred on Jan 30, 2009 3:37 AM EST up reply actions 0 recs
It's not exactly a shock...
but still. Seeing how much they improved production between show 1 and show 2 I’d have liked to have seen where they ended up around show 6
Contributing Editor - BloodyElbow.com - SBNation's mixed martial arts headquarters.
by Brent Brookhouse on Jan 29, 2009 10:02 PM EST reply actions 0 recs
Zuffa can totally take this and run with it. Cut a deal where Affliction’s last show is actually a UFC PPV and they get some advertising room, Affliction gets one last kick in the ass, but by bending over and taking it, are back in the UFC’s good graces.
Not gonna happen, but would definately be nifty. Hopefully Wamma will be dying as well…fuckers.
by kyfm621 on Jan 29, 2009 10:13 PM EST reply actions 0 recs
Holy shit, after the update, I think I totally called this one. Mwahaha.
by kyfm621 on Jan 29, 2009 11:55 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
I hope T-Shirt guy pulls through
Remember we thought they were done when they postponed Day of Rectioning, hopefully this turns out to be false.
by Pandanus on Jan 29, 2009 10:13 PM EST reply actions 0 recs
I heard Tom Atencio announced it on the Tom Leykis Show today.
What did he say exactly?
by Pandanus on Jan 29, 2009 10:13 PM EST reply actions 0 recs
It may be true, but the guy who posted this knows nothing. This is horrible reporting, frankly unethical.
It wouldnt take a brain surgeon to predict the fall of Affliction.
by jason4jc on Jan 29, 2009 10:14 PM EST reply actions 0 recs
And this is why Logic isn’t a reporter, he’s just a guy who knows a guy and is letting us know. Did you not read the disclaimer?
by kyfm621 on Jan 29, 2009 10:20 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
logic doesn’t know a guy, he is a guy.
by iiowyn on Jan 29, 2009 10:27 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Way to prove my point even more. haha
by kyfm621 on Jan 29, 2009 10:28 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
This is rich. Please tell me how this is “frankly unethical”. I can’t wait to hear this.
by Luke Thomas on Jan 29, 2009 10:24 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
reporting something with no backing is unethical. I guess a “fanpost” is not reporting, but when you state something as fact it should at least violate some self set ethic.
by jason4jc on Jan 29, 2009 10:27 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Maybe I'm seeing things...
but it does say RUMOR before Affliction is done….
Affliction’s demise was a far gone conclusion but apparently this guy’s info is respected and its not like its a far fetched idea.
by Gunslinger20 on Jan 29, 2009 10:54 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
I heard Fedor...
is going to be the new head bouncer on the Jerry Springer Show… my source will remain anonymous of course.
by midwestbred on Jan 29, 2009 10:22 PM EST reply actions 0 recs
I hope who ever taught you to be a smartass stays anonymous…you need some more work.
“Jerry Springer”? Really…
Just screwin with ya. lol
by kyfm621 on Jan 29, 2009 10:24 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
what was I thinking… I meant Rachel Ray.
by midwestbred on Jan 29, 2009 10:26 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
HAHA. It is still close to slander or libel if it is a lie
by jason4jc on Jan 29, 2009 10:24 PM EST reply actions 0 recs
Thats like saying you were close to getting laid…you still didn’t get laid.
by kyfm621 on Jan 29, 2009 10:25 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
uh. hmm.
"I was trying to rob him. And he took my gun from me. And the gun was full of blanks. And he shot a blank into my eye. And now I cannot see from this eye ever again, the doctors say."
"Well to be honest it sounds like it's all your fault."
by SC on Jan 29, 2009 10:25 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
…or at least a waste of time and energy to speculate something with no source at all. Reporting can be wrong from time to time, but at least give some credibility and some backing to what you say. Any idiot can make up any rumor if not.
by jason4jc on Jan 29, 2009 10:25 PM EST reply actions 0 recs
Your clueless aren’t you…MMALogic has broken some big stories before…without a source. And was right. Do you really think this would get fronted if it was some random ass dude with no credibility starting a bullshit rumor?
by kyfm621 on Jan 29, 2009 10:27 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
I will shut up. I may be wrong. I think the report is very very possible. I do not doubt the validity of. I apologize for making any unfounded comments about the poster (not intended to be sarcastic). I am just shocked that the news will be so soon after Day of Recknoning and not more like May.
Let the talk begin about where Afflictions fighters will land then.
by jason4jc on Jan 29, 2009 10:30 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
You apparently haven’t been here very long. mmalogic is a very reliable source.
by iiowyn on Jan 29, 2009 10:28 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Dude...
go away if you’re so upset with this. Logic has proven himself as a VERY reliable source on some big things in the past. He is reporting ON A BLOG that this is what he has been told. It’s not “slander” to report a rumor on a blog…like…not at all. If you want the source…MMALogic is your source. It is up to YOU to decide if it is a credible source or not. But if your entire time in this comment section is going to be freaking out about “slander” I think we’d all prefer that you just stop posting responses on this particular article.
Contributing Editor - BloodyElbow.com - SBNation's mixed martial arts headquarters.
by Brent Brookhouse on Jan 29, 2009 10:29 PM EST up reply actions 4 recs
Rec'd
for general blog-ville etiquette/rules of engagement education.
There is no such thing as innocence, only degrees of guilt.
by misterjonez on Jan 29, 2009 11:39 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Wow!!
