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Quote of the Day: Fightlinker on Why MMA Is Big in Canada

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Zak: Why do you think that MMA and the UFC are so popular in Canada is it the history of hockey and hockey fight?

Ryan: Oh fuck no. I'd actually say hockey kind of keeps MMA in the shadows to a degree. Like take a look at the last time the UFC came to Montreal, it was a huge success and it sold out in minutes but as far as the city and most people were concerned, the only thing going on were the playoffs [the Montreal Canadians were in the NHL playoffs].

There's no definite answer for why we have such a high percentage of fans compared to the US, but if I was only allowed to pick one factor I'd say it probably has to do with pro wrestling. Canadians were retarded about it, then they grew up and grew right into the UFC.

Zak: Right, the Hart brothers.

Ryan: Yeah, plus hey maybe you can equate the low intelligence of Torontonians as to why they enjoyed it so much. But I think in the end it's also a bunch of smaller factors like how our government treated the sport and how medicare exists here. Personally I have no idea how smaller-level MMA exists in the US at all without having full-coverage healthcare

Also the expansion of the internet, which was really good in city centers. Everyone in America was still on dialup when DSL and cable were pretty much old hat in Canada. The internet was a necessity to be a fan a few years back, so it'd make sense that better internet access meant more fans

So there's my several pronged theory for why Canada is a hot spot

-- Ryan from Fightlinker talking to Zak Woods about MMA in Canada (don't miss the red hot maple leaf pic in the post).

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Did he really suggest that MMA is popular here because of our healthcare.. seriously?

I don’t know if you can really attribute it to any one reason. The majority of the Canadian culture is a lot more open to new things. The old adage of ethnic diversity vs melting pot, Canada is a lot more open to a lot of things. Couple that with the fact that we’re very tied to American media (whether we like it or not) and being a lot more open means new things like MMA has a better chance of taking off.

He’s likely right about broadband too, I’ve noticed that considering our population is a tiny fraction of the USA you’ll almost always find Canadians willing to discuss topics online due to the proliferation of cheap fast internet. The grassroots word of mouth and transmittal of knowledge and pop culture here in Canada seems to move a lot faster than the USA considering the population difference.

And lastly violence, less on weapons (due to our very restrictive weapon laws) but more on the fact that Canadians have grown up with a lot of it. Hockey is ingrained in Canadian psyche, with that comes fighting. Things have changed now (since I’m a lot older than a lot of people who follow MMA) but when I was younger it was rare NOT to see fights at the bars. In fact in my college years it was not uncommon for us to go out and blow off steam to go out and pick fights. Perhaps that’s just my anecdotal evidence but hand to hand fighting has been pretty commonplace.

Putting all those things that into a sport that is tied to popular media, has a large following online and in a culture that embraces new things and isn’t afraid of combat is why I think it’s so popular here in Canada.

by pr0cs on Jan 28, 2009 10:55 AM EST reply actions  

Dude...
Did he really suggest that MMA is popular here because of our healthcare.. seriously?

Please tell me you’re not the one being serious.

You know who Fightlinker is right? Go look at his site, you’ll get it.

I am the bastard love child of Junie Browning and Diamond Dave Kaplan.

by The_Gaijin on Jan 28, 2009 11:17 AM EST up reply actions  

I think FL is serious, but I doubt the correlation is all that strong.

by Cannon Jacques on Jan 28, 2009 11:43 AM EST up reply actions  

yeah he told me he wouldn’t train without the national health care system.

by Kid Nate on Jan 28, 2009 11:48 AM EST up reply actions  

The healthcare argument is silly – it applies equally to every contact sport. And it’s not like it’s more popular here than it is in the US.

Boxing isn’t as engrained here as it is in the U.S. either, so you don’t have that friction or unwillingness to accept a “new” combat sport. Plus we’re Canada, if something’s cool in the U.S. we’re pretty happy to adopt it as being cool here. Not to mention that we’re privileged when they bring an event here – it’s the SuperBowl every time it comes – so we’re an area that hasn’t been oversaturated with cards. We’ll continue to ravenously consume ppvs, free tvs shows, etc. because it’s the only way for us to see it.

I am the bastard love child of Junie Browning and Diamond Dave Kaplan.

by The_Gaijin on Jan 28, 2009 11:58 AM EST up reply actions  

I don’t buy the health care system either. It’s silly and besides, I believe the promoters have to buy insurance for the fighters per fight for injuries.

by cyph on Jan 28, 2009 12:02 PM EST up reply actions  

That doesn't cover training, where most seerious injuries occur.

