Quote of the Day: Georges St. Pierre Talks Greg Jackson's Strategy for B.J. Penn
by Nate Wilcox on Jan 27, 2009 9:56 AM EST
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"(Greg Jackson's gameplan) will be a major factor. If I have something to say, it's that I know how to fight B.J. Penn, and I'm going to take care of business Jan. 31. I know how to fight him and I've been studying a lot of tape, and we put on a great strategy to shut down his whole game and it's going to work very well."
-- Georges St. Pierre talking to MMA Weekly
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Of course now Penn
is going to declare a statement like this as being very disrespectful…then go on to reiterate that he plans to kill GSP, and clear it up by saying he means murder, not defeat.
The more these two guys talk, the more I want to see GSP win.
Turning point of the series, that.
Rec’d.
There is no such thing as innocence, only degrees of guilt.
by misterjonez on Jan 27, 2009 11:21 AM EST up reply actions
I really hope GSP finishes BJ. So sick of Penn’s arrogance. GSP is the first real role model with regards to the younger fighters. I really am pulling for him here and think he has a great chance to finish Penn.
I hope the game plan drawn up for GSP is better than the one executed by Donald Cerrone the other night.
"Stop smiling you are about to be punched in the face !"
I gave a few people a lot of shit about Cerrone being a Vaner fan but Cerrone impressed me big time. Kid is strong and at 6"1 155 he is a terror with his striking and ground game.
whoever has the chalk last...
it’s such a stupid thing to say…. when you are talking about football for instance, when you are on the chalk board drawing plays… to determine whether the offense or defense is better, it’s simply dependent upon who has the chalk last… meaning if the offensive play is on the board, then the defense can draw a play to stop it and vice versa. Penn is going to be doing the same thing, studying tape and knowing how to beat him.
GSP is a good fighter and a class act, but he’s not going to be able to beat bj.
“GSP is a good fighter and a class act, but he’s not going to be able to beat bj.”
right, because there is no historical data backing up a previous win and the ability to win again. and just a “good” fighter? Come on. Surely you can muster up a more approriate adjetive for the most dominant 170 lber in the world?
St Pierre was the one going to the hospital after the last fight… I mean… you look at it from a scoring perspective, and sure St. Pierre got the win, but if you look at it as a pure fight… BJ kicked his ass and that’s inarguable.
yeah, when your eye socket is torn up from an eye poke, that tends to happen. He got his ass kicked in the 1st round and then took control.
Fighters tend to go to the hospital when they get their eye severely poked, to check for corneal damage. The UFC kinda wants to protect their investments and make sure their top fighters aren’t going blind. Funny how that works.
by Hardcharger on Jan 27, 2009 11:51 AM EST up reply actions
GSP by OWNAGE
First off, GSP already beat BJ decisively regardless of a split decision *that really should have been unanimous. Bj won round one, sure…after an eye-poke (clearly shown in a slow-mo replay and stated by Rogan during the fight) that made GSP see double (stated in his post-fight interview with Rogan) for the whole round enabling BJ to cause damage. Round 2 GSP dominated with takedowns, GNP and strikes, leg kicks, round 3 same thing GSP dominated. Just because the judges gave a split decision doesn’t mean it was right. It makes it look like it was close but it wasn’t. Anyway the point is GSP already beat BJ and yes both fighters are better now but GSPs game has evolved and gotten even better than BJ’s. He’s bigger, stronger and has added more muscle since their previous fight while BJ went down and is coming back up. Look at GSP vs Fitch and then GSP vs Penn 1 and you’ll see. When they first fought GSP was a purple belt and now he’s black belt in BJJ. His wrestling, striking, cardio just everything is better.
Watch it yourself :P
Case closed.
http://www.myvideofight.com/video/ufc/ufc-58-bj-penn-vs.-gsp/index.html
There is no way that anyone
can say GSP “dominated” Penn in their first fight. He may well do it this time, but if you truly think he dominated the first meeting you are just a GSP nuthugger. I love both of these guys & thought GSP did enough to beat BJ the first time, having said that I would not have had a huge problem if BJ took that decision. I am just hoping for an all time great war out of this one.
“There is no way that anyone can say GSP "dominated" Penn in their first fight.”