You guys are sure diggin in to MMALOGICs cred. The title clearly states that it is a “rumor”. This feels more like a public execution than a community. Give the guy a break. If he’s right then you can thank him and apologize, if he’s wrong, it was only a rumor anyway. Stay Classy Bloody Elbow!!!
by nitro on Jan 29, 2009 10:29 PM EST reply actions 0 recs
Fairly certain the rumor part was added when this got fronted.
by iiowyn on Jan 29, 2009 10:33 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
It’s there now, does it matter? There was one or two comments before this got posted…I’m sure those guys managed to read the disclaimer after it was fronted.
by kyfm621 on Jan 29, 2009 10:35 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
What stories has mmalogic broken in the past?
by Ubernoober on Jan 29, 2009 10:35 PM EST reply actions 0 recs
No offense to mmalogic...
that news story being broken I guess depends on when he brought it to the masses… I only started posting on here about 2 months ago or so nevermind…. maybe he found about it a few days before the media conference call was scheduled.
by Gunslinger20 on Jan 29, 2009 10:58 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
If I’m remembering right, it was about a week or so before the original conference call. I’ve got faith in him, I mean, everything is taken with a grain of salt, but I know theres a bit of truth in there at least.
by kyfm621 on Jan 29, 2009 10:59 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
He must really be on the inside...
The Brock Lesnar vs Randy Couture matchup was announced the same day that Randy officially agreed to come back….
Must be really close to someone in the industry. Should use that knowledge to make some money… lol
by Gunslinger20 on Jan 29, 2009 11:03 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
I don't think making money
is a problem for mmalogic ;)
There is no such thing as innocence, only degrees of guilt.
by misterjonez on Jan 29, 2009 11:40 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Of course...
They were like “hey Randy’s fighting Brock. By the way, Randy is back in the UFC.” How does “lol” fit in after stating he should use that knowledge to make money? So he’s going to “sell” his inside information to someone that might pay for it?
“Hi, I’m Gunslinger20, and I’ve discovered… the internet.”
by midwestbred on Jan 30, 2009 3:50 AM EST up reply actions 0 recs
It was a joke…
You’re right, they were TALKING about Randy vs Brock before Randy left but the bout was made official the same day that Randy signed on to come back… that is a fact.
Nice try on looking cool at my expense considering you really didn’t understand what I wrote in the first place.
by Gunslinger20 on Jan 30, 2009 12:28 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
i believe the identity of logic is… Dana White
by nk on Jan 30, 2009 5:44 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Seeing as how their is no one for fedor to fight after Barnett, I don't care.
Brad Ziegler had a scoreless inning streak. Brad Ziegler had not met BJ Upton.
by P Brady on Jan 29, 2009 10:45 PM EST reply actions 0 recs
Sucks to hear. I loved the events.
"A lie gets halfway around the world before the truth has a chance to get its pants on." - Sir Winston Churchill
by FlyByKnight on Jan 29, 2009 10:47 PM EST reply actions 0 recs
a bit skeptical, but intrigued at the same time.
anyone know what kind of contracts they made with their fighters? if they do fold, will we see zombiexc 2.0, with a majority of the fighters hanging in limbo? i doubt it, since they’ve said all along that they were focusing on their first three events… but it would be brutal for the fighters involved if it went down like that.
and if any of the big ticket fighters DO transition to the ufc somehow, that’ll mean alot less money for an elitexc fighters, should they ever become available. as much as everyone would like to see every single premier fighter in the world, fighting under the ufc banner, it’s just not practical.
by woooburn on Jan 29, 2009 10:54 PM EST reply actions 0 recs
I doubt that we see a ZombieXC situation. Affliction always seemed like they were much more concerned with fighters than Elite. Besides, they have sponsorship deals with all these fighters (and many more). If they screw over a bunch of fighters, they have pretty much severed their connection with the MMA scene.
"I see him beating Anderson Silva. I see him picking him apart. Him at a 131 years old...(trails off)." - Tito on Belfort at Affliction:DOR
by Rundownloser on Jan 29, 2009 11:02 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Huh.
Well, I’m speechless. I mean, who saw this financially strong operation crumbling?
I’m going to lie down now. This stunning revelation has taken a lot out of me.
Also, the “initial estimate” of 250k buys is rich. If you do psychotropic drugs and write down nonsense you see while you’re tripping balls, it probably doesn’t count in real life.
What else? Oh, their shirts are the most poorly designed things I’ve seen this side of Alan Belcher’s Johnny Cash tattoo. I know I used that one before, but I like it, and I figure I’d better get my fill while anyone remember what Affliction was.
And now, in honor of Affliction’s demise, I’m going to take a large pile of money and have Donald Trump set it on fire, then I’ll take another large pile of money and invite Oscar De Lay Hoya over and have him flush it down the toilet while Shane Mosely fights at my neighbor’s house. Finally, just for funsies, I’ll let Tito Ortiz with his impressive grasp of the English language comment on the proceedings.
Still, here’s to hoping that ZUFFA signs Fedor and a couple two and three other of Affliction’s fighters to deals. Smart deals, I mean, not any of these “hey, we’ve got 90k sitting around, why don’t we hire Paul Buentello to beat up Fedor’s training partner?” kind of deals.
“And none of this would have happened if UFC would have just let their fighters where these t-shirts.” – Kenny Rice
"BJ on the BE" - Kierkegaard
by Brett Jones on Jan 29, 2009 10:58 PM EST reply actions 11 recs
You could cut the sarcasm with a knife…I love it. haha
by kyfm621 on Jan 29, 2009 11:01 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Hilarious.