Most fighters seem to develop joint and muscle tear injuries in training, whereas injuries in the ring are mostly lacerations and contusions.

by asa on Jan 28, 2009 5:53 PM EST up reply actions  

Fightlinker is blocked here by my draconian firewall so I cannot look at his site and ‘get it’.

by pr0cs on Jan 28, 2009 12:13 PM EST up reply actions  

BE was blocked...

on my old work firewall for a while…mostly due to an audit revealing a LOT of “fucks” in one particular article…which of course was an interview with Dana

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by Brent Brookhouse on Jan 28, 2009 12:47 PM EST up reply actions  

Hockey fights are all fake.

by The_Vig on Jan 28, 2009 12:56 PM EST up reply actions  

So many GSP fans who are going to cut there wrists this Saturday. =)

by cyph on Jan 28, 2009 11:58 AM EST up reply actions  

Oh buddy...

You will learn your lesson come Saturday!! Ya heard meh!?!

I am the bastard love child of Junie Browning and Diamond Dave Kaplan.

by The_Gaijin on Jan 28, 2009 11:59 AM EST up reply actions  

So “I heart Cock Chestnar” still the bet?

by cyph on Jan 28, 2009 12:00 PM EST up reply actions  

Quebec

Has especially been a place where any fight-sport is greatly embraced. The Montreal area especially has been a real boxing hot bed and now seems to have opened its arms to mma of all kinds, from it’s native son GSP and the UFC to grassroots shows like UCC —> TKO and XMMA.

I am the bastard love child of Junie Browning and Diamond Dave Kaplan.

by The_Gaijin on Jan 28, 2009 11:36 AM EST reply actions  

Also the expansion of the internet, which was really good in city centers. Everyone in America was still on dialup when DSL and cable were pretty much old hat in Canada. The internet was a necessity to be a fan a few years back, so it’d make sense that better internet access meant more fans

I’d say this was quite important for sure. Back in 2000 (I think) the ruling Liberal Party actually had it in their platform as an election issue to push for widespread high-speed broadband internet access for all Canadians, including those in the morst rural parts of Canada. The issue got dropped, but resurfaced a few years later. I can’t remember if official government initiatives were actually put in place, but in general, the message seems to have gotten across (at least in major populated areas). Dial-up Internet usage was free when I was at University back in the late 1990’s, and it wasn’t long before high speed came along. Again, free to the students, etc.

In general, Canada tends to adopt new technologies quicker than most places. For example, debit cards and Interac machines. I believe Canada was one of the first testing grounds for them. At least on any national scale, very early on. This is why no matter where you go in Canada, you can use your debit card basically.

I honestly do think that fighting is just in our blood. Whether it’s boxing, wrestling, or even in war. Back in WWI, the word Storm Trooper was used by the Kaiser to describe Canadian soldiers because they were known for getting things done that the British couldn’t. Even now, despite our crappy, underfunded military, the Canadian soldiers themselves (particularly the snipers) are considered some of the best trained fighters there are.

So yeah: in the blood.

by pud333 on Jan 28, 2009 12:07 PM EST reply actions  

That picture of the Canuck fan is perfect. That was basically my roommate back in University. Except he was usually covered by a cloud of pot smoke.

by pud333 on Jan 28, 2009 12:08 PM EST up reply actions  

Canadians love violence

Period.

WWE has always been popular in Canada and we never really got a chance with boxing. (Maybe with Chuvalo) We never really got a big fight like the Chris Johnson vs Lennox Lewis fight I hoped for.

So yes Canadians go wild for the fighting.

by achengy on Jan 28, 2009 12:50 PM EST reply actions  

IMPOSTER!

You are clearly not Canadian if you misspelled the name of our country’s most loved and storied franchise. That or a Leafs fan.

I am the bastard love child of Junie Browning and Diamond Dave Kaplan.

by The_Gaijin on Jan 28, 2009 2:07 PM EST up reply actions  

actually

Montreal is one of THE hotspots worldwide for boxing these days. There is a core of Montreal-based fighters like Lucian Bute and Herman Ngoudjo who attract big crowds at the Bell Centre, and the fans are some of the most passionate in the world. They are awesome.

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by Scott Christ on Jan 29, 2009 10:12 PM EST up reply actions  

*ahem*

Montreal Canadiens were in the playoffs ;-)

by CanadiensFan on Jan 28, 2009 1:33 PM EST reply actions  

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