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Bloody Elbow Judo Chop: Renato "Babalu" Sobral's D'arce Choke

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I had high hopes coming into last weekend that there would be something between Affliction and the WEC that I could use for a Judo Chop and sure enough my man Renato "Babalu" Sobral came through for me.

In the second round of his fight with Rameau Thierry Sokoudjou, after a very close first round, Babalu managed to get a gassed Sokoudjou to the ground early on. They spent a couple of minutes on the ground close to the ropes before Big John moved them to the middle of the ring.

From there at around the 2:38 mark, Babalu is in half-guard and Sokoudjou gets a whizzer and rolls out but Babalu's wrestling back ground comes in and he counters the whizzer, gets a front headlock and then moves to what Tito helpfully informed the viewing audience is a "3/4 stack" -- which as my man Luke Thomas informs me means that Babalu had three points of contact with the ground while having Soko pinned.

Note: In the comments Luke says he has new information: "the 3/4 stack is the same as a 3/4 nelson where the three points are the two shoulder blades and a wrapped leg. That would not mean Babalu’s position in the case. Not sure who is right, just repeating what I learned." Regardless, the impressive wrestling in the sequence isn't so much the position Babalu achieves at the end as it is the way he countered Soko's whizzer escape from 1/2 guard. There's a gif of that sequence in the full entry. You can really see how gassed Soku was.

From there Babalu quickly transitioned from the front headlock to a D'arce choke. Tito called it an anaconda choke but I believe that's incorrect (please correct me in the comments).

Wikipedia says the D'arce choke is like this:

The D'Arce choke is similar to the Anaconda choke. The difference being that the choking arm is thread under the near arm, in front of the opponent's neck, and on top of the far arm. The choke gets its name from Joe D'Arce, a Brazilian Jiu-Jitsu black belt under Renzo Gracie. Though not the inventor of the choke, D'Arce performed this choke often and with great success in many Jiu Jitsu and submission grappling tournaments. Another name for this choke is the Brabo choke.

Luke tells me the difference is that "you wrap around the neck FIRST and the back of the arm SECOND" and that the difference between the D'arce and the Brabo choke has to do with your relative position when starting the choke -- D'arce is more from the north south, Brabo more from the side.

Asking Luke about all this naturally brought up Denis Kang's failed front arm triangle choke against Alan Belcher at UFC 93. Luke tells me that the reason Kang lost his choke was that he over-rolled. "You're only supposed to roll to the opposite side from where you begin the roll. So if I drop to my left thigh, I roll to my right thigh." Kang rolled all the way over and because they were sweaty, lost his choke.

Babalu was one of the first top MMA grapplers to come primarily from a wrestling background and combine that with a top-level submission grappling game starting with Luta Livre then switching to BJJ where he got a blackbelt. (Anyone know if Babalu is a Luta Livre blackbelt as well?)

In the late 1990's when Babalu first emerged, he was widely expected to be a heavyweight champion of the world. A hard fought decision loss to Fedor Emelianenko in RINGs chased him out of the heavyweight division and two losses to Chuck Liddell have so far ended his dreams of holding a world title. But his win over Sokoudjou has him back on the rise. We'll see if he contends for a title again. I still have hopes he'll return to the UFC. Either that or fights Antonio Rogerio Nogueira in Affliction.

Babalu's stylistic heirs include Jake Shields and both Jim and Dan Miller. A wrestler who really focuses on integrating submissions into their game is a very dangerous animal as he's mastered 2/3 of the sport. Add a decent striking game and voila, championship material.

There's an animated gif in the full entry.

UPDATE: Not only does it appear that the 3/4 stack is a pin where the losing wrestler's shoulders and one leg are pinned, but Kenny Florian on Inside MMA definitively stated that this is an Anaconda Choke and NOT a D'arce choke. I'm sticking by my call that this is a D'arce choke after checking with a couple of other sources.

About the name of this feature:
I chose Judo Chop because it’s an utter misnomer that is sometimes used by poorly informed MMA commentators during fights. It’s also from the Austin Powers movie. I chose it because it reflects my own lack of expertise and what this column is: my stumbling along in the dark trying to get a handle on the technical aspects of the fights. The techniques featured here will sometimes involve judo but not always. Sorry if that's confusing.

Photo by Tracy Lee.

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2nd gif by Smoogy.

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Interesting that you mention Belcher, who got caught with a D’Arce choke from Grove a year or two back.

I guess he learned how to defend it.

by George Lucas on Jan 26, 2009 6:29 PM EST reply actions  

I talked to a wrestler today. He tells me the 3/4 stack is the same as a 3/4 nelson where the three points are the two shoulder blades and a wrapped leg. That would not mean Babalu’s position in the case. Not sure who is right, just repeating what I learned.

by Luke Thomas on Jan 26, 2009 6:30 PM EST reply actions  

I’m just saying I may have the wrong info on the naming of the stack.

by Luke Thomas on Jan 26, 2009 6:40 PM EST up reply actions  

Yeah but Tito miscalled it during the fight so he’s the source there as well.

by Kid Nate on Jan 26, 2009 7:01 PM EST up reply actions  

He Is Wrong

I wrestled in high school and college, and the person you asked is misinformed or you misinterpreted what he was saying. A 3/4 is pictured in the link in the article. A 3/4 nelson is similar to a half nelson, but the free hand locking with the hand on the neck to create more leverage. To see a picture:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nelson_hold

by MrPants on Jan 26, 2009 9:43 PM EST up reply actions  

err

A 3/4 stack is pictured in the link in the article.