Umm, did you read that right becuase I said he dominated *round 2 and 3, not the whole fight.
by xFenixKnightx on Jan 27, 2009 10:56 AM EST up reply actions
You said GSP won decisively
& it was a unanimous decision, after stating he lost round 1 which was clearly decisive in Penns favor.
Unanimous does not mean a 30-27 decision, it means all judges agree one fighter won the fight.
And for the record, it was Cecil Peoples who gave the first fight to BJ.
by iiowyn on Jan 27, 2009 11:08 AM EST up reply actions 1 recs
A decisive split decision!!
Thats funny shit.
"Stop smiling you are about to be punched in the face !"
Yes unanimously
You know, as in…all judges (had they done their job right) should have scored it 29-28 for GSP making it….
wait for it
….
a unanimous decision!
Hard to understand I know…
by xFenixKnightx on Jan 27, 2009 10:52 AM EST up reply actions
How are you coming up with a unanimous decision
when by your own admission Penn won round 1? Accidental eyepokes do not cause you to still win the round when you get the shit kicked out of you.
All judges should have agreed
Is what I was trying to get at. My bad.
by xFenixKnightx on Jan 27, 2009 11:02 AM EST up reply actions
Do you really not know what “unanimous decision” means? Or are you just trying to be difficult?
by Kierkegaard on Jan 27, 2009 11:40 AM EST up reply actions
Just trying to pick a fight, lol.
I just love people saw GSP as the clear winner in that first fight. I love both of these guys & I would have been satisfied with whomever took it.
… honestly, I was hoping you were just trying to be difficult. You never know, though — some people really do think “unanimous” means the same as “clear” or “decisive” or “undisputed” or whatever.
FWIW, I thought GSP pretty clearly won the last two rounds of that fight. I don’t know if I’d call it a decisive victory, but I did think that the eye poke made it impossible to give BJ a 10-8 first round, and I thought the last two were pretty clearly 10-9 in favor of GSP, so I was pretty surprised to see a split decision.
by Kierkegaard on Jan 27, 2009 12:03 PM EST up reply actions
Like I said,
I can agree with any argument for either fighter to have won that decision as I felt it was close & a great fight. I am just hoping this next one turns out to be the samy type of fight!
I bet BJ lost cause his rib dislocated too huh
Not because he gassed like he will after about 2 minutes Saturday night.
Gimme 1 Round!
… anything is possible when Cecil Peoples is one of the judges!
by Kierkegaard on Jan 27, 2009 11:40 AM EST up reply actions
The trouble is that, as we've seen time and again,
super jitz doesn’t overcome super wrestling, or at least a super wrestler’s ability to avoid submissions while working ground ‘n pound. BJJ is a fantastic way to skool a noob on the ground, and it’s also pretty good at making the most of an inferior position, but there are just too many examples of guys dishing out mean GnP from the top of a BJJ black belt’s guard with impunity.
If this fight goes to the ground, GSP has a decisive advantage. BJ’s best chance is on the feet, working outside strikes. That’s one place he’s proven to be pretty dominating.
There is no such thing as innocence, only degrees of guilt.
by misterjonez on Jan 27, 2009 11:15 AM EST up reply actions
It’s not a BJJ match, it’s a fight.
BJ couldn’t threaten GSP on the ground 3 years ago when GSP is a purple belt. GSP now having black belt skills makes him even more of a threat this time.
by Hardcharger on Jan 27, 2009 11:50 AM EST up reply actions
hm...
1 Stay out of range.
2 kick him until his leg/body hurts.
3 Pour it on come round 3.
That kind of assumes BJ’s just gonna stand there and take it without pressing the action or closing the distance himself, doesn’t it?
BJ’s got a stout chin and I could see him wading in to close the distance and land some power shots. That being said, it would put him in range for takedowns which GSP is kinda, sorta good at.
I am the bastard love child of Junie Browning and Diamond Dave Kaplan.
I think what’s going to happen is that St. Pierre is going to come out looking stronger than BJ, but will get rocked with a stiff left jab, and then dropped with a right… he’s going to try to suck a leg in and grab a single and bj is going to sprawl and start beating him in the head while he’s sprawled , then when they pull BJ off of him, st. pierre is gonna fall on his side and cry, and then say that BJ showed tonight he was “da better man… but you have not seen the last of me.”
