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Maybe it’s not all doom and gloom in the land of gaudy t-shirts

The majority of people on this site have been overwhelmingly negative toward afflictions business model. I was on the fence, the salaries look to be huge and PPV buy rates not enough to capitalise the project. On the other hand I think UFC dominance will only last so long, affliction might crack the market or keep just about in the black and glean profit from increased t-shirt sales.

One fanpost has already discussed why it could, long term, be profitable for a affliction to take a large hit now, i.e. the promotions game is an aggressive marketing campaign.

mmapayout, in an article titled Affliction’s Day of Reckoning May Be Further Away Than Anticipated, expand on the point made by HonorableJudgeIto.

Out of the 125 million in annual sales the MMA brand alone accounts for about $25-35 million, that obviously does not include people buying t-shirts due to exposure at MMA events that are not part of afflictions MMA brand. The figure of t-shirt sales related to MMA is probably somewhat higher, but even sticking to this figure you are looking at around $10-14 million in profit from MMA. Added to this “the company believes that these events help sell those shirts. Large sales spikes have been reported around both of its events”.

This makes the loses forecasted by journalists and fans alike on events seem less danming.

With regard to fighter payroll, part of the wage surely covers the fact that they are draped in affliction apparel in the build up to the fight. Also, it may include a contract for a particular fighter’s line of t-shirts. To sponsor every fighter on a card would be quite a hefty bill. I know this is speculation, but is a logical conclusion to come to give the size of the fighter’s payroll.

With Golden Boy promotions and the Trumps involved the promotion gaining media attention and access to considerable business acumen. De La Hoya and Trump also provide a nice image booster, similar to the boost provided by putting an affliction t-shirt on “Rampage” Jackson. They are sponsored to make the company look good. When a fan sees Golden Boy a great promoter + Trump a great business man, they can trust the product being sold.

As a result of the 5 million comment by Larry Merchant we have got an even grater insight into the make up of GB’s relationship with affliction. See these articles for more details: mmajunkie and sherdog. This quote sums it up:

 “Affliction] in turn, he said, would then cover all expenses, including paying the purses of the fighters and marketing the event. Golden Boy’s end of the deal, Schaefer said, would be to run the operational side of things and arrange for licensing, handle the fighters’ medicals, book the venues and deal with the relevant state athletic commissions. Affliction Entertainment does not have a promoter’s license.

Golden Boy also promised to make De La Hoya available to help market and promote the events.”

On the bases of what I have been reading lately it looks as though there may be life in affliction yet. The deals with GB and Trump seem to make sense and articles on sherdog and mmapayout seem to indicate that PPV sales were stronger then expected, although it’s too early to say for sure. Schaefer states in the sherdog article that affliction have put up $5 million for the event. If you take away $500k they would have spent on sponsoring a similar event to this level and the $1.5 million live gate, this would mean they need to hit $3 million in PPV sales to break even. If the PPV provider takes 50%, that means about 130k buys. If the reports are true this would not be beyond the bounds of reason. I know my figures are very simple, but what they do show is that it would not be outlandish to claim that DOR, overall, has done enough business to warrant a third outing by affliction. I have also not factored t-shirt sales into the analysis, these could add substantially to profit. So maybe it’s not all doom and gloom in the land of gaudy t-shirts.

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If they aren’t planning another show for at least 6 months, I see that as a bad sign.

Even if they do make it, they are going to need to put on 5-6 shows per year to be any kind of relevant, imo. I hope they can and keep improving as well.

2 shows a year is just an infomercial about bad t-shirts, again, imo. We may get to see some good fights, and I am all for that, but i prefer relevance.

sham-WOW.

If you're not submitting, you're just rolling around with another guy.

by BJJDenver on Jan 28, 2009 11:11 AM EST reply actions   0 recs

If you're not submitting, you're just rolling around with another guy.

by BJJDenver on Jan 28, 2009 11:26 AM EST up reply actions   0 recs

HAHA Vince!

