UFC 93 Main Card Betting Odds... Horn Vs. Palhares is up: - Dan Henderson -135 Rich Franklin...

Belcher.

by Simco on Jan 12, 2009 4:42 PM EST reply actions 0 recs

Agreed. Great underdog bet.

And that’s probably closer than it deserves to be for Palhares-Horn

by SplitBreast on Jan 12, 2009 4:51 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs

"And that’s probably closer than it deserves to be for Palhares-Horn"

Exactly what I thought.

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by The Kittitas Kid on Jan 12, 2009 7:09 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs

Belcher is a good underdog bet for sure. Rua is almost investment quality. Where else would you get over 25% return on your investment nearly guaranteed?

by D.Capitated on Jan 12, 2009 4:56 PM EST reply actions 0 recs

Rich Franklin is a good deal

by Ubernoober on Jan 12, 2009 4:59 PM EST reply actions 0 recs

totally agree

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by monkeyfightclub! on Jan 12, 2009 7:30 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs

Why is Palhares vs. Horn highlighted? Is that supposed to be the bargain? LOL, seriously… you’re making me laugh.

Belcher is by far the best bargain at +255, and while I think Franklin is going to win, he’ll probably pull even. +115 isn’t jack all to capitalize on, especially in such a close bout. Including him in a parlay would be my way to go or a small bet to make a small amount of change. Big bet seems a bit risky to me.

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by Leland Roling on Jan 12, 2009 5:16 PM EST reply actions 0 recs

Looking at it now, I’m assuming it’s the newest line, thats why it’s highlighted, correct? I hope so.

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by Leland Roling on Jan 12, 2009 5:17 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs

I think it's highlighted because it's pretty rare to see a -455.

But I could be wrong.

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by The Kittitas Kid on Jan 12, 2009 7:08 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs

Verdum against Dos Santos...

was somewhere around -650 up until a week before the fight (the fateful video). And I think GSP was going somewhere around -800 against Serra for awhile. And if I remember Silva was -700 against Cote (correct me on that one). -455 is a good bet I think, Horn has been subbed recently by people with inferior BJJ to Palhares.

by B Money on Jan 13, 2009 11:03 AM EST up reply actions 0 recs

I rarely bet on anything over -350 unless I believe it’s a pure lock. Palhares might be worth some green, but the rate of return is fairly low. I’m a pretty big bettor, and I’d throw $100 to $200 down on Palhares in a heartbeat if he pushed into the -300’s. I’m a bit hesitant at -450.

Shogun may actually be a decent bet, but I’m once again very weary of lay-n-pray tactics by Coleman. I’ll probably lay down on Shogun though, hard…

I still think Kang punches much quicker than Belcher, but Belcher is definitely a value bet.

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by Leland Roling on Jan 13, 2009 12:41 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs

Belchers movement isn't nearly as good

as the other fighters that have recently beat Kang and I’d question if his chin is as good either. His ground game isn’t nearly as good as any of the 3 recent losses.

Gimme 1 Round!

by skwirrl on Jan 14, 2009 10:52 AM EST up reply actions 0 recs

I don't know how you put a guy with Belcher's stand-up at +255.

Even if Kang comes out shooting, he’s still got a puncher’s chance. All fights start standing.

No way I would bet on Shogun. Who knows what he’ll look like.

Hendo or Franklin at – is value, because that’s an even-money fight all the way.

I like Lytle’s unorthodox groundwork versus Davis’ improved but still lacking mat skills as well.

If this is me, I’m parlaying Lytle and Franklin.

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by The Kittitas Kid on Jan 12, 2009 7:11 PM EST reply actions 0 recs

Palhares vs. Horn...

Very interesting. This is by far the most lopsided fight on the card and, in my opinion, the most lopsided fight in a long time. I just don’t see how Horn can win this — he’ll be lucky if Rousimar doesn’t leave with one of his limbs. But still, if I bet on horn I only get +275!!! Belcher and Coleman give roughly the same payout but are much more likely to win! How freakin’ bizarre!

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by mma_dude on Jan 12, 2009 7:17 PM EST reply actions 0 recs

I really don't see

Belcher at +255 as a good bet. People have flushed Kang down the toilet because he lost to Mousasi by submission. Ok, in hindsight that ain’t very bad. Mousasi regained guard from being held in side control against friggin Jacare. He obviously is alot slicker on the ground than anybody gave him credit for prior to that tournament. I think alot of people that think Kang sucks all of a sudden either have zero idea of what they’re talking about or they just haven’t really stopped to look at the situation. All of Kang’s recent losses came to top shelf competition. Misaki split decision, Akiyama KO and Mousasi sub.

In 42 fights with more of them coming against top quality opposition than anybody else at 185, Kang has been KO’d/TKO’d exactly twice. If Belcher were a jiujitsu whiz I might say +255 would be wise because Kang despite being a black belt in JJ is suspect on the ground but Kang was outstriking Mousasi before he followed him to the ground and got choked out. Belcher has power but Kang has good boxing and a pretty good chin. It took Akiyama drilling him on the button to put him to sleep. Belcher may be able to do that, but I’d ask myself if I consider him the level of competitor that Akiyama or Mousasi is on the feet with a ground game dangerous enough to discourage Kang from taking him down before thinking its a good bet at +255.

Gimme 1 Round!

by skwirrl on Jan 12, 2009 9:21 PM EST reply actions 0 recs

basically

I think its a good style matchup for Kang who is underrated by the internet masses anyways. Unfortunately Vegas hasn’t bought into that so I can’t really make any money that way.

Gimme 1 Round!

by skwirrl on Jan 12, 2009 9:23 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs

It’s a good bet because of the Akiyama KO. Belcher is a vastly better striker than Akiyama.

The Mousasi fight has little to do with it, other than to show that Kang makes really poor decisions in his fights sometimes. (So does Belcher though)

by George Lucas on Jan 12, 2009 11:55 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs

Kang also gets dropped a lot. It’s not too much of a stretch to imagine Belcher dropping him in this fight.

by ilostmydog on Jan 15, 2009 1:51 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs

n 42 fights with more of them coming against top quality opposition than anybody else at 185, Kang has been KO’d/TKO’d exactly twice.

Pretty excessive claim there. Kang has fought:

- Gegard Mousasi
- Yoshihiro Akiyama
- Kazuo Misaki
- Akihiro Gono

That’s literally it for top quality competition he’s fought at MW. Pretty sure many people have fought more top quality opposition than him.

And to pre-emptively retort:

- Amar Suloev – mid-level MW at best.
- Ninja – 5-4 at MW, has never beaten anyone of any real consequence there. One of his wins at MW is against a guy who fixed half his fights and another came from a freak cut. KO’d three times in 9 fights at MW. Not a top quality fighter.
- Andrei Semenov – best win = Ricardo Almeida in Ricardo’s 4th fight. Has never beaten top quality guys, and for years has cared more about acting than fighting.
- Mayhem – not exactly top quality opposition when he fought Kang (not to mention now).
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by ilostmydog on Jan 15, 2009 1:50 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs