Quote of the Day: Bobby Lashley Wants Brock Lesnar

“I would like for Bobby Lashley to be victorious by way of knockout. Everyone wants something like that. But we’re not just going to steer completely away from the wrestling. It will turn into a wrestling match. But at the same token he’s been training jiu-jitsu as I have and we’ve both been training standup. So I think it’s just going to be a brawl. We’re both two big athletic heavyweights with quick hands, hard punches and quick takedowns. It’s going to be a brawl.”
Former WWE wrestler, three time NAIA national champion, 1-0 MMA fighter, and new American Top Team member Bobby Lashley talks to Sherdog about UFC heavyweight champ Brock Lesnar.
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Is that Bobby Lashley referring to himself in the third person? Say it ain’t so, Bobby.
by Cannon Jacques on Jan 19, 2009 12:49 PM EST reply actions
Oh yes he is...
bobby lashley loves bobby lashley…
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by Brent Brookhouse on Jan 19, 2009 12:51 PM EST up reply actions
this fuck needs to do something before he starts calling people out. he one his first fight by cut and now he wants to take on Lesnar? he wrestled in college at 180 pounds and now he is huge. Hmm? he could of signed with a big organization if he wanted too but he went the indie route and is fighting people with 0 experience just like him.
"If I wanted to spend a half hour between two hairy legs I'd go to your mother's house." -Don Frye
I’m pretty sure he’s just trying to get his name out there and it seems to be working for him.
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by Richard Wade on Jan 19, 2009 4:45 PM EST up reply actions
my friend told me he never really got over in wrestling either. they brought him after brock and he never really took off the same way. he has the personality of a pet rock. Lesnar didn’t do it the “right way” of working his way up. But he didnt fight in indie shows and call out UFC champs either, Put up or Shut up stop riding the coat tails
"If I wanted to spend a half hour between two hairy legs I'd go to your mother's house." -Don Frye
True...
the wrestling thing is absolutely true. it was in part because he was getting pushed down people’s throats rather than allowing them to naturally embrace him…and in part because he wasn’t that good and had no personality.
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by Brent Brookhouse on Jan 19, 2009 5:02 PM EST up reply actions
Nevermind I got a wiki anwser on it
I was always under the impression that the original died and they brought guy in after they fired the first one. He’s still alive and kicking
Gimme 1 Round!
LOL Don't use fightfinder dude
The fight is available on youtube. He beat that dudes ass and the guy was lucky he got cut so it got stopped
Gimme 1 Round!
Actually I take that back
Fightfinder is a great resource but try and make sure you see what context the result is in before blindly pointing out it was a cut that stopped it. ESPECIALLY IF THE RESULT SAYS CUT. Fedor vs TK – fluke. Bobby Lashley vs some dude – Asswhuppin
For instance, when people point out Fernandes got beaten by Urijah on a cut because they checked the fight on fightfinder… Its just plain dumb to do that and not check to see if Urijah was crushing his face into the cage with his elbow repeatedly. It makes you look foolish
Gimme 1 Round!
Sorry, but...
Even if the UFC is willing to hand out their arbitrary titles to newbies doesn’t mean I’m willing to accept it. And neither should any of you.
Brock Lesnar isn’t the heavyweight champion until he beats somebody real – not in their 40s or asian.
Umm… or asian? Ok racism aside, Randy Couture was being hyped as the #2 heavyweight until Brock beat him. Also, Heath Herring is a very experienced fighter who has fought everybody. He was hoping to get a title shot off a win over Lesner. How is his path any shorter than Ganzaga’s in terms of time in the UFC alone.
by EazyEismydad on Jan 19, 2009 1:03 PM EST up reply actions
last i checked asian people were indeed real.
"Stop smiling you are about to be punched in the face !"
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Min Soo Kim isn’t a quality opponent. Reading between the lines might be hard for some people, I understand.
by KneeToTheFace on Jan 19, 2009 1:13 PM EST up reply actions
Yeah well
You should probably learn to be more clear and take a chill pill in the process.
Being Asian, I thought you were indeed being racist, not referring to Min Soo Kim, a non-quality opponent who happens to be Asian.
Being Asian, I thought you were indeed being racist, not referring to Min Soo Kim, a non-quality opponent who happens to be Asian.
See, I figured he was talking about Min Soo Kim, but the sentance does come across as racist. A sentance like “not in their 40s or asian” needs a qualifying remark as a follow up, or else some people are gonna take it as being racist. KneeToTheFace: We’re not mind readers. Sometimes some people are just gonna take what you wrote at its face value.
Well I do gotta give him this...
There is a real dearth of Asian HW’s in this sport. At any other weight class its kinda racist but when the best Asian HW in the sport, (Siberia not included), is Fujita… Its kinda just truth.
Gimme 1 Round!