Quote me!
Its just somethin so staged about GSP...
Everything is always a generic response, or answer with him… It makes it hard for me to like him… As good a fighter he is, he is very boring… He needs to learn how to sell a fight… Serra sold the fight last time… Fitch and GSP was a war, but more of an afterthought…. and BJ is selling this fight this time… Like if BJ weren’t involved, I probably wouldn’t care…
Anyways… I hope BJ wins… just bc GSP fans IMO are the most sensitive fans in existence… The same guys who usually say somethin like “BJ Penn is 4-3 in his last 7”… “What has BJ Penn done to be a top fighter P4P”… Or come up with an excuse for any argument against St. Pierre.
GSP Is a Great fighter, who will likely try to LnP his way to a decision in the later rounds, because he has the advantage in wrestling, stamina, size, and strength. I don’t think theres a remote chance he submits BJ, and I also think it would be a stretch for GSP to KO BJ, tho a TKO due to Penn’s fatigue may be possible.
I think BJ has the advantage on the feet due to his Boxing, and his chin… as well as the mental advantage knowin he busted Rush up on the feet previously. He also has an advantage with the BJJ and has great TDD with his crazy flexibility and balance…
It will be a great fight, I just hope GSP loses…
“Everything is always a generic response, or answer with him”
I know, and the suits he always wears at press conferences? So profesional. The nerve of him.
Ask BJ Penn if he will ever get signed by the leading entertainment reps in Hollywood. GSP is a true professional who comes to fight. He is well spoken, good to his fans and genuinly likes to train and prepare the way a true professional athlete should prepare. In a nutshell, he is everything BJ Penn will never be.
Love him or hate him, he is great for the sport.
by lbk on Jan 27, 2009 12:24 PM EST up reply actions 1 recs
I do not understand how anyone
can genuinely say they dislike GSP. He seems to be a really good guy, gracious in victory and in defeat.
BJ has the mental advantage knowing he LOST the first fight against GSP, when GSP was blinded and had a broken nose, and even with that BJ couldn’t win? Sounds like just the opposite. BJ had a wounded, less skilled, less well-trained GSP, and still couldn’t beat him.
No wonder BJ’s spent so much time talking about GSP and trying to project his own weaknesses onto Rush.
And if GSP weren't involved
I equally wouldn’t care – BJ is gonna get destroyed after rd 1. Maybe during it
Gimme 1 Round!
It will be one of my favorite moments ever if GSP finishes BJ in this fight. I really, really, can’t stand BJ Penn. I expect this fight to be a war and go to decision, but I’m so hoping for a GSP finish.
There are many things that I cannot stand about BJ as well,
having said that I respect him as a fighter & as a fan I just want a great fight & if GSP finishes him (hopefully after at least 3rds) I will be a happy man.
Same here
I don’t want a decision, and I don’t want a quick KO – because then Penn can cry lucky punch. I want GSP to dominate him for a round and a half, and then submit him so BJ shuts his yapper. I really don’t like the guy.
I’m with you there. Also can’t stand Penn. I still don’t believe he is training hard or that he has re-invented himself. I think his skill level just carries him through the lightweight division. GSP def outworked him the last few mths and is def a harder worker. I think all of that will carry him through against Penn. Plus, Penn just doesn’t have the cardio to be able to walk in at 170 and expect to be able to carry that added weight and survive a 5 round war with the best welterweight on the planet.
Doesn’t any one recall that St. Pierre purposely went to a decision when he fought Fitch? How does a fighter go in with the mindset to let the fight go to the judges?
"My job is a decision-making job, and as a result, I make a lot of decisions." --George W. Bush, The Decider, Lancaster, Pa., Oct. 3, 2007
At the end of the fight St. Pierre said his plan was to go all 5 rounds.
"My job is a decision-making job, and as a result, I make a lot of decisions." --George W. Bush, The Decider, Lancaster, Pa., Oct. 3, 2007
by lovingmma25 on Jan 27, 2009 12:26 PM EST up reply actions
I think that he meant
he was prepared to go the full 5 rounds, not that we wanted to go to a decision. Why would anyone want to go to a decision & risk the judges screwing them over?
his plan was to be able to handle a 5 round fight. There is a difference. Lol at trying to imply GSP looks for decisions when he fights. That’s absurd. There’s no fighter alive that fights for a decision and if they are, they aren’t #1 in their division.
