The Week in Quotes, August 30th - September 5th
by Mike Fagan on Sep 6, 2008 2:16 PM EDT
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THE NATURAL II: ELECTRIC BOOGALOO
"It will be Randy 'the Natural' Couture, the Heavyweight champion, against Brock Lesnar." - UFC President Dana White, announcing the return of prodigal son Randy Couture (UFC Teleconference)
"Obviously, he's made it very clear how bad he wants to fight Fedor." - White, bringing new information to light
"We're going to do everything in our power to make a Fedor fight happen." - White, noticeably more congenial when he's in a good mood
"It's for the title!" - White, when asked if the fight was three or five rounds
"All I give a shit about is he's back and he's fighting." - White, echoing thoughts of MMA fans around the globe
UFC 91: SHOW ME THE MONEY
"This things going to do over a million buys." - White, discussing the potential buyrate
"We actually do research on these things, if you can believe it or not." - White
"We're talking about this countdown show being 2 or 3 parts for Brock and Randy." - White, hinting at the continuing trend of UFC Countdowns mimicing their HBO counterparts
"De La Hoya's such a monster." - White, asked how the fight will compare to De La Hoya/Pacquiao
FUCKING FEDOR, NOT IN THAT WAY
"Fighting Fedor? I'm hearing all this talk about Fedor Emelianenko. Who gives a shit about Fedor?" - UFC Heavyweight TItle contender Brock Lesnar, displaying his frustrations at the media's constant questions about a potential Emelianenko/Couture fight
"Aw shit, here we go, Fedor!" - Lesnar, when it just wouldn't stop
265 LB. EXPLOSIVE WRESTLER WITH A ROCKET DOUBLE LEG
"I'm not ready yet, no, but I will be in about 10 weeks." - Couture, when asked if he's prepared to fight Lesnar
"On the ground or standing, he poses some interesting problems." - Couture
"How can you overlook a guy that size?" - Couture, answering an example of piss poor journalism entering MMA
HEATH HERRING IS A LIAR? COLOR ME SHOCKED
"There was a lot of bad blood between Brock and Heath." - White, contradicting what Herring has been contradicting himself with
"Heath was pissed off he had to fight Brock Lesnar." - White
QUINTON JACKSON, POLICE REFORM ADVOCATE
"My occupation did affect how the police treated me." - Former UFC Light Heavyweight Champion Quinton Jackson (CBS News)
"In my mind, I thought I was A god." - Jackson, making me question if it really was just a lack of sleep and energy drinks
"'If he was a god, why did Forrest kick your butt?'" - Jackson, commentating on CA police quick wit
***Pretty shallow week for quotes even with a fight coming up this weekend.***
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Some weeks will be better than others. Can’t wait for Karo to discuss his street cred again..that should have some hilarious taglines attached.
I can’t quite figure Dana out. He acts exactly like a 22 year old frat boy, but his business acumen puts him closer to Steve Ballmer than a second year business school punk. The dude’s got some serious clarity on the Randy issue though, echoing public sentiment with the “All I give a shit about is that he’s back and he’s fighting in November!” stuff.
There is no such thing as innocence, only degrees of guilt.
The real question is....
Will Randys face look better or worse than this after his fight with Brock? I say much worse.
I agree with the sentiment, but might disagree with the statement.
I think Brock’s got such ridiculous power that if he is able to express it in this fight, Randy will wake up to bright lights after only one or two punches. Randy’s whole gameplan is going to be about avoidance, just like Chuck’s gameplan has been for the last four years. You can’t take Brock head-on, you’ve got to minimize his strengths, and one of those is his massive right hand. Frank Mir and Heath Herring have both hit the mat at the first serious impact from Brock’s meathammer.
I just don’t think Brock is the kinda guy who can smash an opponent’s face with twenty good shots during a fight. I just doubt anyone can survive enough impacts to create that number of landmarks.
There is no such thing as innocence, only degrees of guilt.
How about this quote:
“And finally, I have to put a brother in there, so I’m going with Quintin Jackson. That’s my guy; that’s my fourth.”
Franklin McNeil carves out who he would have on the MMA Mount Rushmore.
by Eugene Schelfaut on Sep 6, 2008 2:35 PM EDT reply actions
I despise that aspect of black 'journalism' in today's media.
