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Bloody Elbow Judo Chop: The Front Kick, or How Georges St. Pierre Can Beat B.J. Penn

Joshthomsonkicks_mediumThis is the first speculative Judo Chop, but I've been thinking about it for a long time. Since June 27 of last year to be exact.

That's when Josh Thomson beat Gilbert Melendez to take the Strikeforce Lightweight title. I was blown away by the method Thomson used to beat Melendez: the front kick (not pictured, I couldnt' find a nice still shot of Josh using the front kick).

Its not that flashy a technique, nor is it much of a fight finisher. Its also not a technique we've seen a great deal of in MMA. It's quite common in Muy Thai where it functions essentially as a jab and is called a "teep kick", often the most thrown strike in a fight.

In MMA the low round kick to the legs has been very common, but the front kick is a rarity. Thomson made a strong case in his fight against Melendez that the front kick has a place in the arsenal. He didn't open the fight with it, but by the second round, Thomson was using the front kick to keep Melendez out of punching range and effectively nullified his game.

What does this have to do with beating B.J. Penn? Simple, like Gilbert Melendez, B.J. eschews the kicking game. In fact, his training manual (which is excellent btw) doesn't feature a single offensive kick. Both Penn and Melendez are good boxers who have elected to focus their time on honing fewer striking techniques to a higher level of polish. Its a logical decision, if you can present a striking threat standing with just your hands, why mess with learning a whole new batch of techniques -- high risk ones at that.

3234979547_275d43a948_mediumIn the first decade of MMA, throwing kicks was seen as risky, virtually inviting the takedown. But Thomson used the front kick to keep Melendez out of punching range. And since Melendez usually shoots in behind his looping lead lefts, keeping him out of punching range thoroughly stifled his formidable wrestling game.

B.J. Penn is clearly more dangerous on his feet than Melendez, but his offensive wrestling game isn't as strong. If GSP wants to thoroughly put B.J. off his game, I recommend leading with the front kick to keep him on his heels, outside his punching range, where GSP can wear him down on the feet before taking the fight to the ground.

As pictured, it was a key part of Anderson Silva's victory over Dan Henderson. Silva didn't just use the front kick to keep Henderson out of clinch range, he used it to damage Henderson. Silva also didn't wait to use the front kick, he opened with it in the first round, right to the throat, and went back to it in the second. Silva talks about the front kick in his instruction manual. For an ambidextrous fighter like Silva, the front kick gives a perfect opportunity to switch stances and follow up with more strikes.

I don't recall seeing GSP throw many front kicks, relying more on round kicks to the legs. I'd wager he's thrown more spinning back kicks than front kicks in his MMA career, but I'd like to see the numbers.

Nevertheless, the technique is there and B.J. Penn is the perfect fighter to use it on. He doesn't incorporate kicks into his game, rarely shoots for a takedown from distance and is very very dangerous in close and in the clinch.

Listen to me Georges, if you want to win, keep B.J. back with damaging front kicks until you wear him down, then you can take him down and grind out a decision or even score a TKO.

Scads of gifs from the Thomson fight in the full entry.

About the name of this feature: I chose Judo Chop because it’s an utter misnomer that is sometimes used by poorly informed MMA commentators during fights. It’s also from the Austin Powers movie. I chose it because it reflects my own lack of expertise and what this column is: my stumbling along in the dark trying to get a handle on the technical aspects of the fights. The techniques featured here will sometimes involve judo but not always. Sorry if that's confusing.

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This might be too many gifs for one page, so forgive me. Gifs by Chris Nelson.

Thomson-kick-1_medium
Here we see Josh throwing a rear front kick (that's a confusing name but it means he's throwing the kick with his rear leg) to Gilbert's head.

Note he lands with his heel rather than the ball of his foot. TKD stylists land the kick with both the ball and the heel. Anderson Silva started out in TKD and you see it in the pic of him kicking Henderson, landing with both the ball and heel of his foot.