Well done you sarcastic fool.
by Cannon Jacques on Jan 29, 2009 11:38 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Very nicely done.
At no point along the way did I feel offended, yet the commentary remains scathing.
Rec’d,
There is no such thing as innocence, only degrees of guilt.
by misterjonez on Jan 29, 2009 11:42 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
This is the closest thing to Nero playing the fiddle while Rome burned I’ll ever get to see.
by Luke Thomas on Jan 30, 2009 12:33 AM EST up reply actions 0 recs
This comment has been brewing in you a while now. All obvious and great points. A masterpiece if you will. But what do you have to say about the fact that Affliction started a fighting org in order to feature there crappy shirts and the entertainment brand was to be a loss leader for the clothing. AND NOW they are talking about giving up a % of a profitable business so they don’t go under. It is ripe for more satire.
You comment is great and has been choi’d by me, but it is like you wrote someones obit before they died and didn’t update it after they kicked it with other stuff they did after you penned the said obituary.
by szucconi on Jan 30, 2009 12:48 AM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Its “Sugar” Shane Mosley.
You have to get someones name right if they have “Sugar” on it. Its the law.
by MMASuPreMaCy on Jan 30, 2009 12:55 AM EST up reply actions 0 recs
+1 for
Alan Belcher’s Johnny Cash tattoo and "hey, we’ve got 90k sitting around, why don’t we hire Paul Buentello to beat up Fedor’s training partner?"
"It's like a flying knuckle sandwich." --Rogan
"And many men have eaten it." -- Goldy
by thetakeover on Jan 30, 2009 10:43 AM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Don't know how credible this is but here is another rumor source.
by mattman73 on Jan 29, 2009 11:06 PM EST reply actions 0 recs
Thats the site Smoogy admins
So if he said it there he’s said it here in the comments. Its a good site – they get some nice exclusive interviews from time to time.
Gimme 1 Round!
by skwirrl on Jan 30, 2009 1:30 AM EST up reply actions 0 recs
themmabooker could be the mmalogic of our forum. Where did I put my tinfoil hat?
by smoogy on Jan 30, 2009 1:43 AM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Right next to mine but they both went missing mysteriously
Seriously the only site where i’ve yet to find shills is NS.net and thats because nobody fuckin respects that place anyways lol
Gimme 1 Round!
by skwirrl on Jan 30, 2009 2:37 AM EST up reply actions 0 recs
For anybody that feels like going
NSFW at that site lol
Gimme 1 Round!
by skwirrl on Jan 30, 2009 2:37 AM EST up reply actions 0 recs
My one hope...
My one hope in all this is that mmalogic isn’t having to massage Kevin Iole’s or Dave Meltzer’s balls to get this info… lol
by Gunslinger20 on Jan 29, 2009 11:09 PM EST reply actions 0 recs
Making the initial estimate of 250,000 buys not even close to what will be needed to break even.
While this is interesting news if true, i’m more interested in the bold part above where is this number from and who came up with it?.
by Raker on Jan 29, 2009 11:41 PM EST reply actions 0 recs
So what?
Why is everyone gettins so pissed at mmalogic? If he is wrong he’s wrong, but I doubt he would post something that has absolutely no truth to it and risk what credibility he has if he didn’t at least believe it to be true. Last week Chris Mortensen reported the Chiefs had Mike Shanahan all but signed, then an hour later he said they were just in talks, now a week later he hasn’t said another word about it and nobody is burning him at the stake, and he was reporting that story as fact. Logic throws up a fanpost clearly labeleld “Rumor” and everybody gets their panties in a wad. Chill out guys.
by ufc4 on Jan 29, 2009 11:47 PM EST reply actions 0 recs
You compared Logic to Mort
Some would construe that to be an insult. Haha
by Blackout612 on Jan 29, 2009 11:52 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Mort is the worst in the business, a weasel…..Schefter is correct 98% of the time when he “breaks” something, Jay Glazer right there about 95% of the time…Mort is about 25% of the time correct, and what ESPN does anyways is once he makes up a story like usual, they have Clayton or Werder report the opposite, then whichever plays out (if mort guessed correct or if werder saying the opposite holds true) they act like “ESPN” had the info all along…
true football fans notice this all the time, especially been bad the past 3 or so years, next time Mort has “breaking” news on ESPN, wait two or so minutes, turn to NFL network and look for Adam Schefter to cut into whatever program is on and say “people are saying this, it won’t happen and isn’t true” then goto foxsports.com and see Glazer saying it also isn’t true.
Mort once said Eli Manning would be out a month, guaranteed it. Schefter said Eli wouldn’t miss a game. That was last season, who was correct?
Mort says Shanahan WILL be the next Chiefs coach, 2 minutes later Schefter and Glazer are both saying he WON’T be the Chiefs coach and its a made up rumor, Mort sticks with his story, next day says how its still possible and they are in talks (schefter says no talks have taken place) then 2 days later Mort isn’t saying anything about it, never admits he was wrong or made it up and is instead giving other names as possible candidates for the job…hah
by Reaser on Jan 30, 2009 8:34 AM EST up reply actions 1 recs
So what you're saying is..
