Quote of the Day 2: Fedor Emelianenko On Dana White
by Kid Nate on Jan 19, 2009 3:42 PM EST
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Print(Dana) White has said that you don't control your career, your manager does. Is that true?
Well, that's not entirely true. Vadim is my friend, he's my partner and he's very well qualified and he's proven himself as a good manager. He's got a track record of building my career and collaborating with major organizations, which has afforded me the opportunity to fight the best fighters in the world to date. Everyone has their duties in this business. My role is to fight. Vadim's role is to deal with people like Dana White.
Fedor Emelianenko talking to Michael David Smith.
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‘Well, that’s not entirely true – but here are all the ways in which it is.’
by Derek Suboticki on Jan 19, 2009 3:50 PM EST reply actions 1 recs
Gotta respect the way the man is always humble and never says anything negative about anyone, even after they have called him the “Crazy Russians”.
If I remember right, Dana referred to Fedor’s management as ‘crazy Russians’, not Fedor himself.
by Derek Suboticki on Jan 19, 2009 4:21 PM EST up reply actions
I agree that Fedor is definitely classy,
but doing things that prevent him from being on the biggest MMA stage in the world is not good mgmt. No company is going to let a fighter dictate those kind of terms to join their organization no matter how good they are. Fedor is approaching the tale end of his career & that may be why he is content where he is at.
I have to disagree, if substantially more money is being offered outside UFC than his management team is doing their job.
Maybe yes, maybe no. How much more could he make in advertising dollars? How long will the cash flow last? Who else do you alienate by going one direction rather than another? I’m not arguing pro-UFC here. My point is just that good management comes down to a heck of a lot more than a single ledger line.
"I'm AJB and I endorse this nut-puncher."
There you go people, Fedor said it himself. I understand that’s a manager’s job, but it seems his management has TOTAL control of Fedor. I still believe Fedor’s manager’s are more intrested in keeping their M-1 Brand alive on Fedor’s back than they are pushing Fedor as a fighter. Therefore, there is a conflict of interest.
You don’t see guys like Monty Cox guiding his fighters to fight for Aderenline MMA and not trying to get them the BEST deal possible outside of his org. Fedor’s managers do just the opposite.
Case in point, look at Affliction’s site. Nearly everywhere Affliction is there is a “in association with M1” right there. Everyone knows M1 would be NOTHING w/o Fedor. So unless Fedor has some monetary interest in the M1 brand there is a conflict of interest with his management.
I think Dana should give Fedor a two fight contract (cause he definitely wouldn’t sign for more). A title shot at lesner, then a title defense. Even though Fedor wouldn’t get paid as much money as he usually gets paid, and he wouldn’t get to compete in Sambo (which is something he should put aside for now anyway and just concentrated on MMA) and he would probably have to give up the WAMMA Belt. But if he did come in and kick some ass, say Lesner then maybe Couture, (give him that fight that he wanted so badly) But then what does the UFC do? Fedor just came in and wupped on two of their best HWs and then he either asks for a HUGE raise or he leaves and goes to another competing organization and gives them credit as having the best HW in the world. Dillema
Fedor refuses to sign anything more than a one-fight deal co-promoted with M1. He’s the one stopping this from happening, not Dana.
by Derek Suboticki on Jan 19, 2009 5:39 PM EST up reply actions
Ha.
Dana doesn’t sign anything less than a one-fight deal without co-promoting. He’s the one stopping this from happening, not Fedor.
See how easy that was.
by MMASuPreMaCy on Jan 19, 2009 6:00 PM EST up reply actions
The difference is what Dana’s doing is reasonable.
Bolts from the Blue // "Game over." - Jamal Williams
Bloody Elbow // "Every normal man must be tempted at times to spit upon his hands, hoist the black flag, and begin slitting throats." - H.L. Mencken
by Richard Wade on Jan 19, 2009 6:24 PM EST up reply actions
What saying
Come to our organization – and if you win the championship we extend your contract indefinately at the same price until you lose or resign?
That was one of BIG things that Finklestien said Fedor wanted to negotiate about and the UFC said take it or leave it.
Gimme 1 Round!
I think it’s more reasonable than Fedor’s management’s demands in that many fighters have accepted it, but no company in the UFC’s position would ever accept Fedor’s management’s demands.
Bolts from the Blue // "Game over." - Jamal Williams
Bloody Elbow // "Every normal man must be tempted at times to spit upon his hands, hoist the black flag, and begin slitting throats." - H.L. Mencken
by Richard Wade on Jan 19, 2009 10:13 PM EST up reply actions
If I were Dana, I wouldn’t even consider co-promoting anything at this point, either. All co-promotion would do is to potentially crack the door open a little for M-1. It makes no sense for him to do it. I wouldn’t help somebody set up a gas station if I had the only other one in town.
Most here consider Fedor to be the best heavyweight, or at least the most accomplished. However, he doesn’t have a name in North America. He currently poses no threat. Fedor will have to bend to the UFC if he wants to get in the octagon. Otherwise, he’ll just be the best fighter not in the UFC. That’s just the way it is.
by Cannon Jacques on Jan 19, 2009 7:28 PM EST up reply actions 4 recs
That is exactly how I feel, well said.
“Most here consider Fedor to be the best heavyweight, or at least the most accomplished. However, he doesn’t have a name in North America. He currently poses no threat. Fedor will have to bend to the UFC if he wants to get in the octagon. Otherwise, he’ll just be the best fighter not in the UFC. That’s just the way it is.”
"You Went Full Retard, Man - Never Go Full Retard." --Kirk Lazarus
Love Fedor but
he’s no bigger than the UFC and the UFC doesn’t need him. But still, he could make crazy money with the UFC if only his management wouldn’t insist so much on co-promoting.
We’ll see how much money M-1 will bring to Affliction next week…
M1 + Fedor is a conflict of interest
If Fedor isn’t getting a part of M1’s profits, it’s not right for his managers to be running an promotion and his career. They are going to be more interested in their going-nowhere brand than they are Fedor’s career.
Before Banned
It was said Fedor’s pay from M-1 was nearly 2,000,000 per fight and that Afflictions 300K was on top of that.
He basically does have a part in their company. He is all their marketing and fights. And they pay him 2 Mil per fight. Sounds better than anything the UFC would give him. Because he’s not gonna sell 1 million Plus PPV’s at 2% PPV percentage.
Gimme 1 Round!
Ok heres the thing that you guys dont understand, the UFC does not need Fedor and Fedor does not need the UFC. Fedor’s mission is to fight the best HW’s int he world. This saturday he will fight the #2 ranked HW in Arlovski and after that he will fight #3 Barnett now why should he go to the UFC to fight lesser ranked fighters? And whos to say that if he never enters the UFC his legacy will be hurt? Us fans? It is not Fedor’s first priority to fight in the UFC he has nothing to prove to the hardcore UFC (not MMA) fans…
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