0 and 0 Ishii
And Judo backgrounds have yet to translate into world whampions except in Aoki’s case… I’m skeptical about a world champion coming from a guy that could easily be 205. Of course he’s very young, sounds like he has a great work ethic and will fill in to probably become a natural HW. So I won’t condemn him to failure yet.
Gimme 1 Round!
I’m 19 fight at 155 pounds with a record of 0-0 am 0-0 pro, Hey Dana, I want Brock Lesnar. Give me him.
Seriously.. stop with the call outs when you have only fought once and have been training for this short of period.
Seriously.. stop with the call outs when you have only fought once and have been training for this short of period.Lashley no doubt will be really good, but right now.. stop the calling out.
UFC should sign Minowa
He would break Lesnar’s leg.
by KneeToTheFace on Jan 19, 2009 1:15 PM EST up reply actions
Funaki is better at leglocks than Minowa
Minowa is better at leglocks than Lesner
A+B=C
Gimme 1 Round!
Wouldn’t A>B>C make more sense?
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by Richard Wade on Jan 19, 2009 4:30 PM EST up reply actions
Please no....
I didn’t want to see Lesnar in the octagon and I really don’t want to see Lashley in the octagon. Please make it stop. I would rather see a special league for Pro-Wrestlers gone MMA than seeing them in the UFC.
"Stop smiling you are about to be punched in the face !"
that's so ignorant
Why would you even say that? Just because they used their athletism and abnormal size to make A LOT of money after their college days were over doesn’t make them not legit. It’s like… you wouldn’t have had a problem with them if after college they became math teachers and wanted to give mma a shot. You’d be like “wow, these guys have national wrestling titles from college and are insane athletes.” It’s just because they did pro wrestling, you act like it discredits their abilities as fighters. It’s just really freaking ignorant. You act like they are using their “pro wrestling” as their background to get into mma. These guys are using the 15+ years of hardcore wrestling and 100+ college matches as a background.
by adamdd on Jan 19, 2009 2:09 PM EST up reply actions 4 recs
I understand your point
I know that these guys are incredibly athletic and well trained wrestlers. Lesnar has proved that he belongs in the UFC. My issue is that I don’t like explaining this to casual fans who find the presence of “pro wrestlers” in the UFC as reason to argue that MMA is not a legitimate sport the same way that “pro wrestling” is not considered a legitimate sport. Being a pro wrestler doesn’t discredit their abilities as fighters but for many casual observers it discredits the sport of MMA. It is not right but it is the way it is. Does this make sense?
"Stop smiling you are about to be punched in the face !"
I think this argument is way overstated.
Anyone with reasonable intelligence should be able to understand the difference between pro wrestling and mma. I could see having a hard time having this discussion on a pro wrestling forum, but I just don’t see anyone that makes a difference discrediting the sport by using brock’s pro wrestling.
It makes sense in a way...
but it’s wrong.
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by Brent Brookhouse on Jan 19, 2009 2:55 PM EST up reply actions
I sort of understand you,
but I am not worried about having to explain something as ridiculous as what a guy did in his previous career to someone. It really has no baring at all. What about guys that waited tables or something before they got into MMA fulltime?
All that this argument says is that fans outside of Japan are deficient. I say that because, in Japan, fighters have crossed over between pro-wrestling and pro-FIGHTING for years, and no one has ever gotten “confused”. You could, in fact, make the argument that from the earliest days of MMA – public challenge matches between different styles of fighting – there has always been a performative aspect that naturally led to overlap with pre-scripted performances. If most people can’t figure out where MMA stops and the pro-wrestling starts – and accept that, to a certain extent, so long as men and women are fighting for our viewing pleasure the line will always be blurry – we have much bigger problems to worry about than the fate of MMA.
We can’t and shouldn’t hold legitimate athletes and fighters out of the sport because dummies can’t tell A from B. That’s called the lowest common denominator, and we shouldn’t go there.
"I'm AJB and I endorse this nut-puncher."
So you want to penalize
athletic guys who took the millions of dollars they were pd for pro wrestling before getting into MMA? Wow, sounds very reasonable! lol
Do not tell me you would not do the exact same thing if the opportunity presented itself.
Pro Wrestlers like Ken Shamrock, Josh Barnett, Ikuhisa Minowa and Kazushi Sakuraba, yea those guys really screwed up MMA with their involvement.
pro wrestling helps...
When these guys come over from pro wrestling, it brings more fans to the sport.
And people needed to explain to me about Brock’s past when I first learned of him just how I will explain to new people. 50% of the fun of watching sports in general is becoming more educated about the sport. (other than bad ass knock outs of course) When you watch football, the announcers are often talking about statistics and things of the past to educate you. When we watch UFC, Joe Rogan is doing a good job explaining the positions and what’s happening and we learn from that. The more people we can bring, the better it will be for the MMA community.