Mort is st00pid? Agreed.
by Blackout612 on Jan 30, 2009 11:46 AM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Pretty much – and as a Broncos fan, the Shanahan to KS rumor fucked with my head. Rec’d.
by subo on Jan 30, 2009 2:39 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
As a Chargers fan, I’m just glad he’s out of the division. The Rat was a good coach.
Bolts from the Blue // "Game over." - Jamal Williams
Bloody Elbow // "Every normal man must be tempted at times to spit upon his hands, hoist the black flag, and begin slitting throats." - H.L. Mencken
by Richard Wade on Jan 30, 2009 2:58 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Damnit all to hell. Shanny got the blame for seven – 7 – of our RB’s going on IR.
Be honest, as a Chargers fan, ya like Norv Turner? Or are you like all the Cowboys fans that hate their head coach?
by subo on Jan 30, 2009 3:37 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
I like Turner. The team couldn’t win one playoff game under Schottenheimer. With the same players, Turner has won three.
Bolts from the Blue // "Game over." - Jamal Williams
Bloody Elbow // "Every normal man must be tempted at times to spit upon his hands, hoist the black flag, and begin slitting throats." - H.L. Mencken
by Richard Wade on Jan 30, 2009 4:08 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
I chalk most of that to Rivers getting better – although I still wouldn’t trade my quarterback for yours.
by subo on Jan 30, 2009 4:13 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Don't piss on Cowboys fans.
Wade is okay, he just doesn’t have control of the team like Jimmy Johnson did back in the day. I don’t hate him. It’s hard to imagine Wade turning things around after the uninspired effort the Cowboys put forth this year. I like Norv Turner, too. I want him to have a good run as a head coach. I wouldn’t have minded seeing him in Dallas working with Romo.
by Cannon Jacques on Jan 30, 2009 9:49 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Turner has done an excellent job with Rivers. It would have been interesting to see what he could do with Romo.
Bolts from the Blue // "Game over." - Jamal Williams
Bloody Elbow // "Every normal man must be tempted at times to spit upon his hands, hoist the black flag, and begin slitting throats." - H.L. Mencken
by Richard Wade on Jan 30, 2009 9:51 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
As a Broncos fan, my undying hatred for Wade Phillips knows no shame. The man went .500 with John Elway in his prime. I hate him.
by subo on Jan 31, 2009 1:17 AM EST up reply actions 0 recs
That’s because the rest of the team sucked. Not because Phillips was the coach.
Bolts from the Blue // "Game over." - Jamal Williams
Bloody Elbow // "Every normal man must be tempted at times to spit upon his hands, hoist the black flag, and begin slitting throats." - H.L. Mencken
by Richard Wade on Jan 31, 2009 1:25 AM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Dan Reeves had better teams, but it’s a far fall from three Super Bowl trips in four years to no playoff trips in two years. McDaniels better come out of the gates fast or he’ll get torn apart.
by subo on Jan 31, 2009 1:41 AM EST up reply actions 0 recs
He has no defense to work with. He’s inheriting a talented offense, though. Most teams initially regress under a new system, though. We’ll see what happens.
Bolts from the Blue // "Game over." - Jamal Williams
Bloody Elbow // "Every normal man must be tempted at times to spit upon his hands, hoist the black flag, and begin slitting throats." - H.L. Mencken
by Richard Wade on Jan 31, 2009 2:36 AM EST up reply actions 0 recs
2.3 Million Reasons
Tim Sylvia’s 36 seconds and Arlovski’s three minutes in the ring with Fedor cost Affliction 2.3 million. What did Fedor make? 600k plus what, $3 million in unreported bonus money funneled through M1? These guys had great intentions- fighters should be making more money than what they do at UFC, but how do you justify $300,000 for Matt Lindland, $500,000 for the Baby Faced Assassin? They may be top level fighters, but they are both boring and have no draw! Giving up PPV percentages with nothing in return to two companies who don’t need charity…it is actually embarrassing how they went about their business. The icing on the cake was letting Jerry/Gary Millen post his blogs and now everyone at Affliction seems not only incompetent but they seem like scumbags too. Good riddance.
by I don't wear mma t-shirts on Jan 29, 2009 11:47 PM EST reply actions 0 recs
I agree with most of your post, but I don’t get the line of thinking that “fighters should be making more money than what they do at UFC.” Fighters only deserve the amount that the market says they do. Everyone who has attempted to pay them more (they need to in order to lure them away from the UFC) has failed in spectacular fashion. Yeah sure, it can be done for a fighter here or there, but not on a wide scale. The UFC has a huge advantage in the exposure and credibility of their product. As long as that remains true, they set the bar on how high fighters’ salaries go. At least they will when promotors realize that they can’t realistically compete with the UFC.
I do sympathize with the fact that undercard fighters are making peanuts. The only thing that will drive salaries upward is the growth of the sport. Despite promotions dropping left and right, I still think the sport is growing- it just might not look like people expected it would.
by BilboMcFonzie on Jan 30, 2009 12:44 AM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Re: Rome's update
Maybe they can give Zuffa Todd Beard’s share of the company.
I’m sorry, but if this ends with Fedor in the UFC and Zuffa owning part of Affliction clothing, the people that hate Dana better run for the hills, because they will be blinded by the smile on his face at the press conference to announce this.
by Phildo on Jan 29, 2009 11:54 PM EST reply actions 0 recs
This could be a win-win
If Affliction gets their clothes back in the octagon it increases thier audience ten-fold from what it is running their own shows, and if the UFC gets $5 from every one of those shirts that is sold then that is just millions more added to their bottom line, not to mention eliminating their #1 competitor from the marketplace (even though it looks like that was gonna happen anyway). Really it seems like this could work out good for both sides, plus it would bring Fedor one step closer to fighting for the UFC and maybe bring back Arlovski.
by ufc4 on Jan 30, 2009 12:15 AM EST reply actions 0 recs
Contracts Are Not Transferable...
So assuming this will mean Fedor in the UFC is still wishful thinking.
Sengoku or DREAM may be pretty happy about this news though.
by MMASuPreMaCy on Jan 30, 2009 12:58 AM EST reply actions 0 recs
Jay Hieron might be looking fondly upon the upcoming DREAM and Sengoku welterweight tournaments.
by SamCupitt on Jan 30, 2009 1:00 AM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Exactly. Bellator, DREAM, and Sengoku can all greatly improve their rosters for tournaments, but I guess it will depend when Affliction is planning on having the 3rd show, if at all.
by MMASuPreMaCy on Jan 30, 2009 1:09 AM EST up reply actions 0 recs
For something a long time coming this has all happened rather suddenly hasn’t it?
I find it hard to believe that they will want to put on a third show having already stated they were done. Kind of reminds me of the IFL’s last August show… that was rescheduled and then never happened. Minus the disastrous “Hex” of course.
Affliction gave us two great events with two great Fedor fights, so I’m not going to launch any futher scathing attacks at their business plan or whatever. They just got too many partners and were eventually sucked dry.
by SamCupitt on Jan 30, 2009 12:59 AM EST reply actions 0 recs
I got to watch Fedor LIVE twice thanks to Affliction, so, I’m a happy mma fan.
by MMASuPreMaCy on Jan 30, 2009 1:11 AM EST up reply actions 0 recs
have you forgotten EliteXC...
Said they were fine and going to put on another card with Lawler vs Villasenor, Alvarez vs Diaz, ‘Feijao’ vs Diabate.. then didn’t. Why add more bricks to a sinking ship??
by bbman182 on Jan 30, 2009 1:22 AM EST up reply actions 0 recs
If true, a bunch of fighters are on edge tonight wondering if they are going to get that final Affliction pay day.
by Jahbulon on Jan 30, 2009 1:20 AM EST reply actions 0 recs
Well if true i hope the talent goes over to japan. MMA needs diversity and japan offers an entirely different perspective than the states. PRIDE started out with just heavyweights, an influx of heavyweight talent is just what the doctor ordered to get the japanese scene up and running.
I can’t think out of the guys Affliction used who would want to go to the UFC. Arlovski and Belfort have interests outside MMA that they want to persue that conflicts with the UFC exlusivity, so they won’t go. The UFC burned it’s bridges with Lindland, Barnett, Fedor, Alexs, Babalu, Soko, Werdum and others, and you can be sure they will never go to there. The only reasonable place seems like japan.
by Donk696 on Jan 30, 2009 1:21 AM EST reply actions 0 recs
Afffliction is done . . .
Wow, I feel sorry for Tom . . . how bad do you have it when you’re a guest on Tom Lekyis?
Smart of Zuffa asking for a piece of the t-shirt business to let them back in but I don’t think that will happen. UFC needs the sponsorship dollars because of the {expletive} economy, but it’s always wise to try to take advantage of the situation.
If Affliction really needs to cut bait and put on a third show to fulfill there contract w/partners I suggest a Brett Cooper main event on HDNet next month. It will interesting to see who will come into the UFC fold and who will not. Also, can we say MMA union attempt in Dec 2009?
by bignerd on Jan 30, 2009 1:26 AM EST reply actions 0 recs
fighters follow the paycheck
Fedor is just about the only one of the Affliction fighters that no longer worries about the paycheck… just the legacy.. which he could further solidify in the UFC. Babalu will come back.. Werdum needs big wins to get back in the picture.. Vitor loves money and attention and is on good terms with the UFC.. if Affliction does pursue the 3rd show.. Barnett will be demolished by Fedor in my opinion.. that wouldn’t leave him being desired by the UFC no matter what terms they are on. Just hope the Russians get on board (Russians = Fedor, Aleks, Mousasi, Magomedov, Khalidov, Schlmenko)
2009/2010 Wishlist
Fedor v Randy
Fedor v Brock
Mousasi v A. Silva
Vitor v A. Silva
Babalu v Rua 2
Rogerio v Rua 2
Rogerio v Franklin
Rogerio v Liddell
Rogerio v
by bbman182 on Jan 30, 2009 1:32 AM EST reply actions 0 recs
Fedor will go back to Japan
Because he wants to fight in Dream on NYE
Gimme 1 Round!
by skwirrl on Jan 30, 2009 1:34 AM EST up reply actions 0 recs
One less place for Fitch to go to once Dana blows him out next week.
by dualdiagnosis on Jan 30, 2009 1:34 AM EST reply actions 0 recs
Sherdog says this is a lie . . .
Went over to the Sherdog forum. A poster there claims Atencio is on a radio show right now dispelling this rumor as false and says he was never Tom Lekyis.
by bignerd on Jan 30, 2009 1:39 AM EST reply actions 0 recs
Anyone heard of HARDCORE SPORTS RADIO? That is the show the poster claims Tom is on. Also, claims that the podcast needs to be checked on the Tom Lekyis show.
I’m still learning towards Logic’s story but wanted to point this is still out there.
by bignerd on Jan 30, 2009 1:43 AM EST up reply actions 0 recs
hardcore is a real station and he was on there. The Leykis thing was evidently bullshit.
by smoogy on Jan 30, 2009 1:45 AM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Very weird story for a poster to make up.
by Michael Rome on Jan 30, 2009 1:46 AM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Everything about this situation is weird. But Atencio says he was never on that show. To quote from a UG thread:
"Atencio is on hardcore sports radio with Gabe Morency right now. He is saying the rumors are complete fabrications, that he recently talked with Golden Boy and they are investing huge money into Affliction’s mma promotion and that Affliction mma will be around for many, many years. He went on to say he has never been on the Tom Leykis show, people are bored and making up lies, and that Affliction will be around for a long, long time.
Gabe brought up the fact that mma fans make him laugh because they are the only fans who care as much about ticket sales, ppv buys and promoters money as they do good fights. (great point)
Atencio said there is a sitdown in the next few weeks with Trump and Golden Boy, and they are going to announce a plan to host fights every 3 or 4 months. He said Golden Boy and Trump invested A LOT of money into the company that people do know about. He said he loves the hate because it means he’s doing something right if people are talking, it’s only their second event, and they will be around for many years as a legitimate thread about the UFC. He thinks Zuffa is spreading the rumors because they are worried, as they are with cross promotion."
That certainly sounds way more in line with the recent reports about Affliction’s better than expected PPV performance.
by smoogy on Jan 30, 2009 2:00 AM EST up reply actions 0 recs
I’m listening to the audio right now. He says apparently someone was on Leykis and pretended to be him?
by Michael Rome on Jan 30, 2009 2:01 AM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Ouch.. -1
Please say fuck toast next time.
by Blackout612 on Jan 30, 2009 11:49 AM EST up reply actions 0 recs
‘French bitch’ doesn’t really work – sounds like you’re referring to someone in particular
by subo on Jan 30, 2009 2:39 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
the thing in general about promotions denying the end is even IFL and Bodog and just about everyone completely denies any problems until the day it’s all over. It’s hard to know when to take that seriously.
by Michael Rome on Jan 30, 2009 1:47 AM EST up reply actions 0 recs
My guess is not to alert the fighters in anyway right?
by The Bronzeville Bully on Jan 30, 2009 1:58 AM EST up reply actions 0 recs
It’s just that death spirals happen real fast. You say something that makes people think its all over, and it just makes the collapse happen faster and for real.
This is one of those stories that we’ll have to probably wait and see to find out if it’s true. The story itself expects a third show and that’s it.
by Michael Rome on Jan 30, 2009 2:01 AM EST up reply actions 0 recs
mmalogic’s report never cited the Leykis show, this part was added on by another poster.
Affliction probably did call UFC. Who knows? They did after their 1st event, maybe it was to bargain a better deal this time around. As always, the truth usually lies somewhere in the middle.
by bignerd on Jan 30, 2009 2:06 AM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Yeah his report wasn’t based on that. That report just seemed to add credence to it.
I suppose the next thing is wait and hear from logic.
by Michael Rome on Jan 30, 2009 2:08 AM EST up reply actions 0 recs
It seems like two, perhaps three sources of info:
- mmalogic
- The Leykis show (perhaps what logic were logic got his info from, or at least the same root source for both)
- Rome’s source
The more (separate) sources the more likely this thing is accurate.
"I see him beating Anderson Silva. I see him picking him apart. Him at a 131 years old...(trails off)." - Tito on Belfort at Affliction:DOR
by Rundownloser on Jan 30, 2009 2:13 AM EST up reply actions 0 recs
The END of WAMMA
This is the bigger story…. When Affliction does go down, all the WAMMA parasites that tried to steal the UFC’s hard earned investment in making one belt per division that ‘really’ meant something, will make a thud heard nowhere around the world.
Affliction just putting on shows is/was admirable… Affliction trying to promote World Championship belts and dilute the entire sport into a boxing scenario of multiple belts with no real juice is altogether a different beast. I hope Affliction dies hard, fast and ugly and sends a message that resonates with impunity.
I live in Fiji… there are no Affliction T-Shirts here… but i can tell you in my last trip to the States this Xmas, I saw plenty of Affliction shirts selling for 25-40% in bargain stores. The end is near for the skull and gothic wear clothier.
Whether or not Affliction folds just yet, the ‘real’ day of reckoning is coming sooner as opposed to later. Fedor’s silly management will resort to once again fighting Ho He Huge and other UFC castoffs in Japan or finally step up against the best and reap endorsement opportunities that will dwarf his fight purses.
Dana and his mafioso policies will NEVER allow Affliction back in the fold “dat would be bad for f’ing business” So it will be soon time to say goodbye to the sinking S.S. Affliction
and watch Atencio join the banquet line with Gary Shaw for the $8.99 all you can eat meal deal in order to stay on a personal budget at the end of the month. Quite a fall from his Vegas style schtick.
Their shows did have some entertainment value… too bad they wanted the slice of pie they had no right to eat. So when it happens I will say, “good riddance to bad rubbish”
Cheers Mates
by Stevefiji on Jan 30, 2009 2:20 AM EST reply actions 0 recs
The audio of Tom Atencio’s interview on Hardcore Sports Radio here.
