Josh Neer Arrested
--UFC fighter Josh Neer was arrested at 12:40 a.m. last night in Des Moines after a car chase after Neer's car struck a police car. Police used stop sticks to flatten the tires of Neer's car and he was charged with a DUI and eluding police. Neer is scheduled to face Mac Danzig on the 2/7 UFC show in Tampa.
I'm a bit surprised we're not seeing this reported in more places as it's obviously a bit of a big deal in regards to his ability to fight Danzig or not in February. A normal DUI wouldn't lead to potential travel restrictions, but the eluding police as well as actually striking a police car? I guess we'll see what comes out of it but I've seen travel restrictions for less. Of course you can sometimes get work travel exceptions, but it's a bit of a heavy situation nonetheless.
Update:
Sherdog has more on the story:
Neer, 25, faces charges of Operating a Vehicle while Intoxicated, hit-and-run, eluding police and other traffic violations, according to Sgt. Jeff Phillips with the Des Moines Police Department. This was Neer’s second OWI offense. Eluding police is a felony charge.
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Neer allegedly struck two vehicles –- the second of which was a police car -- and then led authorities on a 15-minute chase that reached speeds in excess of 100 miles per hour.
“He hit a car with a driver in it that was behind a police car at a stop light,” said Sgt. David Coy....
Mickey Dubberly, Neer’s manager with KO Dynasty, said his client painted a different picture.
According to Dubberly, Neer said he struck a parked car, stopped to check it for damage, and continued on his way when he saw none. Dubberly said Neer panicked when an officer began to pursue his car.
After attempting a PIT maneuver, police reportedly deployed spike strips in an attempt to bring the pursuit to an end. Neer was arrested after blowing a tire.
Dubberly contends the arresting officers used unnecessary force during Neer’s apprehension. Dubberly said the athlete sustained bruises to his stomach, thighs, and head after officers kicked him repeatedly.
Kind of the last thing I wanted to see was unnecessary force charges. 100 MPH chases usually show an individual willing to engage in incredibly dangerous behavior. I'm thinking that Neer may not have been willing to go easily and it resulted in a bit of a violent arrest of course he is claiming that he was kicked repeatedly so I guess we'll see where this goes now.
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Indeed. Jackson’s was arguably worse.
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You think Rampage just had a breakdown? He didn’t run from cops and smash into another vehicle and endangered other drivers that day?
The 2 situations are apples and oranges but they are both pretty severe in the end.
by lbk on Jan 1, 2009 6:32 PM EST up reply actions
regardless of what Rampage did similarly or differently, Neer should have learned something from that whole fiasco.
Eliot Marshall: Bader won. Like I said in the episode, I'm not going to make any excuses. It's my job to be able to deal with when somebody's doing that. It's not his job to change up his tactics.
http://eliotmarshall.com/
This was also neer’s second offense!
Eliot Marshall: Bader won. Like I said in the episode, I'm not going to make any excuses. It's my job to be able to deal with when somebody's doing that. It's not his job to change up his tactics.
http://eliotmarshall.com/
Yea that makes a huge difference here, does anyone think Dana would of given Rampage a second chance if he had a history of this kind of action? Of course having a mental breakdown and needing a psychiatric evaluation is very different than being a drunk driver too; drunk driving is a willful and knowledgeable breaking of the law not temporary insanity.
Maybe Neer had a mental breakdown and didn't know what he was doing
when he was drinking
Gimme 1 Round!
Sucks for Neer but...
thank god it was not rampage.
I said this in mythbuster's post...
I had a beautiful aunt who was killed by a drunk driver several years back. It’s no joke and the fact that at times the pursuit was over 100MPH means that he (and a drunken state is no excuse) had no regard for the lives of anyone else in that moment.
It basically amounts to attempted manslaughter in my eyes. Driving drunk is bad enough…but a drunken high speed chase? Go fuck yourself Neer.
I just didn’t want to place it in the article and editorialize a bit too much on an actual “news story”
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by Brent Brookhouse on Jan 1, 2009 8:30 PM EST reply actions
I sympathize Brent..
I’ve also lost family members to drunk drivers…. I have no sympathy at all for Neer and I hope he gets all the law can throw at him and I’ll boycott any UFC event that Josh Neer fights on.
This is a 2nd offense for this punk, this is what makes Neer different from Rampage. It doesn’t justify what happened w/ Rampage at all… I know this, but this current situation hits home for me.
I share the words of Brent and say Go fuck yourself Neer… but I’m going to throw in that I hope Dana White cuts your ass and that you are never given the opportunity to compete again.
by Gunslinger20 on Jan 1, 2009 11:55 PM EST up reply actions
make up all the bullshit you want but the only difference is rampage is a top level fighter and neer is yesterdays garbage.