He does a commercial for the slap chop it has some equally good quotes. My favorite being “your’e gonna love my nuts”. Funny shit.

by nitro on Jan 28, 2009 12:47 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

“frettucine, linguini, martini, bikini.”

Yeah, who got the final Death Blow? 'Cause I thought that Hawaiian guy had it comin' to him. - C. K.

by monkeyfightclub! on Jan 28, 2009 7:57 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

LOL! Sham-WOW

That guy could sell shit in a bag.

“You folowing this camera guy?”

“We are gonna give you two for the price of one but only if you call in the next 10 minutes cause we can’t do this all day.”

“This (holds up traditional sponge) lasts 2 weeks. This (holds up shammy) lasts 10 years! It sells itself!”

"Stop smiling you are about to be punched in the face !"

by Warhand on Jan 28, 2009 12:18 PM EST reply actions   0 recs

Much better than Billy Mays.

by iiowyn on Jan 28, 2009 12:49 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

Blasphemy

I’d buy a bridge from Billy Mays. Oxy-Clean changed my life.

by subo on Jan 28, 2009 8:51 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

Very Good Analysis By MMAPAYOUT, which means...

no one will want to discuss your fanpost because it brings a ray of sunlight to Affliction.
Good fan post though.

by MMASuPreMaCy on Jan 28, 2009 1:01 PM EST reply actions   0 recs

Actually, people seem to be falling over themselves to praise the company. I leave for one day…

by subo on Jan 28, 2009 8:51 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

I’m curious how their T-shit sales are doing during the Great Recession of 09.

by Ubernoober on Jan 28, 2009 1:08 PM EST reply actions   0 recs

if i know anything about poor/stupid people it’s that they are bad w/ money. so dont worry about the recession, douchebags will still buy their shirts at record rates…paying their car bill not so much.

by Headkick on Jan 28, 2009 1:17 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

I think you watch too much news. Most people still have jobs and aren’t going broke.

Isn’t every shirt in the mall $50 or above?

by bignerd on Jan 28, 2009 1:51 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

The day where the unemployment rate is above 50%

is the day Armageddon has come. Most people will always have jobs, but more and more layoffs are happening. It’s a snowball effect — people lose jobs, people can’t buy things, companies lose profits and lay people off — and in fact, alot more people are going broke than in anytime in recent history, mostly due to the ongoing collapse of wall street.

But yes MMASuP is right…a good friend of mine is a waiter at a diner and barely breaks $500 a week (gross). His entire wardrobe consists of Affliction tee shirts. He got a tax return last year and instead of paying down his credit card, he bought an xbox and a tv…

by B Money on Jan 28, 2009 3:18 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

Well, don’t worry. The government is going to start writing bigger checks to even more undeserving morons like you friend.

Bolts from the Blue // "Game over." - Jamal Williams
Bloody Elbow // "Every normal man must be tempted at times to spit upon his hands, hoist the black flag, and begin slitting throats." - H.L. Mencken

by Richard Wade on Jan 28, 2009 4:35 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

Good post

I read your post and had a brainwave. I posted it just now. Let me know what you guys think.

by rainmaker6 on Jan 28, 2009 2:20 PM EST reply actions   0 recs

So the death sentence imposed by Joe Blogger might not stick… interesting.

by smoogy on Jan 28, 2009 4:07 PM EST reply actions   0 recs

So a MMA org needs a boxing guy to promote it?

ok………………………………………………………………

by banter on Jan 28, 2009 9:21 PM EST reply actions   0 recs

A boxing guy who's raised almost a billion dollars in revenue

with just his own fights, making no mention of his promotional company whatsoever.

Gimme 1 Round!

by skwirrl on Jan 29, 2009 1:32 AM EST up reply actions   0 recs

MMA certainly doesn’t “need” him.

Bolts from the Blue // "Game over." - Jamal Williams
Bloody Elbow // "Every normal man must be tempted at times to spit upon his hands, hoist the black flag, and begin slitting throats." - H.L. Mencken

by Richard Wade on Jan 29, 2009 1:39 AM EST up reply actions   0 recs

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