"I see him beating Anderson Silva. I see him picking him apart. Him at a 131 years old...(trails off)." - Tito on Belfort at Affliction:DOR
by Rundownloser on Jan 30, 2009 2:28 AM EST reply actions 0 recs
Hmmm...I wonder where it came from???
“It’s a complete lie,” Atencio said. “I don’t know where it came from.”
by MMASuPreMaCy on Jan 30, 2009 4:33 AM EST reply actions 0 recs
Soon after our interview with Atencio, the Affliction executive also appeared on Hardcore Sports Radio’s “Thursday Night Throwdown” program on SiriusXM. He told host Gabe Morency that there’s no truth to reports he’s been in contact with UFC officials about a possible shutdown.
“I know (UFC President) Dana White’s phone number, I know Dana, and he knows me,” Atencio said. "That’s about the extent of it. … Have I spoken to Dana? Yes. Have I recently? No. Have I called him to give him (our) fighters? No.
“I’m not going under.”
by MMASuPreMaCy on Jan 30, 2009 4:34 AM EST reply actions 0 recs
Obviously he's going to deny it
Whether or not it’s true – because of leverage. I personally hope that they don’t go under – but I’m not ‘in the know’.
by rainmaker6 on Jan 30, 2009 4:41 AM EST reply actions 0 recs
*breathes sigh of relief
I was bummed when I saw this last night before I went to bed and thought for sure this would be verified to be true by this morning, yet I see Affliction denies FTW!!! Why would anyone want them to go down? If you’re an MMA fan you’re an MMA fan, not just of the UFC.
by xFenixKnightx on Jan 30, 2009 8:53 AM EST reply actions 1 recs
No offense intended,
But I fucking hate it when people say “if you’re an MMA fan, then…” type crap. The only prerequisite for being an MMA fan is that you like to watch MMA fights. Even if you want Affliction to fail, you aren’t any less of a mixed martial arts fan.
"I see him beating Anderson Silva. I see him picking him apart. Him at a 131 years old...(trails off)." - Tito on Belfort at Affliction:DOR
by Rundownloser on Jan 30, 2009 1:40 PM EST up reply actions 7 recs
Reccedy rec rec'd
You’re not less of an MMA fan than me because you disagree with me as to the best path for the sport’s future.
And vice versa.
by subo on Jan 30, 2009 2:41 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
If ZUFFA swallows everything
all you will have is Tuffers and underpaid feeder fighters while the really talented guys get blackballed.
Gimme 1 Round!
by skwirrl on Jan 30, 2009 5:34 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Your saying it does not make it true.
by Michaelthebox on Jan 30, 2009 6:39 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
What happened to Hansen?
Riddle me this riddle me that.
“Dana can go pound sand up his ass”
Gimme 1 Round!
by skwirrl on Jan 31, 2009 5:21 AM EST up reply actions 0 recs
He wanted more money than he’s worth to Zuffa. That does not = blackballed.
by Michaelthebox on Jan 31, 2009 4:05 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Wrong
He had a contract – ZUFFA said we’ll pay you half of it. Then when he said no they locked him out for over a year. Thats bullshit. You can’t hold people hostage while forcibly renegotiating legitimate contracts. You can say ok we’ll finish this up then you’re on your own or no we’re not going to honor your contract we’re tearing it up. You can’t say you’ll sign this contract at 50% of your old rate or we’ll prevent you from working anywhere for a year.
Strong arm business tactics like that are right out of the old mafia playbook that Frank the first wrote
Gimme 1 Round!
by skwirrl on Feb 1, 2009 10:20 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
You’re right, they could instead follow the tradition of PRIDE and DREAM and have him fight and then “forget” to pay him.
Damn that maniacal ZUFFA!
"I see him beating Anderson Silva. I see him picking him apart. Him at a 131 years old...(trails off)." - Tito on Belfort at Affliction:DOR
by Rundownloser on Feb 2, 2009 12:35 AM EST up reply actions 0 recs
From what I’ve heard of Hansen, he said that once he asked them to release him from his contract they released him.
by ilostmydog on Feb 2, 2009 1:03 AM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Wow, once again Bloody Elbow gives credibility to absolute crap info...
http://themmafiend.com/2009/01/29/rumor-squasher-atencio-say-affliction-not-done/
Come On bloodyelbow…you are as bad as Perezhilton.com…
Wags
by DocWagner on Jan 30, 2009 11:01 AM EST reply actions 0 recs
Why does whatever Attencio say become 100% fact, but every other word out of Dana’s mouth is a lie?
by Phildo on Jan 30, 2009 11:20 AM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Well because
pretty much every word out of Dana’s mouth IS a lie. Thats one reason. Tom’s crediblity certainly isn’t that high. But he’s just not as low as Dana’s is. Tom Attencio hasn’t tried to convince me that GSP isn’t a top 5 WW.
Gimme 1 Round!
by skwirrl on Jan 30, 2009 5:35 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
He did try to convince you that Gilbert Yvel is someone who hardcore fans should be excited about because he has ‘all the tattoos.’
by ilostmydog on Jan 30, 2009 5:51 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
I was interested
Because I knew he would kill Barnett standing up and I wondered if he had perhaps gotten some TD defense. If you had watched you would have seen I was right too. Barnett was not standing AT ALL with Gilbert. Unfortunately he still can’t stop a TD and his ground game was never gonna be able to handle Josh. But he had an honorable showing for himself. He got the living shit beat outta him on his back for 3 full rounds before finally throwing in the towel
Gimme 1 Round!
by skwirrl on Jan 31, 2009 5:26 AM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Thrown in the towel?