 

 

Thomson-kick-3_mediumHere we see the lead front kick to the body.  Thomson used this throughout the fight the way an offense will run the fullback up the middle behind a powerful guard who's just crushing the defensive line.

Gilbert can't even get fully into his boxing stance before he's pushed back out of range again.

 

 

 

Thomson-kick-4_mediumHere Josh uses a lead front kick to get himself out of trouble when Gilbert has him backed against the cage and is throwing combinations.

The kick forces Melendez back and lets Thomson get off the cage and out of danger. That happened throughout the fight.

 

 

 

Thomson-takedown_medium This last one shows how late in the fight, Thomson is using the threat of the front kick to back Melendez up and once he's back peddling, take him down.

I'd love to see a FightMetric of this fight, I'd like to know how many front kicks Thomson landed in this fight. He really ran over Melendez with this technique. Its not anything fancy, just a straight shot up the middle.

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So true. The front kick is such a great tool, and you can work off of it.

by Kaleb Kelchner on Jan 28, 2009 10:46 PM EST reply actions  

i agree. the front kick is awesome.

BUUUT……here’s what happens if you throw a lazy front kick, or if your opponent sees it coming. haha.

by funkyfetus on Jan 29, 2009 1:50 AM EST up reply actions   1 recs

Cung actually threw a lot of side kicks in that fight. It works much in the same way as a front kick does, but arguably requires greater speed and skill to throw in a MMA environment.

by Flying Gogoplata on Jan 29, 2009 2:17 AM EST up reply actions  

If the front kick is a jab, I’d consider the side kick more like a hook or an uppercut — more of a power shot but riskier and not one you want to throw without setting up. Unless you’re Cung Le of course.

by Kid Nate on Jan 29, 2009 8:59 AM EST up reply actions  

You can’t defend Le’s kicks. They’re just too fast.

by cyph on Jan 29, 2009 10:49 AM EST up reply actions  

Tim Boetsch used it to great effect in his fight against David Heath as well.

by brad23 on Jan 28, 2009 10:55 PM EST reply actions  

oh yeah! I forgot about that fight. That’s the night Goldberg learned to say “teep” and wouldn’t stop saying it.

by Kid Nate on Jan 28, 2009 11:03 PM EST up reply actions  

I remember Gina Carano using front kicks to really frustrating Kaitlyn Young by keeping her at a distance where Gina could pick her apart. Arlovski used one effectively against Fedor just before he went for the flying knee and got knocked out. I thought he was really getting into a groove at that point. The rest is history.

I like this “speculative” edition.

by Cannon Jacques on Jan 28, 2009 10:55 PM EST reply actions   1 recs

those were just cruel.

by Kid Nate on Jan 29, 2009 12:00 AM EST up reply actions  

For some reason, I just didn’t remember her using front kicks as much against Kobald. Young had a similar reach and likes the Thai clinch, so I think they were more important in that one. Gina just looks like she’s just being mean to Kelly in that gif. Say what you will about her. From a technical standpoint Gina’s a pretty damn good striker.

by Cannon Jacques on Jan 29, 2009 12:14 AM EST up reply actions  

She is a better striker than a lot of UFC fighters, to be sure.

by smoogy on Jan 29, 2009 12:19 AM EST up reply actions  

Sad

but true. Probably a better striker than Sengoku’s LW champion for the matter… And Dream’s #1 contender if Hanson is deemed the champ.

Gimme 1 Round!

by skwirrl on Jan 29, 2009 12:55 AM EST up reply actions  

The teep was having a good run in that couple of months.

by bigweeze on Jan 29, 2009 12:56 AM EST up reply actions  

Teep finished Kimbo

or at least set up the finish. No muay thai strikes!