Tons of MMA fans came over from pro wrestling, especially in Japan where Pride was modeled after the pro wrestling shows. What’s funny is that most hardcore pro wrestling fans probably didn’t need anyone to explain Brock Lesnar’s qualifications for MMA because they knew of his world class amateur background.
Fuck all that. The great thing about MMA is anyone can train, anyone can compete, and if you don’t like em, beat em.
by Derek Suboticki on Jan 19, 2009 4:27 PM EST up reply actions
I post corrected.
This is good stuff and why I like BE! After reading these comments I realize that my reaction to Lashley’s statement was closed minded and based on a quick judgement that stems from my dislike for Pro Wrestling. My statement that pro wrestlers should have their own MMA league was in fact very ignorant. Stating that the presence of former pro wrestlers takes legitimacy from the sport of MMA for the casual observer was a weak argument and one that, after debating it myself, really had no validity. I wouldn’t complain if a former Harlem Globetrotter was drafted and started in the NBA so why express disdain for a pro wrestler fighting for an elite MMA promotion. Thanks for straightening me out on this fellow BE readers.
"Stop smiling you are about to be punched in the face !"
by Warhand on Jan 19, 2009 11:34 PM EST up reply actions 7 recs
The fact that you wrote this post is awesome.
by Rundownloser on Jan 19, 2009 11:39 PM EST up reply actions
Everyone seems to be over looking something....
Lashley hasnt even beaten his next opponent yet….a guy by the name of Mike Hayes. Trust me, Hayes is no push over. If Lashley chooses to overlook him, he is going to be lying on the canvas trying to figure out where he is.
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Sadly, if Lashley had got into the game sooner, he would have been a legit contender to take on Anderson Silva.
dude
That is obviously someone new to the mma world.
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by Brandon Jones on Jan 19, 2009 2:19 PM EST up reply actions
I think the point RoyalB is trying to make is that 10 years ago, Lashley was competing in the 185 pound class (or there abouts) and would have build the skill set needed to be a top tier MMA fighter by now.
Whether he would have continued to fight at that low a weight is debatable.
The fact that Lashley’s wrestling career was less than sensational makes me almost think he would have been better off focusing on MMA from the beginning.
I guess
but that seems kind of ridiculous as he now weighs 260 or whatever. How is his wrestling career being judged? The entire thing was scripted & he made millions, so I would consider that a successful career venture myself. I do not blame anyone for taking that kind of money.
I don’t think that he was very successful in that he never caught on with the fans and never panned out to be the big deal he was supposed to given his talents and abilities.
But, yeah, he definitely got that paper.
by Rundownloser on Jan 19, 2009 2:35 PM EST up reply actions
HA!
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by Brent Brookhouse on Jan 19, 2009 5:03 PM EST up reply actions
He never made money like Lesnar made money in the WWE, Lashley just wasn’t that popular a pro wrestler.
Not like Lesnar,
but that does not mean he was not successful. If I am not mistaken, Lesnar was probably top 5 all time in pro wrestling earning.
Lesnar was very popular and made huge bucks but he didn’t do pro wrestling for very long, Lashley was a mid level guy who never caught on who didn’t do pro wrestling for very long. It’s the difference between private jets and limo rides and flying coach on your own dime and sharing a rental car with other wrestlers.
Not having
a private jet & making less millions than arguably the top earner in all of pro wrestling is not unsuccessful.
Lesnar was nowhere near the top earner in all of pro wrestling, the guy was only in the WWE for 4 years and two of those years were training at OVW. Hell when it was all said and done Lesnar’s wife probably made more from pro wrestling than Brock did. Even guys like the Undertaker and HHH only make around 2 million a year.
Lashley was in the WWE for 3 years (one in OVW), didn’t have the name recognition Lesnar had coming in and never did anything that would get him up to those big numbers. Where Brock made a couple million off the WWE Lashley probably made a couple hundered thousand. He also didn’t leave the WWE by choice.
That is absolutely incorrect.
Lower top guys in wrestling all make 6 figures at least, & if you think Lesnar did not make millions while he was there (by his own admission he made millions) then you are just talking. Even if you say Lashley made say $500,000 or even $300,000 for three years, on what planet are you living where that is not successful? These wrestlers never complain about the money they made, just about the time away from their families.
$100,000 isn’t squat for guys who work 300+ days a year on the road. Even if Lashley made $500,000 in his three years in pro wrestling that isn’t really successful by pro wrestling standards. By comparison to the average US family Lashley made very good money but it’s not successful unless it is maintained and Lashley failed at having a pro wrestling career in the end, you don’t retire at 32 years old off $500,000 and he isn’t making that now. The guy didn’t have a successful pro wrestling career he just made good money for a couple of years.