There actually was somebody
who’s gameplan was to take it to a decision and that was his quote. I don’t remember who it was but the intrawebs blasted him.
Gimme 1 Round!
It was Bisping in his fight with Leben.
And by all rights I think he should have been blasted considering he wants to be taken as a serious contender for Silva.
“Doesn’t any one recall that St. Pierre purposely went to a decision when he fought Fitch?”
No.
by xFenixKnightx on Jan 27, 2009 12:39 PM EST up reply actions
I would have given Penn more of a chance until I saw GSP’s stand up with Fitch.
Penn still has the better hands but the disparity will not be as much.
GSP will tire him out and then finish him.
Everyone says BJ’s cardio has gotten better… he has yet to get to the 4th round since all of sudden his cardio has improved.
It has improved but its still no where near GSP’s.
UFC Primetime
has definitely made me want to see GSP win. Some of the stuff that Penn has said, and the way he has responded to GSP pre-fight commentary has really turned me off.
Again...
GSP fans take it to such a level that they honestly get this worked up about their dislike for Penn because he talks shit… It’s amazing to me how invested you guys are in his corner… You guys actually begin to hate a fighter who is obviously selling a fight… lol. It’s ridiculous.
GSP is popular because of his abilities, but his personality comes off as performed to me… The same cat who was not impressed with Matt Hughes’ performance, and the same one that started making excuses and talkin shit about Matt Serra (MUCH BEFORE MATT SERRA RESPONDED) because he was embarassed by his loss is the dude behind the generic responses… everytime he strays away from the script he doesn’t seem like the posterboy the ufc would have us believe. Again… awesome fighter, but he’s not some standing example of perfection in any facet of the fight game whether it be fighting, or dealing with the media.
BJ acts like a jerk… GSP acts like a niceguy… In the end it’s a fight… and it will be awesome… 2 of the best in the world goin at it… and for anyone to act like either Guy is definitely going to win is far from objective and laughable…
I am not impressed by your post.
I keed, is joke.
by xFenixKnightx on Jan 27, 2009 4:15 PM EST up reply actions
Bj is just hyping the fight, its what your supposed to do. The more hype the more money. Obviously its working since there are those of you out there who want BJ to get beat because he acts arrogant etc.
I have two original thoughts about this fight.
Now to what matters…GSP has on many occasion stated that he has done everything that he possibly could to prepare for this fight. I also think that most of us hardcore fans out there truly believe that. Heres my theory…GSP has become very adept at learning and mastering new facets of MMA very quickly. Obviously due to his dedication and athleticism. In the span of about 2 years he has arguably become the best wrestler in the UFC. So what if GSP got some secret jedi jits training and has become nasty at jits? What if GSP comes out and tries to out jits Penn just to prove that he is a legend? (he constantly talks about becoming a legend). It wouldnt surprise me if he tried something like this. Which brings me to my next point…GSP has to go all out, he has to do all these things to prep for this fight because he lacks the one thing that BJ has and he dosen’t…the warrior mentality. Now before you all get your panties in a twist let me explain…Over my years of watching combat sports i have comprised a small list of guys who in my opinion possess this trait…Wanderlei Silva. fedor.kenny florian.diaz bros. and lesnar. These guys all have a mental and spiritual edge in their fights…These are the guys who can take alot of punishment but give it back as well. Its almost as if fighting is second nature to them. Alot of guys can train and get really good at MMA..but few have minds and hearts that cant be broken. Different fighters have to motivate themselves in different ways in their fights. These guys need no motivation because its what they were born to do. They are hard to break and have unbelievable mental fortitude. BJ Penn is also among my list and this is why i give him the edge in the fight. Bruce Lee once said forget about winning and losing; forget about pride and pain. Let your opponent graze your skin and you smash into his flesh; let him smash into your flesh and you fracture his bones; let him fracture your bones and you take his life. Do not be concerned with escaping safely – lay your life before him… BJ Penn by knockout.
by bareknuckledbrawler on Jan 28, 2009 1:16 AM EST reply actions
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