Gimme 1 Round!

by skwirrl on Jan 29, 2009 1:08 AM EST up reply actions  

I've always wondered why front kicks weren't used more

When I was younger and training in martial arts I was able to knock grown men holding full sized pads back two or three steps with a back leg front kick. It really is a very strong strike if it lands although its pretty hard to keep solid balance if you miss.

by Day Man on Jan 28, 2009 10:59 PM EST reply actions  

I think because martial artists who trained front kicks as an integral part of their style didn’t have the wrestling skills to get into MMA or if they did, didn’t get to show off what they could do since they were busy getting taken down and submitted or pounded out.
And the wrestlers and JJ guys were busy learning how to throw round kicks to the legs.
Royce Gracie did have a front kick he would throw out there, but it was just to close distance so he could get to the clinch and unleash one of his trip takedowns.

by Kid Nate on Jan 28, 2009 11:02 PM EST up reply actions  

Times they are a changing. I’m really stoked to watch the evolution of the sport.

by Day Man on Jan 29, 2009 1:08 AM EST up reply actions  

It takes far more skill since it’s a slower, more powerful move. There are many defense and reversals against kicks as well which makes it dangerous (see CroCop/Gonzaga). However, utilized by a true artist like Cung Le, it’s quite devastating. Maybe we’ll see a young Cung Le show up in the next 10 years.

by cyph on Jan 29, 2009 10:51 AM EST up reply actions  

I think GSP is more likely to win by taking down Penn and holding him there.

Bolts from the Blue // "Game over." - Jamal Williams
Bloody Elbow // "Every normal man must be tempted at times to spit upon his hands, hoist the black flag, and begin slitting throats." - H.L. Mencken

by Richard Wade on Jan 28, 2009 11:06 PM EST reply actions   1 recs

I think he’s going to win, too. I’m rooting for Penn, but I think St. Pierre is going to win.

Bolts from the Blue // "Game over." - Jamal Williams
Bloody Elbow // "Every normal man must be tempted at times to spit upon his hands, hoist the black flag, and begin slitting throats." - H.L. Mencken

by Richard Wade on Jan 29, 2009 1:34 AM EST up reply actions  

Nice article and interesting perspective.

It’s an interesting tactic, and it could be beneficial to GSP. Especially because as we saw in the first fight, BJ was constantly coming forward and making GSP engage while backpedalling. The front kick could keep BJ at bay.

Contributing writer for MMA-Analyst.com

by Joe Schmitt on Jan 28, 2009 11:10 PM EST reply actions  

Silly Sally!

There can NEVER be too many gifs! Especially Timmy getting zulu’d :)

GSP by way of everything!

by xFenixKnightx on Jan 28, 2009 11:14 PM EST reply actions  

u silly sally!

GSP might win, but not by everything. He’s good, but Penn has him in a few areas.

by missmanners on Jan 28, 2009 11:46 PM EST up reply actions  

Interesting stuff as always. I really like that last Thomson gif, I think it came right at the end of the 3rd or 4th.

And this one:

by Chris Nelson on Jan 28, 2009 11:42 PM EST reply actions  

yeah if I hadn’t already used so many I would’ve posted that one too — I like the way Thomson measures the range with his right hand.

by Kid Nate on Jan 28, 2009 11:59 PM EST up reply actions  

The front kick was effective, but Thomson beat Milendez by throwing an incredible variety of strikes at him to deny advances – body kicks and front kicks probably being throw the most, but also a lot of inside leg kicks, knees, and even a nice spinning heel kick. I think he must have watched a lot of tape and realized Gil barely ever catches kicks. I think you’re right to an extent that using these kind of techniques will benefit GSP, but Penn certainly knows how to catch a kick and return fire.