I did say that Lesnar made millions but he was only in the company for 4 years and only two of those 4 years were actually in the WWE, he probably made 4 to 6 million for his entire career, great money but it doesn’t put him near the top earners because he just didn’t do it for very long. Lesnar could retire on his money, Lashley could of paid off an average family home it’s not really even comparible.
300 days a
year is what the majority of this country works & that same majority does not make anywhere near that kind of money. You are also talking about working for a fraction of those days as well. All that I am saying is that he was successful in pro wrestling doing exactly what he went there to do-MAKE MONEY. There was nothing else he could have done for those 3 years to make that kind of money. In my book, that is successful.
Huge difference between working 300+ days and working on the road 300+ days.
As far as being successful Lashley didn’t leave the WWE by choice and that is a pretty big sign of being unsuccessful in your career of choice. Brock Lesnar wanted to leave the WWE and do something else, Bobby Lashley didn’t. If he was successful he would still be doing it (and making that money)now.
Actually when you consider the biggest employer in America is the government...
most people work about 260 days a year, (365 divided by 7 X 5) plus a month of paid vacation for a grand total of 230 days a year… Not including sick days or family emergencies. So about 220 days a year
Gimme 1 Round!
(I'm including the military where you get 1 month of leave a year)
I’m not sure if all federal/state jobs dish out the month of vacation a year or if its 2 weeks
Gimme 1 Round!
Unlike Lesnar, Bobby Lashley wasn’t 270lbs in college. He won his three N.A.I.A. national championships in the 177lb weight class.

nice. i like brock, but i hope the ufc never signs lashley. i kinda think he will be exposed the 1rst time he fights a non-can anyway.
and that time....
…is now. Mike Hayes is going to remove his head.
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by Brandon Jones on Jan 19, 2009 2:49 PM EST up reply actions
That is a very real possibility..
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by Brent Brookhouse on Jan 19, 2009 2:56 PM EST up reply actions
Actually....
I have never met Mike so we arent friends, but I have seen him fight. He is a very smart fighter. Search for Mike “300” Hayes on youtube.
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by Brandon Jones on Jan 19, 2009 5:35 PM EST up reply actions
And....
He is a very big, very solid 235. I do know that he fought a guy who was an alternate on the US Olympic freestyle team and handled his wrestling.
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by Brandon Jones on Jan 19, 2009 5:37 PM EST up reply actions
yes
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by Brandon Jones on Jan 19, 2009 5:55 PM EST up reply actions
extra weight will help him...
My BJJ instructor Pedro Sauer always says… “You teach a guy to use technique instead of strength, he can really hurt someone…. you take that same person with great technique and add strength and it’s very scary, my friend”
Basically, from the wrestling he has gained his base, he understands head and wrist control, and he understands controlling someone else. Being at his new weight doesn’t discredit his wreslting abilities since he already has the technique.
by adamdd on Jan 19, 2009 3:11 PM EST up reply actions 1 recs
So what, this will be UFC 110? Lashley comes in, beats up poor Heath and someone else, and they set this fight up?
This is too far in the future to imagine, but anyone who thinks Lashley won’t sell PPV buys is a fool. He’s like an All-American Kongo – a physical specimen at the HW level.
by Derek Suboticki on Jan 19, 2009 4:31 PM EST reply actions
Lashley has the personality of a wet dish cloth, doesn’t have anywhere near the raw athleticism of Lesnar, doesn’t have anywhere close to the fame Lesnar had coming in and he hasn’t proven that he even has a future in MMA yet. The guy could turn out to be the real deal fighting but I doubt he will ever be even close to the draw Brock Lesnar is.
Wow, everyone in Pro Wrestling is roided up by man, Lashley was REALLY roided up in that 1st pic.
BTW this was on Sherdog like a week or 2 ago, you guys are getting slow on the uptake. I listen to most of the pod casts, if you want me to email one of the BE writers some show notes from the fighter interviews etc I’d be happy too. Just let me know.
I can't help but feel...
That this is Bobby Lashley once again following Brock wherever he goes. Anyone that watches pro wrestling [I myself admit it] remembers that Bobby Lashley was always the black version of Brock Lesnar in the company. When Brock up and left WWE, they pegged Bobby as the guy to take his place. He had the EXACT same wrestling style, wore the same EXACT gay black tights as him, was horrible on the microphone as him, he even had the same ring entrance as him with the exact same firework display.
I find it even more ironic that Bobby Lashley decided to start in MMA after Brock was making waves in the industry. Him wanting to fight Brock just furthers this strange irony.
It will be a while before Lashley can get into the Octagon since the Dana is not interested in signing him. He may have to string up some major wins to actually get noticed. Right now, he has a long way to go.
Wow – how is that guy gonna pass a drug screen? Yeesh.
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