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ESPN and PTI Should Be Ashamed of Their Kimbo Slice Interview

Honestly, words fail me. This is beyond the pale.

UPDATE: I can barely speak about this outrageous interview, but others do the job well:

Watch this video.  Tony vacillates between ignorant and insulting.  He is an older man, but that does not excuse complete ignorance to a sport that is at the very LEAST on the radar.  It maybe out of his demo, but he could still read an article.  Watch a video or two on Slice.  There is no excuse.  I have SHIT on Dan Lebatard in the past.  I think he is manic and over eager at times.  Even he treats their guest with respect and asks good questions.  He seems genuinely excited to have Kimbo on the show.

Tony, in this interview, embodies everything that ESPN is in regards to MMA.  Ignorant and old fashioned.  Hard core mixed martial arts fans may not like Kimbo as an ambassador to the sport, but thats what he is.  What fans have to realize is that it’s not Kevin Ferguson they have to hate.  It’s the relics that are doing the interviewing and relying on complete ignorance and ancient sterotypes to conduct themselves when they do.

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A few things...

1. Kornheiser is the worst in sports media

2. ESPN sucks and their heyday was in the 90’s They are appallingly bad now. I never watch them anymore and when I do I don’t recognize the channel I used to watch.

3. Kimbo is very uncomfortable on the camera.

by banter on Sep 25, 2008 10:07 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

Ferguson gives a lousy interview.

by Richard Wade on Sep 25, 2008 10:14 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

I agree

He’s not very good with interviews, but in this case i think it’s a little unfair. The questions he was being asked for the most part were shit. Cornheiser needs to be off T.V. forever! It would have been worse if Wilbon was on the show. He pretty much has the same opinion about MMA that cornheiser does. I did get a good laugh though when Kimbo said James thompson had a good chin.

by asmiley420 on Sep 25, 2008 10:36 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

He’s not much worse than most athletes. We’ve been spoiled by the fact that so many top MMA pros are college grads and relatively polished.

Don't believe a word I say, I don't train BJJ. -- TangleBones

by jemaleddin on Sep 26, 2008 9:23 AM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

He did seem off somehow tho. Dunno if he was tired or something, but he was kind of rambly. He spent about 4 of the good 5 minutes talking about how he wasn’t a celebrity.

by mythbuster on Sep 26, 2008 9:38 AM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Agreed – he can be much more personable than that – maybe he knew what those idiots had said about him in the past and wasn’t very enthused.

Don't believe a word I say, I don't train BJJ. -- TangleBones

by jemaleddin on Sep 26, 2008 12:00 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Kimbo is a college grad if I’m not mistaken.

by midwestbred on Sep 26, 2008 10:38 AM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

You are mistaken.

by Luke Thomas on Sep 26, 2008 10:39 AM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

He went to college

but didn’t graduate. He went on a football scholarship, and didn’t play. He also wasn’t a boxer (which I had thought). He’s just a nice guy from the street who happens to be a good fighter.

by mythbuster on Sep 26, 2008 10:59 AM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

As PTI goes, I didn’t think that was much worse than any of their other interviews.

by Richard Wade on Sep 25, 2008 10:17 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

In defense of ESPN...

Other than actual sporting events themselves ESPN is the only thing on my TV. I must admit this was not the smoothest interview. Tony Kornheiser in very opinionated, and has an outlet to voice that opinion. PTI is in fact an editorial type program. If you compare this interview with the 2 Lesnar/Couture pieces previously done on ESPN, i think you would find that the interviewers were both competent and informed. ESPN could easily sweep MMA under the rug and pretend it doesn’t exist (think WWE). They don’t, for the most part they give decent coverage and even give us a fantastic 40 minute MMA show every week.

by nitro on Sep 25, 2008 10:36 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

They could sweep it under the rug, sure. But don’t say it’s like what they do to WWE, as MMA is a legitimate sport and WWE is legitimate entertainment. (for some ____)

by LiuLang on Sep 26, 2008 7:59 AM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Kimbo

Ferg you need to get your facts correct. Thompson fought in Pride not Pancreas. Don Frye, not Dan lost to Thompson in Pride. Ferg You are a FUCKin JOKE bro.

by KneesnBows on Sep 25, 2008 10:46 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

I wanna be the King of Pancreas.

by Chris Nelson on Sep 25, 2008 11:11 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

I’ve always been a fan of Gall Bladder Fighting Championships

by Tonley on Sep 25, 2008 11:52 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Personally prefer the Emperor of Appendix Tournament.

There is no such thing as innocence, only degrees of guilt.

by misterjonez on Sep 26, 2008 1:52 AM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

I’ve long been the Prince of the Islets of Langerhans.