P.S. Thanks for giving me a reason to re-watch that fight, it was probably the best 155lb match on American soil last year

P.P.S. Some GIFs that suck less

by smoogy on Jan 29, 2009 12:16 AM EST reply actions  

good points Smoog

But I can’t do a judo chop on “an incredible variety of strikes”.

by Kid Nate on Jan 29, 2009 9:01 AM EST up reply actions  

Hong Man Choi has great front kicks

Now if he could only get that whole punching thing down, he’d be a force.

by Derek Suboticki on Jan 29, 2009 12:27 AM EST reply actions  

I don’t have nearly enough striking experience to comment too much, but it sounds plausible. Great article.

"I see him beating Anderson Silva. I see him picking him apart. Him at a 131 years old...(trails off)." - Tito on Belfort at Affliction:DOR

by Rundownloser on Jan 29, 2009 12:51 AM EST reply actions  

I’ve always been an advocate for the front kick.

I think GSP needs this because there is no way for him to stop Penn from marching him down otherwise. If he tries to jab, Penn will eat a shot and plow forwards countering with a big shot of his own and with GSP’s chin it is not wise to trade blows with Penn. And seriously, is Penn really going to take GSP down? It’s not a worry. These guys both have some of the most phenomenal TDD in MMA in totally different styles. Penn is also a pretty stationary target so I would imagine there isn’t much chance of being caught off balance while whiffing on this.

I haven’t seen many Jackson camp fighters use this though, not even Cerrone vs. Varner and he was 25-0 as a kickboxer.

by bigweeze on Jan 29, 2009 1:01 AM EST reply actions  

Oh, and I think this is one of your best posts in this series so far.

by bigweeze on Jan 29, 2009 1:02 AM EST reply actions  

The front kick is an amazing weapon that I’m really sad to see not used often in MMA. Coming from a traditional Karate background, GSP should be using it no problem.

by bloodmoney on Jan 29, 2009 1:36 AM EST reply actions  

Yeah man. It’s so underused. It’s the perfect weapon for someone with the longer reach to keep their opponent at bay. BJ’s boxing won’t be a factor if GSP can keep him on the outside.

by pud333 on Jan 29, 2009 1:40 AM EST up reply actions  

Great post—made me sign up for an account.

Normally when an MMA fighter lifts his leg up, he does it to throw a round kick. Not only does Thomson’s liberal use of the front kick throw that equation out of whack, but, because of the way he initiates them, the two types of kicks are almost indistinguishable.

by JBenjamin on Jan 29, 2009 1:40 AM EST reply actions  

Great Post

I definitely think the front kick is an under utilized weapon. But there are so many in MMA!

Side kicks are ridiculously underutilized.

Btw – it’s really easy to break someone’s knee cap with a side kick – odd that it isn’t used more in mma. As far as I understand it’s not against the rules – but perhaps there exists a gentleman’s code of sorts?

by rainmaker6 on Jan 29, 2009 2:44 AM EST reply actions  

awwww, thanks man!

by Kid Nate on Jan 29, 2009 9:03 AM EST up reply actions  

A well written and well thought out article. i’ve always thought of the front kick as an effective weapon, especially for the street. It’s good to see it coming to the forefront in MMA. Everything comes full circle eventually. The basic moves from traditional martial arts are starting to become effective in MMA, and it’s probably because no one is used to seeing those techniques any more.

by Cmad77 on Jan 29, 2009 8:23 AM EST reply actions  

The front kick

is another one of those tactics that I am constantly suprised that more people haven’t added to their arsenal.

Other guy have a reach advantage? His arms are probably not longer than your legs.

by Razreshat on Jan 29, 2009 9:12 AM EST reply actions  

Fantastic Post

I think the front kick doesn’t get the love it deserves. All the fights that I have recently noticed it used in are already commented upon but I’ll never forget Boestch using those kicks. That’s when I really noticed what a great and effective strike it is. Big props to you on this one Kid.

by dedstrk316 on Jan 29, 2009 3:03 PM EST reply actions  

Awesome thought provoking article!

Front kick might be an effective strategy for frank mir to use against brock lesnar to keep him at distance?

by grb on Jan 29, 2009 5:37 PM EST reply actions  

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