He tapped out due to strikes at the last minute of the third round. And as the Cabbage Patch kid says, “You’re a bitch if you tap out due to strikes.”
I don’t know what happened to Banett too. He’s should’ve been able to finish Yvel in the first round. In the second round as well. Those submission attempts at the dying seconds of the first two rounds was just overly sloppy, not what I expect from him. Although, he could’ve done those attempts just to rack points with the judges.
Atencio and White are promoters, one would expect half-truths, half-lies and whole mouthful of hyperbole from these guys.
by Johann on Jan 31, 2009 1:12 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
If you think we manufacture our work or don’t do due diligence or don’t properly couch information, go somewhere else.
by Luke Thomas on Jan 30, 2009 12:28 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
I’d like to see some tangible numbers on the buy rate. That said.. I sincerely hope that Affliction does well enough to stay around. Adversely, I hope that they aren’t too proud to pack it in if they’re hemorrhaging cash (both with lack of profit and the total submission of any real residuals to their "partners"). Pride has dealt the killing blow to many a business..
by Blackout612 on Jan 30, 2009 11:57 AM EST reply actions 0 recs
LOL
Attencio also came out saying he had to “open up more seating” because ticket sales were so good for Day of Reckoning.
Give it a week or so my furry friends…
by mmalogic on Jan 30, 2009 1:50 PM EST reply actions 0 recs
We’ll see. You’ve got my attention.
by Luke Thomas on Jan 30, 2009 1:56 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
What does it feel like to start a shitstorm? :-)
"I see him beating Anderson Silva. I see him picking him apart. Him at a 131 years old...(trails off)." - Tito on Belfort at Affliction:DOR
by Rundownloser on Jan 30, 2009 1:57 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
I don’t care about affliction. Everyone knew the end was near. What I want to know is, why does your woman call you logic?
by szucconi on Jan 30, 2009 2:16 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
She calls you “lol”? That’s not a good sign, man.
"I'm AJB and I endorse this nut-puncher."
by AJB on Jan 30, 2009 3:00 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
I take it there is nothing to add to the story?
by bignerd on Jan 30, 2009 4:05 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
No shit, but it’s only cool for your woman to call you by your internet handle if your internet handle is your name or something like Horsecock, or Stalion, or something more descriptive that she might call you while not knowing it was your handle.
by szucconi on Jan 31, 2009 1:03 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
I’m guessing they were in some Sim’s room or somewhere in Oz world when that conversation happened.
by Johann on Jan 31, 2009 1:14 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
You, for one, have my complete confidence. Or you’ve got balls the size of oranges to make this up :-)
The next question, of course, is which fighters will be moving directly from Affliction to Zuffa?
by subo on Jan 30, 2009 2:43 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
How about none since contracts are not transferable and would all be free agents to all lpromotions?
by MMASuPreMaCy on Jan 30, 2009 3:08 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Dude. I know it wouldn’t be transferred. I’m asking what Affliction fighters, as free agents, would sign with Zuffa.
by subo on Jan 30, 2009 3:38 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
http://www.fightopinion.com/2009/01/29/is-mmalogic-connected-to-zuffa/
LOL
by MMASuPreMaCy on Jan 30, 2009 3:10 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
^
The best thread on this website is not on this website!
by bignerd on Jan 30, 2009 4:20 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
The idea of Zuffa having someone post on blogs to try and manipulate things has me rolling, yea because starting rumors in fanpost is really going to bring Affliction down. Lets face it they don’t need to do anything to get people on the internet to take up sides and argue stories back and forth that happens naturally but the internet fans are just a small part of MMA fans. I guess that is part of what makes all this so fun.
by who me on Jan 31, 2009 1:26 AM EST up reply actions 1 recs
Yah cheapseats
If you really knew as much as you’d say you’d look at it the same way as WEC 34 who had to open the upper deck. The only difference was Affliction had to open more seats because nobody would buy 500 dollar tickets
Gimme 1 Round!
by skwirrl on Jan 30, 2009 5:36 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
They may not be done today, but they can’t continue running things like this and barely breaking even. Fact is, UFC has a monopoly on US viewership right now and I don’t see that changing anytime soon.
by lbk on Jan 30, 2009 2:41 PM EST reply actions 0 recs
Man get caught in a natural disaster and miss all the fun.
by who me on Jan 31, 2009 1:22 AM EST reply actions 0 recs
I live in Western Kentucky . We are in a hotel because there is no power at our house (the hotel just got power yesterday).
by who me on Jan 31, 2009 2:10 AM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Oh damn, was just talking to a friend who has no power in Tennessee. In central Virginia we just got a really nice snowfall from that storm. Damn that really sucks for everyone hit hard =(
by iiowyn on Jan 31, 2009 3:16 AM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Ah, so I guess this thread is a fail?
Well, its been a month since this prediction and no announcement. We have seen the (rumoured) signing of Din Thomas to a multifight deal by Affliction which suggests that no announcement is coming at all. So, what happened? mmalogic? Were you misinformed? Did Tom change his mind about pulling out? Did early ppv reports prove to be a poor estimate of the total? Was it simply a Zuffa-initiated rumour to discredit Affliction and quell the apparent positivity surrounding the success of DOR?? Give us something.
by GeeDub on Mar 1, 2009 9:38 AM EST reply actions 0 recs
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