by MrPants on Jan 27, 2009 12:06 AM EST up reply actions  

1/2 nelson-3/4 nelson-full nelson… I don’t think the points of the body are referenced by the name of the move, but that the fraction is just 1/4 closer to a full nelson… off to the side and locked under one armpit and under/around the neck rather than having back control and threading arms under both armpits with the hands locked behind the neck…which would be a full nelson. A 3/4 stack does involve the leg, but thats a different pinning combination than just a 3/4 nelson. Tito misspoke. Shocking.

by TheFugitive on Jan 27, 2009 3:47 AM EST up reply actions  

Poor Sokoudjou, that guy comes in hyped to the gills and he’s fading very fast. Strikeforce ho!

by toxic on Jan 26, 2009 7:40 PM EST reply actions  

So question: Sokoudjou lost to Machida back in his UFC debut to an arm triangle choke. Would that have been a D’arce? Anaconda? Or something completely different?

by pud333 on Jan 26, 2009 7:42 PM EST reply actions  

It’s similar. The head and arm triangle Macihda uses uses only arms and body repositioning. The other chokes look similar but incorporate more gripping behind the shoulder. It forces finishing with the choke with a little more angular positioning.

by Luke Thomas on Jan 26, 2009 7:46 PM EST up reply actions  

Its a bit of a shame how the storyline on this fight became “wow, Sokoudjou sucks” and not “wow, another highlight reel sub by Babalu”. Sobral on the ground is a thing of beauty

by smoogy on Jan 26, 2009 7:42 PM EST reply actions  

Yeah, Sokoudjou has been on quite a slide recently, losing three out of four fights. He should probably go back to the drawing board.

by pud333 on Jan 26, 2009 7:45 PM EST up reply actions  

Sokoudjou started his career with such impressive wins that people became very excited and now feel almost betrayed when he loses. Sobral has been doing what he’s doing for so long that I think people are almost immune to it.

Bolts from the Blue // "Game over." - Jamal Williams
Bloody Elbow // "Every normal man must be tempted at times to spit upon his hands, hoist the black flag, and begin slitting throats." - H.L. Mencken

by Richard Wade on Jan 26, 2009 7:45 PM EST up reply actions  

Hard to disagree with that. Hopefully Sokoudjou fights someone like Mike Whitehead next, he needs a fight or two to rebuild his confidence. Unfortunately for him, once you’ve been thrown in the deep end, usually you either sink or swim, and he is totally submerged at this point.

by smoogy on Jan 26, 2009 8:10 PM EST up reply actions  

It’s a real shame, too. He appears to have a great deal of potential.

Bolts from the Blue // "Game over." - Jamal Williams
Bloody Elbow // "Every normal man must be tempted at times to spit upon his hands, hoist the black flag, and begin slitting throats." - H.L. Mencken

by Richard Wade on Jan 26, 2009 8:12 PM EST up reply actions  

He needs to learn to pace himself and not throw everything as hard as he can. It sort of Lytle fade near the end of his fights after throwing every punch as hard as possible. the difference is Lytle has really good cardio from years in the sport/boxing, and isn’t 205 pound of fast twitch muscle. That shit requires more oxygen and your gonna get tired.

YAMATO DAMASHII

by R.T. on Jan 26, 2009 8:24 PM EST up reply actions  

Nice to see you on this thread Smoogy. Any chance you can get a gif of the transition from 1/2 guard to north/south? roughly 2:45 to 2:35 of the 2nd round.

by Kid Nate on Jan 26, 2009 7:51 PM EST up reply actions  

I’ve got my best guys on it

by smoogy on Jan 26, 2009 8:12 PM EST up reply actions  

Giving Babalu an eternity to snake his arm through = probably not the greatest idea

by smoogy on Jan 26, 2009 9:22 PM EST up reply actions  

Now, admit Quach isn’t a fucking gatekeeper!

by smoogy on Jan 26, 2009 9:30 PM EST up reply actions  

He’s a top 40 featherweight.

Bolts from the Blue // "Game over." - Jamal Williams
Bloody Elbow // "Every normal man must be tempted at times to spit upon his hands, hoist the black flag, and begin slitting throats." - H.L. Mencken

by Richard Wade on Jan 27, 2009 1:00 AM EST up reply actions   1 recs

I’ll have to check with L.C. Davis…….what’s that L.C.? You say he’s a very tough gatekeeper?
Ok, there you have it. Bao Quach — very tough gatekeeper.

by Kid Nate on Jan 27, 2009 9:13 AM EST up reply actions  

Gotta love Affliction, w/o them this column would be lacking the gifs and pictures.

I think it is my fav BE column too because I learn something new from every one of them. (Did not know this was also called a Brabo choke.)

by DirtyML on Jan 26, 2009 8:06 PM EST reply actions  

I would like to thank Kid Nate, Luke, and Smoogy. This is a column I always look forward to and you guys keep it very very informative and accurate.

YAMATO DAMASHII

by R.T. on Jan 26, 2009 8:26 PM EST reply actions  

I love a sub like this

I think there are alot of variations on the head & arm chokes that alot of guys would fall for, especially ex-wrestlers if only more people would learn to use them.

by Razreshat on Jan 27, 2009 8:50 AM EST reply actions  

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