Don't believe a word I say, I don't train BJJ. -- TangleBones

by jemaleddin on Sep 26, 2008 9:19 AM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

that means you would have to fight in the Glucagon.

"Well if it's gonna be that kinda party, I'm gonna stick my dick in the mashed potatoes."

by monkeyfightclub! on Sep 26, 2008 9:37 AM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Against Sugar “Ray-shad” Evans?

Don't believe a word I say, I don't train BJJ. -- TangleBones

by jemaleddin on Sep 26, 2008 12:01 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

I’m not a fan of Kornheiser. He’s on Monday Night Football, and at times I’d swear that he knows nothing about football. I’m not at all surprised by his inability to do a decent interview in this instance. I do think ESPN still has some good sports journalists that could do a great job covering MMA if ESPN was so inclined.

by Cannon Jacques on Sep 25, 2008 10:59 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

I try to listen to the PTI and ATH podcasts daily just to hear what the monkeys are yelling about, and I’m constantly astounded how little Kornheiser and Wilbon know about many of the topics that their show touches on. (Don’t get me started on Woody Paige… you know ATH producers feed the panelists facts through their earpieces?) But I think we can all agree the most offensive thing about Mr. Tony is that combover. Give it up bro.

Tony Reali, on the other hand, is beyond reproach.

by Chris Nelson on Sep 25, 2008 11:17 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Kornheiser and Wilbon are stick and ball guys and they can provide decent commentary for the sports they are accustomed to. As it goes for discussing fringe sports or NASCAR, they are not typically well versed but are in a position where they often cannot be seen as legitimate commentators without at least touching on some of it.

by D.Capitated on Sep 26, 2008 12:16 AM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

I watch ATH and PTI every day.

That said, EVERY time that there is a MMA topic on PTI, I put the tv on MUTE.
Kornheiser and Wilbon have always said they are hardcore BOXING fans and they see MMA as human cockfighting.

ESPN should know better.

by IHateMMA on Sep 25, 2008 11:23 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

Kornheiser is a hardcore boxing fan? He doesn’t watch it and thinks its a joke. Wilbon basically talks about how the sport is dead. Massive lol here.

by D.Capitated on Sep 26, 2008 12:08 AM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Do you never hear them reminiscence?

by IHateMMA on Sep 26, 2008 12:37 AM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

When they think kindly of boxing (and Wilbon is really the only one who cares) its about stuff like Ali/Frazier. Everyone in that generation has memories of Ali vs. Frazier. Its one of the biggest sporting events in history. Does that make them hardcore boxing fans? About as much as their talk about Big Brown in derby season makes them horse racing afficionados.

by D.Capitated on Sep 26, 2008 1:11 AM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

The idea that ESPN or anyone on it must, in some sense, heed to MMA is hilarious. What, they’re gonna lose the 18-49 demographic for Sportscenter without it? In any case, the network has a weekly news magazine show that, depending on what the rumors are at the moment, seems as if it may make actual broadcast. That comes in addition to their working with Sherdog to provide quality content on the sport. However, they by no means “need” the sport.

by D.Capitated on Sep 26, 2008 12:11 AM EDT reply actions   0 recs

Its as if their joking when they say they dont know anything about the sport. Its just very hard to fathom. Like one time they were saying something about groundgame and the PTI guys were like “huh?” Its just really strange to me.

by xFenixKnightx on Sep 26, 2008 12:30 AM EDT reply actions   0 recs

is this the face we want for mma on espn? Brock does a better job at interviews and he has a much bigger upside he is fighting for the title in the biggest org in the sport why isnt he on PTI doing a interview or not Randy Couture? why is it when espn talks about mma kimbo slice name is not too far behind.(ps i know about the stuff randy and brock did on espn for 91 but still they always hype kimbo fights and i think its bullshit

"If I wanted to spend a half hour between two hairy legs I'd go to your mother's house." -Don Frye

by Pitbull on Sep 26, 2008 1:27 AM EDT reply actions   0 recs

A) The UFC can’t line it up.

B) If they could, he’d be crucified for having been a pro wrestler.

by D.Capitated on Sep 26, 2008 10:23 AM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

I used to have ESPN on damn near 24/7, now I pretty much only watch specifically if there’s a game I want to see. Unwatachable dreck the rest of the time.

by andherewego on Sep 26, 2008 3:27 AM EDT reply actions   0 recs

I heard the interview was terrible from Dan LeBatard himself. Moments after he wrapped up taping of PTI he went back to his radio show in Miami(on 790am) and he talked about how terrible of an interview it was. What was more interesting is that LeBatard told his listeners how Kornheiser was acting off air. Dan was saying that Tony was complaining to his producers and director about having to interview Kimbo. The guy didnt want anything to do with Kimbo and he wanted to make sure everyone in the studio knew about it. You could say he was acting like a diva, in that he felt too good to be doing an interview with Kimbo. I guess it has do with the fact he’s a boxing purist and he’s old. LeBatard then got into a discussion about how Tony is one person on air, and completely different off air.