No the difference is that Josh Need got drunk and got into a car and got caught (for the second time), he’s already had his chance to set things straight and learn his lesson but he willfully chose to do it again. He went twenty miles in a chase that reached 100mph (which is real scary considering that he was drunk), I might give the guy a break for DUI if it wasn’t for the fact that this was his second offense but that is the really big difference here. He chose to get drunk and get into a car and he chose to run away at high speed knowing it was dangerous, he is also a second time offender. Rampage lost his freaken mind and was put into a mental hospital for observation, if he ever does it a second time I’m sure people won’t just give him a break again (including Dana White).
Brent, I share your feelings towards drunk driving.
But your last line is disturbing. Claims of police brutality are often dismissed by blaming the victim of “resisting arrest”. I have witnessed people fall victim to police violence, and in every case, they were arrested and charged with “resisting arrest”.
You come dangerously close to justifying police brutality in cases where the suspect engaged in a high-speed chase. Evading arrest doesn’t justify physical abuse at the hands of police, and nor does any other crime for that matter, no matter how reckless it makes the suspect out to be.
Force is justified only when officers’ lives are in danger.
You're right...
I didn’t make that clear enough. I’m trying to say the bruising may be from his struggling against the cops but if they were kicking him that is over the line so we have to see what happens and what we find out to be true.
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by Brent Brookhouse on Jan 1, 2009 8:52 PM EST up reply actions
Where's the proof that is legit?
I’d love to see the legal proof that statement is legit…. especially considering many dr’s have gone on record in interviews that statement you made is completely false.
Even that woman’s own doctor said the accident didn’t have anything to do with the miscarriage, that was disproved shortly after it was reported.
If you’re implying that I was referring to Rampage with my comments then you’re wrong. I would never accuse the man without sufficient evidence.
Dude...
come on. You talk about the rampage thing…then bring up the hitting a car with a pregnant lady/miscarriage thing which was obviously a big part of the Rampage story…and then claim that the statement wasn’t about Rampage? I’m finding that a bit hard to swallow.
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by Brent Brookhouse on Jan 2, 2009 10:08 AM EST up reply actions
What scares me about charges like this is that my car gets to 100 really easily. If I’m not paying attention I tend to go around 80. This being the case, I could end up in a high speed chase without really noticing that the cop was even following me until he caught up….
Don't believe a word I say, I don't train BJJ. -- TangleBones
Yeah...
but his own manager said “Neer panicked when an officer started to pursue his car” that’s no “oops I’m going too fast…” nor is the fact that they tried to PIT him (hit his car in an exact spot with the cop car and spin him out) and he continued to try to elude them until they broke out the spike strips
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by Brent Brookhouse on Jan 2, 2009 10:01 AM EST up reply actions
I’ve had very fast cars before in my life and I’ve never not know I was going 20 or 30 miles over the interstate speed limit and I would never get anywhere close to that on a road that had stoplights/stop signs. 80 on the highway is one thing but no one drives around a city at high speed by accident and he started the incident by hitting two cars, one of which was a police car, that makes it really hard to write off the chase as “not paying attention”.
What scares me is that phrases like, “led authorities on a 15-minute chase,” and “speeds in excess of 100 miles per hour,” make you sound guilty automatically.
I read in a review a while back that the Bentley Continental GT is so fast and smooth that you can get to 150 without really noticing. Then a few weeks later I read that Chris tucker was pulled over in his Bentley Continental GT after a 15 minute chase at speeds over 100mph on his way to church and that he didn’t notice the cops behind him or how fast he was going. And if I hadn’t read that first review, I would have thought he was full of shit.
Don't believe a word I say, I don't train BJJ. -- TangleBones
Like I said above though...
they rammed his car in an attempt to get him to stop…but he continued to elude them until they broke out the spike strips. It’s pretty hard to say you didn’t mean to run at that point.
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by Brent Brookhouse on Jan 2, 2009 11:18 AM EST up reply actions
[Shoot – didn’t reply again – this last-post thing always screws me up.]
Yeah, I get your point, but I just hate the way that circumstances can remove the presumption of innocence from your average news-reader.
Don't believe a word I say, I don't train BJJ. -- TangleBones
Yeah...
I buy the argument that it is possible to go faster than you mean to (especially when drunk…) but yeah. I just don’t think it applies when you very clearly take other measures to elude.
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by Brent Brookhouse on Jan 2, 2009 11:44 AM EST up reply actions
Hit and Run
So being the person driving the car hit by Josh Neer, I can guarantee you I was not parked nor did he get out of his car and check for damage. He did not even bother to get out of his car to see if I was alright. He hit my car, panicked, ran a red light and drove away. Nice attempt to cover your ass on the hit and run aspect of it. Not that drunk driving and eluding the police aren’t enough anyway.

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