Partly for the double-standard, but mostly because it’s a ridiculous criteria to use when judging the greatest performer in a given arena of competition. A case can be made for Rampage to be there legitimately, I don’t think it’s a winning case personally, but I think there’s a real case that can be made. But because he’s black? That just sucks.
There is no such thing as innocence, only degrees of guilt.
Florian went on to say he would add Chuck Liddell because he was the face of the sport.
McNeil was a little confused and said something like “But, Rampage beat Chuck. He can’t be on there.”
McNeil didn’t seem to realize this would bump Royce Gracie from his Mt. as Hughes, another of his four, had a victory over him.
by Eugene Schelfaut on Sep 6, 2008 2:51 PM EDT up reply actions
So then...
you have to take Rampage off because Silva beat him twice…and then take Silva off because he lost to Hunt…who lost to….
Jackson has never been the clear cut #1 guy in the company he worked for for any substantial period of time. He was in the UFC for a period of a year …the majority of which he was sidelined with an injury and TUF (he had a single win after the title win). Liddell was THE guy in the UFC for roughly three years.
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by Brent Brookhouse on Sep 6, 2008 3:01 PM EDT up reply actions
The argument *for* Rampage is an interesting one,
but it doesn’t have too much to do with his overall prowess. He’s symbolic of the most distinct aspect of MMA, as it compares to other combat sports: the importance of stylistic matchups. Some guys are simply kryptonite to others, and this make the belt system problematic. Rampage slaughters Chuck when they fight, so much so that if we hadn’t watched Chuck literally prove himself to be one of the greatest MMA champions of all time over the last few years, we’d wonder if he ever deserved a title shot in the first place. But then Forrest comes in and makes Rampage look very much like a mortal man.
At least, that’s the argument I would use if I were lobbying for Rampage. Certainly not the shade of his skin.
There is no such thing as innocence, only degrees of guilt.
Agreed...
And beyond the double-standard issues…there is no way he makes my list
1. Royce Gracie – Without him the sport likely doesn’t evolve or continue forward in America…or we’re at least several years behind in the evolution of the sport.
2. Fedor – Despite my problems with him he has been undeniably the most dominant man in the sport for a more prolonged period of time than anyone else in the modern era.
3. Randy Couture – Titles, longevity, fame…
Then you’d have to think either Sakuraba (whose late career fade taints his legacy a bit…but don’t take that as a knock on him, just that his resume suffers due to fighting well past when he should have quit), Liddell (for dominance and public notoriety), Matt Hughes (dude was THE WELTERWEIGHT for forever), Dana White (did they have to be fighters? because White has done more for the sport than almost anyone else)…um…and probably a few others I’m overlooking.
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by Brent Brookhouse on Sep 6, 2008 2:52 PM EDT up reply actions
Awesome, you named all of the guys I would have in contention!
I went through that list, and even toyed with the idea of Ken Shamrock at one point, simply because he pioneered the concept of ‘mixing’ the martial arts. He wasn’t very good at it, ultimately, but he was the first guy to really attempt it.
That’s how my 1-2-3 looks, too. It’s tempting to lock Chuck in there, but he’s just not as influential of a figure as Randy has been. Bigger, more public maybe, but not as influential to the sport.
There is no such thing as innocence, only degrees of guilt.
I would put Chuck on there over Randy, and I’m far from a Chuck fan.
Royce-must have
Fedor-especially if he beats barnett and Randy
Chuck-the face of teh UFC and a dominant champ
Not on:
Randy-great but overrated
Hughes-just wasn;t as devastating as chuck
Maybe—
GSP
BJ
check back in a few years.
"The bigger the cushion, the sweeter the pushin'"
I was on the call - I gotta better one
’I’m fighing because I love to fight. I don’t know what Fedor wants. If he wants to be considered the best heavyweight in the world, he has to come and fight me’ – Randy Couture.
Like Dana said, the shit’s chess, it ain’t checkers.
Maybe:
“Our in-flight movie today will be The Scorpion King II.”
The lifestyles of the rich and famous.
by Eugene Schelfaut on Sep 6, 2008 2:55 PM EDT reply actions
Want to reiterate that if people catch interesting quotes, you should send them to me at mikeypatriot@gmail.com. Definitely would appreciate all the help in gathering material.
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