I’m just glad no one is ripping LeBatard. He’s a big MMA fan and he’s a big fan of Kimbo(the person, not the fighter). I’ve talked to him a few times about MMA and he’s pretty knowledgeable about it. He used to be a casual fan and he used to think Kimbo was the baddest man on the planet but he got more into MMA and realized that wasn’t true, but he still supports Kimbo because he’s a local guy.

by Discman2 on Sep 26, 2008 3:34 AM EDT reply actions   1 recs

Thanks for the info man.

by asa on Sep 26, 2008 12:06 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Double thanks. LeBatard was probably the only reason Kimbo was on PTI in the first place. I remember hearing him do an interview on his radio show before the first CBS show, and like you said he wasn’t super knowledgeable but was at least respectful.

by Chris Nelson on Sep 26, 2008 12:11 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Hmmmm..

I really didn’t think the interview was all that bad. Did anyone really expect these guys to be MMA experts? They had to fill 5 minutes of time and keep the average viewer (not an MMA fan) interested in a guy who struggled to get to 3-0 in a second rate league.

by JCS_FM on Sep 26, 2008 8:29 AM EDT reply actions   0 recs

It’s just strange that he’d be on PTI at all, given all they’ve done is mock MMA and Kimbo in particular in the past.

by Chris Nelson on Sep 26, 2008 9:18 AM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

I guess..

Its the natural evolution of a sport that has the potential to break into the mainstream, but isn’t quite there yet. Have to start somewhere, no?

by JCS_FM on Sep 26, 2008 10:49 AM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

I don’t think the interview was that bad, it was less a sports interview and more a “lets talk to this character” interview. I find it funny when Slice has to try and hype up his previous opponents, in that regard I feel sorry for him but it’s a position his team put him in and he should have probably handled it differently (“I didn’t pick who I fight, they put them in front of me and it’s my job to take them out”)
It was more of a casual interview, they tried to make it more legit by asking him a few tough questions but by the end it might as well have been EliteXC asking him the questions.

by pr0cs on Sep 26, 2008 9:24 AM EDT reply actions   0 recs

I dvr’d this interview so I have not had a chance to see it, but the other times I have seen “Fergie” he seems to come off as genuine at least. I think that Bas has had a positive affect in his life and at least he is not street fighting for money any longer. Even if he is never able to compete at the top levels of MMA I give him props as it seems he is taking his training seriously because I do not believe that Bas would waste his time on a guy that was not serious. Maybe if he got away from that porn company crew he has been associated with it would give him some credibility.

by dnevil001 on Sep 26, 2008 9:27 AM EDT reply actions   0 recs

Wait Kornheiser is a douche?

Has been for years. He drove a legend out of the broadcasting booth in Theisman becasue he didn’t like him. Can’t stand Kornheiser.

by lbk on Sep 26, 2008 9:35 AM EDT reply actions   0 recs

bets on this dude being from DC

joey sunshine was a moron… if he is such a legend then why has no other broadcasting company scooped him up?? Regardless of whether or not tony came in the booth Joe’s days were numbered.

by dt3 on Sep 26, 2008 1:29 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Theisman was terrible. At least we have Jaworski now.

by Richard Wade on Sep 30, 2008 2:41 AM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Umm..

I just watched the interview expecting something awful.. That was a PTI interview. What’s the big deal?

by Blackout612 on Sep 26, 2008 11:02 AM EDT reply actions   0 recs

Yeah – the word ashamed is a bit strong.

Don't believe a word I say, I don't train BJJ. -- TangleBones

by jemaleddin on Sep 26, 2008 12:02 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

They could stand to be ashamed for putting PTI on the air at all.

by Richard Wade on Sep 30, 2008 2:42 AM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Frank Mir Was Right, Kimbo Is Bad For The Sport

Mir’s interview with 5 Oz’s where he says Kimbo is bad for the sport, well now he’s doubly right his fighting skill and now his public speaking have set the sport back into the dark ages and has caused some serious doubt about the University of Miami. I know he’s a football player but damn! They give this guy a scholarship?

by Graffight on Sep 26, 2008 11:11 AM EDT reply actions   0 recs

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